>>565850403
I knew I should have checked the thread, ah well, let's hope this one lasts longer.

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>>565850403
For some reason there has been an increse in activity in /vg/ compared to february and march this year, it will be a bit harder for /rlg/ to stay alive like this.

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>>565850403
>LUZH is a traditional roguelike stripped down to its bare bones — no loot, no leveling, no procedural maps. Two characters. Fixed skills. A grid. And enemies that will kill you.
Huh, wonder if it's any good.

I wonder what happened to that anon who was developing a roguelike. I remember his game had spear traps that thrusted in and out and you had to avoid them, for some reason it's the one thing that stuck with me.

>>565861784
I'm still working on it.
There were a large detour from the original vision and I had to massive rewrites for it.

>Proper proc gen to support quests
>you play as a party of 4
>class system (goal is to encourage class mixing; i.e. proper fighter/mage and not just having a dedicated 3rd class called magus)
>arpg item randomisation

Since you mentioned the spear traps, I'm actually quite split on it returning, since it's cute when you control 1 character but in a tight corridor of 4 characters it's a massive pain (which might be the goal, who knows, but it's not a priority)

>>565855593
the karmic price of rejecting Prophet Terry is steep

I'm not sure I like the change to CDDA where you can't toggle skill gain anymore. On the one hand it makes gameplay a bit more seamless, but on the other hand there was some skill expression to understanding when to turn off certain combat skills

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>>565869323
>I'm not sure I like ... CDDA .. anymore
Many such cases!

bump

>>565850403
>Caves of Qud
So if 2-armed multiweapon fighting is worse than single weapon fighting, even when using a long/short blade combo, just how wide of a gap in power are we talking about?

>>565865134
RIP King Terry, may he be riding elephants with God in heaven

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I figured out how to beat Horror Giant with a melee build.

>>565874601
Single Weapon Fighting at max rank gives you 2 attacks with your main hand every time you bump into the enemy. Multiweapon Fighting gives you 100% chance for your main hand attack and a 65% chance for each offhand to attack. That's 1.65 average attacks with 2 hands, 2.30 attacks with 3 hands, 2.95 attacks with 4 hands, etc.

Single Weapon Fighting also gives you 1 penetration guaranteed on every attack. Basically you get to roll damage guaranteed on every attack, even if the enemy's armor is too high.

>>565878492
Fair points. Is it worth having a shield, or should I go all in with a two-hander?

>>565880339
>Is it worth having a shield, or should I go all in with a two-hander?
Do what your heart tells youto do. Ideally you probably want Giant Hands and do both. I dunno if all characters have access to that or not though.

Roguè

>>565883065
Maybe I'll pick up a second set of arms at some point, use a two-hander, a shield, and a dagger so I can swing my big fuckoff stick, block shit and shield wall, and still rejoinder and/or flurry by blowing every single skill point ever on this shit

What's the best version of Rogue to play?

>>565885039
There is a back slot item specifically meant to give you extra hands so even True Kin can do it.

Are wings fun or so busted it ruins the game in Qud?

>>565890673
They're kinda busted but only on the surface. They don't work underground.

>>565855593
More gacha shitters

>>565892071
Wings or Electrical Generation at game start?

>>565885253
I'm fond of the Amiga version for the lovely tile set, but there's a port of all the DOS and Unix versions out there

>>565892780
https://www.qudzoo.com/advice/mutations

>>565892780
Wings are great to breeze through the early game
You just need some levels for perfect flight and the world is your oyster

Any roguelikes with prose/writing as good as Qud's? I find the descriptions of things very pleasant to read and super immersive in Qud.

>>565900986
Infra Arcana

Imagine how boring nethack would be with saves

Man, Golgotha was so much simpler than I thought it was going to be

>>565908743
saves take the thrill out of it

huh

>>565900986
I hope this post was sarcastic. It's so difficult to tell with all the blatant Qud shilling going on recently for the past few months.

>>565927351
It was not bait/sarcasm. What about Qud's writing do you not like?

>Qud
>pick Herman as my "pet"
>have him tag along with me for a little bit
>get worried about losing him
>park him at Joppa forever
How easy is it to lose followers in CoQ? I'm getting paranoid about my normal human friend becoming lost in the caves or being left behind if I use a recoiler.

>>565939479
I think when they die, they're dead.

>>565941000
Sure but like, what if they walk around a corner and get lost (not dead)? What if I get really fast and start traveling at mach fuck, leaving them in my dust? Will they always just appear on my screen when I move to a new area/floor as long as they're alive?

>>565942505
They'll try to zone transition with you but frankly they always get themselves killed eventually if you're bringing them into combat areas. Follower builds should treat their followers as expendable.

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>>565943892
>tfw I just wanted a CoQ fren
I'm sure Herman could probably mutate, if I dominate him. Maybe I could leverage his hivem- one human mind into becoming a mental blaster without threat of glimmer while I hack and slash shit

>>565944450
Yeah you can take over your followers too, or even play as the follower yourself. My biggest gripe with pets is that they have combat stats, so you can pay money for extra power at the start of the game, which is very contrary to the game's roguelike roots.

Quasimorph is pretty fun sometimes.
> Two damage boosting perks that just require you to empty your weapon to trigger.
>Clone has two extra projectiles per shot, and one action reloads.
Equip a machine gun, use the pact that gives unlimited ammo, and you get to be a Hollywood action hero for six turns.
I.also didn't realize that the grenade launcher tracks individual grenade types after they've been loaded, which is pretty cool.

I don't like the Mercury quasis. I lost my most experienced merc on my first mission there to a death ray lunatic baron.
Also Im just done clearing the mission for the Xiomara questline, there was a metric shit ton of enemies, is this what the late game looks like or does it get even worse? I don't even want to think about how long it will take to loot everything on my way back

Just noticed Qud has workshop support these days. Any essential mods I should look into?

>>565885253
Vanilla Rogue? I'd consult RogueBasin.

>>565944450
Don't trust how that guy looks, too black.

>>565960440
Just don't relax and you'll be fine

>>565951132
The story missions are absolutely on the heavy side, but not that far off from late game.
I often don't bother looting anything other than implants, food and ammo after filling the pod and shuttle.

>>565877661
Nice work, anon.

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I like Mercury
wonder if they'll end up adding more interactable Quasi factions

Good night, /rlg/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-13LUfagQhY

>>565931048
Post some so we can laugh at it.
Like a thesaurus took HRT.

Bump

>>565975910
i wish every roguelike had cute catgirl companions in spats

>>565951132
Why trigger the baron if you're not ready to baron hunt?

so I want some opinion on party members leveling up
>A: you control everything
>B: they do their own things but tell you ahead of time what they are gonna level up
B sounds more roguelike but it does penalize party members acquired later (unless you get to customize them too, but that sort of homogenize every character to just a level 1 shell)

>>566006407
How do I know I'm ready if I never seen one before? I was ok with the Venusians and there's only one way to find out anyway

>>566009304
I would prefer A, personally

>>566009447
Could have used a chump that wouldn't hurt to lose first.

don't call her tenma maemi, call her by her true name
tenga mommy

>>566011056
nigga still simping for a man hiding behind a voice changer and an uncompressed PNG

>>566011131
wdywa

>>566010784
It was one of the merc I started with so it feels bad but it doesn't really matter desu, I have everyone and half of them fully trained but I never use them
It was the girl with the +loot chance and I don't have a backup chip though... My loot...

>>566011056
Tenma can be funny but she can also be a complete cunt, I struggle to watch her full streams.

who hype for rift wizard 3?

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I haven't even made it past floor 10 on rwiz1

>>566021882
1 just isnt a good game, too slow, lack of interesting synergies, lots of missed potential
2 is everything 1 wanted to be, pretty much the perfect game except for some badly needed QoL improvments
3 hopefully continues this progression

>trying to reach Golgotha at lvl 11
>keep getting lost between grit gate and Golgotha
>finally get one tile away before becoming lost
>get raped by goatmen
That run was fated to die, I started the game with that handy disease book in my inventory

Hey everyone, I was in one of the generals a few months back and posted my game Twilight of Bronze, we just released on Steam a little over a week ago, still free on Itch if you want to give it a play test, theres also a disc if you want to discuss the game there

https://roguebasin.com/index.php/Twilight_of_Bronze

>>566027719
I tried it, it was AI slop to the fullest degree

What are some roguelikes to cheer me up
I tried Infra Arcana but it just depresses me more

>>566027719
>>566030506
At that time you hadn't even bothered to check that all the mechanics in your AI-generated guide were actually in the game.

>>566027719
Seems like my kind of game, will definitely try it later

>>566030506
>>566030856
It’s definitely a work in progress, I’m not ashamed of using AI, I’ve still put many hours into working on it, the guide might not be up to date because things have changed, when I get home today I’m planning on fleshing it out more, the past few days have been bug fixes and other small additions

>>566031047
Awesome! It’s free on Itch if you want to demo it out, if you want to discuss it, give ideas or share bugs that need to be sorted, our discord is open to everyone

>>566030770
Problem with roguelikes is that you get a good run and you get excited but then you die and you become even sadder than you were at the start.

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huh, this seems new, i havent noticed that before. car doors now have windows, and they apparently can be broken. wonder how that impacts stuff

>>566036879
...and wait, when did car doors have any sort of capacity? i mean i guess that makes sense because they have those little slots to store some shit, but was that always a thing or just recent?

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No Odyssey inspired roguelikes? It even has all the standard monsters like Scylla, Siren and flushed toilet demon

>>566037726
My game has Mycenaean greece, but its largely non-fiction with a rogue style temple-rite dungeon you have to clear, it has mythical enemies at the half way point, but its played off as mostly hallucinogenic.

I might make a fiction option later on though.

>>566037013
They do have a tiny bit of storage on 0.H at least. Like 2.5L though.

>>566022642
The disease book typical isn't that valuable early on as by the time you need it you can just visit the NPC who is guaranteed to sell it

>>566038807
somehow I've just never noticed. guess you can store...a handgun i guess? I wonder if you can access it from outside of the car.
also I had totally forgotten you can peek through curtains without opening them. that would of been really helpful

>>566037726
I still can't believe they're actually going with those designs

>>566048409
it makes me think of that "the mummy" fuck up where they accidentally released a trailer without the correct audio, only the terrible yelling track left in. like, maybe some intern forgot to send the right file and this is pre-cgi

A roguelike but it's fun and you enjoy playing it and after you do finish you feel happier than when you started.

>>566056695
Literally antithetical to the genre

>>566056695
hello, yes, fbi, this post right here

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ive started a new game and it appears to somehow be...half debug mode or something? why is it showing me these stats? when i check my character sheet, theres no debug traits activated, and i havent used the debug menu.

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>>566065145
started ANOTHER new game and its still giving me debug info. new world, chose "play now".

>>566065145
>>566065517
Redownload the entire game

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What does this do? Just make them not fight pirates/quasis/civres or something more?

>>566067029
closing/restarting and starting a new game fixed it. i think what happened was i did a "play now" and it chose the only world without a character, a world called "debug", which makes you start with debug traits. then when i left it and started a new world, whatever flag that gets tripped stayed tripped on every new world i entered afterwards, despite not showing any debug traits.

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what

>>566078196
wear a gas mask and you'll be fine

>>566078196
That's how machineguns sound in Cara. Yeah I don't know why they make that sound, ask Kevin.

>>566067582
I think you get friendlies on associated mission start, on top of spawned QMs being friendly
something about getting access to their tech tree too, but haven't tried yet because you have to eliminate one of their top guys which could be months of travel time away if you don't have Bram engine

Good night, /rlg/

>>566067894
Huh, weird

>>566078196
I wonder if DDA has any fart mods

>>566090403
Depends. If it's funny or silly, that's against Kevin's rules, but if it's your creepy fetish then you're 100% allowed to put that into the game.

>>566086978
*kisses you*

>>566090954
Yeah that seems about right

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Stupi dstupid last floor of this Ancom story mission wow I hate it
I was forced to do it or I have to go to Jupiter to get research stations..

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this "light retrieval" quest sucks, i was drilling into a wall because there is no open path and i immediatly ate a rocket to the face, then got set on fire by napalm on the air or something. and finally fell into a pit trying to run away

>>566103557
Apparently the bot that fired it also killed himself with the explosion, kek.
If i died from the fall i would have unapologetically savescummed btw

bump

Achtung

>>566103557
Barely managed to survive huh

>>566022642
Golgotha is a deathtrap if you're going for the lv12 challenge, the reward isn't worth getting stunlocked by poison jells.
Also TOU is your best friend and the only way to survive the goats' undodgeable armor ignoring grenades
Don't forget to always rest to full whenever possible and armor up as much as you can

Anything like DF Adventure Mode, but with shit to actually do? I really like the granular limb-based combat, but it's really lacking in goals beyond "genocide" or "make a cool guy for your fort to maybe recruit/fight"

>>566133184
qud?

New to frogcomposband
What are the panic buttons for if you punch above your weight? This is like the third game in a row where I got mauled by that bear and couldn't recall in time

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New character.

>>566133261
Yeah it's called not o-tabbing into everything

>>566133184
i dunno what limb based combat means exactly but Stoneshard maybe? It monitors the status of sections of the body like limbs and a character gets a debilitating injury when you severely damage a part.

>>566133261
Teleport/Phase/Teleport Other + scroll of recall

>>566133184
>"make a cool guy for your fort to maybe recruit/fight"
I've actually never done that now that I think about it. Would be cool to have a previous adventurer in your fort.

Time for a nap, I'm a rogue who loves to snooze

i miss her

nigga bumps the thread at 58 minutes interval

>>566153028
58 minutes = 1 aut

>>566134743
what the fuck is triple-jointed
sounds disgusting
ah right it's Qud

>>566156173
You have seen nothing, just look up some late game chimera characters

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I have started collecting every armor set
I love hoarding, and I wish the UI was better for it

stop splatting you faggots

>>566165815
I also love hoarding, whenever I play a *band I modify the house inventory so that it's greatly expanded that way I can store every single useless artifact I find

>>566173620
>>566165815

i'm eternally grateful to sil for violently ridding me of my hoarding habits

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I'm awakening the Mars demons
The RealWare plot twist is pretty funny
Also I realised during this mission that Priya can stack turrets and robots with her perk, maybe it makes the class about allies actually useful

>>566183802
It helped me too but I still enjoy hoarding when I can

Speaking of Sil, I should try out that Sil-more thing that came out a short while ago.

Good night, /rlg/

>>566078196
>>566083393
That is specifically the sound of a submachine gun burst.
>>566103557
That's an M202 Flash rocket. They're absolutely brutal on structures.
If you've ever wanted to reduce a building to a pile of ash in the minimum amount of time possible this is the method. Put one through a window. Maybe shoot the window out first.

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>>566190056
if you are into hoarding, the +4 stacks character trait is pretty busted
I remember you could do some shit like 3x6 alcohol, 5 packs of smokes, multiple morphine, stacks of repair kits, shitload of rations, multiple Q shards
just that it's always been buggy that sometimes 1 unit of a stack disappears when switching characters or autosorting, but maybe it's fixed now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLFx8uY6GwY

>>566203346
Simpsons roguelike when?

>>566158053
I suppose ceasing to pass as human constitutes progress for their ilk.

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pls tell me someone has the ancient /rlg/ "HOARDERS" edit

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>>566221968
gonna dump some oldfag material while i'm at it

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>>566222621

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>>566222830

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>>566223004

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>>566223429

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>>566223670

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>>566224084

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>>566224250
IIRC, /rlg/'s biggest nationalities were America, UK, and Poland in that order.

>>566222830
>"There is , but you cannot anymore"
Fucking amazing

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>>566223004

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>>566224540

I will save roguelike don't worry
The one piece roguelike is real
Live action adaptation of one piece roguelike soon brothers

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>>566225450

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>>566222621

>>566222830
>tfw can't read this because I'm a filthy phoneposter and it's too blurry when I zoom in

>>566226796
can't you just open it in a new tab?

>>566227485
Image resolution is still shit on mobile, even in the new tab

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>>566227596
works on my phone, i have Brave on it

>>566228028
>tfw forgot to change the url to .png after removing the "m" from it
Thanks anon, I was just being retarded

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i miss when a full moon meant something

bump

>>566229870
wifelike

>>566225450
A classic

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>you feel a sense of loss

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>>566247580

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>>566247804

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>>566222830
seriously heavy shit

>>566229870
I mean you can't play a roguelike that isn't real.

>>566255095
pfft. eat 600 mgs of diphenhydramine and start a game and see what happens.

>>566263649
synthetic cock is 350ncalories. mmmmmmm

>>566263649
They have new graphics rather than just slop in a transparent bag?

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damn, page 8 already after 30 minutes?

anyways, peeking over ledges is kinda op. you can see under the roof, despite me being 4 stories up

>TLG
If I jam a bunch of wild giant aphids into a concrete room, will they give me free honeydew? I know the expanded taming mod on DDA required you to feed tamed aphids to get honeydew, but I don't know how it works in baseline TLG.

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>>565850403
>oh cool a slowing spear build, this could be neat
>oh cool a speed dagger this could be nea-
mmmmmmmmmmm
usually when i think of doing a stealth run i prefer having a blink staff early on/invis charm to guarantee the stealth kill, but without those in hand, is it worth it going into a stealth build?
im on D9 and already put 2 enchants into the spear since i got it early on from a warlord

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any tips for surviving cdda megacity starts. the whistle has actually been giga useful, standing on roofs and drawing all zeds from 100 tile radius before climbing down the otherside and bailing

>>566274760
>joecartoon
Holy fuck, I'm old.

I found a locksmith kit in cata and figured I'd try getting the lockpicking proficiency.
Boy am I getting a lot of mileage out of it. I figured lockpicking would only be marginally useful, as you can crowbar locked wooden doors open, halligan some locked metal doors open ("galvanized" ones locked electronically can't be pried open, but the ones with a "key" above their sprite can, or at least half of them), metal bars can be hacksaw'd in about 15 minutes for free or cut with a torch near instantly in exchange for fuel (which can only be carried in rather heavy fuel tanks).

But lockpicking actually brings a lot to the table.
First, the locksmith kit is only 0.1L, so it can be easily carried all the time. Which can't be said of all tools. Since it can always be in your pocket, it often eliminates the need to fetch your often heavy and/or large breaching tools from the car.
Second, picking a lock takes only ~30 seconds. I think it depends on the devices skill and your perception, this is with 4 skill and 11 per. A lot faster than I expected, beats wasting 15 minutes sawing metal using a hacksaw. Of course, not all metal bars even have a metal bar door. But a lot do.
And lastly, door locks aren't the only thing that can be picked open. Safes come in 3 flavors: combination locked ones (need safecracking and a stethoscope), electronically locked ones (can be opened using an electrohack in about 10-15 minutes), and "normally" locked safes - these can be opened using lockpicking. I always assumed that all safes needed safecracking, but apparently not. There's quite a lot of "normally" locked safes - like the armory in a police station I raided a while back had 3 such safes with a lot of ammo. And they open just as fast as locked doors.

>>566272441
>>566272441
Sadly I think that many runics just aren't good on the weaker weapons. A speed dagger sounds nice but a broadsword does 5x the base damage so there's no comparison until extremely high enchant levels which is a long way away (and even then might not catch up I don't actually know the numbers). Spear of slowing is a little better since you can kite with it but in terms of actually killing things quickly which is importantly later it's still suffering against the war pike. But that's probably what I'd dump since you already have transference and just lame things out. I think stealth without a heavy weapon for the sneak attack bonus is a bit weak.

>>566274760
Climbing roofs is cool, but it has its dangers too.
I assume you'd primarily climb up using downspouts at first, but zombies can easily break them so you might not have a semi-safe way down anymore if you're not careful. Grappling hooks are cool for climbing up and down, but they take a while to craft.
Since we're talking starts, grabber zombies should be rare/nonexistent, but later on you should be wary of them grabbing you off ledges. Later, later on, some zombies could actually start breaking the building, so it becomes less viable to gather zombies like that.
I think recent DDA versions removed the ability to stab from above using reach weapons, but you used to be able to at least.

If you go up a two+ story building so you could craft a bit in peace, you can make a bunch of nailboards, set them down somewhere near a roof, then climb that roof and make noise, then read a chapter of a book or something. The zombies will walk around the nailboards and slowly damage themselves.

I heard you could use the throw-while-peeking mechanic to throw things like fridges onto zombies. Like, by peeking out of the window using X and a direction key (not down) and then initiating throwing mode using "t". It seems like you can no longer throw really heavy things like that. But you can apparently still throw things while peeking down as well, so you could probably get some chunks of steel or rocks, then peek down and press t to throw them from basically complete safety at that point.

>>566277849
>but in terms of actually killing things quickly which is importantly later it's still suffering against the war pike.
yup it sure was, turns out 2 trolls and some dar battlemages will still cave your skull in beyond the transference heal if you go deep enough, who knew?

>>566280395
So it goes. I wrote a bit about the value of the health charm when I posted the win screenshot, I think now out of the three healing methods (regen, trans, health charm) that transference might be the worst which is funny because I probably had it in reverse order when I started out with health charm maybe being the best. It just doesn't seem to keep you alive enough in tough battles and you can't really hang around to heal up to full later on. Regen does less for you in fights but being able to enter every fight at full without worrying about food or respawning is great utility with less investment. The more I play brogue the more I feel that "optimal" play is really boring, fishing for a runic is just worse than just picking any heavy weapon (except the shitty warhammer) which is likely to take you through the mid game so you can pick up attack staffs and useful rings and charms. I can see why lots of people do seeded runs to get what they want rather than playing random.

>>566275552
sound. the benefit is not having to break/wrench a door open and draw zed aggro.

>>566280038
you can still just drop stuff, no need to throw. use / and the advanced inventory if you need to. just drop it into midair. im not bothering to climb spouts, i just keep moving till i reach a building with stairs or a ladder

>>566282496
Oh yeah, you're right on both accounts, being quiet can also be a benefit if you're sneaking around.

And somehow I didn't think of just directional dropping with D, d'oh. I guess it's still kind of a niche use, since it'd splat a single zed at most and you'd only have so many fridges to throw down, but sometimes every little bit counts?

>>566284049
as boring and cheesy as it would be, a cinderblock on a rope would be a funny weapon. drop, pull up, drop, pull up, drop, pull up. i guess it should only hurt regular zeds so its not that absurdly exploitable at the start.

>>566286863
That would be funny. Maybe it could even be reasonably balanced by either being really exhausting to pull up and down as it'd realistically be, or having an optional way to rig an electric motor for the job, but then you'd have to know some mechanics, secure the motor, battery, and spend quite some time setting it up.

don't die /domg/

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Lmao, this came off from a random young black dragon I ran into on a large swampy area. I guess I'm going shopping to Forge of Wonders now.

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>>566281074
>transference might be the worst which is funny because I probably had it in reverse order when I started out with health charm maybe being the best.
its really funny how either protaction or health charm + reaping is just a better version of transference
it would be really good if you used it on a high single-hit weapon, but those take 2 turns and in deeper floors if you're in need of health that badly it would be safer to just hunker down for a moment than shove yourself into like, a Wraith, or some spellcaster
actually, writing this down, transference is probably most suited for stealth, no? switch rings, blink in, hit, blink out, switch back, instead of what you'd assume would be its use (getting into a pack with an axe and healing more than you're being hit for)

>>566290702
You're right, people seem to like warhammer, stealth and transference together. Instantly kills everything and heals you for 50+%. Problem is making it that far, warhammers are ass at regular combat, they're obviously good for single target mobs but against packs and summoners they're a death sentence. I should find a seed and give it a go.

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...okay, so if you just start throwing desks and chairs out of apartment buildings, they stack. im 3 stories up, and that chair is still on my level. its on 3 desks. that...shouldnt be a thing.

what do you suppose will happen if i step out on it? could i...walk to another 4 story building by just dropping enough desks outside a window?

>>566296151
Uhh, are you moving them as furniture using G? I think the initial idea is deconstructing heavy furniture into items you can wield, and dropping that. Desks won't really work for that because they decon into generic planks and stuff, but chairs decon into chairs you can wield, they aren't that heavy though.

It IS funny that they apparently float like that if you move them though. I'm not sure if you could walk on top of them like that, quicksave and try it? It'll likely prompt if you wanna jump off if you try, if you can't.

>>566300134
i was decon shelves but they just end up as scrap metal so i tried just pushing a desk. it prompts me to jump, so i didnt end up trying. its still vaguely useful, you could use it to block line of sight in 1 square alleways before going down stairs, a bit tedious but its something. i couldnt tell if it was damaging zeds since only the first desk actually hit the ground, and theres like 30 zeds milling around, so no idea which one it "landed" on.
its got me wondering however, if you can build two towers, with a gap between, and use that to climb since you can climb walls if theres two pieces of furniture adjacent to you. actually, now im wondering if i could of done that from the top and climbed down 4 flights on the outside.

>>566300541
You could do that? Didn't know. Do you need parkour or is it something any survivor can attempt? Neat if you can actually build something you can climb using just two windows that are next to each other, and some furniture.

Wait, you might not even need two windows if you push the desks out diagonally, just one might do. Although such a tower might not be very reliable, zeds tend to smash stuff around them when they're agitated.

I wish there was an acid that used finer scaling than 0.25L per unit. With things like gasoline, I think you can microdose that by dropping 1 unit of it at a time to make a trail, then light that on fire, but that obviously won't work for dropping off a building since the fire would eventually destroy the building. If there was an acid you could microdose off a tower, you could probably get a lot of mileage off just dropping 3 tiles of it down onto the zeds from a window every few minutes.
I guess keeping an acid zombie to repeatedly kill and succ the acid in a bear trap could work for an endless source of acid, but by then you'll likely not need to be afraid of a bunch of zombies.

>>566289145
anon...

So I unlocked the telequasimagic engine thing and went to Jupiter to finish my ship upgrades
I decided to see what is in the bramfatura and clicked the descent button
That was a terrible mistake. Idk if it's the Jupiter quasis that are super strong but I can't do shit and die horribly every try (I enabled restart on death cause I was scared)

essential chudgoycliquelikes?

>>566317708
4chan

>>566317708
That one convict nigger challenge run in unnethack

Damn, board's going at hyper speed again

>>566296151
Z-levels in Cata are weird

Good night, /rlg/

>>566134743
Nevermind. I'm dead at level 12 to a legendary Dawnglider with like 15 Dawngliders that all spawned with him.

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For me, it's scissor

>>566347148
I like the classic murmillo

>>566347148
How do you counter having a net thrown onto you and poked?

>>566347148
Scissor is definitely aura farming there, but I think I'd have to go with Trax or Hoplomachus. I'm liking Trax's medium shield, but Hoplomachus knows what's up using that buckler/dirk combo

>>566227596
Edit the url to remove the 'm' once you have it open in a new tab

>>566353049
>dodges your thrown net

bump

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Well I made it past Golgotha this time. True Kin because all my mutants die horrible deaths in early game. Walked into Grit Gate and immediately got a polygel at Mafeo, but I dunno what to use it on at this point in the game.

Are goats in CDDA a good choice for livestock? I managed to find and wrangle 4 back to my base.

FUUUUUUCK

Is Qud actually set in Israel?

>>566367015
Yes (it's in the same cinematic universe as Cogmind)

>>566366963
sorry, roguelikes are perma-death only
le petit mort is not allowed

New Qud character:
>Mutant Scholar
>Str-18
>Agi-21
>Tough-18
>Int-18
>Will-18
>Ego-10
>Double-muscled
>Heightened Hearing
>Triple-jointed
I have 4 mutation points left. Force wall feels like a classic to slap a cage on scary things and blast it to death. I'm looking to be a SWF long blade guy with pistols. Thoughts?

>>566365483
Cool, what does the build look like so far?

>>566347148
I've played a decent chunk of gladiator sims but i don't recall any scissors

where do you find recreational drugs/hallucinogens in dda? kinda want to do a semi-schizo hunter s thompson run

>>566381942
I usually find plenty in drug smuggler corpse drops, autonotes will help to find them. Otherwise I usually find the illicit stuff in people's houses.
Also, I'd suggest going with BN over DDA, drugs are more fun there.

>>566381942
I think you can also consume certain plants and seeds you can harvest out in the open. I've read about how some guy ate datura seeds and hallucinated an npc.

As the guy above said, you can find drugs in fairly large quantities on smuggler corpses. You may not notice them normally often, but if you enable auto-notes, you can spot them a lot easier. The auto-note for the smugglers is called "Drug Deal" and the default marker is a lowercase pink "d". You can enable auto-notes and drive around normally for a few days, then "/" on the map to search for "drug".

That aside, you can occasionally find city/town houses with junkie basements or greenhouses, with fully grown weed in trays you can just harvest by examining them. If you disassemble the cannabis plants you harvest, you get like 20 mari you can roll into joints, per plant. Quite a lot.

>>566383901
I've tried eating a bunch of Datura in BN and all that happened was my focus and stats were too shit to do anything for 2 in game days

>>566382642
buy an ad

>>566385610
You buy an ad, faggot

>TLG
>find a marina
>hop on a boat to explore the massive lake
>figure I'll hop onto a few research stations or lighthouses and get hella food stuffs to bring back home
>zombie shark molests me a little from an open square while I'm driving diagonally
>kill it without much trouble
>pull up to a research station
>disembark my boat to fuck up the swimmer zombies
>zombie sharks snatch me off the walkways
>mfw 2 zombie sharks play a tug of war with my mortal coil until I die
When the fuck did these guys get added? Last I knew, jawed terrors were the only "sharks", and they certainly didn't yank you off land and into the water. I do like how it makes water areas other than razorclaws shipwrecks and kraken caves actually dangerous

>>566387269
i did

is there a single use for wallets in dda

>>566393849
you can use your wallet to send money to kevin

first for chei

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When you're trying out a roguelike you haven't played before, what do you look for that gives it soul, or tells you it has none? Some friends of mine were arguing about different Angband variants and how small differences made them feel fuller or more shallow.

Thinking about it myself, I look for some kind of overarching story that can be told through gameplay or level design. Some newer games like Achra or Qud, they've got pretty ambitious stories they tell. What feels shallow to me (perhaps not to others) is stuff like Larn, particularly the level designs feel tedious. Everyone plays for different reasons though, wondering what you guys think.

>>566375139
Pick a drawback and invest the extra points in Quickness + Photosynthetic Skin, you're gonna love the extra attack speed

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>>566378327
I started Priest of All Suns with Optical Technoscanner, so I can get whatever I need from shops with Snake Oiler and everything being identified. I don't have any other good cybernetics so so there's not much of a build aside from having a lot of money and shooting things with a gun.

>>566402929
Is chei good in modern DCSS

>>566413534
Not really, no. Chei is bad for your winrate because the downside of taunting yourself kicks in before you get the advantage of having high stats.

>>566360289
>pokes you anyway

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I know this is largely because of all the missing proficiencies, but I thought this was funny.

>>566426259
bloatlike

No.

>>566426259
What the hell would you use this for

>>566405236
This, amphibious is basically free points anyways

Thoughts on the new nethack release?
https://nethack.org/v500/release.html

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https://te4.org/games/addons/tome/classdemolisher
This class is too fun

Lesson learned, the people of Derth don't like it when you leave trails of fire around town. Guess I won't be doing the arena.

>>566450050
My only complaint so far is ramming doesn't do additional damage based on speed

Good night, /rlg/

Any good pirate games? I feel in the mood for some swashbuckling adventures

>>566460884
Uh, now that you mention it, I cannot really think of any roguelikes with a pirate theme.

>>565855593
where do you get this data? anyway to see specific generals on /vg/ ie /rlg/ itself or is it just board wide?

>>566365483
Save it. At that point in the game you hardly have anything worth polygelling.
>>566367015
That's in spoilers territory.
As far as the player knows at the start of the adventure, they are on an alien planet.
>>565874601
iirc multiweapon fighting is only worth it if you have at least 4 arms, with only 2 it's just not good.
>>565927351
I've seen far more schizos who don't play the game complaining about it, such as you, than people shilling it.
>>565900986
Path of Achra? Not a lot of writing but it is very evocative.

Best "Kobold Simulator" game? Please tell me there's something better than DF adventure mode.

Alternatively, is there a game that would let me play as an ooze-thing with shapeshifting ooze powers?

>>566467427
roguelikes have been a dead genre for 20 years now

Did the thread on the one dead board work out? Or did the 70 year old moot ballwashers (all three of them) run you off the board?

>>566393849
Like all containers in your inventory, they serve the purpose of annoying the player

>>566470129
It's still up, it's just that there's no point bumping it when
>the /vg/ general is back
>you can leave the backup thread without a bump for months and it will probably still be there

>>566470129
what board?

>>566467427
There was a Kobold Town mod for DF IIRC

Why are npcs so retarded that when you free them from a mi-go camp, they immediately rush into the other room and get butchered by the guards there. What am I supposed to do, take them to a basement somewhere and tell them to not move?

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>>566467427
have you looked into those other modern "open-world" RLs?
because I haven't

>>566470758
>still cant figure out containers
perhaps minecraft is more your speed

>>566483672
Kill all of them before freeing them. Yeah, it's dumb

>>566485809
>>I don't like this
>u r too dum 2 figure it out lmao!
Why are DDA fags always like this?

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>>566486885
because we look like this

>>566450050
Wasn't TOME4 getting a new DLC or did I just imagine that?

>>566487515
You really don't

>>566490992
true, im not in black and white.

>>566491616
Just black

>>566489986
Soon™, trust the plan

>>566447023
Still haven't gotten to it, I've been meaning to get back into nethack and ascend at least once and that's a good enough excuse as any
Apparently they changed it so Valkyries start with spears instead?

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I ended up using that polygel on a phial of neutron flux. It's kind of insane that I can get permanent stat boosts like this from random shopkeepers.

>>566498836
Be careful anon, soon you'll start grinding for more gel and cloning draught and Schroedinger pages instead of playing the game

>CDDA is headlined by a fat retarded tyrant constantly making dumb decisions instead of developing anything meaningful and his small cabal of sycophantic trannies
>BN's dev team is overrun by gay furries adding in fursuit power armor and pride gear
>TLG's main dev is a green haired tranny obsessed with making video essays about empathy for minorities in role playing games

you can't find these people IRL if you were trying to but then you go online and you can't swing a dead cat through the moderation team of any group without hitting 3 of them

>>566367015
>>566467209
>Qud is set in Israel
This better be an elaborate shitposting campaign

>>566499346
Specialist nerd hobbies tend to attract the socially dispossessed, it is what it is

>>566493157
is that what you imagined? kek

>>566499462
https://wiki.cavesofqud.com/wiki/Levant_Face

>>566499462
the enemies are the Knight Templar, what do you think

>>566499503
we should hold children at gunpoint and force them to play roguelikes

back to dead, huh rlg.

tell us your runs progress NOW

>>566367015
Yes, Issachar was one of Jacob's sons, Joppa is a real place, as is Bethesda Susa. The game is chalk full of references to Israel and the old testament. One of the creators is a secular Jew who is fond of pulling from religious source material. At this rate that region being a post-apocalyptic toxic nuclear wasteland isn't that hard to imagine.

Crushed under the weight of ten thousand gacha posters award

>>566467209
>I've seen far more schizos who don't play the game complaining about it, such as you, than people shilling it.
Come on now, anybody claiming Qud's prose is good is undeniably either a troll or shill, it doesn't get any more obvious than that.

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haha look a church while im in a church

>>566525486
Do not burn it down anon, we don't need another Varg

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>>566525867
anon...

>>566526258
It was inevitable.

>>566470129
it worked out in the sense that the guy that bumps the thread once an hour so it doesn't die got his lazy ass in gear again

>>566470129
moots got three balls?

>>566531827
Yeah, it's not super widespread knowledge but it is true.

god damn it it really DOES teeter on the edge of death. page 9 in an hour? does vg just need double the pages or something?

>>566540274
During EU night hours it speeds up a lot, it's much easier for the thread to survive at other times of the day. At late night/early morning hours it starts slowing down again. That being said, reaching page 9 or even 10 fast and falling off the board are two different things, it is entirely possible that a thread can hit page 10 in 20-30 minutes, and then stay on page then for an hour or even more before actually falling off the board.

>>566540274
There's no need for fear-mongering, the rate of fall is slower the closer you get to the bottom. Page 1 lasts seconds, Page 5, minutes. Page 9 an hour yet the bottom of page 10 has lasted three hours without a post. That's your real metric. The schizo who posts once per hour doesn't want to hear this but he is just a retard and part of the problem.

>>566499346
>>CDDA is headlined by a fat retarded tyrant constantly making dumb decisions instead of developing anything meaningful and his small cabal of sycophantic trannies
true
>>BN's dev team is overrun by gay furries adding in fursuit power armor and pride gear
comically exaggerated
>>TLG's main dev is a green haired tranny obsessed with making video essays about empathy for minorities in role playing game
false

>>566542735
Hello, troon.

any sleeper hits that can be played in the terminal? already got cdda crawl df nethack etc

>>566467427
Tome has oozemancer class

>>566543403
>having brain worms
>in /rlg/

>the spindle is just the golan heights

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>never bothered with martial arts or unarmed in Cataclysm
>been using a punch dagger I found early on so my unarmed is pretty high
>decide to visit a dojo and see how this shit works
>find a book on Judo
>keeping with the extreme realism of the game as outlined by our lord and savior Kevin, my character becomes a master in a martial art by listening to music and doing random moves in his living room like a kid who just saw Mortal Kombat
>ok lets kite a random zombie to see if this actually does anyth-
>what the fuck
>my dude shoulder throws a zombie behind him for most of it's health and stuns it in a single move
>take on 3 zeds at once, slamming them into each other, countering their attacks and keeping them all stunned so they literally can't do shit
>holy shit this is awesome
>oh shit, Dissoluted Devourer at the edge of the woods for some reason
>throw caution to the wind and decide to fight it completely unarmed
>I am somehow flipping a gigantic mashed together abomination of corpses everywhere like it's made out of paper
>gets a SINGLE attempted attack in the entire fight, which my dude dodges and counterattacks
this is fucking obscene holy shit, I thought melee was largely shit compared to just using guns

>>566367015
snapjaws you find deep in tunnels are Hamas, and the weaker ones in the surface are what remains of gaza civilians

>>566563754
If you have a martial art that hasn't been nerfed due to people talking about how good it is on the internet, there's still fun to be had in the Dire Realism Fork, but stamina can still bite you in the ass if you're not careful.

Good night, /rlg/

im gonning

>>566563754
It's very much a mixed bag in normal CDDA. But then you use the Mythical Martial Arts mod and can punch things harder than .50bmg while becoming invulnerable with Viper Style kung fu

Which is harder in Qud, Mutant or True Kin?

read a chat on the hitman "roguelike" mode today and people were arguing whether it's a roguelike or a roguelite because it has meta progression
It doesn't even have permadeath
lol

>>566590351
True Kin have better stats to compensate for the lack of mutations, their tonics heal more (Very underrated aspect) and they can change their cybernetics at any moment for more flexibility
Mutants are harder if you don't have a specific build or combo in mind at character creation, considering how many mutations rely on MP scaling and you can reliably level up 2/3 of them at best

>>566592063
Alright. Which is more fun to play?

>>566592193
I guess Mutants let you play with more powers right out of the gate so you can try new stuff every run instead of relying on random treasure to build your character

>>566592193
Ignore that guy. Mutants fucking suck in all regards except for picking Sunder Mind to powerlevel at the start of the game, and getting Two Headed so you don't instantly die to decapitation. Mutants get such terrible stats that you can't get all the skills you need, so you are either stumbling around getting lost in the wilderness or blindly buying artifacts to identify them. I guess the mutations are fun to screw around with, but the game is so much harder when you have bad stats.

The ragu

>>566593612
>Qud
>hard
/rlg/ is truly dead

>>566595416
nigga says this then continue to bump the thread at 58 minute intervals

what are we playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV1jyVP21H8

>>566596526
just realized you can combine megacity with sky island in dda, so that