>>22012725
boiled chicken :(
boiled chicken, Chinese :D

>>22012807
poached chicken is great though

>>22012725
might be worth the bother and ingredient waste if you've got some expensive heritage chicken meat

for supermarket shitshow chicken breast you'd be retarded though.

I thought it sounded bad until I had it. It's an indictment of western cooking that "chicken cooked in broth" implies terrible. Like how fucking simple is it, and yet westoids still cannot fathom doing it right.

I guess it's the same with sushi, like raw fish, raw fish japan. You can try to write it off as weebism but you can't argue with the fact that they do it better because details matter.

>>22012897
the gigantic industrial nu-chicken breast fibers in the pic would very very obviously be awful with any kind of mild seasoning method. Doesn't matter how perfect you get anything else.

>>22012897
>chicken cooked in broth" implies terrible.
According to who? Is chicken soup a foreign concept to you?
>sushi
That's pure cultural preference and raw fish is not unique to japan. Mexicans have Ceviche.

>>22012935
I pressure cooked nu chicken the other day and made a thread about it. It came out incredibly tender and moist because the connective tissues are annihilated. Yeah it's not the traditional method of poaching it but there are ways to make the dish easily with arnold swordsanegger steroid chicken.

>>22012978
ceviche isn't raw it's cooked by acid

>>22013027
>ceviche isn't raw it's cooked by acid
That's not cooking. "Cooked by acid" is a dumb euphemism to comfort white people without going into details about various methods of denaturing proteins.

>>22012828
This. Cooklets will never understand the difference.

>>22013074
I think you are so desperate to be unique that you will ignore reality to comfort yourself

>>22013077
I see literally no way that this statement applies to my post.

>>22013081
That makes a lot of sense to me

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>>22013084
Yet this definition somehow does not?

Better than Wuhan chicken

>>22012897
>The west = America

Kill yourself you fat retard.

>>22012935
Eh, yes and no. I've had it made with industrial north american chickens in 'merica, and I've had it made with the muy autentico picosa picante ay ay me pica ayam kampung in the dankest most unregulated back alley warungs of kesultanan johor, and in both cases they put white people wood-fiber chicken breast to shame. Though obviously the real kampung shit is better

>>22012897
End your life you fucking retard

>>22012935
>can't cook chicken breast
a resounding self-report. well done!

>>22013074
It is cooking. It's a chemical reaction that theoretically cooks the sea food. You're just being intentionally obtuse

>>22013074
retard cooklette

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>>22013076
There is no difference

>>22013179
>>22013186
See >>22013087
You're conflating euphemisms with reality.

>>22013101
yes
in fact, the world is america + guests
hope this helps, foreign faggot

>>22012828
I'm not breaking the law for some chicken breasts.

>>22013166
you can make decent food with gigachickens but not with delicate wet cooking that also washes away their minimal flavor

>>22013233
What does acid do

>>22013243
Brother we lost our influence in 2024 when we reelected the fella who shits his pants and fucks kids

>>22012978
The mexican ceviche has tomato....yucky

>>22013248
In what sense?
The acid ionizes parts of the protein structure causing them to unfold. This process is not exothermic (ie. does not produce heat).

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>>22013152
>>22013101

>>22012828
Depends on what you’re poaching it in

>>22012725
The chicken itself is basically just a vehicle for eating the yummy scallion "pesto" sort of sauce they serve it with.

>>22013621
Acids absolutely produce heat ya fuckin tard

>>22012807
>boiled chicken :(
>boiled chicken, Chinese :D
THIS

It's pathetic that anyone would disagree with this.

The chicken itself isn't anything amazing, but the rice and sauces make up for it

>>22014145
Depends on the reaction ya fuckin tard.
The ceviche reaction is endothermic.

>>22014330
Does that process involve heat?

>>22014344
Ambient temperature.

>>22014365
HANG ON, so a process that inherently involves heat affects the protein structure of the food? Boy that sounds like cooking

>>22014401
Is leaving chicken on the counter overnight "cooking" to you?

>>22014482
Not even remotely the same thing. Endothermic reaction is like melting ice. You can't melt ice without heat. You're wrong and can't handle it

>>22012725
terrible.... compared to soy sauce marinated chicken. Unless you're eating premium AAA hen it's pointless to choose the lesser seasonings

>>22013074
It is indeed cooking buddy

>>22013951
your aunt's phanny

>>22014532
Is leaving frozen chicken on the counter cooking then, you silly, silly boy?

>>22014049
>>22014196
has never tasted it

>>22013179
>theoretically
so we are still trying to figure it out? does it cook the food or doesnt it?

>>22012725
The place I used to work at had a cafeteria with a chicken rice stall, I'd alternate between getting the fried / roasted / boiled. You could also add on some mushrooms in brown sauce or some bok choy, sometimes I'd go for both. Shit was cash.

>>22014756
if the room was hot then yes. kind of like how leaving an egg on the sidewalk is cooking if it's really hot outside.

>>22015082
It's up in the air

>>22012897
Why are people getting so upset over this

>>22012725
My father lived and worked in Hong Kong in the 80s, he has been chasing after the taste of Hainan chicken he's had there for a few decades now, I must have eaten dozens of variations but he still hasn't found it yet. At this point we've been thinking about getting him a round trip ticket so he can enjoy it again and let us eat something else but the place he used to go to probably doesn't exist anymore.

Other than that I like it but you need good chicken.

>>22016178
Does making ceviche require the room be "hot?"

>>22017528
I'm not that guy I just responded to your one post I didn't read your whole gay argument

>>22017513
Poach a whole chicken in water for 30 minutes. Keep the cooking liquid hot but not enough to bubble. Dunk the whole thing in ice water to arrest cooking afterwards

You can add stuff like ginger and pandan to the poaching liquid

>>22017513
I doubt anyone raises chickens in HK anymore, and Shenzhen has become one of the richest cities on the planet. If he wants the real deal he has to go to peninsular malaysia

>>22013074
So it’s just lutefisk??

>>22012897
This isn't an Asian thing you dumb burger

>>22017761
I'm sorry you're feeling insecure about your country's miserable excuse for food but at least you're not american! You can always cling to that!

>>22017674
He's already tried dozens of different preps, from all homemade to different prepared packets he's had friends bring from different places or had delivered. I think he's chasing a very precise taste that has gotten amplified over the years in his head, he'll probably never get it again. Closest he's had is some package a friend bought in an airport in Malaysia but even then not satisfied.
>>22017743
No idea where the chicken would come from at that time, he lived and shopped in Happy Valley if that means anything to anyone who's been in Hong Kong. Is Shenzhen really that rich now? When I went in the 2000s it was an industrial frontier town, huge yeah but dirty and very ghetto. Never been to Malaysia other than the airport, only know the jingle ''Malaysiaaaa,truly Asiaaaa'' on TV lol.

>>22017851
Yeah people would have definitely had access to informally raised poultry in happy valley 40 years ago. As for shenzhen it's like basically a turbo long island city. Was grimy factories in the early 2000s, is now nothing but shiny and expensive shit, the shenzhen skyline is arguably more "impressive" than HK (arguably because I guarantee someone will argue with this statement)

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>>22017888
woah, you weren't kidding about that skyline. I'll make a trip to Shenzhen next time I visit friends in HK, that's worth a look just to see for myself how much it's changed. I think constant change is what I miss the most from living in HK, I live in a midsize town in France now and it does get kinda boring seeing the same things all the time.
Wetmarkets and open air slaughter of chickens was all gone by the time I got to HK (well on the island proper in most places), same with hawkers. The city in the 80s and early 90s sounded like absolute kino, especially if you were a white businessman lol

>>22017531
it's not a gay argument. y'all fucking stupid fr

>>22017895
Even after the handover it was cool for a while until they really started cracking down and even with the crackdown it was more death by a thousand cuts rather than a strict point where you can say "it sucked after YYYY/MM/DD"

Ok who am I kidding after kai tak was closed it was all downhill from there

>>22017918
I was there 1997-2007, it was still pretty cool but I guess I have no frame of reference and I was a teen so I didn't have access to everything (although I saw plenty of people my age getting high or drunk at LKF or various beaches). You still live there? What did suck though is that everyone I went to school with was rich as fuck, like HKJC membership rich.

Fuck I miss the food so much, everything is closed after 10 pm here and fucking expensive. I miss going to the sevens, going on those short, easy hikes, getting cheap games at Golden Computer and taking the bus or ferry to random places, eating in weird places in SSP, dipping in and out of shops to get some AC, man I even miss Ocean Park.
Gonna stop because this is devolving into nostalgiaposting, I haven't thought of the city in literal decades.

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>OH HI NAN

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>>22017964
>everything is expensive
You live in France brah, there's Chateau d'Yquem coming out of the "Froid" and DRC La Tache coming out of the "Chaud" and circa-2005 Alizee (pre-tattoos) shows up in an Alpine A110 1300G to drop off unpasteurized dairy products and fresh croissants every morning and then gives your prostate a massage with her tongue, I wouldn't complain about food if I were you

>>22017983
sure, but there's no cheap street food here. Basic produce and food in general is way higher quality than most places because of high regulation but there's nowhere to eat for under 15 euros that isn't a kebab or chicken bowl and very little variety in what food there is, also asian food is shit-tier unless you're in Paris or Marseille. France isn't all it's hyped up to be food-wise imo, you get bored a few years in and have to endure Frenchmen being all chauvin about it despite complaining about everything all the time themselves, it's honestly worse than muh americah in that way.

At least the women are hot for the most part and healthcare is cheap. Alizee looks like shit now though.

>>22017911
This cunt is absolutely insufferable.

>>22018008
The thing is you can live in a low COL area in france and still get high quality supermarket food. Low COL living in the US means you're either growing your own, or you're eating garbage from the local garbage store

And look at the bright side, at least you can go to marsay or paree and get ok asian food. That isn't a thing as you get further to the east. Try looking for the best asian food in germany and if you're lucky you get a teppanyaki-doner restaurant run by an AFD skinhead and his southeast asian war bride

>>22018187
That's fair, I've only ever been a tourist in the USA so I never really knew if the slop thing was exaggerated or not, it's true that I've never had better tomatoes than here and there are cheap farmer's markets everywhere you look. I guess I should be grateful as you say and I can always just travel to a neighbouring country for different food if I want it. I'm just tired of every person around here raving about their food and cafe culture, French people are so up their ass about everything and talk about food too much, it gets on my nerves. I do enjoy that they take their time for meals though, only country I've lived in where you sit down for lunch and talk bullshit until dinner.

>>22013244
You think you're really fucking funny, don't you?

>>22018212
It's a common story. Europeans visiting the High Line and Chelsea Market and then a quick pit stop in San Francisco to do Napa and Sonoma and then concluding "actually, Americans eat very good food!" is the food version of Americans doing a spring break trip to Copenhagen, Amsterdam, and Berlin, and then proclaiming that "no one" in Europe drives or needs a car

>>22018187
>That isn't a thing as you get further to the east.
The further east you go, you end up in the darklands, and your chance of encountering authentic asian food increases.
But there's a catch: it's all nepalese or sri lankan, bcaus of the imported slave workers.