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You know the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Lore, world building, history, genetics, medical charts, futa to male comparisons in anatomy, sperm comparison, all that sorta stuff, all for Futanari. There's images scattered all over the place, we've all seen them here and there, what are your thoughts on this sorta thing?
>>11509799
>Thread was in page 10 by the time that post was made newfren, they get auto-deleted as soon as a board gets enough new threads to push it into deletion

I did not know that actually. At least not as a clear rule on how it worked.
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Do you think a contemporary world with Futanari would have Cum Sample Health Exams in High School like Eye and Hearing tests?
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>>11509922
I'd like to think that a world filled with futas would be more loose with sexuality, so you'd have schools rewarding well performing students with sexual favors from dedicated doms/subs who're hired for that kind of thing, alternatively maybe bad preforming students, especially delinquents are "buck broken" for a lack of better term by dedicated doms that are hired by the police or work with the police so that the arrogance and bad behaviour is removed from them. Maybe some states have units compromised of futa spies and interrogators who wear sexy short gloves and are masters in seduction, espionage and the like. And in futa supremacist states and countries they have state mandated rape ceremonies for boys and girls who graduate to instill futa supremacy in the population with professional state rapists.
I especially like to imagine how casual everyone would be about it, like a doujin where a boy's rape ceremony is approaching and eventually it's revealed that his mild mannered kind milf mom was actually a futa all along and she's gonna be the one breaking him in. Idk, i find the whole thing hot but can't write or draw it
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>>11510045
Lol, you probably read a handmaids tail and think it is hot.

No, I dont think anything secual would become more offical and systematic. Schools wouldnt be testing cock or semen health. There wouldnt be school or work whores for the students.

If futas were real and acted like they do in hentai, you'd probably have a lot chiller men and futas. Futas and men would probably just openly ask for sex and relationships, open or monogamous and men would just be having more sex and sexual validation, making them less hostile. Studies have found that one common factor in terrorism is lack of access to mates.

IF you saw something like community, work or school sex slaves it would be caused by a completely independent factor like poverty, large scale inequality or war.

On a separate note, I imagine futas will be free spirited with using their coxk, anus and mouth for sex but save their pussy for true love because of the cost of children.

Futas probably won't be size queens because of how troublesome a huge cock in the ass is and how easy vaginal orgasms will be with hand and mouth stimulation and their easy access to cock orgasms. They might even personally hate having a huge cock because of how it limits their clothing choices
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>>11510059
>Lol,
>"tail"
>"secual"
Whatever you say esl-kun
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>>11509931
Of course they would. Question is, what happens to the cum after the sample is taken?
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>>11509922
Futas are women that have two X+ chromosomes, the plus makes them stronger, better , smarter. They have an increased size of body , body proportion , as well as much bigger dicks than men (small size around 8 inches, bigger size well around 16 inches) .

WIth all this they also have a strong libido , so much so that it can be detrimental ,they need sex and relief as their bodies over produce hormones and this takes away from their intelligence and mental capacity. Futas can feel pleasure from both their dicks and vaginas. Futas don’t often pair with each other , mostly due to size being too big , their vaginas are smaller then a woman's after all.

Futas will not be of a single mind , they will have different personalities , likes , dislikes , desires etc… Many futa will take the more dominate role with no issue and even more they will be better suited then the old world. While many will want to be the submissive , futas are rarely truly submissive . this applies mostly to everyday life but when it comes to sexual preferences they will be the true dominant. Futas will pair with men , women , polyalmary , casual and more dedicated relationships,

Women with a SIngle X+ chromosome would have groups . All would be smarter than a woman with just a single X chromosome and smarter than all men. Group A would have the increased size and strength of the futa , but also come with the dependency on sexual relief that futas have. This may lead to them seeking futas for happiness but with futas being more dominant when lacking sexual relief The X+ women may end up seeking men to dominate or non X+ women.

While Group B Lack the size and strength but have an increased intelligence compared to even futas! With not needing sexual relief this seems to have allowed this group of women to be a higher station and control more.
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>>11510199
Men have also evolved to a degree. Many scholars believe that men evolved to not become irrelevant. Men with the Y+ chromosome are weaker even then some men , their intelligence isn’t changed but their bodies are slightly sturdier , stretchier and most strangely they produce a variety of pheromones. The pheromones affect those with at least a X+ chromosome exclusively . These pheromones range from having a calming effect, causing aggression (both protective and offensively), elation, and rarely distress. The most prominent of these pheromones seems to be of a sexual nature.

Many believe that Y+ men have this to better help and take care of futas and women the the X+ chromosome. WIth them having relief from their sexual desires they can both be relaxed and more focused. The combination of pheromones and many times difference of men and women allows men Y+ to give highs that many have called other worldly but a bit to quick.

We will continue to study these groups as time goes on. (off the record my boyfriend has been sucking me off for the past 3 hours , this has allowed to be both feel better but also concentrate and finish my thesis.)
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>>11510200
I really want to make this into a fully flushed idea/world . It would be a futa/women dominate world but not with the borderline global slavery and sexual supremacy.

Something that is more close to a real world but with a underlying sexual theme.
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What if human males are treated as a rarity or endangered species. Where human males are legally protected for conservation.
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I came up with this in the Fetish Creativity Discussion General but what do you guys think of the concept of "'semen passthrough' futanari", as I call it?

Its a concept catered to Male-on-Futa-on-Female, ball-less, and optionally temporary futa and means that the girl cannot produce semen on her own. Instead she has a special organ/tube that connects her womb to her dick. She needs the be provided with semen in her womb by a man before she can ejaculate into another girl.
Male on Futa on Female is underrated. It's really hot imaging my cum working it's way through a girl, causing an orgasm, and it ejaculating into another girl. Some sense sharing could compliment nicely.
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A fantasy I enjoy is a world where there are mounted breeding/relief stations built into walls on city blocks, about as frequently as you might find a payphone. These are mandated for futa use only, since their need for relief is immediate and urgent. Technically any man "can" use one if available, but he accepts the risk that if he is using it while a futa in need arrives behind him then she has the legal right to use him as her relief station instead.

This law means that you will frequently see futas waiting around on park benches or against lamp posts, eyes on an empty relief station, waiting for a man to give in to temptation and use it for himself so that anything she does to him immediately after is legally protected.
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>>11509931
>>11510125
All the jocks guzzling futa cum because it has performance enhancing properties (from the chemical futarine), but the effects only become noticeable after reaching saturation (like creatine) so they have to take it each day (fortunately futa have no shortage)
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>>11510286
There have been some variations of this, including futa balls storing or cloning sperm from a man instead of generating their own sperm. Regardless of where she stores it, she'd probably add her own fluids to increase semen volume and keep the sperm alive much longer, allowing her to get multiple shots out of one load from a man instead of running out right away. Threesomes where a futa uses both organs at the same time are underrated.

A common setup for futas in a variety of settings including this would be two futas starting out in a relationship with each other because that's easy, then hunting a man together, and then trying to add a regular female for a foursome.
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>>11510201
Maybe the most dominant futa require a Y chromosome, and so these futa will need a male to impregnate, or just that a child born of a futa's womb inherits more of her traits.
Another futa could do it, but futa tend to be more dominant. Combined with their size, it can get rather rough. Dominating men is easier and their cocks fit more nicely.
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>>11509922
Very entertaining reads all, thoroughly enjoyed each one.

My Idea TLDR: Futas are society's packhorse. Hormonal imbalance make them full of energy, horny, and sterile, burn twice as bright but last half as long.

My idea differs from the common 'futadom' scenario and instead involves making futas the human equivalent of mules, the main takeaway is that they have male+female reproductive systems that work identical to mens or womens, but not reproductively functional. These systems produce a fuck-ton of hormones. Futas, with their double reproductive systems, are effectively caught in the hormonal crossfire of both sets of systems trying to balance out their respective hormonal chemistries. The result is that futas are constantly and completely flooded with a hormonal cocktail that's constantly arousing them. As you can imagine this has consequences, namely:

Enchanced sexual characteristics. Dicks are bigger. Tits are bigger. Large volumes of cum. Simultaneous male/female orgasms.

High energy levels. With a chemical mix closely resembling adrenaline coursing through them they are slow to tire, require little sleep, and generally maintain a high level of activity throughout the day.

Low long-term planning behaviors. Brought on by above points. Hard to be strategically minded when your default primary thought is shoving your dick in/getting a dick shoved in you. This also makes taking over the world to create classic futadom societies extremely unlikely as who the fuck wants to bother with all that when you can just go have a good time with someone right now?

This unfortuantely places such chemical stress on their systems that although futas make up half of the human population at birth, they rarely make it above 40. Their bodies are in a constant war with themselves that continuously escalates until their final years where they often descend into single-minded fuck machines.
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>>11510530
Hmm, I like the sound of that actually, has some good points. Half the population though and can't reproduce? That sounds like a quick road to extinction though?

11510372
Dang that's kinda hot, I'm just imagining letting your fly down in front of a big silicone onahole to try it out only to get jumped by a futa sliding her fat meat under your balls. Or maybe you did it on purpose~

11510394
The boys locker room doesn't go a day without multiple futas using the glory holes at the stalls to give their classmates a boost~

11510286
11510404
Reminds me of how a queen ant starts by storing the sperm of its mates from its single night mating season for years in order to keep making eggs without needing to have sex.
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>>11510542
Gawd damnit I goofed the others.

>>11510372
Dang that's kinda hot, I'm just imagining letting your fly down in front of a big silicone onahole to try it out only to get jumped by a futa sliding her fat meat under your balls. Or maybe you did it on purpose~

>>11510394
The boys locker room doesn't go a day without multiple futas using the glory holes at the stalls to give their classmates a boost~

>>11510286
>>11510404
Reminds me of how a queen ant starts by storing the sperm of its mates from its single night mating season for years in order to keep making eggs without needing to have sex.
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>>11510530
>This unfortuantely places such chemical stress on their systems that although futas make up half of the human population at birth, they rarely make it above 40. Their bodies are in a constant war with themselves that continuously escalates until their final years where they often descend into single-minded fuck machines.

Lol, you just wrote some unintended horror stuff.

Like, if what you were saying is true, futas would need separate schools around puberty just to keep them from raping other teens or keeping them in line so they pay attention and dont jack off when they should be learning algebra. They'd need shock collars so the police coukd nutritalize them in their 30s. A whole program would need to be set up to check on them like the elderly. Cops and emts would be constantly kicking in the doors of futa dens, finding piles of dehydrated futa corpses that wouldnt stop fucking to eat, drink lr sleep.

Lord, its funny imagining some hard baked detective lighting a cigarette telling a reporter "nah, no fowl play here. Dang dames fucked themselves to death. Seen it a 1000 times. They cant get normal partners after 30 because all they want to do is fuck and end up stacking up with other futas. By 35 all they do is want to fuck. By 37 they cant think of anyyhing else and end up loses their jobs. Next thing you know, you got 6 of them in a small apartment on welfare, fucking nonstop. Eventually they csnt even be bothered to order groceries. Days go by, and you end up like this. Oh and dont go in there, room smells like rotting flesh, shit and old condoms. Looks like they'd started just shitting where they stood. Poor gals couldnt even srop to go to the resr room. Real shame. Real shame intend. My son is friends wirh one. Real spunky adorable girl. 12 years old. *sigh* it will be the same thing when she hits 14. 2 years...*sigh*"
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>>11509922
Hope we get futa neko by Elon Musk.
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>>11510201
Ball bra industry
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>>11510410
>Maybe the most dominant futa require a Y chromosome, and so these futa will need a male to impregnate, or just that a child born of a futa's womb inherits more of her traits.
>Another futa could do it, but futa tend to be more dominant. Combined with their size, it can get rather rough. Dominating men is easier and their cocks fit more nicely.

It would be funny if futa pussies are actually a bit smaller and tighter than a normal woman's so they actually dont really like piv sex with other futas, seeking out men and and thr rare slender or small cocked futa wives if they want to stsrt a family.
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>>11510530
To expand, due to their shorter lifespans, vast majority don't pursue university education, instead fufilling many of the low-mid tier jobs society requires that are more in line with their outgoing lifestyles. A large futa worker-class would be clearly visible in any population center. More specialised roles requiring education and experience would lean male/female.

Despite sex with futa being ubiquitious, romantic relationships are still primarily m-f. Futas inherent need for sex means that long term monogomy is deeply incompatible with them. Although, it is very common for most m-f couples to periodically have at least one futa that shares their bed on a regular basis.

>>11510542
I imagine that though futas themselves are sterile, they are effective 'sex facilitators'. Ie. if the presence of futas result in more sex between people generally, then the TFR is going to increase as a by product.

And paradoxically, futas may be the engines of growth that drives up the quality of life for the rest of the population. No dependants/pension/benefits, they may be effective contributors to the system, subsidising the rest. So could be the males and females of this world are living that 50's suburban lifestyle off the back of futa work.

>>11510545
Lol, a unique take, but my view wasn't intentionally that dark. My view being that somewhere around 35 the chemical imbalance is such that behaviors begin to shift into a much, much more extreme 'hoe phase'. Instead of retreating inwards, they venture out, start constantly showing up in nightclubs, college campuses, parties, anywhere where there is the general atmosphere for sex. Some couch surf and shack up with younger futas, some cohabit with a dorm of guys, getting continuously passed round enjoying their best life until their system just crashes, effectively OD'ing on sex or something.
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Did you know: People were jerking it to futa centaur nearly one thousand years before Christ.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1357757

https://www.persee.fr/doc/cchyp_0761-8271_1991_num_15_1_1245

Example worship them as deity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyamakui_no_Kami
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Dick docking and giving birth from pseudo-penis/functional penis
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>>11510553
I imagined a story (but couldn't be bothered to write it) in a setting where futa have domnance disputes like I mentioned. It's focused on a hyper dominant futa who wants to be impregnated but she's never lost a futa dominance struggle, so she secretly finds a man to have sex with. As she's never been penetrated before she's very tight (futa are more durable and so can stretch fairly easy), and though she's dominating the man by riding him she's overcome by the pleasure of sex. She becomes posessive of him, despite men being viewed as low status, and dominates other futa who tease him or try to penetrate him.
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>>11510703
Not a bad idea, like is dominance a cultural thing like a wolf pack of lion pride or is she like head of a biker gang or something? I can see this as some comical moments where she runs into a love at first sight kind of situation with the man of the story and she has to try and its entirely her female genitals taking over her thinking instead of her dick so she has to try and keep up her dominance as leader while also getting all mushy when she sees the man. XD
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>>11510771
I was thinking either medieval fantasy where futa barbarians raid villages and kidnap women, or a futa ceo praying upon a new hire

It's a way of justifying why a futa would be infatuated with a pathetic man / femboy. That he's so submissive it completely disarms her desire to dominate and which ironically makes her see him more like an actual man rather than some sort of rival.

In the first scenario it would be that the futa barbarians kill men who fight them and rape women who try to flee or beg. Grovelling men they may enslave, but the chieftain finds a boy who's so submissive and accepting of his fate that she doesn't know what to do to him. It would hardly be sporting to kill him or rape him. She has the strange urge to protect and embrace him, and when doing so she feels his little dick get hard and so she rides it. Being her first time she moans like crazy and all the other futa think she must really be destroying his bussy since they've never heard her moan like that, and so she keeps him as a concubine while trying to cover up that she's riding his dick

The second scenario would be similar. The futa are hyper competitive in the workplace because they are both trying to compete with the competency of men whilst trying to be more feminine and attractive than the women (allowing sexual favors to be performed on their cocks as a show of ultimate dominance). The CEO just happens to stumble across an interview with a completely pathetic applicant. The manager wasn't going to hire him, but the CEO says to hire him in whatever position he'll do the least harm. While she's knocked up plenty of women with her kids (often she does this to women who aren't performing well enough and she'd rather pay child support than have them slow down her workplace), she never had a child of her own. She's intrigued by him as his utter lack of ambition, and thinks it will serve her needs well. As she's always working she never finds the sort of man to be a house husband
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>>11510646
It can be a bit hard to justify but there are options, the most distinct issue is the testicular womb specifically, but there is sufficient precedent in nature for everything else.

In this scenario, futanari would occur most likely as mutatution in female development, but be otherwise genetically identical to normal women.
Something which promotes both a womb and a penis for reproductive purposes identical to a vagina, with an accordingly larger shaft to facilitate the birth canal. With ovaries in place of testicals in the scrotum, and likely a fused taint.
The path towards testicular hyper development likely starts with a secondary mutation in true hermaphroditic gametes egg-sperm that can function in either role when exposed to the right stimuli. If one of these eggsperm are at all successfully gestated with a gamete that has the pseudo-penis mutation, it could promote the development of an entirely secondary reproductive system, a fully funtioning penis and womb in one true hermaphrodite body, or true futanari.
If a true futanari is able to again successfully gestate with any given eggsperm further mutation is encouraged, creating fully redundant gametes that each have a dedicated gestation chamber, finally allowing for hermaphroditic wombs housed in the scrotum, likely with an additional layer of fat for sctrutural stability, and ensuring access to necessary resources for those in development.

Congratulations, you may now, breed her balls.
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>>11510997
They just need to figure out what causes spotted hyenas to grow psydodicks and add that to human DNA.

Though admittedly the results may be upsetting. There is a good chance it would produce women that look like big tall men and not simply tall beautiful women with cock like clits.

Given that we are not sexually attracted to spotted hyenas, we have no idea if male hyenas perceive them as being tall feminie or manish.

If large clit growth in humans is any indication, such as steroid users, it will make rhe women manish. Muscular, square jaws, big shoulders, low voice, etc
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>>11510544
I like the thought of semen-passthrough futas (or SP futa) acting as magical enchanters of seed before it impregnates the female.
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>>11509922
All the worldbuilders on here seem to be wildly vascillating between "WBing I think is hot", and "WBing I think is plausible/literarily interesting.", for the record, I'm mainly going with the latter.

Ignoring the genetics for a moment, (as I wrote about it extensively in the other thread), I think a lot of the worldbuilding here revolves around gender-roles, and how Futas would be integrated into normal society. This raises a pretty basic question: Have futas always been there, or did they arrive on the scene some time after gender-roles were already established? If the former, then we'd basically need to rework human history from the ground-up, and in the latter, then we'd need to establish a point of demarcation.

Leaning into the former: The main reason why sex-based social roles developed is the centrality of pregnancy, and breastfeeding, in determining who can do what jobs. It's pretty difficult to go out hunting when you have a kid in your belly, or strapped to your chest. Another reason is that Biological Males (which I am here defining as anyone who has been through a testosterone-driven puberty), are on average taller, and more muscular than other humans.

If we assume that Futas have similar experiences re: pregnancy, and nursing to IRL females, then they would likely have developed very similar gender roles in various societies. I definitely wouldn't go so far as to say they'd just be "considered female", though, because the rise of patrilineality brought with it the need to police, and regulate who women fucked, in order to ensure paternity, and part of accomplishing that is sex-based segregation, which would necessarily be a three-way split in a society where some can both impregnate, and become pregnant.
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>>11511272
Indeed, all questions of lineality, and locality become much more complex, when one acknowledges that some people can be both a biological mother, and a biological father. Some societies would likely deal with this by forcing futas to choose a single role in life, either living with men and fucking women, or living with women and fucking men. Others would force futas to only marry other futas. Others would develop elaborate priestly castes. Indeed, questions of monogamy vs. polygyny vs. polyandry become infinitely more complex.

I think I have a solution, though, and it's rooted in biological worldbuilding. In the last thread, I said:
>make it so that Futas are ordinarily incapable of producing sperm, but gain that ability, if they take testosterone capsules for a while, and may-or-may-not lose it, if they stop taking them, analogous to how in the real-world, trans women may or may not become infertile after they start HRT.
I can tweak this, to solve our problem. IRL cis women only produce estrogen as a consequence of their menstrual cycle, and that cycle can cease happening for any number of reasons. When this occurs, estrogen production largely stops, resulting in either menopause, or a quasi-menopausal state. In addition, an adult human who has already gone through puberty needs a continuous supply of either testosterone or estrogen to remain healthy.
Therefore, I submit: Every futa goes through a female puberty. They *only* become capable of producing semen, if they have already completed female puberty, *and then* stop menstruating for a period of about a year, after which their body starts producing testosterone to make up the difference. This usually only lasts a few weeks/months, until the menstrual cycle kicks back in, and rarely if ever results in them developing male hair/fat/muscle distribution, or in their voice breaking, but they can remain fertile for an indefinite period afterwards.
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>>11511275
Therefore futa were historically assigned different roles, depending on whether they've ever stopped menstruating for an extended period, without pregnancy to explain it, which happens to a sizeable minority of them. Those who haven't are treated as just women, whereas those that have, have different social roles.
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>>11511272
I used to write a lot of actual world-building (about 6 years ago), but people often didn't find it as interesting as scenarios set in a world mostly like this one just with futa.

One setting I had was that around the time of British colonialism they discovered an island in the Pacific of dark-skinned giantess futa (from Polynesians) who had developed 'island gigantism' as well as a being hermaphroditic, and the hermaphroditism had some unique quirks to it that would prevent inbreeding (so despite being a small population, they weren't deformed).
The result was that gender roles weren't too different, as they had long since been establish, and the futa were first used as slaves as despite being physically imposing they had lost all technology due to their hyper-sexualised nature. They were often castrated to pacify them, meaning the majority descended from male fathers rather than futa fathers, and even into the modern it was mandatory to circumcise them to inhibit their libidos.

I had a lot of random one offs that I can't really remember. (I'd write a short settings and then the outline of a story in that setting. Must have had 100+) This >>11510646 reminds me of one where there was a designated breeding futa who would breed with a sort of eldritch being that birthed all the futa (sacrificing her in the process as she is absorbed by the vagina entity). The would have futa raised from childhood to be the sacrifice which involved various testicle expansion procedures. Then, on the night of the sacrifice, all the futa in the village would fuck her dick hole to contribute their seed to her balls, at which point she is carried up into the cave where their mother entity exists and they have sex with it to birth all the offspring for the village.
I remember expanding on this one a fair bit, as there was different factions due to different races having their own mother entity and killing it in order to genocide the weaker races.
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>>11510542
>>11510569
>That sounds like a quick road to extinction though?
It would work better than you'd expect. In addition to the other points, futas would be doing most of the high risk jobs (other than hunting, which men would still do since these futas can't concentrate well enough) and serving as bodyguards and nurses. This would reduce stone age mortality among females and children. Futas would be the disposable cannon fodder and females would be heavily protected.

In addition to futas instigating and facilitating sex itself, futas would enforce the female role as breeders, mostly culturally but also physically. Females would never get equal rights, but they would get worshipped as fertility goddesses. There's also the possibility of having more females than males in the population.

The "engines of growth" part is correct. The futa simp economy would involve futas getting worked like mules to pay for sex and related things. In a hunter-gatherer society futas would be highly motivated to gather food, firewood, tools, etc. to trade for sex. In a modern society, they'd be paying for everything, and always desperate to earn a quick buck for tonight's trip to the brothel.

For ODing on sex, heart attacks would be a logical way to finish them off, which lets you have the detective scene while also having a pretty humane situation.
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For roles in a society where futas always existed, numbers and fertility mechanisms are decisive factors. Assuming standard futas that simply have both sets of organs, at 50%+ futas and 25% or fewer men, futas are numerous enough to fight wars and run the economy. Men can get unlimited sex and all expenses paid by cooperating with the futas. Those who refuse will be heavily outnumbered. Paternity becomes an unsolvable clusterfuck because too many futas will be promiscuous with their pussies. If futas are the military and economic workhorses, it becomes necessary to use maternal lineage because you know whose womb it was. Unlike real life females, such futas would have incentives and responsibilities similar to those of men, so most of the structures of society wouldn't change that much, except there'd be lots of harems and polygamy.

Smaller numbers of futas could produce very different results. If futas don't outnumber men, men will remain the military force and futas will usually have female-like roles, with individual exceptions. Different cultures would have different ideas on whether to give futas vasectomies or castrations like the island scenario to prevent conflicts over paternity, or to segregate them from females (which females might want to prevent rape), or to have clan-wide inheritance with successors handpicked according to merit, matrilineality, or some other system. A critical tipping point is where futas are numerous enough to force society to accept their shameless lewdness instead of suppressing it with real-world-like standards.
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Men have all the mana
Futas calculate and control the flow
Females manifest the magic.
Bing bang boom instant powersystem and world building. Applause please
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>>11511393
That works.
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>>11511393
My initial thought is that there is some sort of soul magic where futa capture men and milk them for their seed (anally) which they then use to inseminate women and draw various sigils on her body which causes the infants soul to become decoupled from the fetus which they can then use for various magical enchantments.
They use infant souls because they are malleable, meaning they are basically mothering them into serving their purpose. An adult soul, even if it could be captured, has too much ego and would resist conversion.
The infants body becomes a husk which they use as servants, or maybe the futa are the result of these husks as you had them combining husks into a perfect vessel for them to move their own soul into.

So maybe it isn't that futa control the flow, but rather they embody the magical properties of men and women to best use mana. Maybe the magic system is that men have the soul (soul is stored in the balls) which is what mana manifestation is bound to while women have the body (which is the thing that controls mana). Perhaps the husks themselves are what enchanted items are made from, or rather they don't detach the soul (outside of using it for powerful spells which would consume it in the process) but use sigils to make women birth magical artifacts or soulstones which can be embedded into things to give them magical properties. Imagine medieval-fantasy Scorn.
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>>11511389
>Paternity becomes an unsolvable clusterfuck because too many futas will be promiscuous with their pussies. If futas are the military and economic workhorses, it becomes necessary to use maternal lineage because you know whose womb it was.
I thought the futa were sterile? Can they even have kids? If they can, then I'd actually think this world would be even more into patrilineal lineage than we are as a direct result of that increased uncertainty. Think of all the shit medieval societies baked into their cultural systems to try and ensure that the father was in fact the father. Prior to genetic testing, you just didn't know for sure so if I'm having kids, I want to be absolutely fucking certain that they're my kids.

Could be any futa that get pregnant are required to stay with the guy who knocked them up until birth, otherwise intense social stigma kicks in.
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a second set of adrenal glands on the overies and on testicles sovles a lot of problums.

sperm production slows down in pregency as the hormone that triggers. the production of milk lowers but not out right stops it from happening .
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>>11509922
What if Earth (Terra) hosted an advanced, intelligent futanari elf species that emerged from pseudo-synapsid-like primates/bandicoots during the late Jurassic to mid-Cretaceous periods and established early civilizations in the Paleogene period? How would the remaining domestic/wild dinosaurs, pterosaurs, three types of crocodiles (a herbivorous species, a bipedal carnivorous species originally from Korea that diversified through divergent evolution, and a flying relative that convergently evolved from a Terrestrisuchus-like ancestor), marine reptiles, giant amphibian-like waterhorses (kelpies), and non-archosaur reptiles, among others, adapt to their new dominant species?
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>>11511448
Not exactly what I had in mind
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I can see Futanari keeping men around as a source of genes. Like in order to keep genetic diseases down futas occasionally have to mingle with human males to keep their offspring's genetics' diverse.
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>>11511272
>All the worldbuilders on here seem to be wildly vascillating between "WBing I think is hot", and "WBing I think is plausible/literarily interesting.", for the record, I'm mainly going with the latter.

The second is more interesting. If people just want to woeld build sruff they find hot, they can go to a dozen other futa threads.
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>>11511779
I do think the idea of futas as separate species is also interesting option.
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>>11511804
And on the other end, prominent futa-lead families giving away their sons to other families to impregnate their futa over and over until they get a high-quality futa offspring to be the next head of family. It's a full time position (which is why the futa don't do it) as only one male is used for each generation to make it easier to keep track of the genetic line.

>>11511801
What? You don't like the idea of futa being grown and molded from soulless husks to be the perfect vessel for witches/warlocks?
They can't change their own body as the psyche gets damaged by the transmutation process which always ends up warping the body. So any flesh manipulation magic must be done on a husk, and husks are easiest to make from unborn children (and their souls most pure for other purposes).
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One of you keeps coming up with interesring horror premises and doesnt even know
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>>11511886
To the contrary, any interaction with a real person is the scariest concept I can think of.
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>>11511448
>>11511848
To expand more on the magic system, sticking loosely to the original concept:
>Men have all the mana
>Female manifest the magic
It would be a sort of divine magic where the masculine and the feminine are both aspects of the god which created the land. The soul of god is masculine while the body is feminine - the sky father and the earth mother. It was a fragment of the gods body which created the land, and his soul/seed created the life in that land.
Thus it is that balls produce souls/mana while the feminine body is capable of shaping that into a new being. It was never intended to be used for magic, but naturally mankind figured out that the mana in cum had effects beyond just reproduction.
At first it was used in druidic practices. With land being the body of a god it absorbed mana rather well. Farming was enhanced by shooting loads on plants, because the will of the plant is to grow giving it access to mana sped up that process. The process could then be manipulated by women, letting them impart their own will due to their capacity to manifest new life within them. It was eventually realised that they could use will themselves to change to transform things outright if enough mana and will was applied (requiring multiple women all in sync). It was at this point that it began to be prohibited.
Humanity wasn't without guidance. There were futa angels which were capable of this sort of magic. It was believed at first they were divine, but upon realising it was their hermaphroditic nature (they just don't need to cum to access their mana), humanity began to doubt their god. Covens of witches began to form and expand upon their uses of magic in secret. It was at this time that they discovered they could use pure materials siphon mana and will. Sigils were made from metals which were imparted with will to manifest potent effects. Using these symbols resulted in a tulpa-like effect due to people believing in the meaning of these sigils.
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>>11511942
These metal sigils were first used to create simple enchantments, e.g. altering friction, durability, temperature, mass of objects, or speed. They were very mana hungry and required a lot of focus from the user to work. For example, manifesting a fireball from a wand created in this method was basically the absolute peak. Although, sigils became more powerful as they became more common, and their effects become more varied.
It had been used to heal things for a long time, because the emotion of pain imparted a lot of will which allowed wounds to be healed rapidly when used in conjunction with sigils to concentrate the mana, but it eventually was used to transform animals. This was how human futa were first created, although they weren't fully human. Covens were able to manifest enough will onto an animal in order to merge a male animal with a willing woman. Failures were common, creating 'demons' where the beast and woman's soul merged. These were still beneficial though, as the goal of the coven was to destroy the angel and these demons still held the woman's will which made them blindly hate the angels, so they'd often kill at least one angel. Successes, women who dominated the beast's mind, were far more potent. Eventually they managed to defeat the angels entirely due to these beastfuta sorceresses.
After angels were defeated the covens began to turn on each other. There was a power struggle, and so they began even more inhumane practices. The result was the fetus soul manipulation, the ultimate form of magic. The enchantments made through fetus souls were much more powerful because they could be raised to impart will themselves - a staff that thinks it is a staff and translates commands into potent magical effects. Then, obviously, their bodies created the aforementioned husks which could be used to create pure futa vessels (I think they would transfer their brains to them rather than their souls).
The irony is that they end up resembling the angels.
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>>11511825
Sliver pube be nice
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I find it most interesting to imagine futas existing in a world that’s mostly the same as our own and making up a very small fraction of the population, like one in several thousand. Their libido is so high that only another futa can truly keep up with them, but finding others is difficult because they’re so rare, so major cities host futa conventions where futanari have the opportunity to meet and have unrestrained sex in special rooms where they can be as messy as they want for days on end.

For futas that are especially productive, as in needing to cum gallons every day just so their balls don’t get too full, there are services they can sign up for that will pick up their inflated condoms and dispose of their cum safely. There are special condoms and masturbation aids marketed to futas specifically.

Particularly well-endowed futas wear special insulated girdles in the winter to stop their dicks from getting cold as they’re too big to fit inside pants. Some also wear a kind of day condom to catch any pre they might inadvertently leak in the course of the day. They get aroused really easily and won’t lose an erection for hours unless they cum several times, so seeing a futa walking around in public with an erection that’s too big to hide is considered fairly normal and doesn’t raise many eyebrows.

Some futas have aphrodisiac properties in their cum, and they can produce aphrodisiac milk under the right conditions (futas generally have much bigger breasts than normal women, some continuously lactate independently of pregnancy). Depending on the individual, the effects can be incredibly potent. Sale of these substances is illegal because of unpredictable effects and the risk of unethical means being used to obtain them, but many futas sell them illegally online.

I’ve also got a 1.5k-word fact file on futa biology I can link if people are interested. I love speculating about this kind of thing but it can be hard to come up with interesting ideas.
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>>11511825
That is understandable.
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>>11509922
>Futa world building.
Ok let me give this a try.

From what i've seen so far the most common ideas here and the previous thread are either a) Futas dominating everything, taking all the girls and femininizing/exterminating men
b) Futas are an integral part of the society and even in reproduction in some way and all 3 genders live in harmony or atleast close to it.

I want to create something different.
I prefer FutaxFuta so i think it would be better if Futas had their own kingdom (in fantasy) or a civilization (in scifi) completely seperate from men and women. an artificial evolution of human brought forth through magic or scifi tech ( depends on the setting)

>wouldn't that be essentially a feminist/woman only world/society?

That's where the second spin to this comes in.

In my world/ idea/whatever, Futas aren't Women with Dicks but instead MEN with wombs. They are an artificial evolution of the male sex being able to reproduce without women.
>They are XY
>their sperm has Y exclusively
>Their eggs have X exclusively in order for the baby to be XY
>Their Brain and their mind/psychology are the same as men's
>Their body is the same as a woman's aside from the dick and elf ears (so you can know who's a futa without having to check their pants/skirt)
>physical stats being the same as men on average (due to magic or gene editing), same for height
>They use He/Him, male names and consider themselves men
>Wardrobe is more gender neutral, futa can have a preference for what's considered masculine or Feminine attire
>Futa can have more masculine or feminine interest and roles. There are both Houswives and bread winners, even harems are still a thing.

Essentially Futas are a bunch of straight men that date and fuck eachother, or gay with extra steps. They took the 2 parts of women they care about ( the ability to give birth and the female form they are attracted to) and they took them for themselves.
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>>11509922
>>11512311
2
As i wrote above. They took the 2 good aspects of women without having their bad aspects whitch was the female mind and their chaotic nature whitch destroys civilization or something.

As you can guess the culture of the futa civilization/kingdom (depends if we are going sci-fi or fantasy) is very misogynistic so instead of a feminist utopia it's actually the opposite, a very extensive and convoluted version of M.G.T.O.W, a male only society that can also naturally reproduce.
It was founded by a bunch of perverted and misogynist men that wanted to create a civilization/kingdom without the civilizational ball and chain that are women. Their conversion into the first Futanari and later their coupling was the start of what would create their society like 500 years ago. Their ideology and creed of male seperatism and liberation from women are now the cultural default views of the vast majority of futanari.

Imagine a stereotypical ara ara mommy wearing a beautiful dress that she may or may not have designed herself and who's interests are reading, cooking, gardening and whom has given birth to 3 children but spews the most misogynistic opinions you've ever heard.

To further elaborate on that futanari have both masculine and feminine interests and are free to take any role they want.

The reasons for that is that since futanari consider themselves the next step of huMANITY they believe they are free to embody all aspects of it, regardless of gender.
Second reason is that taking up interest and excelling in what are viewed as traditionally female interests and roles is nothing but another way to show their superiority and triumph over the female sex.
In this society everyone can do both roles so it's a matter of preference/personality on what role and sexual strategy they choose.
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>>11509922
>>11512311
>>11512317
3/final

There are 2 types of Futa. Natural and converted.

>Natural
>born from 2 futa parents
>typically prefer more masculine interests, fashion and roles but it's not always the case the split between masculine/ feminine is 60%/40%

>Artificial/Converted
>created through magic/ sci fi tech
>they are men who have gone through the futanari conversion process
>they are often more misogynistic than their natural counterparts
>at the same time they are usually more feminine on average, prefering a more feminine wardrobe, feminine interests and are more likely to be the child bearers and stay at home wives than natural futa but again it's not always the case.
>the split between masculine / feminine is 30%/70%

The reason for why former men futa might be more likely to be feminine is for various reasons

>their new body looks like a woman so a more feminine role might feel more natural for it
>they now have the freedom to explore pathways they couldn't explore before so they decide to experiment with it
>they might consider it easier
>they might have viewed the male role unfair and decide to try the female role.

There are cases were a man didn't have reproductive success before because he was viewed as too submissive or weak now as a futa has reproductive and sexual success through the female sexual path.

This was added for those that are into futa dom and male feminization. In a way this dynamic also exists even in this futa only society. Submissive men can turn into submissive futa that are part of a harem for a dom natural futa or something.
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>>11511505
>sterile
The first post is about anon's scenario with sterile futas, and the second is unrelated and about standard futas that have both sets of fertile organs. Therefore the two scenarios work in different ways.

Medieval societies had to go so far to ensure lineage because everything was hereditary to prevent succession disputes. Other eras in history had their own dynamics. Ancient Rome had a practice of adopting heirs (Caesar and Augustus being prominent examples). Some men in the modern world prefer to avoid responsibility.

Patrilineal inheritance becomes unnecessary if you have fertile futas who are so numerous that they run everything and succession issues are about who succeeds powerful futas. Past a certain point, men can live off the futas and not need to be held responsible for whatever bastards get born. Of course an individual man could insist that his wife makes sure the baby is his, but that becomes a private matter instead of a governmental necessity.

>>11511848
A futa-lead society would treat their sons as tradable sex objects like that.
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>>11512325
This setup makes sense too. There'd be cities near the border of the futa kingdom where men who don't convert go to hire futa hookers or look for futas to date (most often with natural futas). Women would go berserk with rage over the existence of the futa kingdom, and piss everyone off even more, causing more men to join or become customers of the futas. Non-futa lands would descend into barbarism and chaos.
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When a man and a woman have sex they make a futa. Woman x futa = woman, futa x man = man. Discuss.
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>>11512439
That's much to reductive of a system to reliably diversify genders. If futa are compstible among themselves the entire spieces becomes futas. If they aren't the spiecies goes extinct without incredibly deliberate efforts to maintain the sexual cycle.
The system won't destroy itself if MxF=W and WxF=M, more like in nature where its a response to the reproductive stimuli of the lack of the true opposite sex.
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>>11512311
>Essentially Futas are a bunch of straight men that date and fuck eachother, or gay with extra steps. They took the 2 parts of women they care about ( the ability to give birth and the female form they are attracted to) and they took them for themselves.

Doubtful. Sure, fantasizing that is essentially the place they play, along with gender swapped mtf.

But if they were real, if they are beutiful, they will probably be something in-between a man and woman. More assertive since they can avoid pregnancy and have stronger bones and muscles but not as strong as larger men. If their testicals flood their bodies wirh Test and their DNA doesnt have some way to ignore its impact on sexual development, they'll be jacked butch men with a vagina under their balls.

Which begs a question, if futa DNA has a way to suppress male gender characteristics and only uses it for cock and testical growth, sex drive, bone and muscle density, etc while keeping the body beutiful, WOULD this slowly make men beautiful as the futa DNA is slowly introduced to xy men?

That could produce some interesting story ideas. Like futa sons ans grand sons being frustrated how unmasculine they are well into puberty, only to be really hot in their late 20s when their more masculine features start to appear. Or futa sons thar try to compensate by getting really jacked. So they are beutiful until they take off their shirts.

There are also interesting implications if it is a fantasy story. Like elves being feminie and beutiful because some of them are futanari. Same for demons, explaining why so many of the noble men are ageless and beutiful. The X chromsome of the futa is made for suppressing most masculine expression beyond thoae thar provide rhe signature fura byild.
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>>11511779
They would given race name, Aelonar (Elves) — Synapsid Arboreal Sapients
Origin: Late Jurassic pseudo‑synapsids

Traits: hermaphroditic, arboreal, bioluminescent skin, long lifespan

Technology: copper to bronze, organic engineering

Culture: canopy cities, ecological stewardship, philosophy of memory

Range: global, with subspecies on every continent

Status: dominant civilization
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>>11510045
>state mandated rape ceremonies for boys and girls who graduate to instill futa supremacy in the population with professional state rapists.
Rather than it being something official, I find it hotter if hierarchies were enforced by the cultural norms of everyday people (similar to Japan).

Imagine it being the norm for gangs of schoolgirls to bully small dicked geekbois, so that they always know their place is at the bottom of the social ladder (similar to how female Bonobos form close alliances with each other to go after individual males who get out of line). Pic related: After school, a geekboi gets ambushed by a schoolgirl gang and gets held down while the bullies bring in a futa senpai to "buck break" him. Through this, the geekboi learns that he isn't worthy of having sex with girls. Rather, his lot in life is to submissively serve futas.
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>>11512573
>The X chromsome of the futa is made for suppressing most masculine gbuild. expressions beyond those that provide the signature futa build.

I mean

I could see their being a whole story where a prince falls in love with an elf or demon and the king forbids it and it is later revealed why: their sons would be increasingly feminie and beutiful. The king would see that as weak and putting the throne at risk
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>>11512419
>Women would go berserk with rage over the existence of the futa kingdom, and piss everyone off even more, causing more men to join or become customers of the futas.

Yep essentially this is a parody porn world so i wanted it to be comedic,
It's funny to think that women's greatest enemy is something that looks like them.
Tho i don't think it would be "Beserk rage" more like increasing nagging, rage from inferiority complex stuff like that. It would make them annoying either way and lead to more men trying out the Futa route.

As for your idea of men and Futa dating.
The way i think of it. The vast majority of couples are FutaxFuta but there would be enough equivalent Futas that are Bi or Gay like how many men are gay or bi in a population that this might occur, they might be viewed as a slightly weird anomaly but most Futa would just shrug. Tho the children born from these couples would just be Futa most of the time.

Now FutaxFemale is more interesting.
Since the whole point of the Futa only state/kingdom whatever was to get away from women in the first place as you can guess a futa dating a woman would be viewed with disgust and hate especially from artificial/Converted/former male futa. That's why it's a very VERY rare phenomenon and when it happens it only basically happens with natural futa.
If a Futa is found coupling with a woman both of them are to be executed or exiled.
Children from that relationship will usually be either Futa or Female.
Women turning into Futa is impossible since the magic / sci-fi bullcrap needs for the target to have XY chromosomes.
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>>11511779
How about futa aliens that invade and conquer Earth?
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>>11512593
>How about futa aliens that invade and conquer Earth?

If they fix the environment and government, they can lay eggs in my bowels

Well assuming the eggs slide out easily and dont burst through my skin
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>>11512573
>>11512581

>Doubtful. Sure, fantasizing that is essentially the place they play, along with gender swapped mtf.

Futanari in my setting are biologically male they have XY chromosomes so it can't be classified as true MTF since they only appear as women.
They basically use that and that their brain being male as their belief that they are still male on a technicality. Now if it's cope or not is up to audience interpretation.

>If their testicals flood their bodies wirh Test and their DNA doesnt have some way to ignore its impact on sexual development, they'll be jacked butch men with a vagina under their balls.

That's the interesting part. You see the DNA of the Futa essential focuses male development only for the genetalia. It's a mutation of the SRY gene found in the Y chromosome leaving the rest of the body to develop as female (for pregnancy to occur etc) so while the body has the same hormone levels as a woman but with slightly higher levels of testosterone (but still on the normal range) for healthy womb environment, pregnancy, etc, 2 areas of the body. The brain and the nervous system and the balls/male genitals have a sort of biological filtration and regulation system that allows for only male level of hormones localized in those areas so that Futa have healthy sperm production and male sex drive and mind. As for strength etc. I had the idea they have denser muscles and stronger bones or something it's magic/scifi don't think too much about it. They are as strong and tall as men on average despite their appearance.
>Elf/Demon
They are the setting's equivalent of elves only mono gendered. They have elf like ears so they can be identified as different from women from a glance without having to look what they are packing downstairs.

As for your idea, the king would be even more justified because malexFuta pairing only results in Futa children or an abortion/infantcide (no self respecting futanari would give birth to or raise a daughter)
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>>11512622
>As for your idea, the king would be even more justified because malexFuta pairing only results in Futa children or an abortion/infantcide (no self respecting futanari would give birth to or raise a daughter)

Eh, it would be funny if daughters were looked at like handicapped people. Not funny for the individual. Just funny in a world building way.

Like it would be a revelation if they ever left the country and found out that most women dont have dicks and no one cares that they weren't born with one
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>>11512621
If they're advanced enough to fix pur nightmarish system of goverments, they're probably advanced enough to set you up with a proper rectal breeding sack.
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>>11512621
Completely unobtrusive, because even if they fuck women they still put their eggs in her ass. So she could still have regular pregnancy.
Maybe a little constipation, but the government could never do something with so few downsides.
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Holy shit just read Tales of Varenthal already it's got the best futa worldbuilding I've ever seen.
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>>11512588
>Yep essentially this is a parody porn world so i wanted it to be comedic,
>It's funny to think that women's greatest enemy is something that looks like them.
The funniest part is how their greatest enemy isn't futas, it's themselves. If they had just behaved reasonably in the first place, they could've avoided all the trouble.

>Women turning into Futa is impossible since the magic / sci-fi bullcrap needs for the target to have XY chromosomes.
This is also comedic since the setting implies it's possible to create another magic/tech to turn regular females into futas, but the females will just complain that men aren't doing it for them instead of researching magic themselves.

>basically happens with natural futa. If a Futa is found coupling with a woman both of them are to be executed or exiled.
Makes sense for some natural futas to be into it, and for a strict ban within the kingdom, so the most likely case is when a natural futa goes traveling around the world and finds females in the barbarian lands. Businessmen could also get an advantage by converting and going back and forth between the different lands.
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>>11512816
Games should include big strong lady
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>>11512816
Did it got deleted?
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>>11512593
Enslave them for scientific purposes?
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For some reason I have an idea for futanari that let you freely examine their naked bodies for art and science. They'll even show off how they ejaculate.
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>>11510286
If you add balls, it results in a futa that ejaculates out both ends, with some coming out of the dick but some goes into her own womb with possible self-impregnation. which they can't help doing.
if she has another person's sperm like this >>11510404 it can result in someone self-inseminating with someone else's genetic material.
Impregnate her womb, have one kid. Impregnate her balls, she has that person's kids forever.
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>>11509922
I guess I could try thinking something up
Although just about every futa dick nowadays has external balls and is completely separate from the pussy (if they bother to draw one), I think making the dick grow where the clit normally is and having the gonads remain where they usually are makes more sense (In this world futas are just women with a genetic mutation)
I think it'd be more fun if instead of futas being outright better or worse than the other sexes, they're just more polarized, a futa (compared to a male) is more likely to be a supergenuis, an Olympian level athlete, or have titanic 12 inch bitchbreaker than a male, and inversely is more likely to be a total Neanderthal, or have a micropenis, etc.
Futas are excessively competitive, prideful, and lustful, and as such are quick to humiliate and sexually dominate someone they see as "lesser" (they are also easy to humiliate and dominate if they have some embarrassing shortcoming)
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>>11512415
>A futa-lead society would treat their sons as tradable sex objects like that.
The best quality sons are traded, while the rest are just used as the servants in their own household.

>>11512580
Why would they do him missionary?
He's just asking to be reverse piledrivered in that position
>Taunted by the view of an ass and pussy he'll never get to feel
>Her fat nuts slamming into his, smothering his entire package
>Sees her nuts clenching as they pump seed inside him
>She 'squirts' from her pussy all over his face
That's how it should go

It would be funny in that sort of setting if they could test for boys being sufficiently conditioned by them being aroused by phallic objects. Like they'll get an erection when eating a hotdog or banana.
>Boy surrounded by futa bullies in the cafeteria
>"Hey, anon-kun, you hungry?"
>They are all holding corndogs to their crotch and shoving them in his face
>For a moment he opens his mouth and sticks his tongue out
>A conditioned response
>Snaps out of it, acting all flustered
>They laugh and point out he has a boner
Eventually boys can't get off unless they are sucking something (even if it's just a lollipop).

>>11513485
That image reminds me of one of the random settings I had where nuns were receptacles for demonic corruption. They would purify people by taking the corruption onto themselves, making their bodies hyper sexualised and having big demonic cocks beneath their habits.
So it was ironic that the most pure of heart had the most corrupted bodies.
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>>11513522
Maybe I'm getting outside the realm of worldbuilding, but I do like the idea of futa just being so casual about all the sex they have they they'll just be on their phone while people are lined up to have their turn
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Most futas would still be bottoms, simply because they get the combined pleasure of regular vaginal sex PLUS the benefits of having a prostate to pound while that's happening.
Frankly, they're made for reach-arounds while being stuffed
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>>11509922
>I did not know that actually. At least not as a clear rule on how it worked.
That's how the site works: Alongside an image limit per thread there is the so-called "bump limit",
whereupon reaching it a thread just wanders down the pages 'til it falls off the last page.
It used to mean immediate deletion; nowadays there's a brief archival period before deletion.
The last page is usually page 10; but you occasionally see a page 11.
The page limit is also colloquially referred to as "auto sage", as it's as though
each post has the sage option enabled, which inhibits a thread from being bumped.

Anyway, I'm here for futa study, not site plumbing discussions.
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I like it when futas are so virile they single-handedly cause demographic shifts.
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>>11513826
Are there more images like this from the same person?
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>>11513524
>sample
>850x756
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>>11514068
>jpg
The original was a 10mb png.
I considered turning it into a jpg. But I figured it may as well just be the sample if I am going to reduce the quality.
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=11085660&tags=erovsaaaka+reverse%2A

I was going to link the original, but the stupid Aus age verification shit meant I had to turn back on my VPN, and then turn it off to post on 4chan and I couldn't be bothered.

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