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NOBODY CARES ABOUT CHINA EXCEPT THE CHINESE

THE PEOPLE WANT THE GREAT RED RIVER BRIDGE WAR OF 1931

>>738748290
no one cares about rednecks except the rednecks

>>738748290
A bridge that's boring let's do something in a wild west maybe one of those deadly feuds.
Hatfields and McCoy the video game .

>>738748456
You are Chinese
>>738748534
Prime example of why gamers must be educated on the strategic value of a bridge

>>738748732
>You are Chinese
A lot of 3kingdoms video games are made by Japanese companies. And are quite successful in Japan and the West.

>>738748840
That's good and all, but what the world needs now is Total War: Red River Bridge

>>738748953
>>738748290
Okay can you tell it what was up with that actual conflict without us having to go see YouTube or the Wikipedia page?

What's the last war that ended that's not going to heat up again in less than a week to make a new video game of?

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>>738748093

>>738748093
I want to see more Mongolia games

Here’s a clear, concise summary of the main points from the thread you’re viewing, grounded directly in the page content.

Summary of the Main Points
The original poster asks what other real historical wars could make good video‑game settings besides the heavily used World War II and the frequently adapted Three Kingdoms era of China (220–280 AD) .

One reply dismisses interest in Chinese history and jokingly proposes the Great Red River Bridge War of 1931 as a setting instead .

Another user counters that no one cares about “rednecks” either, continuing the banter rather than offering a serious suggestion .

A different commenter suggests the Wild West or one of the many historic feuds as a more interesting alternative setting .

Someone argues that gamers underestimate the strategic importance of bridges, defending the idea of a bridge‑focused conflict as a game setting .

Another user notes that Three Kingdoms games are mostly made by Japanese developers and are popular in Japan and the West, pushing back against the earlier dismissal of Chinese settings .

A commenter humorously insists the world needs “Total War: Red River Bridge”, doubling down on the bridge‑war joke .

One participant asks for an explanation of the actual historical conflict behind the Red River Bridge War without needing to check YouTube or Wikipedia .

Another user asks a broader question: What was the last war that ended and isn’t about to flare up again, implying that modern conflicts escalate too quickly to be used as stable game settings .

>>738750420
Do you start out as Genghis Khan before he became the Great Khan?

>>738750665
that could be cool
I like playing as him in Civ games and painting the map with my cavalry

>play games about the three kingdoms
>muh glorious cao cao
>read rot3k
>he's a paranoid psycho
rofl china

>>738750843
Did you read romance of the Three Kingdoms ? Because that's even the author of the story admit a big part of that is fixing.

>>738750945
did you read my post space question mark you ESL motherfucker

>>738750001
The Yugoslav Wars.

>>738748093
It's not popular but I want a schuut game set during the Yugoslav wars. I don't think anyone's made one.

>>738751994
>>738752164 (Me)
MY NIGGA

>>738748093
the funny part about 3K/ROTK is that the thing people actually like is the chaos that leads to the 3K period because that's where the big battles and big name heroes come up. The actual 3K period is mostly old men moping about the god old times and getting senile and boring border skirmishes that goes on for like 80 years.

>>738752164
The only game I can think of that has anything to do with the Yugoslav Wars is Tactics Ogre.

Bump

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This tackles a ton of different eras, sadly it's buggy and kind of shit. But conceptually it's pretty neat.

>>738748093
You have to understand Three Kingdoms and Journey to the West are the only historic properties China is allowed to use.

>>738748093
Dunno
But except for the world wars most people know more about 3 chinkdoms and arthurfag than muttwars or any other shit

You can make any period of history interesting

>>738756003
Oh and Nobunaga

>>738756107
>>738755563
What?

>>738748093
Sengoku Period is an obvious one.
Also why hasn't one of these chinkslop car companies called their brand 'Red Hare' yet?

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>>738748093
For some reason no one ever talks about the Taiping Rebellion despite it literally being the bloodiest war in history, and happened in the 1800s

>>738750843
RottK is Shu fanfiction. Everyone knows this

>>738750843
>doesn't know the difference between historical record and fiction

>>738758751
imagine a christian china

>>738759150
>>738758751
Meet Jesus Christ's Chinese Brother | The Life & Times of Hong Xiuquan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n5b7uC9Bsqc&pp=ygUlSGlzdG9yeSB1cGdyYWRlcyBqZXN1cyBjaGluZXNlIGJ1dHRlcg%3D%3D

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>>738748093
How the fuck do you pronounce this nigga's name

>>738750420
In want to see Mongolian cuties :3

>>738761442
elaborate

>>738761376
It's something like zao zao or shao shao

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>>738748093

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The 3K show(2010) made me actually like Liu Bei. Before my contact with 3k was mostly trough older Three Kingdoms KOEI games and so my fav(from 3K) was Sun because Sun Tsu and good position to expand, didn't like Cao Cao because he was packed with great officers and have great position to steamroll everyone and didn't liked Liu Bei because I heard he was betraying everyone who let him in also his early position was kind of bad.
But show really make me like him. Cao Ca was shown there as paranoid psychopath and Sun family as warmongering tards. Sure Liu Bei also had his wtf moments but over all he was much more sympathetic than the rest of main cast.

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>>738761442
Did you rike it?

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>>738761442
do you?

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>>738761442

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>>738750843
Perhaps you misunderstood him.

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>>738763390
NTA but I doubt it
He start paranoid and become more paranoid and definitely a psychopath. He is really crafty tho.

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>>738763390
Nah

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>>738761442
The Khan had thousands of these prairie bunnies...

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>>738763690
>kazak bitches

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>>738762957
>Thicc asían
Wtf
How come I never wondered how Mongolian chicks look like

>>738763567
>>738763689
I used to think this way too, but as I got older I started seeing the vulgar nature of humanity and that it actually takes a cruel person to wrangle the masses in times of chaos. Kindness is always exploited by foul individuals.

Emu Wars

>>738763932
Which doesn't contradict Cao Cao. He believes he's a son of a bitch and he knows and accepts it. What he cares is about being true to himself. His famous quote is after all, "I would rather betray the world, than have the world betray me." He's a free man who doesn't want any one lording over him or forcing him to think for himself.

>>738764241
Exactly that, you definitely understand Cao Cao.

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>>738750420
I love my well cooked Mongolian sniper wife

>>738758802
>why do people simp for the good guys

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>>738763932
>Kindness is always exploited by foul individuals.
how Chinese
anyway, its not the he is not kind, he goes extra mile to fuck over anyone he suspect (and plenty of innocent bystanders)
its also funny how he go for used goods(he don't trust himself to not fall for some jade beauties) or go for people who thinks are extremely loyal and would be loyal to him if he manage to get them to switch sides

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>>738764323
>that arms

>>738764592
Exploiting kind people is not unique to China. That is how you win. You go the extra mile to annihilate your opponents. Being virtuous and all that is great philosophically, but do not do you any good in times of chaos and war. Hell, it hardly does any good in corporate culture.

>>738764592
>how Chinese
Unless you live in a very high trust society like an amish or japanese neighborhood, that's sadly most of the world nowadays. You can never be too trusting of other people.

>>738764784
Exactly.
It took me way too long to learn this. I got burned, exploited, used, and fucked over for so long until I stopped caring about others in an altruistic fashion.

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>>738764784
>>738764742

>>738764742
desu, most conquerors, kings, and other great leaders weren't virtuous people to begin with. What men respect is charisma, strength, and wealth. History is after all, violent. Being a good person is reserved for mostly female figureheads.
Cao Cao's line there after all is him mocking all the poets and scribes who style themselves being too cultured for war while he shows them the reality that the world is a dog eat dog world. It also reflects harshly on chinese culture on why they keep getting invaded and conquered by so called barbarians because they are too proud.

>>738765034
Agreed completely, that is why we constantly see people like this in all the top positions. Even in "revolutions" to unseat such people they just replace them with another individual of the same qualities.

Would you say the Three Kingdoms period is late classical or early medieval? Something about the armor of the period makes it feel kind of timeless.

>>738765220
Hmm, I'm leaning toward late classical.

>>738765220
It's in classical antiquity. The Han and 3Kingdom period existed alongside the Roman empire. The Tang is the early medieval dynasty, where their western counterpart would be the Byzantines.

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Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be
answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, it is
much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with. Because this is to
be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as
you succeed, they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life, and children, as is
said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches, they turn against you. And that prince
who, relying entirely on their promises, has neglected other precautions, is ruined; because friendships
that are obtained by payments, and not by greatness or nobility of mind, may indeed be earned, but
they are not secured, and in time of need cannot be relied upon; and men have less scruple in offending
one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing
to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a
dread of punishment which never fails.

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Nevertheless, a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred;
because he can endure very well being feared whilst he is not hated, which will always be as long as he
abstains from the property of his citizens and subjects and from their women. But when it is necessary
for him to proceed against the life of someone, he must do it on proper justification and for manifest
cause, but above all things he must keep his hands off the property of others, because men more quickly
forget the death of their father than the loss of their patrimony. Besides, pretexts for taking away the
property are never wanting; for he who has once begun to live by robbery will always find pretexts for
seizing what belongs to others; but reasons for taking life, on the contrary, are more difficult to find and
sooner lapse. But when a prince is with his army, and has under control a multitude of soldiers, then it is
quite necessary for him to disregard the reputation of cruelty, for without it he would never hold his
army united or disposed to its duties

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For this reason, a prince ought to take care that he never lets anything slip from his lips that is not
replete with the above-named five qualities, that he may appear to him who sees and hears him
altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious. There is nothing more necessary to appear
to have than this last quality, inasmuch as men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand,
because it belongs to everybody to see you, too few to come in touch with you. Everyone sees what you
appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion
of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them; and in the actions of all men, and
especially of princes, which it is not prudent to challenge, one judges by the result.

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tl;dr
Cao Cao was feared and hated
aka he should read Prince

>>738756071
This

Most of the shit that makes say Medieval Europe, China, or Japan interesting also applies to Egypt, Mesopotamia, Ancient or Medevial India ands Southeast Asia, Prehispanic Mexico and Peru, etc

Even the parts of World History which lacked urbanized civilizations still have enough shit going on to serve the purposes as a setting for vidya, plenty of widely lauded games really aren't that complicated, you could make a Super Mario Game with a random tribal african theme and it'd still play the same

People are just uncreative and stick to certain common settings

>>738748290
Smark slop
Wiki slop
Historical equivalent of the guys who shill Project Zomboid in every Rimworld thread

>>738770114
I just think the aesthetic is neat.

>>738764479
Winners write history, retard

>>738758751
>Qing kill a british messenger asking for parlay
>They burn the summer palace in retribution
>Find all the shit various european delegations had gifted the Qing just left lying around
>chinks too proud and self assured to bother with western toys
>Brits capture a dog, call it Looty, give it to Queen Vic
and thats just a footnote