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>the rumors of my death were greatly exaggerated
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Tell me more about the character development of an anthropomorphic pachinko ball.
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MODUS
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>>738751763
Name 5 other than Godzilla, One Piece, Dragon Ball, Cowboy Bebop, and DMC
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>>738753381
can you rephrase that into a sentence that makes sense?
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Sonic will never be cool.
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Diaclone/Transformers, Ghost in the Shell, Dark Souls/Demon Souls, Silent Hill, Yakuza, Castlevania, Kingdom Hearts, Power Rangers, Pokemon, The Ring, Macross (debatably)
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the moment Sonic began talking is the moment he stopped being cool
it's honestly amazing what you can achieve by having characters be completely mute and have them express themselves through actions or through their face/body
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I think Sonic is cool
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>>738751721
Not really, an Eggman-fanboy kidnapped her, brainwashed her, and give her trauma about Sonic. And since she can't remember her past and her earliest memory is said fanboy torturing her to "be like Sonic", she wants to fuck everything up, both Sonic and Eggman.
She also ends up being hallucinating her torturer even after he died.
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It was inbetween the Eggman Base fight and the Dynamo Cage rematch, so she just lost a battle and at her worst during that hallucination.
Her mental health got better after the Phantom Rider arc since they are "heroes" now.
I like that she's a "good asshole", kinda like an anti-Sonic, she is free but in a more egotistical way.
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>even after he died
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I figured it would be Infinite but if it's either one of them then that's kind of disappointing. At least the latter makes more sense since they used illusions in that cave but if it's Starline that makes Ian look like a liar since the death was supposed to be final, even if I was in the "he's obviously coming back since deaths don't matter in capeshit media" camp as soon as he died.
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She decides that she wants to be a hero, because she got praised by the crowd for taking out the Phantom Rider(who is secretly Sonic).
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I can believe that this manifesto is how they describe his personality in an internal bible but i really can't buy that he'd lay it out like this when talking to a villain. even if he wasn't in a joking mood he'd probably still keep it brief and just say something about letting bygones be bygones.
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I think it's lame that they're bring Starline back. Starline was supposed to be a cautionary tale of what happens when you idolizes and try to be Eggman. It was one of the comic's few only strengths, showcase his spiral to madness due to his constant desire for approval as well as his downfall by the hands of his idol. All of that just ruin it by bringing him back.
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>>738752471
whatever reason being because the writers are evil degenerates and cannot write virtues into the characters anymore as they despise virtues and working towards being good, for them every one is perfect the way they are tm
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Dreadful. Sonic needs an actual fucking antagonist on his level. Not another frenemy or a toaster that jobs to a wall
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I mean the comic basically has no tertiary villains at this point. Mimic is dead, the Imposters are "reformed", Rough and Tumble are doing fuckall, and Clutch is neutralized. I quickly became bored of Starline when he was active but at this point I'd welcome him back if it makes things just a little more interesting
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And that audience is mostly on porn sites lmao
>>738757826
Yeah that's why demons are often portrayed as misunderstood good guys and angel types are irrevocably evil.
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>>738748478
This is retarded
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That's funny
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>>738758315
that looks like an absolutely kino scene, thanks for reminding me to catch up
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>itt autists butthurt some guy has sega's blessing to write sonic
Gotta love the hate Ian gets in almost any Sonic thread. Mostly from jealous autists who will never have the chance to get their decades of writing autistic fanfics validated by SEGA themselves.
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>>738758765
Stop! You're going down a dark path, anon. Now before you get silly ideas like "make good new villains," stop and consider a few things: Is there an existing character we can use as an Archie concept expy? Is this a situation we can make Eggman the main culprit for? Or if you absolutely NEED to make a new character, is there a marginalized group or ethnicity that could use representation in the Sonic universe? Don't just go around creating characters, you have to act with foresight and understanding of the western version of the material as well as the political landscape of BlueSky. Be better.
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>oh hey he might be cool
>gets caught
>WAIT WAIT WAIT ACTUALLY I'M THE VICTIM IN ALL THIS AND I'M LAME AND GAY NOW AND MY PARENTS ABUSED ME UNTIL I BECAME A LITERAL SCHIZO BUT IT'S OK BECAUSE I FORGIVE THEM ALSO IF YOU LOOK ON TWITTER YOU'LL LEARN MY PRONOUNS
Words can't describe what a fuck up this dude's arc was, it's like a perfect storm of bad writing.
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>>738759187
It's because they're canon and being intergraded to the mainline games. You can't ignore it at this rate. One day, they're going to make a new mainline Sonic game and they're going to shove Whisper, Tangle and Surge into it without proper introduction and you're going to want to know who they are and why they're familiar to the gang.
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I still think they saw the backslash about the they/them shit and backtracked fucking hard. It really seemed like it was going to be a more important character until that.Everything would've been better if they made the character female. That way I would've wanted to fuck her, and there would've been a lot more porn, so it would've been a good character.
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>>738759330
kek, I don't think so, they don't even know what they want Sonic to play like, I doubt they'll include any other characters
Forces was their big opportunity to do that and they squashed that one. I am aware of the dialog in Frontiers but all the dialog in Frontier is just constant references to the Sonic universe or to past events
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It would have been much more anime if Lunar was female but Soleil was a guy and instead of any kind of agenda or representation, it was left at that. Like they just don't address or try to label it, Soleil considers herself a man but Lunar is a woman, it's so simple but people try to make everything into a problem that requires a resolution and maybe it does, but sometimes you can make a more fun story out of not solving or not being able to easily solve the problem.
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>>738758990
>Insufferable theater kid character with muh heckin pronouns and "abusive parents" that aren't really abusive
>Literally serves to purpose to the story
>It's just a self-insert for the writer, who's an extremely autistic retard who felt like dragging his daddy issues into the comics because fuck you
God IDW is shit.
The metal virus arc was not well written, but it was interesting, everything that came after bar some of the Starline stuff was a waste of time.
This entire comic feels like fucking filler and there's nothing but fanfic level writing 90% of the time.
Starline's arc and death were one of the few interesting things in IDW, and now that's getting undone too.
Ian Flynn's writing is also just complete shit and relies on cheap references for everything.
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I miss the Battle Birds.... They haven't even shown up in Classic Purgatory since the reboot....
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At this rate, IDW comic is only good for producing female OCs that people want to fuck. That's why there so many of them, besides DEI representation. Even with the background characters like this, you see fans begging them to become important characters solely based on how much they want to fuck her.
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every time someone talks about the comic i learn about a bunch of new characters and arcs that I've missed, it's honestly amazing how much shit they have crammed in there
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>>738759764
That's one of the things I like about these comics. Lots of good looking and well designed background characters. Would fuck most of the female ones.
Makes me wish the next Sonic game has a really good character creator with lots of options to make our own OCs.Or a fully 3D Battle sequel where we can customize our own character.
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>they still didnt allow him to expand or adapt frontiers huh
Nope. Sage just showed up one day and that's that, the setting is post-Frontiers now.
Don't think too much about it because SEGA and their creative team sure didn't.
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Ian legit thinks Final Story of SA2 is what the overall tone for the franchise always was.
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so much tension
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>>738760171
This is more or less how it should be anyway, I'll take "somehow Sage returned" over "this normal beachfront city from the games is actually a secret lore city stuck in the middle of the mountain with its own artificial simulated environment because...it just is."
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Some things actually do carry over but it never feels as pointless as it does in the comics. I'm sure someone can explain it better or maybe it's just that it feels more egregious when the comic is a more story-focused medium and what should be character-defining moments kind of just come and go without proper build up.
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Which is incredibly frustrating because Archie Eggman worked. In Archie's setting. But the game Eggman has always been a more versatile character, able to play sinister or buffoonish as the scene requires.
Whenever Sonic calls a truce with IDW Eggman, or actively works with him. When the Chaotix are sheepish after busting up his base when he wasn't their man. It doesn't ring true. Going for a friendly kart race with the guy who caused the Metal Virus Apocalypse just doesn't feel right on any level.
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>>738761212
Why not? People play golf with a dictator in real life. Humans are an easygoing species, we don't get hung up on grudges too much.
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it reminds me of how Sonic Forces had these giant battle scenes but everything is incredibly pointless because it all depends on Sonic finding the mcguffin
I've never seen a piece of media make me care so much about its universe when it doesn't even fucking matter
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>>738761451
>pepperoni on a chilli dog
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>>738761181
I don't know if that's it, but that's also something that's kind of worse in the comics because games writers don't care but the comics writers always feel the need to shove answers for shit in your face so I could see it being more annoying there.
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>>738761625
my best guess is that they know they'll never do better than Sonic so might as well write their shitty fanfictions with saturday morning cartoon characters suffering
I recently played Freedom Planet 2 and it is literally everything the IDW comic tries to be
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Murder good
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Sonic bad
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>shadow-sama, I kne-
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Doing away with Starline was a huge mistake. He was a villain who could zig where Eggman zagged, and had an excellent motivation in his complex to surpass Eggman. Him being clever enough to catch other's mistakes while being too arrogant to see his own also gave him a solid edge with a logical Achilles' heel. Having Eggman just crush him and leave him insignificant, dead or not, completely cut off all the narrative potential for absolutely no payoff.
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Imo it's not a mistake because he was a good character, which he is, but because in hindsight there just wasn't anything compelling to replace him. Clutch should have been the boss of street level annoyances since he just doesn't have the makings of a varsity villain, Surge was engoodened, Mimic was like a manga that was being canceled and had to rush its ending, and Eggman hasn't been doing much lately.
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>>738762783
I am, I am everyone, everywhere
Anyhow, anyway, any will, any day
I am, I am everyone, everywhere
Anyhow, anyway, any will, any day
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>>738759764
Hehe, yeah.
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Why do they keep introducing a million OCs in a franchise where people often make mentions of issues like character bloat? And what happens to the older cast members? Do they just become footnotes to talking wolves or sheep?
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>>738759764
using monke is cheating
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>>738748864
This. And also this >>738749010
Sonic just wouldn't care. He wouldn't be mean, he wouldn't go out on a limb to patch things up, he'd just go with the moment. Unless Surge became a genuine real threat to him (which she never really does), he just wouldn't take it seriously and isn't tied down enough to hold anything really against her.
Like Sonic Heroes had Metal become a full on metal dragon demon that kidnapped some of his friends and truly threatened the world with robotic domination, and while he got serious in the middle of it, the game just ends with
>ha, too bad you lost, catch you on the flipside, lol
and I think that captures his character pretty well. No "let's be friends now and get you on the good side, Metal" or "yeah I fucked you up Metal, suck it you loser, I've got better things to do," just "better luck next time, you'll have to try harder than that to catch me" before running off into the sunset
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>>738747853
Remind me this page, I like how he goes from smug to genuinely shocked over Eggman losing his shit.
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>>738763248
Despite their lies, the comics are perfectly capable of telling stories with the game characters, but in the west you get royalties for making characters so that's why in a lot of capeshit you see OCs suddenly show up being really important.
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>the best iteration of the property is #1-24 of Skybound
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Nothing.
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>>738763875
I barely remember about the original Speed Racer, but I really liked that movie.
Also to be kind of on Sonic topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-6F5OPg7uM
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>>738747853
>Ian Flynn's Sonic: words words words words
>the real Sonic:
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>>738760171
what im thinking now that flynn got onboard for writing for the games in any limited capacity he currently has or had, fucking cut whatever arc ideas he had for the comic to throw at izuuka crocked teeth face in the faintest hope he gets greenlit
has the question ever been asked at him on his stupid pay 2 ask podcast?
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>>738747853
I didn't read any of that. Canon Sonic wouldn't yap his mouth non-stop like this.
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>>738764424
context?
why is tails making that face
why is tails about 2 secs away from making an ahegao?
why does sonic loook mad like he lost a bet?
why is sonic shoving a plunger on this nigga ass?
is there a dildo inside?
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>>738764481
Please describe in an intelligent and concise manner how Sonic and co. have depth in these comics.
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I might not have the correct grasp on things, but here's how i see it: the games are the primary media and can affect the comics, but the comics are secondary media and can't do anything that might affect the games. Like, if the games brought back Tikal and made her a main cast member, the comics are beholden to intigrate her in some way, but the games wouldn't be beholden to do the same if the comics brought her back for an arc. The tldr is the comics can't shake up the status quo in the way the games can.
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They could have just made it so Starline was solely responsible for the virus, or Eggman Nega, but as i understant it Flynn doesn't care for Nega, or you could make it an alternate universe that's close enough to the games, Sega has shown they aren't opposed to that sort of thing.
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>Oooooooh, I run like the wind, and have freedom in my veins. I bring tears to the eyes of children with my sheer righteousness.
Unironically hate this highfalutin, monologging version of Sonic.
I like him when he's a pissy little punk asshole who breaks robots, and refuses to elaborate.
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>Introduce the greatest character in the series’ 30+-year run
>Kill him within 50 issues because he’s too overtly fetishistic for the higher-ups, even though he keeps it completely G-rated
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>>738764661
nigger, it's a universe with no cohesion, no stakes, no meaningful characters, everything gets resolved the exact same way every time, if the writing was good they wouldn't be wasting it on fucking Sonic "Baldy McNosehair" Hedgehog
if they didn't make furry bait then nobody would give a single fuck about the comics, if the writers were any good, they wouldn't be writing for SEGA.
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>I don't like it therefore is bad
Ok, bro. You keep being invested in a franchise you hate anyway.
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Ignoring this poster’s negative IQ, for context, Dr. Starline actually was partially influenced by Frankenfurter from Rocky Horror, so he always has been a little bit fruity, but in the same way as Pegasus from Yu-Gi-Oh! is. Other influences include the Hunters from Bloodborne, Dante from Devil May Cry, a couple Overwatch heroes, and Merlin from Hellboy.
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>>738765037
>it's a universe with no cohesion, no stakes, no meaningful characters, everything gets resolved the exact same way every time
Maybe read a real shonen manga instead of expecting that from Japanese Mickey Mouse?
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That's still kind of a cop out. I think the problem is the writers set up these arcs that should have lasting effects but they can't so any real payoff you would expect or hope to see is just not there. You can write fun stories, even relatively big stories with cool climaxes, within a universe that has to stay the same. Episodic shows like most old mecha or other shonen stuff did it all the time, it's just the people at IDW don't know how to make that work because they're still mentally stuck in the Archie days and refuse to adapt. They should have just done classic since so far that's all they're good at.
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>he talks about the universe having no cohesion, no stakes, no meaningful characters
>"I-I didn't meant the whole franchise"
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Does Sonic even work in other mediums like cartoons, books, comics and movies? I mean would you say so after 30+ years of divisive failures and cancelled shows and controversial writing?
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They’re never going to bring him back, either, even though some people in the pipeline have flip-flopped on it. When you look at how quickly his pages ended up on HypnoHub, it seems blindingly obvious that someone on the team was in on it and he got executed when they were found out. Because, you know, the Sonic series definitely needs to do MORE to appease the cross-burning anti-autism jihadists that every single fan has called out for ruining the series last decade.
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>Ignoring this poster’s negative IQ,
sorry finding out it wasnt a woman made me dumb and horny
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>Japanese Mickey Mouse
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nigger i grew up with Sonic and I love it but IDWlets thinking their comic is anything above a C- are fucking insane, the only thing it's good for is to give artists smut ideas
>Maybe read a real shonen manga instead of expecting that from Japanese Mickey Mouse?
that's what hillarious to me, they WANT to be a shonen manga so bad and they can't get it right, and they'll likely never will
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the universe has no cohesion whatsoever and they aren't even interested in having any, that's why every game takes place in a different planet than the last one
i play the games because I like them but I'm not going to pretend that the stories are anything worthwhile, the best story they ever told was 1-3&K and they never had to use any words for that
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>words words words
So I was right, you hate the franchise and just keep playing it because sunk cost fallacy. Thanks for making it clear.
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Genuine question: do you think Starline was killed because of complaints to the network? Anyone familiar with the consumer component of comic distribution knows that audience letters were a pretty big part of comic culture. Back in the day, it was pretty common for comic artists to satirically feature complaint letters in the commentary tracks of their books. I don’t think it’s unrealistic to think parents were like “this faggot duck is making my kid too horny!”, and SEGA folded immediately.
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IDW doesn't want to be shonen, they want to be Star Trek Enterprise Vulcans where the Enterprise ship is shonen and they're tailing it making sure it goes along a boring and not fun course. They want to "improve" shonen but can't because they fundamentally misunderstand it.
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Anons are too ingrained in internet culture so they think that's all that matters, there was a pretty clear story build up to Starline's death so I think the porn-obsessed retard itt is just that.
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are you just trolling him?
>>738765343
there was an ova from japan that dropped in the 90s its so old knuckles still had a hat!
there is a ton of sonic media that is nice
what i have noticed and come to accept is that everyone seems to have their own interpretations on how the sonic universe is
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Cool, now tell us about Daima.
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>Sonic is different from how he used to be
Because of character development? Like...obviously?
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I'm a true fan of this sonic >>738748958
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for being an edgelords side kick, he seems a bit lame compared to surge. way too llame to be having all this attitude why does surge like this dude? he looks like is is finna go on a snowboard trip with bark
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The “bashful kid with a demure, edgeless superpower that becomes a dangerous violence monster when a trauma switch flips” thing is cool, but unfortunately is in service of fearmongering against a character that I like more.
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Women love him
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Judge: Ian "Ken Penders" Flynn, for your crimes against the Sonic franchise, the jury of this court sentences you to...deat-
Me: *bursting into the Acorn Court room* WAIT!
Judge: *sigh* This better be good...
Me: *panting as I walk up to Ian after having run to the court to stop the execution in time* Mister Ian, um, no, *I look out to the judge, jury, lawyers, and audience* everyone, I have something I need to say before you make a decision.
Me: *clears my throat and looks at Ian* Ian, you're a flawed writer. You pick and choose what's canon depending on your personal preferences, you mischaracterize the cast based on biases from the Satam and Archie days, and you make the characters explain themselves too much.
Ian: *looks downcast and is uncharacteristically quiet*
Me: But...
Ian: *looks up in surprise and tentative hope*
Me: I just, I REALLY want to have sex with Whisper the Wolf.
Judge: *the jury and audience explode into hushed whispers* Order. Order!
Judge: *lets out a deep sigh* Young man...you're right. We can't sentence a man to death after he helped create such a 10/10 character. The defendant... *he bangs his judge's tarot card against the podium* is cleared of all charges!
Ian: *while the room erupts in cheers* That's... thank you so much. Who are you? How can I ever repay you?
Me: You could start by apologizing.
Ian: Of course! Wait, apologize for wh-
Me: *stabs Ian* THIS IS FOR TELLING EVERYONE THE CAMPING ARC MATTERED!
Ian: *coughing up blood*
Me: DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
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No, he’s canon, and he also *created* Surge and Kit. He didn’t kidnap them.
Schematically, they’re based on glitches from Genesis Sonic that affect the protags and, among other things, give each of them a new whacked-out color scheme.
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She was kidnapped, mutilated, rebuilt, and brainwashed into hating Sonic after Eggman kicked Starline out for being a retard. She never met or cared about Sonic before that.
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Correct, we won't because we know better than to waifu Surge when Lanolin exists.
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I like how Kitsunami has become the actual evil one of the two, he's going to cause disasters that Surge will fix so she'll keep being hailed a hero. And the funniest part is she has no idea he's doing it.
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Please Gokubro, this is a normal Sonic thread, you're looking for the Sonicschizo in those /co/ Death Battle threads.
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According to Evan Stanley, the events of Sonic Frontiers have already happened offscreen, specifically before Issue #68.
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Bass has had more dubs than Metal Sonic. He loses to Mega Man because he has to. Outside of that, he's been Wily's most successful creation. Metal Sonic with a power up couldn't even fight Knuckles and his Temu friends.
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>empathy? how could any normal person feel that?
I don't know anon, maybe by not being a literal psychopath and being able to connect with the characters of a story and their feelings. But that's probably just me.
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Adam is alright, but I really hate Evan Stanley's art the most. Just dreadful to look at.
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>>738768435
Bro this character looks ridiculous
Its like having a guy dressed like a clown have a dramatic monologue.
Maybe you could get it to work with the more normal looking anthropomorphic animals but half the sonic cast absolutely cannot pull this off.
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I don't disagree but you're talking to a thread of autists that see themselves as Sonic characters on the inside so they relate more to these ridiculous looking cartoons more than they can to real people.
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hxh did it multiple times too (hisoka is sexy af)
digimon
one piece
sailor moon
batman
apparently brave lil toaster gave gen x and millenials nightmares
there is also spawn
league of legends
digital circus
ace attorney
i can go on, the point is that you can make a goofy looking character be taken serious if you know what you are doing
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nu sonic in general, remember in sonic forces when they had sonic get kidnapped and tortured? all so your OC can show up to save him? i honestly wish that they implemented the OC into the story better and allowed us to choose his fighting style baka this is why fan projects stay winning
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Yeah the problem is writing and not the setting but Sonic doesn’t exactly hire or entice good writers. Imagine Alan Moore’s Sonic the Hedgehog or Amazon’s Sonic the Hedgehog where Sonic gets his speed from injecting a super soldier heroin serum that also makes him rape Amy for fun. The character needs some kind of middle-ground.
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>you're talking to a thread of autists that see themselves as Sonic characters on the inside
I don't see myself as a Sonic character nor have I any kind of fursona or whatever they call it now, but I still care about the characters in any story I'm watching/reading/playing. It's supposed to be human nature to care and connect with others, no matter if they're some fictional talking animal or a regular real life puppy desperately trying to get out of a river or something.
This thread made me realize a lot of people here are just soulless bags of meat who can't even relate to a simple concept like that.
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sonic frontiers managed to kill my interest in this franchise for good and i would rather sonic 06 be made fully canon than that trashfire continuing to exist in canonand sonic 06's plot is still dogshit, it's just at least it's not retroactively fucking over the entire franchise's plot with stupid revelations and making the TRUE ULTIMATE GREATEST EVIL to be a fucking purple moon
and now they're shoving the dumb ai into everything to remind me that it's still canon
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Forces was so goofy that all it was missing was Sonic doing the Family Guy death pose after getting beaten up by Infinite lmao, the only "edgy" part of the game were a couple throwaway lines of dialogue
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The final boss is legitimately the least of that game's offenses. Awful wannabe introspective dialogue ruined with meta reference spam, awful pop in with the worst lore reason possible for it, awful asset reuse, boring boss gameplay despite hype music and presentation, and the meat of the shit sandwich, the chao retcon.
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Shadow got the duck treatment
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>important characters solely based on how much they want to fuck her.
And that's a good thing
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>Which is fine by me
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And yet it's hundred times better than any cape slop.
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Sonic sama....please...have mercy...
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He deserved that being the ultimate fanboy. He was literally the oblivion, fanboy for Eggman.
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Was this Ian writing as well? What happened to him after Archie?
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Don't forget the cute fox girl too
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Lore accurate Sally
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Whether or not this makes sense depends on whether Robotnik violates the NAP too hard by permanently harming one of Sonic's friends. I feel like the ship for that sailed in the games following Forces where he shifts from sticking his animal friends into batteries to killing them outright just to spite Sonic.
Either way, it's a clunky-ass way to illustrate what >>738764424 did regularly with a single line of text.
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Manga Sonic is so Waku Waku
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There's a quote somewhere but the nice thing in jap media is they just throw things in because it works and they don't give a shit. Sonic and friends are in the human world and humans exist and it just works, no explanation needed. Western Sonic? Got to have a lore reason for humans, you can only imply them potentially maybe existing until daddy Sega says maybe it's ok, and hopefully they can exist without there needing to suddenly be two worlds for no reason. A bunch of worthless red tape that serves no purpose when japs just let it happen with no bullshit in the way.
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Someone has that page where sonic boom Amy smashes inside a train carriage, then she finds out is full of fucking missiles and she smashed one into the rest, the missile has massive dent and by some bullshit miracle it didn't explode leaving Amy extremely stressed over how she almost blew herself into bits and promises to move quietly from now.
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Sally sometimes was a huge dick
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To fight and eradicate them?
The bible most part say don't make peace with evil, destroy them where you can find them
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>>738748478
Sonic isn't a total dickhead devoid of any sympathy. It'd go like-
"So some nut kidnapped you and you wanna hash it out?", "I'll take as many hits to calm you down but don't expect me not to dish it back",
Once the fights over- "There you blew off some steam, now you have a clear head and no one left to blame so start making your own choices".And then they have crazy sex.
You need a middle ground bozos...
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Drogune deserves to succeed purely for ABT's sake, Ian has burned too many bridges with Sonic fans just by virtue of writing so much mediocre material and as such he deserves none of our hard-earned cash.
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All women cheat. I thought I struck gold when I found a "nerdy" girl who liked anime, vidya and posting on 4chan. Fast forward a few years and I'm absolutely tired of her, resenting her and declining her advances for sex. I broke up with her on Christmas and then she cheated on her new boyfriend with me a month ago. She probably cheated on me too, but whatever. When I broke up with her she was crying and saying she loved me (a lie) and after she apparently realized I was serious started calling me a faggot and saying I was making a mistake and would die alone lmao. I hate women.
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They are black and brown as like their soul.
This is the right thing to do
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That's more like guides than law.
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>break woman's heart then proceed to act like the victim
Just moid things
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I don't even know what voice to read this in. I love it but it sounds so profound for sonic. I wanna hear jason griffith read this
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>had a loving girlfriend
>spergs out because he got tired of her
>makes her cheat on her new boyfriend with him no less
>she probably does this because she loves him still
>somehow this is her fault
Really glad of being an incel right now, instead of ending like some anons here.
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Kid got a good day.
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She's dead Jim
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Yeah me too, I'm glad I'll never have sex and that I'll spend half my posts on the 4channel video games board crying about being horny and lonely while replying "she looks like she fucks human men" to any image of a nonhuman creature or object and that I'll die alone and unloved.
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No Christian, be it peasent or pope, was shy from killing his enemies. We had crusades to kill all the muslims brought into Europe ffs.
Only after White people lost WWII did everything become gay and retarded (jewish) telling us to tolerate evil (the new ruling class).
Jesus straight up told you to sell your shit and buy a sword if you ever bother to actually read anything he said and aren't just copypasting half a sentence from r/atheist or quoting adam greenberg
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>>738771880
Between Earth and Mobius opened a portal so all thirsty anthro girl get their own human male.
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The biggest disconnect between Archie Sonic and IDW Sonic is the forced marriage between Eastern and Western character writing.
Archie Sonic was a very Western Character which makes sense because Sonic was designed to appeal to the Western audience. Sonic also felt like he lived in and belonged in the world of Mobius. He had friends, family, a hometown, and many other things that made him personally invested in the war against Robotnik. Say what you will about Penders and his echidna autism and obsession with melodrama but he and every other writer helped lay the world building groundwork to make Mobius actually feel lived in.
Now let's look at IDW Sonic. Sega wants to be more involved and critical in the comic's development (but not enough to hire more people to speed up the process making every story arc take at least a year to be edited and approved) to make Sonic more Eastern. Now Sonic's defining character trait is that he is "The Wind". The Wind doesn't live anywhere, the island he inhabits doesn't even have a name. The Wind isn't personally invested in anything other than fighting Eggman for no other reason than being The Wind. The Wind doesn't take any personal responsibility for anyone that gets caught in the crossfire.
Then Issue 50 happens. Surge accuses IDW Sonic of being responsible for her misfortune and his treating his fights with Eggman like a game. The Wind doesn't have an answer. The Wind doesn't care. And yet Surge is supposed to be the bad guy in this situation.
That's why I gave up on IDW Sonic.
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Where the fuck is this conversation coming from in a Sonic thread of all places? Furries are unhinged.
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Honestly the series has a weird idea of time anyway. Everything since Adventure 1 besides maybe like one or two side games are all in the same year eternally to the point that they wiped character ages from the board to pretend the series doesn't have to care anymore about all that. You can see a continuous track of ideas and development that Generations proves, anniversary nostalgia doesn't help, but Frontiers is that awkward spot of only being a leaping off point for later projects and ideas, but can 100% be anywhere it really wants to be, and the comics are clearly stuck with "no adaptations, only originals" now. So if Sega wants Sage, or the writers want Sage, well, here's Sage, go play Frontiers for context, can't really work around it any other way, fuck you apparently.
That's what you get with paper advertisements at this point nowadays.
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IDW seems like it's even more extreme then that though since at least manga Sanic has friends and is willing to stand up for them >>738770945. The original pitch was that he fights Robotnik for his friends' sake.
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>Sonic thread
>Furries are unhinged
You already are one.
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>>738771880
It turns out all the games and everything up to now happened during summer vacation, Sonic and co. all return to Sunset High School in Sunset Heights, Green Hill Zone to have wacky school hijinks.
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I miss the sonic highschool
It was the most unhinged fan fic
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Uhhhhhhhh...Black Knight arc about questing for the holy grail but make sure you get the writers that did Black Knight. Do not let Flynn near the script. Please for the love of god my sanity would be on the line.
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>turdworld cope
Tell me what year is it. 2026 since what?
We conquered and created the world!
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By Ian's own admission it wasn't going anywhere, he just kept making things up and meant for it to go on indefinitely. Technically zombots would have happened at some point to reintroduce roboticization but that's about all we know.
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They made a fucking black version of this character with guns and butt metal playing on the background for you, and you STILL felt the need to self insert your school shooter attitude into the blue one?
You gave him a fucking anime angry vein for God's sake
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wow there is actually people defending ian flynn and shilling IDW, what fucking cancer have they been putting in the water to make the nu-sonic fans so goddamn retarded?
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>Thou shall not kill
I see you're doing the meme
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This but unironically
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Sonic characters fight for whats right
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I'm positive that people who say this have never actually engaged in Transformers media besides G1 much less have the mental capacity to read a book
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The first half of SL is better than any of your shitty comic book nostalgiaslop or IDW homoerotica and the Unicron Trilogy does a morally grey/conflicted Optimus better than anything that came after
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No kill rule is so stupid. Eggman is literally Robo-Hitler, he's enslaved the killed the world population countless times and as per Forces tortured Sonic for months. Even the Joker is less evil at this point, and Batman should have killed him too.
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Sonic 06 very clearly had artistic intent, it was just badly executed. It follows a lot of the same beats and through-lines as all the other games as well and at the very least had an excuse for why it's so bad. Frontiers was seemingly in development for nearly 6 years, has no real gameplay, no plot, no aesthetic, no actual level design
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Frontiers was a cope after the abject failure that was Forces people were desperate for some kind of change or shift that was already long overdue. It was a wake up call for a lot of people that shit was never going to change even if Shadow Generations was much better
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Super silver can extend his powers through the whole planet, or most of it, and targeted the virus on a celular lvl to every single living thing, then he threw it away while Sonic opened a portal
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Sonic is just an upgraded Mario. You play Mario 1 you can go fast as long as you're skilled. Sonic just evolved that by turning up the speed if you knew to take advantage of the terrain while Mario went on to pander to normies and now all his games are for babies and skill is never really a factor.
Sonic got bitches lusting over his dick, Mario got friendzoned after 35 years of saving Peach
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>If you know you lost it then you didn't lost it in a universal, absolute sense. You are aware that you are missing something and you can now use your agency to begin the process of searching for it. Best case scenario: You'll experience a hero's journey, find it and rediscover yourself. Worst case scenario: You'll experience a hero's journey, not find it but the journey itself will form a new identity, possibly a better one.
>You can make a new family, possibly a better one.
>You can set a new purpose for yourself, possibly a better one than the one you lost.
>You always have something better to do in life
>You dont have to hunt Sonic down
>Sonic will not meet his end by your hands
>Do you know how much good things you can still go through?
>Do you know you can choose not be stuck in a loop of hate and sorrow
>Remaining years of your life are further wasted reliving it over and over.
>And all Sonics are in better place because of it
>Certain truths are not worth knowing, you are a good proof of it.
>This isn't Sonic final battle
>Sonic will not meet his doom at your hands
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>went on to pander to normies and now all his games are for babies and skill is never really a factor
So, um... How is that different from Sonic, exactly?
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>dude just pull yourself up by the bootstraps and become a super hero for no reason
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Super Link (Japanese Energon). The Unicron trilogy like most 2000s anime was completely botched in the dubbing department with voice errors, bad acting and mistranslated dialogue that fundamentally breaks the story. It was especially bad with Transformers since they were rushing them out so the show came out along with the toys
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He was like that in Shadow 05 too
https://files.catbox.moe/y606f2.mp4
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Don't remind me. But i'll take random BLM faggotry over whatever Evan Stanley is trying to push.
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Sonic - pure unfiltered chaos
Shadow - synthetic controlled chaos
It was pretty obvious from the start.
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>THIS is who Pariah was shilling
OOF!! I knew Pariah was a fag pseudo-intellectual but I still had some hope in his opinions regarding Sonic.
This could so easily be a repeat of what happened with Ian.
>Yeah bro, the game's story suck now but there's this one comic writer that would be pretty good for it
>retards start campaign for the guy without reading any of his works or knowing who he is
>sega actually listens to the (retarded) fans and puts him in a position of power
>turns out he's mentally ill
Ugh! Sega just give the writing job to the first Japanese person you see on the street. Guy doesn't even need to know what a Sonic is, just tell him to write a shonen hero story and guaranteed it will be better than any slop we've had in the last 17 years.
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OVA is objectively the best interpretation of the character. He doesn't want the hero role, he just is by his actions. I really hate this modern interpretation of "He'S LiKe ThE WiNd!" or how he's deeply connected to nature and peace and all that junk. It just comes across of trying to tack on some noble merit badges on him to make him seem more heroic or add some nonsense depth. He's just a cool dude that others aspire to be like. He doesn't go around giving speeches or pep talks.
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>"He'S LiKe ThE WiNd!" or how he's deeply connected to nature and peace and all that junk. It just comes across of trying to tack on some noble merit badges on him to make him seem more heroic or add some nonsense depth.
He's more about freedom than peace but that is what the creators say he represents just in a more symbolic way. OVA is just Sonic as he usally is. As a matter of fact, JP Sonic is totally consistent while Americans still can't grasp what is a very simple character.
Yeah, Sonic is "like the wind" but a lot of these chucklefucks miss the point that nobody needs to say it outright because it's shown through his actions.
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Frontiers has the best story Sonic has ever had in 20 years. Stop pretending anything we had after 06 wasn't putrid garbage diarrhea
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Nothing. People pretending the comics being boring, not even bad, just boring, is the end of the world
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> He doesn't want the hero role, he just is by his actions
>just a cool dude that others aspire to be like
To me this is being the wind thou
>deeply connected to nature and peace and all that junk
Nature is the most brutally violent and cruel thing ever. Yeah I get a lot people here interpret it as being some hippy tree hugger vegan garbage, but the word in it's true meaning is nothing like that.
I see that sort of unstoppable violence when I look at Sonic speed through grassy fields at astounding velocity. It commands respect like Nature does.
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Millennial nerds have a weird inability to suspend disbelief so they need to question literally every aspect of the world down to it's most minute details or it "doesn't work".
It's no wonder that as soon as people like this entered the creative sphere nearly all western media died within like 5 years.
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