I do it specifically to attack people's mental health

>>43548433
if you say "man" or "woman", people will argue that pooners are men or trannies are women or maybe claim they thought you meant that...
they can't argue against afab/amab lang

>>43548433
I use it because cis men and trans men feel different but also trans women are more like cis men in some ways. I find afab/amab to be the best language to express this idea that people have similarities along their birth sex regardless of gender identity

>>43548433
I've begun using arab for men: assigned rapist at birth.

>>43548433
Is there any way to refer to one’s genomic sex without hurting your feelings OP

>>43548670
We have to both:
Always center the thoughts and feelings of trannies in all situations
and
Pretend they don't actually exist as a category

>>43548433
sex essentialism is alive and breathing meanwhile gender essentialism is dead

>>43548670
male and female

>>43548433
It used to be satire of insane tumblr users but tourists started using it in earnest

>>43548722
That’s like the worst one because fully/mostly transitioned people consider themselves moreso to be their trans sex, which makes sense

>>43548722
How is that any better? I think afab/amab are more accommodating since it only identifies birth sex instead of current sex.

>>43548732
in actuality its induced hermaphroditic characteristics, or female secondary sex characteristics on a male body, or male secondary characteristics on a female body. id say that biological gender is more concerned with primary sex characteristics and the state of your body originally. its dumb but i dont make the rules
>>43548780
its effectively used in the same way by a large swathe of people. you would be considered a male woman but to people like me that means jack shit. to others it means the world though. the main issue is sex essentialism

>>43548724
>It used to be satire of insane tumblr users but tourists started using it in earnest
You did this

>>43548433
>everyone
it's literally just pooners

>>43548883
The rules are largely arbitrary and “male woman” is extremely unpalatable both to most trans women and the ignorant public

>>43548780
There are amab xx people and afab xy people..it makes no sense unless to use afab = female and amab = male

>>43549126
well im not about preserving trans optics. people think tgirls are low down dirty disgustin shitstinkin males, and when "agab" is brought into situations its usually to say that but politely

>>43548724
People forget te orgins of many things. Like I was here on 4chan when "free bleeding" was invented but now everyone thinks its some feminist invention.. I was right there, I saw it being invented to mock women

>>43549175
It mocks transgenders if anything
Literally not a win

>>43548433
Because transphobia and also fake-transitioning (trending, fetishisation etc) operates on groups according to agab and not on their anctual identity, because people who hate queers don’t want to respect their identities. You have to address it in this way because it’s how it operates. Example would be the fact that amabs (gay/bi cis men, and trans women) are treated worse for being queer by bigots than afabs (bi cis women, who are not even slightly oppressed btw, lesbians, and trans men) the former will be insulted a little bit even by a lot of supposed allies, the latter will be somewhat humoured socially even some people who don’t accept their identities as valid. The reality of who they are is based on their actual gender but the way they are treated by people who are homo/transphobic is determined by agab. Also faketrans amabs and afabs are mostly quite different because the former are largely driven by sexuality and the latter are largely driven by social identity fetishisation.

>>43549224
Good explanation. I think they are useful terms and I will keep using it when appropriate. If some people assume that being called an amab or afab is automatically invalidating then they are just too dysphoric to consider the topic in depth.

>>43549282
I don’t even think it’s dysphoria but rather lashing out at perceived attempts to other trans people even when that’s not what’s happening

>>43548433
when someone starts talking about amabs, i know to ignore everything they have to say. it's pretty helpful to distinguish between the good ftms and the bad ones.
>>43548705
you do this with literally every other group.
>don't treat disabled people differently, but also don't pretend they can walk up the stairs with you
omg what an impossible fucking task my brain is imploding how unreasonable are these filthy cripples

>>43549319
well yeah because there's a time and a place for it to be contextually relevant and a lot of times it's used when it brings no additional benefit/clarity to a situation or discussion
sociopolitical climate really doesn't help either and has put a lot of us on edge, the well is poisoned so to speak and most have drank from it, including other trannies

>>43549326
>don't treat disabled people differently, but also don't pretend they can walk up the stairs with you
also dont forget to constantly remind them they're disabled

>>43549559
Honestly the same principle applies. If the disabled person can only view themselves through the lens of their disability then there is nothing I as a third party can do to help them feel less othered. That's on them to figure out with their therapist.

>>43549572
glib

>>43548433
Could you imagine trying to introduce tma/tme to the board? Lol lmao. Nobody here has enough self resepct to be a transfeminist

>>43550131
Tme is just something that white hons use when they try to silence other people. It will never catch mainstream cause only trans women like those words

>>43549224
Amabs have amab priviledge so its important to know who is amab. Amabs are statistically also very dangerous to afabs.

>>43550239
>amab priviledge
literally doesn't exist and you are a cretin

>>43548732
But sex is reproductive capacity
So intersex conditions are largely when neonates are born with a configuration that inhibits reproduction due to any of the like 17+ fuckups

>>43550992
Amab priviledge:
getting to go to school in all countries
Not being forced to marry old men as a child
Not forced to cover your whole body and move silent to not provoke lust in men
Not being forced to carry your rapists baby to full term
Not being considered dirty and having to live in a shed because of your natural hormonal cycle
Its not legal to beat your husband, unlike its legal to beat your wife
Having all medical research catered to your amab body
Having all safety tests catered to your amab body
Etc
Amab priviledges are endless, amabs even have easier time getting raped as they don't have to worry about pregnancy

Afab priviledge: not having to get drafted in some countries
Having close community and friendship with other afabs

>>43551151
>I am a cretin
again, you don't have to repeat yourself, we already know.
nobody gives a shit about the shithole country you're in, rajeesha.

>>43551190
Ok so it does exist you just don't want to acknowledge it so you don't lose sympathy points

>>43551312
It sounds like you're describing Uzbekistan or something

>>43548559
I identify as AFAB thoughever

>>43551312
No, it doesn't exist. Shithole countries exist. But even there women are treated way better than men and you're a misandrist retard (but i repeat myself) for only noticing the subhuman or foid pov.
You prove this through this:
>Having all medical research catered to your amab body
>Having all safety tests catered to your amab body
this is literally afab privilege. men die in all medical research because no women sign up for stages 1 and 2 of medical experimentation. they barely sign up for stage 3 which is easy mode.
the "safety tests" are literally the killing of amabs for the benefit of foids.
you'd know this if you weren't a cretin.

>>43551321
nta but you'd be hard pressed to find an abbaya in uzbekistan. it neighbors the taliban but the leadership there boils islamists alive.

>>43551325
the point is an amab that identifies as afab is different from an afab that identifies as afab

>>43551361
But I'm afab

>>43551190
Thats how most of the world is but I can list some us specific stuff
In us little kids are forced to incubate their rapists baby
Life of a fetus with no brain is seen as more important than a living little girl, just cause that fetus might be amab
Dead afabs are forced to incubate amabs even when the afab is dead
Afabs are the victims of amabs, trans afabs are the most raped demographic
All mentions of afabs are were forced removed from all research to favor amabs
Amabs are sad that too few teen amabs are having babies
Amabs are looking trying to remove afab voting rights
Afabs cannot get purely cosmetic surgeries for free unlike amabs

>>43551365
me when I lie

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>>43551365
>if I just psyop myself into thinking I was assigned female, then I won't be a tranny anymore!

>>43551373
I don't lie. As far as I know I am afab
>>43551382
And as far as you know too!

>>43551346
>men die in all medical research because no women sign up for stages 1 and 2 of medical experimentation.
No, men get to survive. Meds that cure amab might kill afab. All crash tests are also done with amab body models, everything caters to amab bodies

>>43551369
>Thats how most of the world is
I wish, lol.

>In us little kids are forced to incubate their rapists baby
I wish, lol.
>Life of a fetus with no brain is seen as more important than a living little girl, just cause that fetus might be amab
I wish that were true.
>Dead afabs are forced to incubate amabs even when the afab is dead
This is a very good thing. She's dead already, why shouldn't a new life be preserved?
>Afabs are the victims of amabs, trans afabs are the most raped demographic
this is a lie
>All mentions of afabs are were forced removed from all research to favor amabs
hasn't been true in decades and throughout 100% of your lifetime.
>Amabs are sad that too few teen amabs are having babies
yes, teenage pregnancy is a very good thing and it should be driven up.
>Amabs are looking trying to remove afab voting rights
no, they don't. they should, though. the 19th was a mistake.
>Afabs cannot get purely cosmetic surgeries for free unlike amabs
nobody should be getting purely cosmetic surgeries for free. but especially not women. you're right, there is room for improvement here.

>>43551481
Its all true. Google it, its not hard unless you have too big amab fingers for typing

>>43551369
>Afabs are the victims of amabs, trans afabs are the most raped demographic. True:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8849575/

https://www.aihw.gov.au/family-domestic-and-sexual-violence/population-groups/lgbtiqa-people#findings

https://ustranssurvey.org/download-reports/

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/research-briefs/sexual-violence-and-suicide-risk-among-lgbtq-young-people/

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2820301

>>43551564
>thetrevorproject
that's not evidence, that's advocacy by a pedo grooming gang
>surveys
yeah, foids SAY shit, that doesn't make it true. in fact, quite the opposite. foids lie about everything. it's their best skill.

>>43551617
>Coping & seething

>>43548572
oh hi hitler i didn't know you were still alive

>>43548780
>How is that any better?
Because nobody was "assigned" a sex at birth.
It was merely observed, based on what the Doctor saw when he was holding your ankles and spanking your ass.

>>43548433
probably because avoiding AFAB and AMAB out of contrarianism gets pretty stupid when everyone's saying theyfab all the time

>>43548433
It’s a way to be sexist
That’s it really

>>43551845
>women never practice ingrouping behavior and aren't known for their saving of face over truth

>>43548572
Please kill yourself immediately thanks

>>43550239
AMaBs have AMaB enslavement and obligations*

ahhh there we go