>>738751921 >He works ceaselessly to discover a way to extend the functioning of the human body — whatever the cost Except the cost of a push up. Fat fuck.
>>738751921 >no new Archetype or even Origin in new DLC They should just admit already Rogue Trader is now eating crumbs and all the talent moved to DH and Expanse
>>738760637 You can get a word bearer on your team if you go heretical
He's just barely functioning and can't equip any of the heretical only astartes equipment you've looted across the game. He can summon daemons though, so that's cool
>>738760726 >>738760719 Nigger are you denying me a Blood Raven because of some obscure, unfinished CHAOS space marine that about 13% of the player base will know it exists?
>>738760804 Yes. And even if he didn't exist, we have Ulfar who was shit until several rounds of patching. He'd just be a recolored Ulfar, effectively. Wait until the inevitable owlcat deathwatch game to have two Space marines on the field at once
>>738760924 >He's a recolored Ulfar because he's a Space Marine. Nigger you have servitor tier IQ shut the fuck up. That's like saying all humans are recolors. Stupid nigger.
>>738761072 >A Librarian mechanics are the same as a soldier's mechanics.
That's like saying all regular humans can only have the same mechanics. You really are stupid. Space Marines all have different personalities. A Blood Raven is nothing like a Space Wolfe. Your stupidity is painful. No more (you)s for you.
>>738760990 He's right though. He'd have the same base mechanics as Ulfar and Uralon. The only difference would be what classes they gave the blood raven.
So the only thing to make them stand out would be personality. And as Blood Ravens are mostly codex compliant, you'd get SPACE MARINE tm.
>>738761176 Okay so he'd have a near complete psyker build, that'd probably be shit and set in stone until a round of patches. And would still be shit because that would split his unfixable level ups between his base class, his advanced and whatever psyker trees they give him (Probably fucking divination like idira)
So in all likelyhood, they'd be more shit than Uralon is, but able to actually equip gear
You really don't sound like you've played the game at all
>>738761176 A space marine librarian would be the same as Ulfar with Psyker abilities stapled on. It'd dilute their feats, level ups and spread out their stats too far to be effective or fun to play.
Add on that they'd play like Space Marines do in Rogue Trader, and you'd have the same issues as Ulfar and Uralon. Hard to position due to taking up four fucking squares of space, no real room to adjust their build which would be ass because Owlcat can barely handle a mid to late game partymember's build without making it egregiously shit when they have one area to focus on.
>>738759086 >I want a Space Marine! You're worse than the waifufags. Freeboota would be cool but they'd need to address what the RT is doing about all the spores.
>>738761531 There's only two psykers in the party and both are nothing compared to a librarian in power levels. Like, a wild unsanctioned psyker? Come on.
>>738762027 So make them even more shit by having them take up more space and barely be able to move through levels? I'd pay for that alone if they made a DLC companion a terminator or dreadnaught
>>738762056 Cool. They'd still use the same psyker abilities and at most just give them a boost to their psy rating, which you can easily cheese with Henrix or Idria or an RT psyker and at most would smattering of unique background talents. Just like Ulfar did
>>738761176 >Space Marines all have different personalities. A Blood Raven is nothing like a Space Wolfe. They're always stereotyped as fuck within their chapter. You can say the same about other archetypes, but there's always more breathing room with non-sm. SM characters are boring af most of the time. They're usually cool because of what they can do, not who they are
So DH is going from a RT that has infinite resources + a white check FUCK YOU statement literally written by the Emperor to some cuckisitor in a single backwater planet? lel
>>738762282 >They're always stereotyped as fuck within their chapter. Nigger you can say the same about every single faction in the setting. There's no law preventing the writer from writing a fun personality.
>>738762251 In the tabletop. Yes. In RT, they'd be built off the same framework as every other character and unless Owlcat made a psychic awakening DLC out of the blue, that means they'd get stuck with the same psyker schools and powers. With just some spice to make them stand out from the other, earlier psykers in the party.
And it would be a horrible mess that takes half a year + for Owlcat to make it work right. And would still mostly be stuck in the "BIG 4 YOU" role that Ulfar is stuck in
>>738762389 >In the tabletop. Yes. In RT, they'd be built off the same framework as every other character because I say so and my entire narrative depends on it
>>738762415 Because that's how the other space marines are built? How every party member is made? Uralon is an officer and master tactician. Ulfar Soldier and Archmilitant.
A theoretical Librarian would be built like any other character, jackass. Which is really bad for them, cause you wouldn't be able to undo the Owlcat shit build they got shouldered with, cause for whatever reason, they only let you re-talent their level ups after they join the party
>>738762370 As I said, there's always more breathing room with non-SM chars. SM is always "tough guy, loyal to emp, 'ate xenos, 'ate chaos, _insert chapter specifications here_, _insert background story that changes nothing about who they are here_,". Now if you added a pinch of HERESY, now we'd be talking.
>>738762553 >Because that's how the other space marines are built? >There's two >Both share same class >one is ultra secret and only avaliable at the very end of the game BTW
>>738762415 And what, you think Owlcat would make an entirely new, seperate class and level up system for one character? No. They'd shit out a half functional librarian, spend months patching them to work, and they'd be less effective than a properly built Idira or Henrix (Just like Ulfar is compared to Abelard or Argenta)
Nigga what? They don't share a single class. All the share is that they're space marines, and the Librarian you're crying about, would also share the same mechanics as them and every npc Spacemarine in rogue trader
Should I wait before I start my second playthrough? I have the DLCs installed for my second run but debating if I should wait for DLC 3 to release before starting. Was gonna do Dogmatic as I finished Iconoclast.
>>738762735 >So you don't even play the game, huh? No, Anon. I didn't unlock the ultra secret heretic character. There is literally no reason to play a heretic character because the heretic path is unfinished, might as well not be there.
>>738762282 You mean like how the psyker is the weirdo, Abelard is the serious guy, the tech priest is the autistic tech man, the elf is an elf, and the dark elf is a dark elf?
If anything Ulfar being a viking stereotype instead of the typical serious religious Ultramarine or Dark Angel or Blood Raven (don't fucking kid yourself the Blood Ravens are just Ultramarines with different background and red paint, personality-wise they're the fucking same) was somewhat out of the ordinary for a 40K cast since he isn't blathering about for the emperor emperor protects every five seconds
If they ever make another SM companion, it should be one of the obscure ones like the chapter who eat the flesh of their enemies or just make shit up for literal whos like The Celebrants
>>738762672 >share the same mechanics What mechanics? Occupying more spaces? Okay? What else? What mechanics are you people even talking about? Why would a librarian have the same mechanics as a non-caster? This makes no sense. They can't have the same spells as Henrix or the nigger because they use different spells, Anon. Spells aren't difficult to code.
>>738757189 >Idira Ignored >Argenta Insulted >Jae Insulted >Cassia Treats her like an elderly gentleman, is happy if you and her have a good relationship. >Yrliet Dissected on a lab table while being kept alive to both maximize her agony while also testing the extent of Aeldari resilience >Kibellah Ignored.
>>738762863 And henrix and Idira shouldn't have access to the same spells cause one is unsactioned. They'd have the same mechanics as any other psyker, at most a staff that gives them 1 special power and some gimmicky feats, but they'd play exactly the same as a buffed up Henrix/ Idira/ RT otherwise
>>738762881 >Trying to cover your ass now? You made it blatantly clear you didn't play the game if you think Soldier and Officer are the same class. I just said I didn't know his class. I still don't know why you are talking about his class. Okay, soldier and officer are different. Your point being? A psyker is not a soldier or an officer. I fail to see where you are going.
>>738762863 Psyker mechanics. They'd play like a psyker with one or two extra goodies. Just like Ulfar plays like a soldier with a few unique talents, that really don't change how he plays all that much
>>738763147 Yeah but unlike a Space Marine, an ork would be new. Instead of just having another space marine, from a codex compliant chapter. Cause remember, Blood Magpies is an old ass meme and doesn't reflect canon, at all
>>738760804 >Nigger are you denying me a Blood Raven because of some obscure, unfinished CHAOS space marine that about 13% of the player base will know it exists? YES YOU FUCKING RETARDED NORMALFAG
>>738757596 They're saving all the good concepts (Catachan, Kroot, Ogryn) for their Dark Heresy shit. Watch Dark Heresy give us a Seraphim as a romance option.
>>738758248 This. They probably wanted to do a quirky Trazyn copy and GW threw a hissy fit.
>>738758269 The difference between a Pronatus acting as a Retributor or Dominion and a Famulous acting as a Seraphim or Sacresanct would be bigger than the difference between a Genetor Manipulus and a Explorator Engineseer.
Come to think of it, why the fuck is Argenta a Pronatus without a relic to protect when a Famulous assigned to oversee the succession of a Rogue Trader bloodline would make so much more sense?
>>738763449 Tau are more interesting than a codex compliant space marine, desu. Especially if they're from the xenophobic sphere that's gotten introduced
>>738758892 A votann would require GW to let another company write lore for them since they basically have nothing. 10th edition codex just reprinted the 9th edition lore and their one BL book is terrible.
>>738763407 I mean, depriving yourself of all the best party members, right before the combat slog that is the last act, is certainly a choice. Especially to replace them with a steaming pile of dog shit like Uralon
>>738763386 Cause she 1: got lost in the warp and the relic she was supposed to protect, already got enshrined and 2: Sought another relic before Theodora fucked her via one of the many cults she funded
I'm morbidly curious to see how Owlcat would write a Black Crusade game. I know the mutations/ gift of the gods tables wouldn't get be put in in all their glory, but I'd like to see how they do their gay little alignment thing with the evil chaos game
>>738764245 I remember reading the magazine interview where they were talking about a new class a year I remember them talking about how they could totally do a Skitarii if they wanted to. Where the FUCK is my Skitarii? I'd love to stop playing Zealot. Where the FUCK is the Skitarii?
Also >>738751921 >not only is it another admech, it's a fatass admech Get this fucking thing away from me. Where the fuck is the Kroot?
>>738763631 He's a manipulus, they have either anti grav or maglev augments, I forget which but as far as gameplay is concerned there is functionally no difference. He a floaty boi.
>>738763576 tau have cool guns. it's lame that the game about the one kind of imperial that gets to play with xenos weaponry doesn't have anything but elfdar guns.
>>738775691 thanks anon, this settles it I got the game long ago and never played it for the same reason I miss the days when complete games were released
>>738775785 if you haven't played it like at all, one playthrough with 2 (or 3 with this one) is a pretty meaty playthrough.. but at the same time, might as well wait until september for all 4 dlc's and updates
>>738775861 4th dlc sounds like Treasure of The Midnight Isles from wrath. Basically a gauntlet with no real story, where you go from area to area just fighting.
>>738764360 Not gonna happen, Owlshit devs spend all their time on reddit, and everytime someone mentions Black Crusade you have legions of faggots screeching that they dont wanna play ebil Trumps in space, its the same when someone writes that he wants Star Wars game from Empire perspective.
>>738777224 >Basically a gauntlet with no real story, where you go from area to area just fighting. That sounds awful. Can’t they just kill me irl instead?
>like normal dlc's where you enter the dlc hub/realm and just do all the dlc content and finish the content >RT dlc is scattered across the story >amazing for a first playthrough >absolutely awful for followup playthroughs and just bloats the campaign i loved it so much during my first playthrough but now i dread it on followup, its so weird
>>738777224 I actually liked the Tenebrious Depths in Kingmaker. I think it ticked some Diablo 1 switch in my brain, descending a singular mysterious dungeon. But the Midnight Isles were such a fucking slog to me.
Whilst I do like the motherboard humpers, I really thought it would be an ork or some secret Chaos cultist. It still feels really weird going for a heretic playthrough when you only really get to cut loose near the final part, the fact that Uralon and whatshisface Khorne guy are locked in the beginning of the end is very annoying. I'm not even sure what could be added to the game to make the chaos element better, without fucking with the plot and experience, besides some 'in the know' aspiring chaos champion by your side. It wouldn't even have to be a cute girl as I already have my Kibbles for a Chaos run. Having to go Undivided yet also be Tzeentchian is also annoying, I don't mind being bird brained but it's kind of lame my ship doesn't follow suit and go all magical instead of the murderdeathblood cliche of the indecisive undecided undivided. Some agency in the décor would be nice.
>>738779246 Technically every companion has a heretical twist to them based on what dialogue options you steer toward. That said losing a good portion of your retinue in exchange for Uralol, Angry League of Legends and Mr 'I can fix him' (though to be honest who actually cares about Ulfar and Yrliet?) isn't much of a trade. Having dedicated specilisations based on the four Chaos paths would be nice, but they probably went Undivided (with a Tzeentchian twist because it's always actually just Tzeentch) to make the Cult of Final Dawn thing stick.
What also bothers me is how blatant you can be with corruption at certain points. >"Pasqal I want that Forgefiend."
I really want an Alpha Legion companions. Those guys are fucking insane and most diverse group among the traitor legion. If not, maybe a Fallen would be cool.
>rogue traders are THE people who have a reputation for fraternising with xenos >owlcat give us two flavours of elder, one who is a poorly written retard >DH has revealed only a handful of companions and they already have more diverse xenos
>>738786663 >>DH has revealed only a handful of companions and they already have more diverse xenos It's just those two, better than two elves but not by much
>>738786663 Even better >Trazyn's vault could give us literally anything >we get a fat admech >for the three people who wanted it, they can't even romance it
>>738785276 Alpha Legion companion would just gaslight your entire bridge crew for 60 hours and then reveal he was actually three different guys depending on which dialogue flag you picked.
But yeah, unironically that’d be kino. Sneaky bastard who “helps” you while secretly running nine contradictory schemes, occasionally saves your life for no obvious reason, constantly implies he’s actually loyal to Big E (or is he???). Way more interesting than another brooding loyalist with daddy issues.
Fallen would be comfy too though. Imagine the Dark Angels seething every time you dock at a port while your totally-not-a-traitor marine is in the cargo hold like
Owlcat won’t do it because that would require them to let us have actual fun instead of another space elf therapy session.
>>738790554 Retard GW cocksucker dipshit opinion. The ONLY reason for those name changes was copyright law, nothing else. It is entirely out of universe reasoning.
>for all their glitches and bullshit, their Pathfinder games were their magnum opuses >Rogue Trader had the same jank, inconsistent writing and 2007 era UX, but with way less content, replayability and autism >they'll never ever make a Warhammer Fantasy game in the scale of Wrath because 40k is more profitable >and they're ditching GW for the goddamn Expanse as if anyone cares for that setting Grim prospects.
>>738786931 And no fucking Rak'gol, a crime. I've come to peace with the fact that the actually interesting bits of 40k worldbuilding, the fluff you're supposed to use to spice up your own armies and battles, are all going to be flushed, because GW wants to make it into Star Wars Marvel shit with the same capeshit named superheroes appearing all the time and everything revolving around them. And the sad part is that it's working. >>738786663 I don't want to blame Owlcat for this specifically, I believe they had GW breathing down their neck because the same shit happened with Darktide. The bread and butter of Vermintide was the concept of a ragtag group of what would have been enemies united against a bigger threat, Darktide is like they closed their eyes and made a random kill team from tossed Imperium minis. Next class will be a fucking Navigator at this point.
>>738790971 Nigger, I dislike those names because I am older than they are. I see them as retarded and pointless revisions to the setting I have been engaged in since 2008 or someshit. I didn't start collecting "aeldari". I started collecting Eldar back in the day.
>>738790835 I don't even know what the fuck the Expanse is, but aren't people saying the beta or alpha or whatever for the game was terrible as well? So it's an ip very few people give a fuck about and probably gonna be a shit game? This means we will inevitably get another 40k game from owlcat to try and recoup their loses after the expanse fails right? Can I hope for a Black Crusade game after all?
>>738791521 Oh wow, another grognard whining about progress. "Back in my day" isn't the flex you think it is, Anon. The name changes are *fine*—they're just bringing the lore in line with modern IP standards. But I get it, change is scary when your entire personality is wrapped up in plastic soldiers from 2008.
And let's be real, if you were *actually* good at the game, you'd adapt instead of crying about semantics. But hey, keep malding over nomenclature while I crush your ""Eldar"" with my Primaris intercessors. You DO still play, right? Or did GW "ruin" that for you too?
>>738780741 >type out a large and honest effort post about how the game succeeds and fails to present Chaos corruption >go in to detail about how each God are represented and how that could be done better >finish off with a specific example of an easy to implement nod to Slaanesh >reply gets deleted as I am typing it, probably by hitting the wrong key which selected all the text and voided it THE WARP CURSES ME THE WARP CURSES ME THE WARP CURSES ME low effort interpretation of my Slaanesh point = give option to have personal attendants/guards be women to allow for gooner gaddafi rp, simple nod and wink without going into depth yet everyone gets the point
>>738791858 >low effort interpretation of my Slaanesh point = give option to have personal attendants/guards be women to allow for gooner gaddafi rp, simple nod and wink without going into depth yet everyone gets the point Sorry anon to based and still to much implied sexuality for modern gw. You will have your demonic god of murder orgies without the orgies and you will like it.
>>738792019 Considering he is baiting the autist who thinks people wanting an Eldar female romance that doesn't suck is the same as people spamming blacked faggotry. I think it's great, may bait-kuns Primaris intercessors crush Noldorfags #1 fan
>>738792351 You know exactly what I'm talking about fren. You do know threads archive right? I can probably find your exact post to share with the class.
>>738792019 >>738791832 Oh wow, accusing me of being an AI? That's rich coming from someone whose entire personality is "grumpy old man yells at codex changes." Maybe if you spent half as much time learning current rules as you do malding about them, you wouldn't need to cope this hard when your 4th edition tactics get stomped by actual competitive play.
>>738791521 They were needed and improved the setting by making it more immersive, just like changing names of Eldar Dreadnoughts and Eldar weapons was to distinguish them from Imperial stuff
>>738792725 Not everyone is engaged or aware of whatever retarded multi thread long shitposting conflicts you are waging.
Disliking the pointless name changes GW did just for copyright reasons isn't a fringe opinion in the first place, so I don't know what the hell your issue even is. There are plenty of people who refuse to call the Imperial Guard "astra militarum" or the Tau "T'au" etc retarded shit.
>>738792917 Calling Eldar Dreadnaughts Wraithlords is far more substantive and in universe thematic change given the actual different nature of Wraithlords when compared to dreadnaughts. That change stemmed from in universe reasoning, whereas the change of Eldar to "Aeldari" is solely due to copyright reasons. GW couldn't copyright Eldar, but they can copyright "aeldari". Same reason why everything in age of sigmar has such attrocious names. Also, the term Eldar sounds far better than "aeldari" which sounds exactly what it is, a hackeyed attempt of using the term eldar with a few tweaks.
Just like calling elves "aelves" or Orks "orruks" someshit like that. It is cringe and gay. Just call them what they are and have always been known as.
>>738792050 I even included that issue in my post before it got wiped, fortune pisses on me. It really is astounding how much gw and owlfuck are both vulgar to the point of gimic yet terrified of a tit.
>>738793223 Oh, here we go—the "copyright cope" strikes again! Yeah, GW wants to protect their IP, shocker. Meanwhile, you're out here malding about *trademark law* like it personally kicked your dog. Newsflash: "Aeldari" rolls off the tongue better once you stop being a basement-dwelling contrarian.
>>738793017 Oh wow, the "copyright cope" brigade is out in full force today! Newsflash: GW owns the IP, they can call them whatever they want. Your nostalgia doesn’t make "Eldar" any less dumb. But sure, keep screeching about "Astra Militarum" like anyone cares about your headcanon. Meanwhile, my fully updated GT-tier competitive lists are busy winning games while you’re still fielding that sad mix of 3rd edition proxies and recasts. Tell me, how’s that "refusing to adapt" strategy working out for you? What's that, you haven't even played the game for 9 years? Then shut up.
>>738794079 Wow, classic deflection. Can't handle the discussion, so you resort to calling it "gay roleplay." Real mature. Maybe if you spent less time whining about nomenclature and more time learning the actual rules, you wouldn't get stomped every game.
>>738793017 And FYI, the T'au apostrophe was in the lore since 3rd edition, dumbass. Maybe if you actually read the codices instead of crying online about "muh traditions," you'd know basic shit. But nah, easier to screech "reeee corporate changes" like a brainlet. Pathetic.
>>738794079 Your brain's as smooth as your winrate. Typical IG player coping about "muh fluff" when your army's been trash-tier since 8th edition. Maybe if you spent less time malding over apostrophes and more time learning how to screen your backline, you wouldn't get tabled turn three by anyone with more than two brain cells.
And lmao at pretending you're above roleplay while sperging out over fake spacemen names. You're the one who brought up copyright law like some kind of nerd, dumbass. Next you'll tell me Eldar should still be called "Space Elves" like it's 1987. Get with the times or get lost.
>>738794470 classic fucking cope from the guy who can’t even understand basic copyright law. You’re just mad because your shitty faction got squatted and now you’ve got nothing to jerk off to except outdated memes. Go cry about it in your Discord echo chamber with the other contrarians whining about how Guilliman is “Mary Sue trash” while losing to Ultramarines every week
>>738794346 You can't. There are some rumors that Argenta was supposed to be romanceable but it was vetoed by GW. In general her story just kind of stops by the third act and it seems like she was kind of half baked.
>>738794703 Well that's fucking gay >B-but muh lore Fuck GW or whatever because even the IP holders can't figure out their own lore or even keep it consistent. Let me romance the hot bolter babes.
>>738794748 Holy shit, the cope is reaching critical mass. You're literally the guy who cries about "muh primarchs" while getting cucked by basic intercessor squads every game night. Maybe if you spent less time fantasizing about schizos and more time learning how to play, you wouldn't need to mald this hard over a fucking apostrophe in a fictional alien language. And let's be real—you're only this mad because your wife's Tau player boyfriend keeps beating you with a single Crisis suit while explaining how your deployment was trash. But sure, I'm the schizo here. Classic.
>>738793223 Eldar are low effort copy paste job. It's even worse with cringe name like Dark Eldar, instead of something more immersive. Adding campy Dark prefix is never acceptable. Aeldari, Asuryani, Drukhari, Anhrathe, Rillietann - this is fitting ancient elf species
It's even more important for Imperial factions. Imperial Guard and Space Marines were terrrible, terrible names. Giving them proper faux latin, thematic, immersive name was a great improvement. And settings should be improved
>>738794830 There is nothing in the lore that says that Sisters have to be chaste. It propably is just more of GW company policy to not further encourage the notion of Sisters of Battle being the designated "waifu" faction.
>>738794890 The sisters whole purpose was to be coom bait from their conception Retconning them into space nuns is just typical Gays Wokeslop pozzing up their own franchise once again. Give it 10 years before they reach Wizards of the Coast levels of unbearable
Coming up with "novel/new" names for things people have had terminology for already usually just leads to hacky and pointless names nobody actually bothers to use, as we actually see in most of 40k fanbase. People generally do not call the IG or Spesh Muhreens with their "official names", just like most people don't call the craftworld Eldar "assuriani" or the Dark Eldar "drukhari" etc.
>>738794890 Fair enough I guess, but as a tourist I hate it. But the eldar or tau, yeah they're okay right, but not the nuns with guns. Fuck them brits or wherever GW is from.
>>738795162 Next you'll tell me "most people" still call Necrons "Chaos Androids" because some grandpa at your FLGS does. Newsflash, dumbass: GW's IP team doesn't give a shit about your nostalgia-brained "muh terminology" cope. The Aeldari rebrand was objectively necessary after the copyright disputes, anyone still saying "Eldar" might as well hold up a sign saying "I get my lore from 4chan shitposts." And lmao at pretending this is some deep principle, you'd gargle GW's nuts if they released a Guard codex that wasn't dogwater. But nah, keep malding over Asuryani while your "totally not Astra Militarum" infantry blobs get wiped by a single Custodes bike.
>>738795226 GW has done nothing to support the notion of tau being a waifu faction either. The whole tau waifu bs is entirely fandom driven meme, with zero support in the actual lore or official art. Officially we don't even know if tau women have tits.
With Eldar, GW is kind of in an akward position of both trying to emphasize the alien nature of the Eldar, but also tied to the core element of the Eldar being essentially just elves in space, with the associated tropes tied to them like being fair and beautiful looking.
>>738795350 >anyone still saying "Eldar" might as well hold up a sign saying "I get my lore from 4chan shitposts." you're mindbroken lil nigga, everyone calls them eldar
>>738795430 That is just fanwank. Yvraine and Guilliman met once when Guilliman was brought back to the setting, and then GW proceeded to throw Yvraine and the whole ynnari plotline under the buss because they scrapped the whole "lets squat Slaanesh" bs the entire Ynnari plotline was building up to. In the newest Eldar codex all the former allies of Yvraine have abandoned her and she basically just leads a fanatical eldar deathcult.
>>738795404 these people have never owned one mini in their life lol. they've never read one warhammer book. somehow they play rogue trader and consider themselves experts while saying wrong shit.
>>738795519 Ohhhh fuck, you actually went digging for a GW community post like some kind of lore-lawyer? Jesus Christ, talk about desperate. Yeah no shit they say "Space Marines" in marketing, even GW knows calling them "Adeptus Astartes" in every sentence would make their articles read like a fucking tax code. But guess what, dumbass? The rules still say Adeptus Astartes, the datasheets still say Adeptus Astartes, and the copyright filings sure as shit say Adeptus Astartes. Keep coping though. And lmao at you thinking this is some "gotcha", next you'll tell me GW still says "Imperial Guard" in old White Dwarf PDFs. Newsflash: the game moved on, and so did everyone who isn't a terminally online grognard. But hey, at least your insistence on outdated names matches your outdated tactics. Stay losing.
>>738795143 It's more due to GW becoming more and more sanitized and corporate. The sex and rock and roll elements of early 40k had to be filed away so that lil Timmy's mom and dad are willing to buy the expensive plastic speshmen for their autistic spawn.
>>738795657 pulling out the "fanwank" card because you can't handle basic narrative progression? Yvraine and Guilliman's dynamic was objectively the most interesting thing to happen to Eldar lore since the Fall, anyone still malding about it is just salty their headcanon didn't pan out. And lmao at acting like GW "threw her under the bus" when the Ynnari still have rules, dumbass. Maybe if your Eldar army didn't suck, you'd actually use them instead of crying about "muh grimdark" on Reddit. And the deathcult angle is way more grimdark than some cheesy "let's kill Slaanesh" plot, but I wouldn't expect a lorelet like you to understand subtlety.
>>738795430 They don't like each other, don't interact with each other and on a farewell Yvraine told him she can reverse her sorcery and make him dead again if he gets uppity. Her fanfiction character from porn art has zero correlation to her actual lore
There is zero waifubait flavor in Tau as well. They aren't twileks/asari. It's, again, completely made up fanfiction by fanbase
>>738795797 The most official support for the notion of "pretty" tau women is in the exodite animation and even in it the female tau are just flat chested with not even a hint of them having tits.
there's another dlc coming after the fat mechanicus guy, isn't there? i think i read that.
man, i wonder if i should just wait for the last one to come out before starting a new game. i want to go full dogmatic on my next one, i got raped up the ass repeatedly as iconoclast.
>>738751921 I don't understand how they made a game about being a rogue trader and then had barely any xenos companions, more leeway with xenos is what defines a rogue traders story potential, I guess with doing inquisitors next there's also some leeway there but it's just not the same, and aren't you just a leader in an inquisitors retinue rather than the actual inquisitor? So less leeway still.
>>738795967 >and aren't you just a leader in an inquisitors retinue rather than the actual inquisitor? just like how you were just a baron and not an actual king? it's an owlcat game
>>738795967 its still not smart to surround yourself with them. just look at the one knife ear on the crew, she's constantly fucking crying and talking shit about you, then gets you imprisoned by dark eldar. rogue traders keep them as essentially pets, having too many is a liability.
>>738795797 Guilliman and Yvraine had more chemistry in one scene than your entire Craftworld's lore has in ten editions. And lmao at pretending her threat was serious—that's just Eldar for "uwu notice me senpai." But sure, keep malding about "porn art" while your army's biggest contribution to the lore is getting farmed for memes about losing to Guardsmen. And holy shit, bringing up Tau like anyone cares? They're the faction for people who think spreadsheets are personality traits. At least Yvraine exists in the narrative—your "totally not weeaboo space communists" haven't done shit since Farsight's last midlife crisis.
>>738795934 The commoragh part in Rogue Trader was my favorite segment in it. I wish that there was a 40k rpg focused entirely on Commoragh. The Dark Eldar are such fucked up freaks and that place is one of the most interesting locations within the entire setting. There is tons of potential for a game set within the Dark City.
>>738795934 Yes I fully expect Redditzyn dlc to make game worse honestly. I think in hindsight people will realize that the winning move all along was to play after Lex and before Infinite Museion. People who autistically wait until all dlcs are out to have "full game" will cuck themselves out of a better experience.
>>738796196 I'm currently waiting because I'm foolishly hoping that they add fleet management and planetary colonization, which are two features of the tabletop game I really enjoyed. What do you think they'll fuck up with this DLC?
Damn, a single admech has broken incels harder than Yrliet could ever hope to >i-i-i-it's not about waifus i just want a xeno lol, ok, you're not fooling anyone, waifunigger
>>738795967 GW forced them to move timeline to Indomitus era. By that point Koronus Expanse is explored already. There is no room for you to be a space conquistador, discovering new worlds and colonizing them anymore
GW didn't allow Owlcat to make use of any RPG/minor fluff xenos without models either. Probably GW didn't trust Owlcat enough yet, like they do with CA, Fatshark and Relic. This meant that Owlcat wasn't actually allowed to properly depict RT setting and interacting with unknown Xenos and civilizations
Ironically, this sort of stuff may actually show up in Dark Heresy since Owlcat is "trusted" now. They honestly should have started with Dark Heresy and make Rogue Trader as a second game instead.
>>738796441 i'd like to just get a flagship that isn't a fucking frigate that somehow has a rail system inside it and as much empty room as a grand cruiser.
>>738796121 >Guilliman and Yvraine had more chemistry WRONG Guilliman belongs to Illiyan Nastase, the Aeldari ambassador, who had been sucking his primarch cock due to imperial food being horrible.
>>738796914 n-n-no don't say aeldari, you have to say the official name from the official paperwork, or you'll set off the thread autist! apparently nobody says aeldari, man.
>>738796667 Nobody likes or gives a shit about rogue trader. Owlkeks never wanted to make a rogue trader game. Dark Heresy has always been their goal. Unfortunately for them Dark Heresy is a well liked setting, so they were forced to "practice" on a setting nobody gives a shit about first. There is no timeline in which you get a good rogue trader game because that was never the endgoal - merely a stepping stone to what they actually wanted to do
>>738796441 For one atmosphere. Even Void Shadows and Lex Imperialis added a lot of out of place, marvel style quips. Base game was really refreshing compared to most of c/arpgs, actually being dry and treating itself seriously no matter how fantastical, exaggerated and grimdark things were happening on screen, with characters never coming out of their role. There was legitimately a handful at most of quips in the game, most tied to Jae at that Come dlcs and now you have some meme bathing or clerk calling Cassia a fish and shit like this. And Trazyn has a reputation of such character
Then they will fuck up pacing even further. And dlc doesn't seem to add anything of value unlike previous two. No archetypes, no origins, companion is already bad etc
>>738797009 WFRP is its own thing unrelated to TOW which has it's own RPG system but basically everything Owlcat could create outside of small monsters has a model already
>>738796343 >>738797116 lmao at acting like this is some kind of rebellion. GW's lawyers don't give a shit what you and your "buddies" say in your mom's basement. The real schizo move is pretending words matter when your army's winrate is lower than your social skills. Stay delusional though
>>738786663 >rogue traders are THE people who have a reputation for fraternising with xenos That doesn't mean Rogue Traders are known to have more than 3 Xenos in their retinue.
Also Rogue Traders are also known to lead Astartes. Where's my fucking temporary mission where I get to lead some space marines?
Skulls event got announced for the end of the month, looks like it will have RT and DH stuff in the preview >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Xmj2x5V8A
>>738797084 >Even Void Shadows and Lex Imperialis added a lot of out of place, marvel style quips Are the marvel style quips in the room with us right now? >anon so mad at tfwn waifu he tries to gaslight people into thinking that the first two dlcs are bad This is gonna work, I'm sure
>>738791257 >I don't want to blame Owlcat for this specifically, I believe they had GW breathing down their neck because the same shit happened with Darktide. maybe they shouldn't partner with oppressive IP holders oh wait, they actually love being told what to do, which is why all of their games have been from previously established IPs and why they seem very uninterested in making their own original IP
>>738797480 It's okay, very jank and does a bad job explaining some of its more esoteric rules like suppression. Huge plus is that it's the only competitive warhammer game I've ever seen where the devs are unabashed orkaboos when it comes to balance. I'd really only go for it if you've got buddies who are interested in playing the multiplayer.
>>738760924 >Ulfar who was shit until several rounds of patching Ulfar is STILL shit btw he will never be a good character mechanically. He's so fucking scuffed its funny. RT isn't a hard game but like, if you take Ulfar you are just making the game harder for yourself.
>>738762676 Wait till Day of Skulls on 22nd? Theyll probably announce a release date and other features for DLC. If they don't announce any new origins or archetypes or other stuff thats only accessible to new characters, just start it and you can start DLC during the actual game. Fat nigga probably wont be available until later in the game anyways.
>>738798491 I replayed the game in October so unless they gave him a super massive buff since then as far as damage dealers go he's outclassed by Kibbles and Argenta still. >>738798554 Sadly. I don't even mind Space wolves.
>>738798760 Yes and she's still better than Ulfar is my point. The balance of RT is fucked either way though. You can take Ulfar if you want but he's not really a win more character when the game has a ton of win more characters.
i'm surprised people like lex imperialis solomourne is such a bland fucking character and i swear the first 3rd of his lines when he's being introduced the voice actor talks like a retard and emphasizes random words for no reason and i'm not sure why he suddenly stops, maybe someone in the recording booth finally told him to stop also the ending of the thassera quest is retarded like his whole plan was just "yeah blow up the altar" with no way of knowing that'd actually help the RT swap back to their body and if you ask him about it he just says something like "well it looked important"
>>738799405 It's being releaed before Skulls >Kasedo and Bulwark Studios, the team behind Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus 2, have announced today that the long-awaited sequel will be released with Skulls next week on PC, Xbox and PlayStation on 21 May.
>>738799439 >like his whole plan was just "yeah blow up the altar" with no way of knowing that'd actually help the RT swap back to their body and if you ask him about it he just says something like "well it looked important" This is what any based imperial chud would do though
>>738799439 I liked the feudal world subplot and the ace attorney part. Solomourne himself sucks but in an inoffensively boring way. My RT was an Arbite so felt redundant dragging him around, benched asap and just ignored him the rest of the playthrough.
>>738799645 >Weird there's no Total Warhammer 40k. they just did vlog and probably still have nothing meaningful to show. They said they will show something by the end of june
>>738799645 They will probably still talk about and show off some of Total War 40k. It's gonna be the biggest 40k related money farm for GW outside of the tabletop itself. So GW will definitely want them to shill it somewhat at skulls. They probably just used the Warhammer 3 logo since the Nagash dlc is most likely gonna be the main focus of their showcase.
>>738800346 >take a woman >strip her of any armour >send her against a seven foot tall human gorilla >this one in particular is a tard with rabies Genuinely what was the plan here?
>>738801315 Doesn’t really make sense to keep an unsactioned psyker around and Heinrix does everything she does but better. Executed at the earliest opportunity every playthrough and never thought about again.
>>738801315 I've said it before, I'll say it again. She should have been made to look like a sexy voodoo witch and be romanceable. Then she would be 10/10 and everyone would love her.
I'm probably one of the few people who like her though, she's not perfect, but is an alright representative of the average schizo psyker. The occasional precognition dialogues she has in the game that let you know when shits about to go down is neat. Also her randomly summoning daemons in fights is FUN.
even without waiting for DLCs you should still wait 2-3 years for games like this, the amount of bugs at RT's release was just unacceptable even if the game had a fine amount of content.
>>738803745 Except it's not a movie and you're mostly free to approach it in whatever order you want and even ignore it, the only big fuck up I'd say is that they shouldn't have put so much in Act 1 that overlevels you for Aurora which they've already tried to reduce, other than that the balance was fucked from the start
>>738805149 You can respec your RT and companions later so don’t sweat fucking your build up too much. Game is easy so just pick whatever sounds cool to you.
>>738803745 no owlcat game has had even a tiny bit of balance so who cares the dlc for kingmaker were garbage outside of the one that added the goats and they kept trying to add the same useless mini campaigns in wotr until they finally made proper dlc that integrate into the game for rogue trader and you start bitching lmao
>>738805389 >>738805325 I want more content just not more bloating of the main campaign acts. Make side stories, post game, whatever. But you retards keep voting for more shit to put in the same acts, more forced DLC start cutscenes, more million things to do in the same act, more extra levels and loot to make you even more OP, more side villains that don't matter, more bloat, more shit. The structure of the game is buckling under all this extra garbage. There's more side content to do than main quest planets. It's just terrible from a narrative and pacing pov.
>>738805814 >There's more side content to do than main quest planets That's a good thing, the whole appeal of being a Rogue Trader, at least for me, is the variety of situations that you can be a part of whereas other 40K games are just going to be about constant war. The more content they add that is just an excuse to see something new the better as far as I'm concerned, which they can't do if they have to force it into the main plot. As for the balance I agree but it was already fucked from the beginning, they'd need to overhaul everything at this point, 55 levels is way too much variance
>>738806004 >fuck off nobody wants this everyone with an understanding of pacing and narrative structure wants this only teenage retards like you want more bloat
>>738806134 it took 2 whole games of people telling them to stop making shitty side campaigns nobody plays and add the content to the main game instead and now everyone but your contrarian ass loves it
>>738758102 Heretic romance is bugged to shit with Marzipan. It wasn’t “removed”, the game is so buggy that the flags are messed up and you don’t even get a romance slide if you did it properly.
>>738806356 exactly my point, you retards have no taste, exact same kind of people who think LoTR extended cuts are better movies because they have more scenes
>>738805985 >>738805985 Officer is the most broken archetype in the game, though. Can easily nuke the entire screen in a single round with two or more officers in the party as their momentum heroic act gives an entire full turn.
>>738805814 the problem isn't where the dlc is but the quality of it
varnhold was a good side campaign the from ashes were not the kibellah dlc is absolutely excellent even though it adds midgame bloat, but the dance of masks was utter dogshit, so was inevitable excess
if they could simply keep quality consistent it wouldnt matter
>>738806648 >people who think LoTR extended cuts are better movies because they have more scenes they are better though the only negative is having an hour+ of ents talking shit in the woods but the second movie is the weakest of the 3 anyway no matter the cut
>>738807137 I would have rather preferred they were done with this one first really, I can't help but think both games will end up suffering because of it, still I hope it ends up being as Wrath was to Kingmaker
