>>21994332
you know how everybody has that one drink that just brings their monster out?
whiskey is the key to the bottomless pit.
i don't drink it any longer.

>>21994332
Lick and old Irishmans taint

probably something blended like Teachers or just Highland peated single malt

>>21994332
laphroiag

>>21994337
i dont think thats really true. i think its a phase of drinking, like not understanding what youre drinking and not drinking it well, and then of having some underlying restlessness in your unconscious.

>>21994337
Drinking makes me horny and sleepy. I'll want to fap but if I try I'll fall asleep. If I get drunk enough I'll just wake up in my bed later without remembering going to sleep.

If Jesus turned water into whiskey instead of wine that would have been cooler.

>>21994332
>>21994346
Yeah I’ll second the Laph10 - affordable, widely available, and delicious

>>21994393
whiskey is the only thing that gets me blackout.
2 shots and i'm the worst person you've ever met.
vodka, all night.
rum, all night.
gin, all night.
tequila, all night.
mezcal, all night.
whiskey, 2 shots and i'm blackout at 7pm and yelling at people.
only one that does it to me.

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>>21994332
Trader Joe's sells a $20 bottle that's inexpensive and approachable. It's got enough peat to burn, but not so much that you felt like you licked an ashtray.

>>21995151
i don't know what to tell you buddy but it's all in your head. ethanol affects your body in the exact same way regardless of the type of alcohol you drink. in other words it's the placebo effect (i'm not trying to insult you or anything, the placebo effect is very real and can affect just about anyone in plenty of different ways).

>>21995151
>>21995259
could be cheap shit with high phenol content or other volatiles

>>21995256
i gave the trader joes whiskey and scotch a shot, because people always say they work with people and make decent products and cuz the price. I thought they were terrible. would not try again

Wt101 8 year is kind of disappointing. It’s good but it’s not worth paying the same as a handle of regular 101 for it. Will they release a 12 year I feel like that would be a more worthwhile buy.

>>21995151
are you eating? anorexic? were they really "shots" or did you down two glasses of whiskey stupidly fast?

>>21995792
>WT101 12 yr
I only expect it to never have a domestic release and it being $100 if it did.

>>21995792
Yes the whiskey industry is destroying itself from the inside at the hands of greedy consultants.
I don’t see how $40 for the same shit we were getting for $20 seems like a good idea to the general whiskey community

I am done with buying whiskey for a while until these fat cunts learn their lesson and bring integrity back to the industry

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This is the best peated whisky. PERIOD.
>bu-
cope.

^this (((white dude))) voted for Kamala

>>21994337
>you know how everybody has that one drink that just brings their monster out?
That's bullshit. I'd say beer is more sedating than spirits but with spirits there's no difference.

>>21996562
most beer drinkers have to drink it so much that they get water logged and feel sluggish. higher alcohol content will hit you with the depressive symptoms sooner if you're drinking an equal volume to beer.

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>Lagavulin

>tranime

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Underrated stuff

>>21996971
is that you LiquorHound?

>>21996971
Lose some weight Fatty mcBitch tits

>>21996556
if you didnt vote for kamala your an absolute cunt and only deserve 5$ shit canadian whiskey for the rest of your life

>>>>>>>there are good politicians
>>>>>voting is serious business

>>21997164
no whisky for you, cunt

>>21994332
>taylor
>heavens door
>weller
>buffalo trace
>heaven hill
>calumet farm
What should i drink fellas?

>>21996970
>look mom I did the meme

>>21997197
You are a grown ass man who self inserts as chinese cartoons of teenage girls

>>21997204
You share a site with that grown ass man
>also grown ass man
Nice ebonics goyem.

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Dewar's White Label > camel piss > Lagavulin

>>21997237
>>21997255
trans coded posts

>>21997169
take ur swing

>>21997255
i once thought dewars was ok.
i no longer do.
in fact i think its some weird juniper swill.
never again.

>>21997287
lol black out bro had two shots again

Anons, what's it like shopping at local liquor stores vs a Total Wines? I've only shopped at Total Wines, grocery stores, and once a BevMo. Never even bought a beer or whatever at a gas station. Just thinking about it while I wait for my renewed license to arrive in the mail.

BevMo had kind of shit pricing and mid selections. TotalWines had outstanding selections and great customer service with what seemed like decent pricing. Also some (local) clearance options when I'd go. I could get some nice picks and significantly cut prices that'd stop being stocked at my local store from then on. Though, neither are really available now; mostly just shady-looking corner stores I guess. I wouldn't expect to find a decent bourbon, rye, or weeb drink in any of them without it being overpriced slop water.

>>21998810
>Anons, what's it like shopping at local liquor stores
It fucking sucks, they have limited inventory, and everything is overpriced.

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>>21995715
Different anon. I haven't had their 'nicer' shit, but I had their brand name, cheapshit blended scotch. I think it's a 1L bottle. According to my journal notes, it was sweet and clean in aroma, just subtle nuttiness and spice. With that said, I didn't explicitly say this, but it isn't something I'd want neat. Nothing special; not much body. Better as a cheap blending whisky for sure. My perspective wasn't as a fine whisky sommelier, just casual notes of what my nose would detect. I remember the flavor itself being kind of boring, even though the aroma was fine.
>Pic rel.

>>21998810
Generally speaking they’re more expensive but with stuff like whiskey that can sit on the shelf for years oftentimes the mom and pop shops will keep the same price tag from 5 years ago which can turn out to be a huge bargain today

>>21998810
The one local store around here that has good selection is CRAZY overpriced. Like, $80 Laphroaig 10.

>>21998817
sounds about right. to my memory it had the negative flavors notes i associate with really bottom shelf kinda stuff. i didnt see the value in it. but the girl at the checkout was really cute. i remember that

>>21998810
my local bevmo is great. super nice people, theyve been doing a lot of two for one sales of whiskeys in the 40/50$ price range. good beer selection. my main small liquor store, being a boozy town, has a decent selection and best prices in town. a grocery store... fuck that way overpriced unless its a major brand grocery store that basically has a liquor store hidden in it.

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Got some Dettling today, I hope the hype is real.

>>21998865
I would never buy whiskey with a horse on it.

>>21998890
how bout a horse in it?

>>21998840
>grocery store liquor
those retards only stock shit like Jameson and Crown Royal and then lock it up in the glass case to fool other retards into thinking it's any good

>>21998810
mostly negative reports on BevMo. TW's are heavily glazed in person. the floor reps are either more retarded than your typical alchie or pure slimeball trying to sell your their Spirits Direct slop. their prices have absolutely gone through the fucking roof since 2022 or so. if you buy cigars there ALWAYS feel them up because they will dry out in those bags. always keep your receipts because if you get a corked bottle you'll want to exchange it(as long as it's not too empty, dont try to tamper with it either because they'll sniff it out in the back).

my local is pretty good, aside from being 30 miles away and the prices continuing to climb. the staff are cool enough but I dont do much ass kissing because I could care less about the fomo bullshit in their lottery.

Currently have barrel selct and oaksmith gold.

Will ne buying old monk xxx and greater than gin this weekend

>>21998810
My local Total Wine (Michigan) is consistently like $5 more expensive than local places for some reason, but I've been to one in Indiana where it was much cheaper, so ymmv. MI has weird protective distribution laws mean to promote local breweries but it carries into liquor too, so we have state minimum pricing but also store raffles/giveaways are illegal for some reason.

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>>21996536

>>21999474
A shame about the price, but this is fucking ambrosia.

>>21999474
I'll never spend a premium on Ardbeg again after the Uigeadail bottling I had was "off profile". its telling that this is also a frequent problem with their flagship 10 year. Lagavulin is for crust busting faggots. Never had a bad Laphroaig though.

>>21999474
Crazy how it can taste like straight up ash yet still be delicious.

>>21999850
Corryvreckan is like pineapple, smoke and ash, though.

>>21998810
My local places mog the shit out of chains for bourbon but total wine can be solid for scotch. Prices are good and selection is good but not California Costco tier

Chains don’t exist in my state everything is locally owned. Can’t sell liquor at Walmart or any chains.

leaf here, going to chicago in June. what should i pick up? i already have WT101 and Woodford Reserve DO. Have Found North on my list so far

What are the best whiskeys to drink warm? Normally I like to drop an ice cube in but I need something I can keep in my room.

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>>22001022
If by warm you mean room temperature, all of them. Faggot.

>>22001080
Tryhardism comes from insecurity.

>>22001086
Post-modernism comes from faggotry.

>>22001022
all of them. ice/cold water will kill flavor. if its not good enough to drink neat, why drink it? same goes for beer, even macrobrew.

>>22001022
Ole Smokey Apple Pie moonshine
if you warm it up to be about the same level as warm cider or tea, it's really good

>>22001150
I've found that if I put a single ice cube in a glass of whiskey it causes an alchemical reaction that removes the sour taste (I don't like sour).

Some Bookers '26-1 tonight

>>22001150
an ice cube cuts the edge off, especially if youre at 43% n what not. though generally i agree with you.

Brother brought me some samples of EH Taylor single cask, Eagle Rare, and Blanton's bourbon from his job. What did I think of them?

>>22001589
You thought they were bland and uninspiring.

>>22001086
>Tryhardism is drinking with absolutely zero extra preparation and at peak flavour

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>43% is too strong for me
>I need to cut the edge off of 43%

The more I sip it, the more I think that Michter's Sour Mash is my new favorite whiskey. It's like bourbon and rye had a kid, with a Peach-O's mid-palate. Any other similar whiskeys to that I should be on the lookout for?

>>22002222
Uh some of the 4 roses single barrels have that similar profile and some even come in barrel strength

Look at bombergers for a special occasion bottle

Uh you would also probably enjoy the sagamore “low rye” mashbill (52% rye)

Start looking at mashbills that are 13+% rye in general

>>22001564
Try a few drops of water instead also smaller sips just enough to coat your tongue and sides of the tongue and let your saliva build up and neutralize the burn in your mouth and it leaves an amazing bouquet of flavors.
It’s a long tasting experience that takes twice as long as just regular sipping

Ice is good for a good casual sip but you should slow down a little and up your malt moment game and try to savor some moments

The intensity is part of the fun, whiskey is a contact sport you get a small rush out of the intensity

>>22001589
Buffalo trace back before all the hype started was considered decent but a mid tier flavor profile and I think that’s still where it belongs. Definitely decent but mid tier behind some of the great distilleries.

You thought they were pretty good but you could find better bottles

>>22002258
Thanks anon!

>>22002266
oh look fucking cats run the board
>try just sticking your tongue in the bowl

jk bro

What's a whiskey blend you'd recommend? Or not a blend that isn't too pricey.
I've drank Grant's, Bushmills, Jim Beam, Ballatine's, O'Brian, Shamrose, Jameson Johnny Walker Red Label, some expensive jap whiskey that tastes like every whiskey combined but mediocre, Glen Silvers, Hyde Single Malt, William Peel and William Peel Double Maturation, Wild Turkey 81.
I like Red Label and Jameson, but Jameson is pretty basic bitch.
I wanna try Maker's Mark, Buffalo Trace or Monkey Shoulder, but I wanna know what are some other entry-tier whiskeys I could try, that aren't liquid wet sock like O'Brian, or pissconcentrate like Ballatine's.

>>21994337
I reserve bourbon for that, although I don't think it's the alcohol, more my specific mindset when I'm drinking it. I find whiskey too heavy to give me that trouble making up and go.

>>22003650
you should separate whiskey into scotch, irish, bourbon, rye. who would put jameson and johnny walker into the same category? lol except the category of entry tier, but not in a bad way. that will shape your considerations

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>>21998810
For me? It's Yankee Spirits. Really good chain in southern New England (mostly Mass) that has unbeatable prices and selection. Not even a shill I swear, I had looked for Mellow Corn all over New England because it's so hard to find up here and I finally found it there for a good price

>>22003650
Glenmorangie, Glen Grant, Arran, Benriach are some of my favorites in ascending order
For budget I still think compass box is great at every pricepoint

>>22001593
This is pretty much right. They all tasted the same to me. I ended up mixing them together and making bourbon vanilla glaze for some cherry scones.

anybody try Westland? single malt from the american northwest?

I tried oban 14 today. Overall it was fine but very bland and not something I’d ever buy a bottle of.

>>21996536
Lagavulin was my favorite before they nerfed the peat content. I honestly think the 8 year is better than the 16 since the change.
These days I think Port Charlotte Heavily Peated is your best dollar for dollar islay.

>>22004849
>i have a job lol

Should I get the The Glenlivet 12 Year or 15 or 18?
Which ones do you guys enjoy?

>>22004856
ask your budget
the founders reserve is great

>>22004856
15 is the only Scotch I try to always keep on hand. It's old reliable. At least to me. If ya got the money try them all and see what ya like. If you wanna save the money, and the time, and just take my word for it, get the 15.

>>22003650
There's nothing wrong with Monkey Shoulder and it's better than some of the cheaper single malts.
Stuff like Bladnoch was more like Irish Whiskey if you like Irish Whiskey. It's harder to find since they went bankrupt and came back to life. Probably easier to just go buy Redbreast.
>>22004850
No job. Just old.

>>22004869
lol was just having a brotherly piss. next pay check dropping for some lagavulin, local has two or three on the shelf, cant remember details off hand

>>22004860
>budget
When it comes to drugs and alcohol, just like for most people, its less about budget and more about whether you want it or not lol.
>>22004860
>>22004867
I will get the 15 then. Too bad it is the 750ml. I’d like a smaller bottle. Not trying to go on a binge. I am in Canada so no bourbon but I am a bourbon drinker.
Usually order a box of numerous bourbon bottlers, always 2-4 Evan Williams black/jim beam regular and WT 101 + knobbs creek. Love bourbon.
usually 3 cheap and 2 higher quality per order.
Anyways. Thanks.

>>22004884
>When it comes to drugs and alcohol, just like for most people, its less about budget and more about whether you want it or not lol.
uh not really.
getting high is getting high. enjoying whatever side kicks come from upper tier branding is in part placebo and in part fact of craft, depending on who youre buying. your statement is weird ass and whack tho.

for most people drugs is less about budget in the other way. be glad thats not you.

also, you think a 750 is 'binging'? youre whole shit is weird.

and bourbon sucks.

Just made two old fashioneds, one with OGD BiB and one with Rittenhouse BiB. Couldn't tell the difference between the two. What does it mean?

>>22004954
maybe he shouldnt have gone to a high conflict area with a fucking gun?

>>22004141
Yeah, I did mix them all into one category. I feel like Red Label and Jameson have that particular non-overbearing flavour profile, but yeah, they're different.
>>22004869
Can't find Bladnoch in my local liquor store, bought Monkey Shoulder instead. The nice liquor store lady was nice.

>>22004967
Bad bot

>>22002165
Tryhardism is drinking something warm that's better cold so you can look down your nose at people who do that.

>>22005223
>better cold
shit pour

room temperature is not warm
nobody calls food served at room temp "warm", so it shouldn't apply to whiskey either

>>22005448
This.
Lower temperature reduces sensitivity to flavor.
Thus, only bad tasting whiskey is better cold.

>>22005572
but all whiskey is bad tasting, so it's all better on ice

>>22005758
>>>/lgbt/

>>22004925
> also, you think a 750 is 'binging'? youre whole shit is weird.
Usually I buy a box of whiskey at once but this time I am just buying a one bottle.

>>22004925
Bourbon is the best. I wouldn’t even venture into scotch if bourbon was available. Bourbon was honestly love at first taste. The base flavor (idk enough to list notes) of bourbon is amazing. Love all bottles of bourbon. No needs to ask for opinions or recommendations. Just buy every bottle.
This is the reason I am here asking for scotch recommendations. I don’t really want to buy one but I want some type of whisky. If bourbon was available, I would be buying a box every month and trying out all brands and bottles.
No such thing as a bad bourbon bottle.

>>22006124
Meant for>>22004926

Is the Glenlivet with bourbon cask or whatever good?

>>22006124
I kind of agree and disagree. I like bourbon and probably drink it the most since there’s a lot of quality stuff for cheap in the US but at the same time it can get kind of boring. After trying and buying many bottles of bourbon I’m kind of bored of it now. I know what I like and I’d rather just buy those few bottles that I really like than try something new. I think it’s because bourbon does have that very samey base flavor which is enjoyable but at the same time doesn’t leave a lot of room for nuance.
I agree that there aren’t many bourbons I would say suck but that vast majority are middle of the road and forgettable. I’ve been trying some scotchs recently and there is way more variability between brands. Some of them are absolutely terrible while others I’ve found are enjoyable. Rye I feel like is the same way as scotch where there is more variability between brands than bourbon although not as much as scotch.

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>>21994337
for me it's the old fashioned. it turns me into a good old fashioned wife beater and illegal trash dumper

Cocktail guy here with two questions
1) Do you guys have any suggestions for especially oaky/bitter whiskeys that don't necessarily have a ton of other character, for the purpose of mixing with other less oaky/bitter spirits in order to balance them? For something that fills a similar role, think long aged column still rums.
2) Anyone have any (grape) brandies that they particularly like? I've tried a couple, and I kinda like remy martin with st martin as an obvious value choice, but nothing so far as really impressed me too hard. I haven't tried the Christian Bros BiB brandy yet; it kinda seems like it would be what I'm looking for with it's higher proof but the low price tag kinda makes me wonder if it's too good to be true.

>>22006462
Probably the most commonly found super oaky whiskey you'll find is Woodford Reserve Double Oaked.

why does johnnie walker red taste like cigarettes

>>21994332
I think people should start with the nice, approachable taste of Laphroaig to ease their way into peaty aromas and volatiles

>>22006792
are you being ironical?


>>22006462
damn, great questions. somebody somewhere must like brandy. i find it on the disgusting and poiintless side

>>22006462
Russels Reserve 10 year tends to be fairly oak forward.

>>22006551
because it's smoky but also thin and cheap at the same time

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>>21994332
First four bottles of whiskey I ever bought
What should be the first scotch single malt I try?

>>22004869
Monkey Shoulder is great

>>22007296
Not the worst start in the world. My personal favorite for a single malt scotch is Glenfiddich 12 year. There are better, sure. But it's pretty cheap if you're just getting into the scotch world. From there look into different types of scotch. E.G. Isla, Highlands, lowlands, etc. as they all have different profiles.

>>22006462
Re: grape brandies, Armagnac is where it's at.
Not a grape brandy but Calvados is quite lovely and good value because the younger ones are actually better.

Aberlour has to be my favorite scotch distillery so far. I'm not too experienced and have tried maybe 20 different single malts but everything I've tried from aberlour (12yo, NCF 48%, a'bunadh) have all been instantly delicious from the first sip. I guess I like sherry

>>22007826
Give Glendronach 12 a shot if you haven't already.

>>22007829
I have a bottle of it actually, was pretty good when I tried it but not an instant favorite. I'll keep sampling though

I just bought a bottle of Laphroaig cask strength for 90 dollars. What will I think about it.

>>22007872
what batch?

>>22007887
Batch 16

>>22007839
If you've just had the neck pour, usually the second pour is way more different than you'd expect if you wait at least a few days between pours.
I have no idea what goes on, chemically, when you open a bottle, pour some out then let the spirit interact with the new air let into it for a few days, but it *really* changes things, and, in my experience, typically for the better.
It's one of those things that sounds like it's placebo bullshit but when you really investigate it you find it's not bullshit and it's very real.

Bought a bottle of the 2025 Kilchoman Loch Gorm.
Excited to try it, only ever had their Sanaig, which I loved.

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Hello Sir, please do not redeem the Whisky

Quite like this one actually, has a pleasant herbal spice to it

>>22008358
What is it with indians and whiskey anyway. Did they get it from the Brits?

>>22008613
A mix of that and it's easier to make in the heat of India than other alcoholic beverages

>>22007296
This is pretty much all you need. But personally I would step it up to the knob 9 it’s worth it. I would swap the Evan’s for a handle of wt101
Monkey shoulder is practically single malt it’s 100% malt at least. Try a compass box orchard house next. Or a tullibardine or Speyburn as decent budget Scotch. You should really shoot for next trying a Balvine 12 and a Glennfiddich 14
Idk whiskey is a journey keep trying stuff after that. You should try a bottle of Smokey scotch after that.

>>22008358
>herbal spice
>india
you're tasting feces

>>22008739
>>22007549
thanks. I will probably try something smoky soon. I like smoky flavors in other things
WT101 is probably a little overpriced over here, the 7 year jim beam and evan williams were like half the price

>>22008771
What is the price of 101 where you’re at? Wt101 is about 23 dollars for 750 ml here and it’s better most whiskeys 3 times its price

>>22008826
120 pln, which would be 33$. the monkey shoulder cost me 99 pln, the black Jim Beam was some promo for 69 pln
might buy it anyway after I finish one of these other bourbons

I’ve seen people gassing up this years old forester 1924 and I never had a previous batch, but I can confirm it’s delicious. Overpriced but compared to the similar brown-foreman offerings it’s actually the cheapest

>>22009118
1924 just tastes like Woodford Reserve Double Oaked to me but hotter without having any extra flavor.

hidden barn, the madeira barrel one

sipped the bottle of islay i got as a gift 2 years ago after initially hating it and wtf i like it now?

>>22007296
>>22007549
>>22007549
quite enjoying this 7 year jim beam so far btw, might be my favorite of these

>>22009807
see
>>22008301
Even more so if it's been two fucking years since you opened it.

Are port charlotte and ledaig more like ardbeg or laphroaig.

>>22009899
Personally I find PC, Laphroiag, and Ardbeg to be fairly similar and Ledaig closer to something like Talisker where the peat isnt necessarily the primary characteristic.

>>21995259
NTA that but the thing is that yes, it's probably in their head. That shit is strong. I know people that get absolutely mean on certain alcohols and they've believed it for so long that it actually manifests. Don't underestimate the power of psychosomatic effects.

>>21994332
Laphroaig.

>>22009935
interesting. I have a similar experience with Absinthe. Every time I drink it, things will start breaking around me, even if I'm just observing it. It basically gives me luck -10

>>22009935
My dad gets mean whenever he drinks fireball, I think it's something to do with the artificial cinnamon flavor.

>>22010034
shits got the same ingredient as anti freeze

>>22010034
I don't get why people drink fireball, honey jim beam or other flavored whiskeys
why go through the trouble of aging it in a barrel just to add a bunch of artificial flavoring to it?

>>22010309
they only drink for effect and they drink a lot so the flavor helps them CONSOOM better faster harder stronger

>>22007307
It's always been a budget champ.
Now you're free to go look for other malt blends and understand how they're distinct from blended whisky.

>>22010425
Just avoid Johnnie Walker Green Label, which tastes very bad and is very overpriced.

>>22010547
Are any of the Johnnie Walker range worth it?
Feels like some people like Black but I also saw others shit on it

>>22011000
black is better than red, and ive never had the super expensive shit, but i dont think ill go out of my way to get johnny walker any time soon

>>22011000
Black is ok for the price and what it is, a cheap mixer.

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>>22008749
Tasting feces would be Namibian whisky with actual elephant dung.

>>22011293
at least that's a known quantity of specific feces
the entire country of India is covered in the excrement of everything living thing and judging by their cooking videos no one there has discovered the spoon

>>22011000
>Are any of the Johnnie Walker range worth it?
Hard no.

>>22011000
The 18 year is a guilty pleasure for me, I always scoop it up if it's on sale for under 100
I've always wanted to try the blue lable cask strength too but I think it was a limited run

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I HATE THE ABC

>>21995115
Maybe he did and they just didn't have a word for it. Remember part of that story is that they were on day 3 of the wedding reception and usually all the good wine is drank first but the host was complimented for saving the best stuff for last after people tried Jesus' alcohol.

>>22011434
They're not worth 1/4 of the price.

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How do you feel about anime lesbians infusing Glenlivet Nadurra Oloroso with strawberries and rock sugar?

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>>22011571
And then serving the leftover on the rocks.

>>22011571
>>22011578
kinda mad, actually.

>>22011647
It's just Glenlivet trash.
I'd have to slap them if they used Glendronach.

>>22006462
johnnie walker black is inexpensive enough and works for this

>>22012590
It is not especially oaky or especially bitter, Diageo shill. It is not especially anything except water-like.

>>22012832
a little bitterness from the burnt caramel flavor added with E150a

>>22008358
Rampur double cask is genuinely in my top 10 single malts

>>22007823
Any specific reccs for either? I've got a bottle of Lairds BiB and that's the closest thing to a calvados I've ever had.

>>22013134
Delord 25 year Armagnac is a ridiculous value. You can get this for around $80. Yes, you can get a 25 year old bottle of Armagnac for $80.
Calvados wise, I've really enjoyed Domaine du Manoir de Montreuil Selection Calvados Pays d'Auge and VSOP Chauffe Coeur Calvados.

>>22013217
Not that guy but I've never had armagnac and just looked at some that's available for purchase near me, the age/price ratios seem pretty crazy and I didn't find any reviews anywhere for any of the ones I saw listed. In the ballpark of 50 year armagnac being like 20x cheaper than 50 year scotch, are old armagnacs as good as the ages imply?

>>22013246
I mean they're gonna be oaky as fuck.
If that's your thing (it's my thing) then you'll like them.

>>22013246
nta but it depends on how balanced the french oak tannins are. I have a Domaine Tariquet 15 cask strength and it's kinda like a young bourbon as far as oak:distillate ratio goes.

Speaking of calvados, Murray hill club special release 4 is finished in calvados, it’s quite good but overrated in my opinion for that price it’s close to KC 21. I’d sooner recommend their most well known product in the cigar blend

I drank a lot last night and I had weird dreams and woke up depressed, maybe I shouldn’t drink anymore
Also people at bars rarely click with me so I spent most of the night just trying to find people to talk to

Im going to Asia to visit family, is it better to get johnnie black or bourbon? i don’t want this shit to get too expensive, but I feel like bourbon is a much better choice since I live in the stated and it not imported.

>>22013845
Get a bourbon that’s rare enough that it doesn’t get exported. You are probably going to have to spend a little more than $30 though for something great

>>22013845
Yes, get them bourbon for sure

>>22013389
>finished in calvados
This will do pretty much absolutely fucking nothing because Calvados casks are, intentionally, really, really exhausted casks so as not to overwhelm the fruit flavor with oak. Like, really old Calvados doesn't even really taste like oak.

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>>22013845
I would try to get them the Evan Williams USA 250th bottle. It's cheap, pretty good, and a fun limited edition that you'd probably never find outside the US otherwise.

>>22013875
>>22013909
>>22014234

I ended up getting them a woodford reserve kentucky derby edition. Was this good or nah?

>>22014258
Out of all your options that was probably your worst. That is just a special bottle design full of regular Woodford, which your Asian relatives can probably already get over in bugland. But fuck it, if they're not whiskey drinkers they won't know the difference nor would they appreciate better bourbon anyway.

>>22014258
Flavor wise it’s one of my favorite cocktail bourbons

Nice looking derby bottle, you probably did well for people that don’t drink a lot of bourbon
Woodford is easy drinking good stuff, especially for beginners

>>22014277
It $100 over in Asia, wow that kind of crazy.

Bros tonight I decided to polish off a bottle of WT101 that had been sitting with ~3 oz remaining for a year or so. I thought I didn't like WT101 but wtf this is delicious, with perfectly balanced notes of orchard fruits, caramel, cinnamon, sweet oak, and rye spices. Even the mouthfeel is way better than I remember. I wasn't going to replace this bottle because I've built a collection of much more exclusive and expensive whiskeys but now I'm rethinking everything.

>>22014525
Wt101 is an insane value. I found that the more bourbon I drank the more I appreciated it. I drink it way more than any other whiskey and I always have a handle of it on hand.

>>22014525
I know there are differing opinions about this, but to me oxidation almost always improves spirits. I was over at my in-laws last week and they had a bottle of knob creek 120 proof that only had about 100ml remaining. I had left it there 1-2 years ago? I don't even remember but it was really nicely mellowed out and easy drinking.

Neck pour is always the worst and the last bit of the bottle always tastes the best.

>>22014530
I agree that the neck pour is the worst 9/10 times, but in my experience of a bottle site at around 15% for an extended period it does get worse
>>22014122
Calvados themselves using refill casks is kind of irrelevant since the calvados cask will inherit the calvados flavor. If anything then being refill will reinforce this, less oak impact more sprit. In my experience any form of brandy finish ends up pretty heavy handed.

>>22014544
https://scotchwhisky.com/magazine/opinion-debate/the-debate/19020/do-a-cask-s-previous-contents-matter/
>Do a cask’s previous contents matter?
Here, two people give opposing opinions on the question.

>NO… not really: Stuart MacPherson, Master of Wood, Edrington
>‘”No” is probably too strong a word, because what was previously in a cask does have an influence on the whisky... Our belief is that it does have an impact on the development of the liquid and the flavour, but it’s not as much as people think.
>‘I normally tell people that the contribution of the cask is really multi-layered. For me, there are three main drivers, starting with the geographic origin of the oak, down to the terroir it grew in – the soil, hillside and so on.
>‘Then there’s the cask construction – its size, shape and the treatment of the wood, all of which can significantly influence the flavour of the whisky.
>‘After that there is the previous use of the cask, and therefore how active it is.’
So, he states that the three main factors, in order from most to least important, are the wood, the cask construction, and the previous use of the cask.
If you read his entire explanation, you'll see he explains that the influence from the previous use of the cask comes entirely down to what the previous spirit extracted or didn't extract from the wood, and has jack shit to do with any flavor added to the cask from the spirit.
"And therefore how active it is" means it is how much flavor the previous spirit has extracted from the wood, and not any flavor added to the wood by that spirit, which affects the flavor of the whisky.

The person giving the opposing opinion is a whisky and food writer, not someone who actually makes whisky for a living, and, more importantly, a woman. Opinion disregarded. In fact, a woman saying the previous spirit adds flavor only enhances the argument that it does not.

>>22014544
>>22014558
tl;dr: No, the whiskey is not going to inherit the Calvados' flavor.
The previous contents of a cask have negligible to zero impact on the flavor of a whiskey (other than indirectly by virtue of what it does or does not extract from a cask), and Calvados is a delicate spirit.

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>>22014544
I suppose something less robust than KC 120 would maybe not do as well. And I've found peaty stuff like Ardbeg suffers a bit after a year.

Speaking of Calvados, Camut is some beautiful stuff.

>>22014561
Previous spirit inherited by a cask does matter, you are genuinely retarded. A sherry cask is not the same as a bourbon cask

>>22014578
>A sherry cask is not the same as a bourbon cask
Yes, but the reason why is a sherry cask is toasted whereas a bourbon cask is charred.

>>22014581
This reads like chatGPT. Sherry cask maturation imparts Sherry flavour. Especially the whole “link article and interpret it wholesale” reeks of blatant bot faggotry. The person quoted in it isn’t even a distiller, this “Stuart macpherson” is an acquisitions pencil pusher that acquires casks, of course he wants to downplay the important of casks. It directly makes his job easier.

>>22014587
>I'm a retard who can't identify AI and I think it's AI!
Not an argument.
>Sherry cask maturation imparts Sherry flavour.
The WOOD in sherry casks imparts the same flavors on whisky that it does on sherry.
It is not the sherry that was previously in the cask imparting that flavor on the whisky.
Sherry cask-aged whisky tastes like sherry because it contains the same WOOD flavors as sherry, since it is aged in the same WOOD as sherry.
When you drink a sherry cask-aged whisky, you are not detecting the flavor of sherry. You are detecting WOOD flavors that are also found in sherry.

>>22014558
>>22014561
>>22014581
You’ve been posting this dumb shit for way too long and it’s not even remotely true. Smarten up

>>22014593
>!
Yep, it’s ai slop

>>22014593
>It is not the sherry that imparts that sherry flavor to the whisky
This is the sort of thing that only a college educated person could believe.

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>this nigga thinks he knows more than somebody who has been working with Scotch casks for over 40 fucking years

>>22014600
Bad bot doesn’t know the “appeal to authority fallacy”

>>22014595
I should really start using em dashes just to trigger Luddites.

>>22014601
Can LLMs with tool-calling capabilities actually screenshot a Google search, crop the relevant part out of it and post it as a png, along with posting a post that's relevant to the image?
That's actually really impressive if they can but I doubt it.

>>22014600
Shit tier bot, he’s not a master distiller his job is to get casks for master distillers. He’s the exact type of person who wishes cask didn’t matter

Hypothetical scenario:
Spirit A and Spirit B are both aged in casks made from Wood Type A. The base spirits are different, though.
Chemical/molecular differences between Spirit A and Spirit B lead to them extracting more/less of different flavors from Wood Type A.
Both casks are then emptied and whisky is aged in them.
The result is actually going to be that the whiskey aged in Spirit A's cask will taste more like Spirit B than Spirit A, and the whiskey aged in Spirit B's cask will taste more like Spirit A.
To illustrate, let's say Spirit A extracted the following from the cask:
>a lot of Flavor A
>a lot of Flavor B
>a little of Flavor C
>a little of Flavor D
Let's say Spirit B extracted the following from the cask:
>a lot of Flavor C
>a lot of Flavor D
>a little of Flavor A
>a little of Flavor B
This means that Spirit A tastes primarily like Flavor A and Flavor B, and Spirit B tastes primarily like Flavor C and Flavor D.
This ALSO means that the whiskey aged in Spirit A's cask will taste primarily of Flavor C and Flavor D (since Spirit A extracted little of these flavors) whereas the whiskey aged in Spirit B's cask will taste primarily of Flavor A and Flavor B (since flavor B extracted little of these flavors.)
You're not tasting the spirit the cask previously held. You're just tasting wood flavors. What wood flavors you taste are dependent on what the previous spirit did and did not extract from said wood.

>>22014618
>He’s the exact type of person who wishes cask didn’t matter
Except he's absolutely not fucking saying the cask doesn't matter.

A similar google search reveals that a 500L cask will absorb ~15L of Sherry (or calvados or anything else) into its staves that will be drawn out and mix with whatever whisky fills it next

>>22014637
This has a negligible effect on flavor.

>>22014639
ChatGPT slop

>>22014641
Not an argument.
That's 1/3 of a teaspoon compared with a 2 ounce dram.
If you pour 1/3 of a teaspoon of a delicate spirit like Calvados into a 2 ounce dram of fucking BOURBON, an intensely flavored spirit, you are NOT going to taste that shit.

>>22014645
Bot is broken and repeating itself

>>22014645
This is so insanely bot coded it’s hilarious
>le epic capitalization
>starts off the response with a “meme”
>posts blatantly wrong shit as if it’s a matter of fact
Like holy shit you’ll definitely taste fucking brandy if you add into a dram of whiskey, you taste the difference if it was fucking water. The internet is so rancid nowadays, shit is genuinely subhuman, soulless trash.

>>22014645
>That's 1/3 of a teaspoon compared with a 2 ounce dram.
It's actually less than that.
If the cask's wood itself can hold 15L of spirit, then you fill the sherry cask with unaged whiskey, all 15L of that sherry will not be imparted to the whiskey. The spirit in the cask will end up being part sherry, part whiskey.

>>22014651
>you taste the difference if it was fucking water
Well, yes, but you wouldn't say "you will detect additional flavor notes from water if you add water."
You taste a difference because it dilutes the drink and it separates the guaiacol.
So, sure, you'd taste a DIFFERENCE if you added a tiny amount of Calvados, but you're not going to fucking taste Calvados. The bourbon flavors will be slightly diluted and you may detect that, and it may or may not cause some funky chemical reactions like the guaiacol separating that you'll be able to detect, but you're not going to actually taste a delicate spirit like Calvados added to a very strong tasting spirit like bourbon in that relatively tiny of an amount.

>>22014658
Your analogy of teaspooning wine into bourbon is absurd and not how whisky works in the first place. Next thing you’ll be telling me you can dip a toothpick in moonshine and suddenly be drinking scotch

>>22014647
>"The bot is broken and repeating itself," he said, his voice barely a whisper, shivers running down his spine. He took a deep breath — his heart pounding in his chest — the air thick with the scent of peat smoke. He leaned back against his chair, his voice steady despite him feeling anxiety and something else entirely, his ministrations constant, his knuckles turning white.

>>22014665
I showed your mother an analogy, if you catch my drift.

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>>22014669
Now you got me un chill filtered

>>22014658
You would absolutely taste calvados if you put drops into a dram of whiskey, what a retard

>>22014558
>and, more importantly, a woman
The irony of this.

This Stuart fag works for a conglomerate that manages a bunch of companies. The most famous one is probably Macallan. Macallan has a female master distiller, right around the time of this article too.

I opened the Laphroaig cs bottle this weekend. This is a 9/10 for me I can’t find it around my area very often unfortunately.

>>22014985
Nah you're wrong.

>>22014525
Yeah WT101 is just like that, and Rare Breed is just more extreme about how both much flavor it has and what you need to do to get it to come out. It's actually extremely hard to find anything that straight up beats it that isn't already just a variation of it.

If you're using a fresh bottle of 101, absolutely try mixng/diluting it so that the harsher flavors don't overwhelm the sweetness and subtlety it actually has. It's the most fucking amazing bourbon to use as a mixer, just do that to use up enough of the bottle until it airs out enough that it gets amazing sipped on its own.

>uhm acktsually the previous spirit doesn't matter
Notto this shitto again. Anyone with functioning tastebuds can easily go try sherry/wine/rum casked scotch for himself and see it actually does affect the flavor.

>>22014995
>Macallan has a female master distiller
No wonder it sucks lmao

>>22015030
I recently got lucky finding a Ardbeg 10 cask strength at a local store near me they were over charging a little (130) but it’s the latest thing I’ve tried that I really enjoy. I would put it just behind Laphroaig cask strength in quality

>>22015146
along with rebranded packaging this is single handedly showing what distilleries to avoid.

>>22015223
>a little(130)
what's the price of regular Ardbeg 10 at the same store?

>>22015146
Pretending macallan is bad is retarded

>>22015405
There's no pretending, it's almost common knowledge at this point m8. Bland flavors, low quality core range, overpriced, focused on branding itself as super premium expensive shit for millionaires to fleece collectors. It probably used to be good sometime before we were even born, but it certainly isn't at the current time.

I've tried 12, 18 and some whatever edition meme bottle (but not one of the mega expensive ones) and they're all underwhelming.

>>22015431
None of this actually says anything other than “I do not have my own opinions and do not know what I am talking about”

>>22015435
I recently tried macallan 12 and thought it was awful. I mostly drink rye and bourbon though so maybe I don’t know.

>>22015435
I in fact did not just trust other people's opinions and tried it myself. And I discovered that Macallan actually does suck, it's just coasting by it's brand name and the reputation it built decades ago.

It doesn’t suck per se, but it is most definitely overpriced. So much so that if I were to buy an alternative at its price bracket the alternative would be better. And similarly I could obtain the same quality for less. Therefore, it effectively sucks as it has no reason to exist and I disrespect them for price gouging

>>22015446
You can’t even convince yourself, mental midget

>>22015575
I can't help but to notice you haven't presented any arguments beyond autistic screetching. What exactly are you expecting people to debate you on when you have no position in the first place?

>>22015431
>Bland flavors
Yeah. This is all that really needs to be said.

Ha I wasn’t crazy about macallan either but my thing was I thought it was sickly sweet almost like some kind of syrupy candy drink … was a 12 year Sherry I bought sometime around 2010 and it discouraged me from bothering with the rest of their lineup

How much whiskey do you guys drink per week?

>>22015711
Any where from 50ml to 750ml

The point is we open a few bottles and let them air out enough and then savor them with a few drops of water

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>with a few drops of water
>>22001080

>>22015711
I open a new bottle (and empty one from my cabinet) every 3 weeks

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>>22013217
Got the Manoir Montreuil upon your suggestion, at it is actually quite nice. It is definitely sufficiently different from Lairds as to be worthwhile. Part of me kinda wishes it was younger though, I feel like while the oak on something like the lairds lends itself to applejack's "whiskey made from apples" qualities, the sweeter and fresher profile I'm getting from this calvados feels like it wants to be less bitter.
Speaking of bitterness, I tried some of this at a bar recently and it made me massively surprised as to why reposado mezcals aren't way more common, because this stuff is great. Something about the bitterness from the aging goes super well with the mezcal smokeyness.

>>22015913
The casks they use for Calvados are so spent that they don't really impart bitterness. The really old Calvados really just get rancio from the casks and not bitterness or traditional oakiness.
The younger a Calvados is, the more the fruit shines through. The best Calvados, IMO, are young Calvados made with quality fruit. A young Calvados made with sub-par fruit can be really bad, though.

>>22015711
depends on my agenda and how i would like to feel, and how broke or not broke i feel. i mean a bottle a day is pretty alcoholic. split it over two days and take the rest of the week of whiskey drinking.... ok. depends on how lit i wanna feel. like just a bit cozy? or do i wanna do it jim morrison style? etc.

>>22015711
I hardly drink any whiskey at all because I’m not an alcoholic. I drink maybe one dram per year. So I’ve only had about two bottles of whiskey in my life but I come here to assert my authority on the topic

>>22016209
you have no power here.

>>22015711
Not enough

>>22015711
Depends on the week. Anywhere from 2 to 8oz. Less if I'm feeling rum or tiki cocktails instead of sipping bourbon.

>>21994332
they make good soy sauce too.

I am sipping on an uigeadail. This is much better than the 10 it’s not even close.

>>22016813
Kinda silly to even compare
>non cask-strength, heavily peated, aged in bourbon casks
with
>cask-strength, heavily peated, aged in bourbon and sherry casks

>>22016885
Uigeadail isnt cask strength, its batch strength. every batch is the same strength regardless of the cask make up.

Ardbeg has aced 3 out of 3 for me with the 10, Uigedail, and Corryvreckan all being excellent. I keep hearing it’s way over priced but I might spring for one of the 13 year harpy’s tale bottles while they’re still on the shelves

>>22015623
>muh argument
Mental midget and terminally online

>>22016922
they arent endangered

Why is “non chill filtered” only a consideration in scotch and not something you really hear about in the world of bourbon ?

>>22016577
No that’s kirchoman
>>22017089
Good question. Some bourbon is chill filtered while I feel most aren’t. Probably less people give a shit because it’s not as delicate as barley in colder climate reused casks so chill filtering doesn’t further rape the already rough bourbon

>>22017089
Same reason why bourbon fans think anything below 100 proof is watery garbage while scotch fans will barely ever go over like 90

>>22017089
A lot of it probably isn’t chill filtered since it doesn’t really even matter at higher than 50% abv or higher. Ironically if it is done in bourbon it’s probably for taste rather than cosmetically which is done in scotch. Bourbon has that new charred oak, and high cask action due to hotter climates, you could probably skim out some of this fatty compounds and still have loads of flavor opposed to scotch in which you’ll just kill it

>>22001022
When it's too warm I just switch to rum, that's what I usually do during summer.

>>22018061
I love it when a whiskey dries on the side of the glass after a sip and it leaves a pale white haze of dried oak essence on the surface inside

That’s peak quality for me

JD SBBP rye does this

Elijah Craig barrel proof rye is finally hitting my area. I tend not to like the barely legal 51% ryes but I'm probably going to pick one up to add to my bottle hoard.

>>22018185
>>22018259
As a rye enjoyer and purist I can’t condone either of these barely legal ryes. You should hunt down a bottle of new rift balboa if you want to taste rye at its best.

>>22017893
I'm a scotch enjoyer that doesn't care much about bourbon and I can't answer that question, cask strength is almost always better than the bottles that are watered down to more "standard" proof.

Maybe the merchants need to start being less jewish and the buyers need to demand better quality, as if either of those would ever happen lmao

I like some scotches but paying 100 dollars for 80-85 proof bottles is retarded.

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>>22019240
this, buy spirytus / everclear instead to really get your money's worth proof-wise. anything under 190 proof is basically water desu

>Last Saturday
>Have to go to a party store to pick up a balloon order
>Binnys right next door
>See a line of like 30 people waiting to get in
>See what's happening
>Told it's an allocation drop day
>Don't need anything except a 12 pack for the party I am going to so I was allowed inside
>See the allocation drop area
>Nothing by Sazerac Rye and EH Taylor

Does Illinois ever release a list of allocation? I never really paid attention

>>22019255
Classic cope. All the scotchs I tried that were 100+ proof were much better than the 80 proof slop you guys will buy with a smile. You are paying for them to water it down.

>Found a backup of my Willett Purple Top 4 year

Sweet.

>>22019454
This is everywhere in my area for 60. I was talking to my guy about it and he said they aren’t moving bottles.

>>22019479
They're still fairly hard to find in my area. They are dropping often but the stores they are in seem to be random

>>22019484
I’ve been meaning to buy it but I haven’t been buying many bourbons recently. I have a bottle of the green top which is great but I’ve heard mixed things about the bourbon.

>>22019557
I personally really love the bourbon. To the point it's the only bottle I have that I bought a backup of.

>>22019322
I suspect Binny's sells their allocated bottles to other Patel owned stores. It makes no sense that the largest liqour chain in Illinois never has any allocated product on the shelves. No one should have to wait in line for EH Taylor anymore. Sal's liquor just had it available and on sale for $49 a few weeks ago.

>>22019583
I think Binnys just drops their stuff without fanfare and people just get there early on Saturday hoping to find something rare

>>22019583
So Binnys actually puts all of the more uncommon stuff they get throughout the week on shelves Saturday morning. It's not a true Allocation drop but sometimes you get lucky and they get a few rarer things

I'm a whisklet but I'm looking to try something new this weekend. What's the consensus on Jack Daniels? Is it worth trying or is it meme tier?

>>22019657
kind of mid and slightly overpriced for what it is
if you want cheap bourbon, buy evan williams black label instead

>>22019657
>>22019668
>If you want absolutely bottom barrel priced bourbon that isn't dogshit but is just a bit watery, buy Evan Williams Black Label instead
>If you want cheap bourbon that's good, buy Wild Turkey 101 instead
FTFY

>>22019668
>>22019706
Hmmm...

>>22019732
depends on how cheap you want it

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Looks like brown forman is up for sale.

>>22019811
that was fast