>Star Savior is a new game by Korean studio BSide, the developers of CounterSide. It's a 3D turn-based fantasy RPG with training gameplay. It features an all-female cast, optional PvP and is voiced in Korean and Japanese.
story was ok for light-hearted fan service I like the ending when they made sure to tell us that Captain didn't get lucky in a normal way, the opponent was cheating and Captain succeeding was basically impossible with this game being about time loops this makes me think we were in this situation in a prior loop, failed and then someone manipulated things in a way were the right card was in the right place there was some wind stuff going on indoors and the Eastern continent chicks are all about wind so good chance Lyn's master is part of the group making sure the loops go our way
>dancho has a cunning plan to keep the bunnysuits on for the finale >based Luna has your back Imagine the things you'd get up to with her as your wife.
I just tried my first hard journey. I wasn't able to clear it, so the stellar archive kind of sucks. At what point does it get easy? Resonance 9, or when you have a full squad with resonance 8?
>>566133475 i see, i'll open some crates to get my star chart to 160 tomorrow, so i can get my Emily and Rosaria to res 8 to make it a little easier for myself
>>566137575 I was waiting for the double MMR event and it seems like that's not happening now, I guess I won't get plat since all the bots quit Dead game, honestly went back to CZN and I forgot to log in to SS most days...
I had a vivid dream about star savior today where the game had a dragon ball z collab where you could pull for goku and vegeta, goku had order attribute and vegeta was moon
>>566147952 Yeah kinda surprising. I really wanted to like the game but I couldn't stand it. Gave it a second chance very recently and I'm starting to get the hang of things but the flaws are still apparent.
>>566147952 Going through hard journey just to get +10 protection and sense of focus* despite maxed out health or protection or strength and tons of other potentials is killing me. I've done auto hard that has given better results (+30 strength and 3 useful potentials) so I'm starting to think that's actually the best bet for potential farming (but not using for gameplay). Or maybe I'm doing something really wrong.
>>566137661 >>566137779 he's being a cry baby bitch just taking out his anger about Counterside on everyone who relies on him for Star Savior content, even admitting that he still plays and maintaining his ranks in PvP. It's one thing if he boycotted or quit the game, but soft pussy here instead is just pissing on the people that follow him for content while Bside already laid out a roadmap and nothing has derailed from that.
>game is star and vaguely space themed >setting pretends to be fantasy but is actually sci-fi >so called "Lord of the Underworld" is named Hubble, after a big fucking telescope used to look at stars >the pull animation has us using a big fucking telescope to look at stars what did they mean by that?
My guild is dead. How does joining a new guild work? Should I do all of my dailies (including my daily guild gems) then quit and wait 24 hours to start looking for a new guild?
>>566172542 It's an Astrology themed fantasy game where stars have magical properties that bless the girls and make them super powered. Traveling the world on a destiny driven journey while using the stars, and telescopes as your means of navigation. What could stand in your way from watching the stars and earning their blessings? Space. The view we have of the universe is these twinkling lights being surrounded and swallowed up by pitch blackness. So the conflict is protecting those lights from the endless creatures that come from the voids between stars. Yes we use telescopes to view the stars and recruit new girls that have been blessed by them. I suspect the Hubble reference here is alluding to viewing space and finding the malevalent forces in the universe like black holes.
>>566175295 No sane normalfag would succumb themselves to the mind numbing grind that is CZN. There's way better retail options for essentially the same kick.
>it's going to take me 18 more days to reach level 180 for my main 4 star saviors (unless we get more events with gold and star pieces) Surely this and resonance 10 will make hard journeys easier right?
>>566183019 CZN didn't have that much grind thought? I have been playing since launch, it's really wasn't that bad at all. Everything the game wanted from you, you would have already done anyways if you liked the game at all. And after the half anniversary update it's literally the least time consuming gacha I am currently playing. Even if you hate actually playing the game you can literally completely skip your weekly runs while getting all the rewards. Star Savior is much more time consuming in its current state.
>>566188449 I don't think it's either of those. Bside is trying to stretch out content, so naturally, there's a decay in momentum. >>566201667 Gratz. Unless you got crazy lucky, that sounds pretty sweaty.
>>566202364 fei side its just trying to line up roberta regaining her toughness so she can use her skill whenever boss AoEs before it inevitably kills everyone and hoping fei actually triggers her evade >reducing constraint sustain debuff from level 3 to 2 lets charlotte actually not die vs boss massively bumping up my score
>did my first hard journey clear with my Emily >HP is a lot higher after focusing entirely on VIT, but my attack is 450 lower than my normal journey stellar archive what's the best value you're supposed to get on your second stat after maxing your first?
>>566187218 >Star Savior is much more time consuming in its current state. Are we playing the same game? Star Savior, the game where everyone's complaining that there's nothing to do """in its current state"""?
Half the shit you've spewed was definitely not written in good faith either and it shows. Selective memory of a stupid bitch.
>>566187218 >Even if you hate actually playing the game you can literally completely skip your weekly runs while getting all the rewards What about farming perfect decks to have a chance to survive the seasonal bosses and win their rewards?
>>566246132 fei is really good in pvp if you want to pvp a bunch, as many copies of her as you can, not over MLB unless ur a giga whale, but yeah. her arcana is kinda ehhh, no dupes if you want that style, it limits her niche but makes her really good in that limited niche, no exclusive arcana build is more generalist and not just a counter pick vs aoe.
fei is kind of an insane pick with bell as well, since bell lowers enemy accuracy, giving her effectively 20% extra evasion. so many people pick rosaria or lacy, you let your fast bell lower the enemy accuracy, they do their aoes and miss fei, then get they absolutely blasted. Bell even lets you play the cleanse or not game with waltz pickers since you can use ur accuracy debuff to force them to cleanse then silence someone for 2 turns and effectively take them out of the fight. if you get an early bell pick you can just slam fei late into the draft and win.
in the ai arena there are so many teams u can just take bell + fei into and automatically win
>>566225237 both sides all the modifiers on level 3 with no speed buff for the boss while side 2 the debuff that reduces max HP with attack/skill level 2 instead of level 3 since it lets charlotte have enough HP to survive bosses AoE and heal back with her enhanced ult
>Send support ticket about how the Journey charm to grant 4 force on kill doesn't work if Fei's counter kills the enemy >Be thorough and use all the official names and terms so there's no ambiguity >Get a reply today asking me to record a video of the problem and upload it to Youtube for them to understand the problem Bwos I think they might be retarded
Bullet had unlisted the video a while back before his crashout, but he was making a page in the team building tab where he said this was the best PvP defense in KR servers and even he had trouble cracking it. Wondering with Lyn and Fei out now, if there are better defense set ups than this. >Not like it will matter when half anni comes around
>>566309468 Here's your 50 dollar wedding skin you paid for. Also the part you really paid for the interactions those are gone too. Also the dialog is changed, also the voice acting is gone.
>>566310485 We've got an open slot for now, if we get multiple applications then I guess we could remove people who haven't been as inactive for as long, but I want to give people a reasonable grace period and not just remove anyone who takes a break for a couple days.
>>566339602 >roberta harley arcana 100% needed since you want the extra toughness to guarantee roberta uses her skill as much as possible and also using omegas arcana too since I got that max duped, flipflop between using attack/crit damage/lifesteal journey buff on her though I usually keep using emily skill on roberta >emily spamming skill on roberta until team is nearly dead then using it on herself/waltz depending on who dies to next AoE while spamming ults. +2 novaforce and hilde/bestas arcana are really good >waltz spam her skill+use enhanced basic to remove debuffs, ult wont really heal much with 80% healing debuff so only use it to boost roberta/fei above boss next action if you can break it before it ults, hitting 100% crit rate to keep her attacking helps >fei dont have feis arcana so building her with crit rate and using crit rate arcanas, 15% lifesteal journey buff is a big autoinclude and +30 speed from kyras arcana is noticeable >bunny charlotte havent tried using charlotte with bunny arcana+lynn, mostly hitting 100% crit rate with AX5 and using her ult when she has 5 stacks except when I need to break the boss >haydee same arcanas as emily but going all in on endurance, haydee with 3 dupes is a super comfy rotation and running triple 2-set defence, boss never kills her so she survives entire fight >rosaria got rosarias arcana as well, using skill turn 1 to build up novaforce and using her ult when boss's immunity runs out, usuallly able to stack 2-3 non-attack debuffs with her ult defence down making boss take massive damage from charlotte >bunny scarlet nanoda love, using her arcana as well, skill turn 1 to build up novaforce then when her ults off cooldown auto-using it when she has 2/3 7's since it lines up with her skill for next ult or has no cooldown, otherwise using ult when I need to break boss again if she has no 0's
and using the counterside ship skill since it makes it way easier to re-break the boss's toughness when it ends
>>566305212 yeah fei eats this team roberta will always attack fei and she can tank it, roberta needs to basically hit 3 times in a row to kill fei alongside some chip damage
if you run bell + fei you basically just automatically win vs this team chain silence eliza for no revives while you kill the rest and then dog pile eliza while shes silenced. I guess if they build high resistance on eliza and dodge they silence every time you might get cooked, but its not uncommon to get a chunk of effectiveness on bell anyway
>>566349756 you use fei s2 first for the accuracy debuff, the ult is only after that and not really required. fei's main damage against this team is the counter, if hilde blocks it and gets broken then you don't really care because you just keep swinging.
usually hilde can't even block because when she does her s3 fei counters and breaks her
>>566350173 fuck I meant bell s2 for the accuracy debuff the bell s3 is less important, just makes it faster so no eliza revives and extra damage reduction
>>566350381 wtf do you mean hold skills? how is using s2 to before s3 because it works better to enable your team "holding" a skill?
do you even know what fei's kit is? you counter every time she evades, you build her slow and the enemy will go before her and use their aoes (and green units will target her if shes your only blue unit), if you evade hildes hit you will counter her and break her by the time fei goes she can use her s3 to kill someone
>>566350525 You expect fei's hp to be lower than bell after taking a rosaria ult? you're just a bronze retard i see.There isnt even a green unit in the team to just focus fei down for her to do work. Don't reply to me again unless you post a 100% winrate at diamond
>>566350668 >there isn't a green unit in the team what colour is roberta then you blind fuck? units don't target for low HP either you retard
clearly you have never even vs'd this team, all its trying to do is stall you out so it can use the passive damage procs to kill you, you are on a timer, you want to abuse the AI targeting to punish them.
spastic hasn't even seen this style of team and doesn't even know how it works and thinks he knows what hes talking about.
>>566350834 >units don't target for low HP either you retard bronze retard this takes priority if theres no elemental advantage. Guess whos hp is going to be the lowest in the team after an aoe ult. Again stick to talking out of your ass retard youre not even near diamond if you can talk about "automatic win"
>>566351245 I am waiting for you to justify why you are claiming there are no green units in that defense. Explain your argument, you don't get to just ignore that you said something completely retarded and try to make demands of me.
Justify the retarded shit you said, until you do we all can tell you are just a retard who doesn't know what hes talking about.
>>566351349 Okay. i missed roberta. Now post your attack record with said team against enemy team with more than 5 in sample size. Prove your automatic win claim
>>566351436 >I didn't know what team you were talking about right, that isn't a justification that clears you it just means 100% of what you have said is about shit you didn't even know about.
Now, list the colours of the units on that team, so we know you actually know what units are on the team.
>>566351521 Okay i was wrong about the color. Now post your screenshot instead of theorycrafted mumbo jumbo that only takes the best case scenario situations
>>566351616 No, that isn't what I asked. Clearly you are unable to read as well as unable to tell the difference between colours.
List the colours of the units so we know what you know what units there are. Given your track record this has been thrown into doubt, after all, you yourself admitted that you didn't even know what units were on the team. After all, what is the point of posting a picture if YOU don't even know what units are on the team in question?
>>566351754 Okay so nothing to prove the claim of automatic win and your only fallback is a strawman when ive already mentioned that i was wrong about not seeing roberta? just say that its all headcanon and you dont actually have proof or that you're not high enough to see 2-3 teams with that comp every refresh
>>566351942 >"nooo you are not allowed to demonstrate!!!!!" >"just because I say retarded shit doesn't mean I am retarded!!!!" Prove to the class you are not retarded. You can whinge all you like but we can all see you don't even know the defense you are trying to claim shit about, after all, you don't even know what units are on it.
>>566352062 I'm not whining thoughbeit? im just asking for proof while saying i was wrong? have you missed the last 3 replies cause of the blood rushing to your head? Again i was wrong about the color now post your win rate im on my hands and knees begging to be poved wrong with your post that backs up the automatic win claim
>>566352202 >"n-n-no!!! I am not whining about anything!!!!' >"you are not to prove I am wrong!!!!!" Keep whinging buddy. We can all see you having a big sook trying to "prove me wrong" when its pretty clear you started shitposting without even knowing the team the chain of posts was talking about.
Until you can actually show you even know what the discussion is about I am done with you, keep crying all you like about it.
>>566363149 All depends on their half anni broadcast in a week. I personally do appreciate the game, but there's just way too many flaws right now to feel comfortable enough to keep investing time into it.
Pretty sad going from journey Trish who rapes everything and takes no damage to normal Trish who does nothing. Even if she had the usual 65//90/115 numbers of a single target savior she wouldn't be overpowered so I have no idea what they were thinking giving her 50/55/90.
>>566356071 I literally farmed speed hunts for pvp and craft spammed and still don't have a single speed/speed4 necklace, it's absolutely fucked how bad the gear farming is. Everything in this game is utterly demoralizing from the gold and crystal drought, to some characters needing 3 dupes to do anything. If they don't fix shit in the half anni I'm out.
>>566400193 They have to fix some of it otherwise the game is good as dead. I understand why people cope thoughever, because it genuinely is an adequate game, but its momentum nosedived with the same monotonous daily loop with no sense of progression. Like the other anons expressed, if nothing redeemable comes out of the half anni showcase, then it's time to hang it up unfortunately.
>log in >skip lobby cutscene so I can do chores >check mail for any daily gibs >do region dispatch, accept rewards >quickly alt tab after redispatching so I don't have to get ear raped by nanoda >collect 100% daily funding mats >collect first free paid currency funding >sweep 3/3 for diff resources 3 times >sweep cube palace >sweet flash point >sweep my daily mandated 3 floors of corridor >sweep 5/6 strategy battles in gauntlet for currency and daily missions >sweep 3/3 of the current event >redeem daily missions for currency >buy stuff from the event shop >fill out 8 squares on the event bingo board >go to the apocalypse store and check discounted weapons for anything good >buy free gold >go to the PAID store >buy free daily stuff >go to the guild, complete missions >level up guild via donations >collect daily gems from guild shop >go to friends list >collect daily pity friendship rolls >send friendship pity rolls to people I added >go to check-in events and redeem rewards >got books, go to tactical analysis and upgrade shit >go to storage and open all boxes with 1 hour duration because fuck you >check to see if I have 100x RNG SSR spark currency to use >check to see if I can convert any tokens for 10 standard tickets >check to see if observation has a mark because I have enough friendship rolls for a ten pull >get pic related >go to ranking and accept my free box from some spic from LatinosPRIME guild clearing content >go back to storage to open it for currency >do guild battle or cosmo gate for pity currency if it's up >go craft shop to spend my resources on gifts and T2 gear (get nothing good) >check to see if I can level up a combatant, good news...one went up from 194 to 195! >completed my daily chores on the laggy/slow transitioning menus after an hour, I'm ready to play! >see there is no new content so it's either throw myself at a wall in operations/corridor or do PvP >lose motivation and press Alt+F4 since the game has no exit button >close my eyes
>>566404016 This gacha requires so much time for daily chores yet you make no progress worth a damn for doing it once you've beaten hard journeys Honestly it's getting a bit much, in comparison my chores in NTE take 5 min tops
>check to see if observation has a mark because I have enough friendship rolls for a ten pull >get pic related Relatable
Scarcity danchou please don't remove me from the roster. I'm on an overtime crunch right now. Can't open the game until I'm finish with my deadlines. Gomen
>>566404016 Speaking of corridor, it just amplifies how sucks that it demand to have 3 teams of color yet they barely give gears to make one with misaligned element.
>>566422057 ah yes the gold cost, because that was the only issue with levelling, not just general resource problems. they took care of the gold, but it still takes way too many exp resources to make anyone max level. of which you have to farm 2 different types of exp. one for combatants and one for partners. the devs just put a band-aid on the issue with the gold decrease and moved on, and the players moved on because there was a lot of other pain points at the time. i still believe gear farming is a big problem in czn, and unlike ss where you just have the wrong but usable stats being rolled into, czn has straight up useless stats because of 'x elemental damage increase' being a stat you have to luck roll into the element of your character over there. or did that get fixed 'in a single fucking patch' sometime?
>>566445570 It was good when you got to do actual tactical shit like in dive 50 or some pvp comps but too often it was just dropping the same snowball comp and waiting for it to kill everything.
>>566446371 Dive 50 was cancer, that's the worst example you could've used. Before the 120 update you needed to use one of a few very specific set ups with specific characters and extremely strict timings to be able to complete it. That shit is anti-tactics. That said the 120 update and Awakened buffs largely killed off strategy in favour of snowballing with OP teams, it was before then that you actually got to use strategy in the challenge stages or hard battles.
>>566451778 Back when dive 50 was current content we saw plenty of wacky comps clear it. There was some jp dude who had base Hilde in his comp for example. The biggest problem with dive 50 was that it was hard to experiment because you needed info for every run and had to spend half an hour clearing the stages to get there, which also wasn't necessarily easy because you needed 4 teams to do it and some nodes were pretty jacked.
>>566401448 Feel like I've been saving to raise my last character to 190 for weeks. Then I somehow have to get everyone to 200. At this rate it will probably take 6 months with the pathetic drip of those star things.
>>566404016 >>go to friends list >>collect daily pity friendship rolls I forget this one at least 3 times a week, they hide it in a spot I almost never click so I forget it's even a thing.
>>566407551 It's very tedious even if it's fast. Menus don't load quickly. If you back out of many of them it won't take you to your previous screen but the main menu and you have to dig back through menus again to get where you want to go. Tons of things like doing one thing gives you some other dinky thing you have to go click to give yourself .0000001% more power like those dumb books. You have to click in so many places and shit like the friends is only found in one menu you shouldn't click and another that isn't really convenient so it's forgettable. Shit it was better in counterside post new origin. How do they keep devolving?
>>566445570 I don't have a screenshot but that challenge stage vs the tank oh yeah baby every newfag got bent over and it was funny to watch. If you know you know.
>>566453697 >Back when dive 50 was current content we saw plenty of wacky comps clear it. god, I remember someone posted an all-loli clear. what a great moment.
Finally pulled Bell's arcana and god damn, a whole-ass American Psycho scene was the last thing I expected to see in this random gook gacha... Impressive. Very nice.
>>566458270 >Menus don't load quickly. Menus are instant, this must be a phone problem. >If you back out of many of them it won't take you to your previous screen but the main menu and you have to dig back through menus again to get where you want to go. This is a pain in the arse though.
>>566463740 >Menus are instant, this must be a phone problem It isn't, I'm on steam with a blazing fast brand new pc. Just compare it to almost any other gacha and it feels like molasses.
>>566464787 >person who has only played one game thinks everything is ok because he has nothing to compare it to Honestly I'm jealous, you are the real boss baby.
>>566464338 >Just compare it to almost any other gacha and it feels like molasses. Gachas have shitty slow menus as per standard, the only gacha I've ever seen with faster menus than SS is the other SS.
>>566467161 Be careful, I remember asking about that and someone said it's actually not good to get her cooldowns too low. Something about taking too much extra damage and not being able to tank it.
>>566465086 >"nooo you are not allowed to point out my lack of computer knowledge!!" >"you are actually the one who doesn't know what hes talking about!!!!!" >"no you!! no you!!! no you!!!" you could have easily just listed a gpu and cpu and be done with but instead you decide to call it new, which is literally irrelevant, not to mention that no new relevant computer hardware that's going to make something perform better in a game has even came out this year and its been well over a year since anything relevant came out and you call it blazing fast?
lmao yeah you are just a retard keep coping about your "blazing fast brand new pc" and how its definitely everything else fault. guessing you overpaid 100-150% on it as well, lol
>>566473136 Happy to know I've been living rent free in your head all evening. Sadly for you I don't feel like having a childish slap fight so you'll just have to keep making up scenarios in your head. Hope you get some good sleep and feel better tomorrow.
>>566474508 >"i'm owning you so hard right now!!!!" Man gets offered a legitimate reason for his problem and gets upset that its absolutely not his fault at all and it MUST be others. Yeah its definitely others who are childish and not you projecting it on others because you want to try to seem like a super special big guy who absolutely couldn't be wrong.
If you don't want responses mocking you then you shouldn't have a whinge because you got told what your problem is. And it isn't evening, just because you spend your freetime crying about gacha games doesn't mean others do, I only post while I am at work.
>>566475293 Posted this from my blazing fast gateway computer that my uncle built for me btw. It was 900 dollars but he gave me a great deal. His name is otto and he escaped from east germany in the 80's. Swell guy but drinks too much, I worry about him sometimes.
>>566475293 my new blazing fast android phone has a new feature that lets me post into the past and I am here to tell you that we have confirmed without a shadow of a doubt that this is the moment you became a faggot
>>566476167 Now I get it, you're mad because I can repair my pc while you don't have the right to repair and have to buy the new yearly version that has a slight color swap and a 1% better camera for a 50 year loan.
It has literally been 3 weeks of me using every single bit of stam on hunts, and then crafting necklace with all the mats and I have still yet to get a single speed neck that's on crit set. Honestly hope this game goes eos and someone burns down the devs hq.
>>566490362 I would drop SS and never touch anything from BSide ever again. If they had really wanted to make Counterside 2 then we would be playing it right now. There would be no guarantee that it isn't just yet another 6 month pump and dump for the next experiment.
>>566490362 ah yes, counterside 2, the sequel to counterside 1, but the prequel to star savior. what the fucky borderlands pre-sequel bullshit is this?
>>566504040 Less and less is very different from making your selling point the exclusion of male characters. Male MC, girl only gacha games are basically dropping like flies.
>>566510873 you have miresi and kaleidorider If those games fail, it might be the end of male only protagonists in games where romance and intimate moments are actually canon to the story, particularly in China
>>566511146 Yeah I suppose. I'll have to try and keep supporting Star Savior in the meantime. >where romance and intimate moments are actually canon to the story I'd be crying over in the Snow Broken general if that's what I wanted.
>>566498247 I think with a hypothetical CounterSide 2, they'd probably look for ways to avoid having males. Toward the end, I don't event think they were bothering giving males units, even if they were a big part of the story. I suspect people would riot if they don't give Shiyoon and Jake a pass tho.
>>566517036 Choice. The whole point of a large cast of girls of all shapes, sizes and personalities. Pick the ones you like and engage with them however you like. Star Savior has this mostly correct. Where they're failing is the gameplay + game systems and menu clutter. I'm fine with them adding a marriage system and a dorm or dating system later since the Journeys have individual stories that should be sufficient as a starting point, and they can release alt outfits for sequel Journey stories. But we're approaching 6 months so I'd like to see them announce some concrete plans.
>>566516723 >I'd be crying over in the Snow Broken general if that's what I wanted Why would you not want that? Are you gay? Are you a cuck that gets off on plutonic friendship?
>>566524927 the thing that pisses me off is you get gold buff popups when your stamina is nearly empty and you have a 70% fail rate, bit when you rest back up to full it doesnt show up at all the next 4-5 nodes, especially at the final section
>>566524927 What really frustrates me for vit runs is when I have FOUR (4) fucking vit arcanas and shit rarely becomes gold even when their bonds are maxed. It's such a waste of time ffs.
>>566404661 >>566407551 >>566417320 >>566417559 You aren't playing the same game, menus take forever to load via transitioning animations, and lets say you navigate a menu for something from another menu, it won't return you to the previous menu and you need to exit out completely to the lobby and go back into the first menu from scratch Daily chores take at least 30 minutes
>>566519892 i don't see how jake could be part of the story unless there a very specific case for him personally. his whole character journey was completed in ep.8 with becoming friends with mason, and post ep.10, i don't remember him doing or appearing anywhere notable. jake's whole shtick was being the most powerful s-rank counter, but we have clearly powerscaled beyond him with regina, surya, chifuyu and others. understand he's still strong, but clearly not the strongest. shiyoon i can see making appearances in the story if it still focuses on admin, coffin company and fenrir squad. shiyoon is pretty much a completed character post ep.7, now just helping out his friends and the plot. Also the moment in ep.15 with his mom, great payoff though her calling him ‘hey handsome’ was a bit awkward… though have to say, mina is kinda stealing his thing with being able to also spatial cut when she taps into wolvesbane. actually, maybe not anymore considering post ep.15 makes her no longer the wolf and she’s just anapilis' antagonist, so...can she only use wolvesbane as just a sword now? no more tapping into prior mina skills? Shit, that could be a good starting off story to explain things out, especially if counterside 2 is not a line battler and a different type of game outright. imo, dream counterside 2 would be something like aether gazer, stage based action combat with control of one character and accompanied by ai companions, but the ai companions behavior is way more customizable. like artery gear if any of you oldfags remember that shit. this also lets bside reuse the mina model they made for star savior, but give her the hair change of her rearm like she was sporting at the end of ep.15.
>fei hard journey >pick 3rd choice to try get lifesteal buff >toughness +3 buff shows up >end the observation and restart it >fei hard journey >pick 3rd option to try get lifesteal buff >counterattack buff shows up AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>566535652 if we're fusing, it better all be into lummies. erp sesh with all the bwos, woooh! >>566539220 it took me like 12 or so fucking retries before i managed to get the lifesteal buff to show up. that run had bad rng and i nearly didn't get the fei's arcana skill. on that note, is there anyone in the roster who uses the counterattack buff? >>566544708 just wait till i get scarlet pregnant, then the only 'little boy' that will come to your mind, luna, is predicting the gender of our children! on a real note, luna was unironically best wingwoman in this event. scam oracle, but true harem wrangling wife
Honestly the gameplay/roster so far isn't so complex that you need to whale in order to figure out what's good. >Does the character scale off strength? Build strength. >HP? Build HP. >Going to use them in PVP? Speed first and then their main stat. >New banner dropped? Look at their skills and if they're specifically made to powercreep the prior meta (check leaderboards) then they're the new T0 (PVP only of course), otherwise T1. There, just saved you 500 refreshes on bullet's docky, you're welcome.
>>566579495 They announced half anni again with content Also he silently updated the spreadsheet without announcing he was stopping. So yea he's just being a bitch over Counterside's maintenance
>>566581813 I don't really know what else you expect when seething retard says "I wont update until Star Savior resumes normal operations", Bside were never not doing "normal operations", they show off half anni and even announce a stream, and then Bullet just backs off without further explanation. This was never about Star Savior, it was about Counterside, and hes coping and bargaining that he could single handedly hurt BSide.
>>566583217 >Bside were never not doing "normal operations" Right now the current event in Korea is a rerun, and it's barely a few months old. There are literally no other events on right now. If this is normal then there is something very wrong with the game.
>>566583852 >the point of half anni coming out on schedule Are you literally retarded? It can't not come out on "schedule" it's literally a date set in stone that you cannot change. The fact you think this is somehow a win is actually pathetic.
>>566584165 Let me requote the post >>566572819 >>I won't update the spreadsheet until the devs do something >>Devs do something >>Nah actually I quit Its not about a win, it's about how he quietly said hes done without waiting to see the content or what the devs had to say
>>566585463 the stream is even a week earlier than it had to be as they said in the last stream that anniversary is in the last week of may. they could've pushed it out to the 22nd. yet he still couldn't wait for it and is just done after playing NTE a couple times...
>>566592683 >no longer enjoying it >still actively trying to maintain his PvP rank per his last post I wouldn't be playing PvP slop if I hated the game Speed tuned PvP and randomly debuffing your speed for keks is the antithesis of fun
>>566583552 This was the norm even during the early days of CS. Every single event was just story, one or two hard stages and a new character release. As you may have noticed, BSide is not very good at creating events.
>>566531016 I was just thinking "who" and not "what", but you're right that most of the central cast of CS had a full character arc. Like, if you wanted it to keep going, you'd either change the focus to external conflict (which is way less emotional), or shift the focus to other characters (this was kind of happening with Noelle, and would've continued with Solovey). It's hard to imagine what kind of battle system Counter:Side 2 would have. Battle Cats is an unusual genre, but they did a lot of memorable stuff with it; the Liz deploy attack, A Yoom's moonwalk...
>>566599840 Counterside 'ended' at a spot that'd be pretty suitable for a time skip I think. You could maybe do a sort of soft reboot with the administrator working with new recruits and hold the Fenrir squad in reserve until the story escalates.
>>566519892 >Toward the end, I don't event think they were bothering giving males units, even if they were a big part of the story. Shiyoon's dad and his male mentor were among the last few units released.
>>566531016 There was room for story with Jake + the rest of Delta Seven with Karin and the rest of Pathfinder, but that's another plot thread left abandoned by the early closure. In any case a Counterside 2 using 3D models would be a shitshow because they'd have to cut 90% of the cast for production reasons. I don't know why anyone would think it's what Bside is planning to begin with.
>>566603326 >In any case a Counterside 2 using 3D models would be a shitshow because they'd have to cut 90% of the cast for production reasons. I don't know why anyone would think it's what Bside is planning to begin with. It'd be really funny if the plan was to fund the models via star seiba collabs.
>>566603326 ffs, seosaeng is NOT shiyoon's dad. that's joo han. thats why is name is freaking joo shiyoon! seosaeng was yeonhwa's (shiyoon's mom) destined love, who through countless reincarnations were fated to be together but die tragically each time. seosaeng sacrificed himself and wrote himself out of time to save the final world and yeonhwa from the tiger, with joo han being his replacement in the timeline
>>566647296 likely: big fat tiddies realistic (but we're still not getting it): gear presets unrealistic: something to do in game besides scratch at walls
>>566647296 Get rid of green and blue rarity gear completely T1 gear should not drop at hunt 10+ Engravings removed (just bake the engraving stats by default) Ability to lock and/or reroll substats Gear presets
>>566647296 Want: Repeatable roguelight mode with the journey items, monthly shop with multiple resources and rotating bonus for various saviors. Expect: QoL stuff, events and some gibs.
>>566647296 complete overhaul of all gear, gold, resonance mats etc. income from farming 10x on all mission rewards 5x on daily afk income 4x on event shop items repeatable content that isn't timegated, ticketgated, staminagated or blocked by way too high combat power ratings, let us play the damn game
>>566647296 >Daily mission reward us with Journey ticket or just make the first time journey free once a day >Guarantee T2 gold drop + a chance for purple and blue exp drop from hunt stage >2 weeks event duration instead of 3 weeks >More resources drop from stage overall
the gacha market is impossibly bloated without marketing, something novel or sufficiently attractive your game is doomed to sink from newer releases or older games having tight grips on their loyal playerbase
>>566674259 oh yes because marketing would save this game, it had big numbers at the start of global launch, the issue is the game system is fucking trash and everyone quit
>>566691628 eh. I feel like he has a point. A daily auto-journey would feel like more progress than skip through your hunts -> all T1's -> close window. >you get 5 per week from what?
>>566695871 you just get given 3 a week and then you average the repeating monthly login * 12 / 52 and you get 5 a week on average and that is without events, event stores, guild, flash point, etc
>>566698764 You get 2-3 gold gear from hoyoshit per run, you can get potentially 0 from 5 runs in this game. Keep telling yourself there's nothing wrong with it and chink games are worse though.
>>566700670 Why is your iq so room temp? This game did well at global launch, they even said on their stream they had a huge amount of users playing, look at it now. Marketing doesn't keep people playing, the game system is trash and people have quit, keep coping about muh marketing all you want but all the successful chink games with all their faults are still fundamentally better than this game.
>>566700961 Every f2p or live service game bleeds players, even your precious chinkshit. Guess what factor brings in new players to replace the ones that quit.
>>566702537 Yes keep coping and living in your own little delusional bubble where game quality is meaningless and everything is marketing. This game would be #1 is they marketed it well!! fucking delusional cocksucker.
>>566704994 Bell would be the closest thing to a counter. She still gets cucked 50% of the time but if she lands fei is basically dead in the water with her evasion buff getting dispelled, goodluck passing the 50% hilde check though.
>Smile auto journey clears at rank 61 What an absolute beast. That's a 9 rank deficit on the final boss and she just powers through it. Got a trash blessing though.
Ooo just got Harley from the friendship summon. Yay for friendship! >>566737006 >>566737093 Hopefully I'm not forced to pick between her and Gille. Then again I have 200 points ready to go so it shouldn't be unmanageable.
Is there a way to easily level up my characters? I'm looking in the Starlink and if I want to level my character, I need to individually select and load up each mat and it'll only do it for one level.
I remember in Nikke there was an easier way where I would select the level I wanted, and it would automatically select all the material boxes I needed to get to that level. Does Star Savior have that but I'm not seeing the right button?
>>566750042 I'd put bunny charlotte on side 2 instead of lacy since you can stack the boss debuff pretty high with charlotte+haydee+waltz ult, side 1 its mainly just buffing roberta and making sure she can spam her skill as much as possible so if you got harley+omega arcana thats a big buff for her output
>3-1 in cube palace >Ran through finally made it to 3-5 even if I failed there >Sudden server update >Progress went back to 3-1 I don't think I want to login for tomorrow bwos...
>>566773865 I finished my dailys but thought the servers were being super pissy and continually disconnecting me when I did a pvp gauntlet match manually
>>566788327 both sides dont have boss speed buff and level 2 'max HP reduced when using skill' debuff, everything else turned on at max, since level 3 HP debuff means waltz/bunny charlotte gets stuck at 15/20% HP when bosses do their ultimate and get killed and level 2 lets them tank it
>>566811767 >>566813621 thanks bwos! whichever of you is right, appreciate the answers still >>566814116 already got her. she's fun. tried creampieing her and i think her womb got that 50% evasion passive as well. oh well, might as well try again. keep nutting, else i'll get nothing. though 10 kids is a bit much imo
>>566816895 No that doesn't guarantee it either. Had a case where I deleted them at the end and still got the one that wasn't even related to the other 2 I deleted.
>>566816696 easily the most fucked part of journey. because you think you have it right until the end. >>566816895 you can still get bricked if you only have crit items.
>>566817516 I'm no bullet but my quick look tells me she's a defender killer. Should be relatively good for pvp and whenever there's a defender boss in pve.
>>566817323 not my haydee... >>566817430 >>566817438 >arcana is copypaste of another standard so its a easy skip if you already have that standard >arcana is unique with super busted effect/journey stats I dunno which irks me more
>>566817323 >Still no new meaningful content and just the same event structure every time.
Man, they really need to go hard on Anniversary. I'm on account maintenance mode. Only thing that would excite me is Journey 2 with new mechanics and stuff but i don't think we will be getting that anytime soon.
>>566817323 >Skill gets a 60% DMG bonus against defenders per stack of Thorns of Ruin >Thorns stack up to 3 times for 180% bonus damage >Ult inflicts a stack on every enemy and 3 stacks on the enemy with the highest defense >Burst on ult grants an extra turn >Basic automatically uses skill when the enemy has 3 stacks lmao Feels like bad design if their solution to whatever's meta in PvP is to introduce characters that only exists to destroy it.
>>566818570 >Feels like bad design if their solution to whatever's meta in PvP is to introduce characters that only exists to destroy it. I'm thinking Ryuko played Epic Shit.
>>566817323 >first playable baddie >this mid-ass kit bside when she's being called a 'baddie' that doesn't mean you make her a bad unit! ffs now im worried what dumb shit they've thought of for gille, carnelia and evil asherah's kits guess i'm heading into the livestream with dooming on my mind only good bit of this update is getting to gang up on the twins with guild bwos (the few that remain anyway...)
>>566817323 >>566818570 >kit designed to counter tank meta in pvp >arcana is a copypaste of lyras I dunno, I pretty much use bunny charlotte as my main sun dps, only thing making me like evil chick is her 1 crazy eye animation
>>566817516 the analysis is they are about to release the nemesis of every defender class in pvp couple this with her scaling kit(def shred and dmg buff the more stacks the enemy has), along with an increased toughness damage buff, she's one of the best pve units too
>>566821947 I've been stuck on the same operation for over a month now, not even joking. There's just nothing you can even do for CP at a certain point, sat here for a month to get my shit to 200, upgraded to potential 10 on my 4 main characters and I STILL can't beat the stage.
This game contains content that may not be suitable for all ages: Veiled Nudity, Sexual Themes, and Fantasy Violence. Characters in the game may appear in revealing outfits during gameplay or cutscenes. However, the game does not contain any depictions of sexual acts, non-consensual sexual content, sexual assault, or drug abuse.
>>566839545 'does not contain depictions of': >sexual acts no seggs for ashera or alicia >non-consensual sexual content no muriel rape >sexual assault ...well that one's a lie going by kyra arcana >drug abuse no getting high of bell's musky armpits, or lyn's sweaty butt all in all, aside from the lie, sounds like a pretty boring game ngl
>>566519892 >Toward the end, I don't event think they were bothering giving males units, even if they were a big part of the story very late reply, but i remember they released two dudes around the end. The tigerblood guy he should have been Hahadad, that was the only thing i didn't like about that storyline, and the knight of the lake (i doubt anyone asked for that nigga) >I suspect people would riot if they don't give Shiyoon and Jake a pass tho Give me Hahaman, Jake, Mason, and Curian. The rest can be NPCs. Nobody cares about male Karin, and i personally wasn't that big a fan of Binman or Roy
>>566603326 >I don't know why anyone would think it's what Bside is planning to begin with. >inb4 they replace the battlecats gameplay, and it becomes a musou game
I have to make a confession. I've already spiritually quit the game. I still lurk the general but my heart isn't in it anymore. Don't know what happened, had a blast those first couple weeks. I have almost all the characters and I'm sitting on a mountain of rolls. But I just can't bring myself to login. I'm sorry.
>>566913973 Did they fix the czn story? Was thinking of checking it out but remembered that they were supposed to rewrite it because it was cuckshit like brown shart 2 or something.
>>566914092 The CZN story just hard pivoted in the other direction: >handjob onee-san: how dare you insult, anon-kun Which, desu, is fine? They're soulless, but they know it and it's just going to be endless coom + Chrono Ark.
>>566915657 I rather not have schizophrenic jealousy going on and blowing up everything like what happened to the two friends that made Sunborn/Girls Frontline
>>566915842 Real talk, I never found CZN that appealing, then the NTR thing happened and stayed away. I'm not picking sides, just calling Bullet a retard. Maybe he has Stockholm syndrome, who knows.
>>566916003 He has super autism, he picks games with non standard gameplay that allow for endless grinding. We lost a real one, the community will never recover.
>>566916267 Even as a rich person that kind of spending seems idiotic. Then again, Koreans right now have become justs as lifeless as the Chinese with their mentality. >>566916770 Its definitely grief, I'm sure if Counterside 2 got announced he would come running back and sing songs of praises. And honestly, even AAA and in the Indie space, there just hasn't really be any games worth investing time in. Its fucking sad. I've finally started working on my decades long backlog.
>>566917517 >Its definitely grief oh yeah, totally this and not the fact the game sucks, bullet is the ONLY one that quit and everyone else is still playing right
Tyria seems like an interesting unit her ultimate skill ratio is pretty low, but its obviously a setup skill with the extra turn stuff and the buffs/debuffs her special skill ratio isn't that high either, but she has the def pen obviously which means she does a lot of damage
interesting unit, making her red when the most common defender to run into is emily is a shame
her arcana is just a worse version of lacy's right? you get HP instead of focus as the secondary stat, which is better, but you get less stamina than lacys which shits out stamina at each event
>>566920376 Her Arcana is basically Lacy's so its not even worth unless you dont already have that Save your mileage for Gille who is going to be a Cosmic unit
>>566921137 That is the problem with idle style game events. They need to be accessible to new players, so they are usually very easy or are something completely different that doesn't use your units levels/power/etc so they are not often challenging on engaging content
>>566922684 I have a dozen characters at reso 9, you don't need more than that right now. Don't tell me you haven't been farming the resonance stage since launch...?
>>566924002 its both a blessing and a curse but overall this gacha system is way way way better than other pity systems specially since you can just stack Guarantees and any character can show up in the pool.
>>566924002 Only 2 games have the best pity system in kusogeland in 1 year or 2 you will end up with 10 stacked pities with no need to use it on anything
>>566924450 Pretty much, Dimensional gives a 15% ATK buff while Alicia doesn't and you potentially don't get all your extra nova force points if you don't get to attack every single turn that its active while Dimensional gives them all up front.
>>566923453 The Nip and Chink sites I used (even when Bullet was still around) are saying as of now to use Insight Valor, along with either AX or EX Potentials for both PvP and PvE
do we have an alternative to the bullet spreadsheet, since that's not getting updates? If not, is there anything specific the new chick needs, or can i just slap insight and valor on her like most of the other strikers?
>>566914656 >>566913973 holy KEK CZN wonnered BIGLY yet again Glad SS was only a side game for me, never quit CZN and its half anni is a million times better than whatever bside will shit out
>>566705109 Just ban both of them lol I ban Hilde every game to make counterside cucks and pvptrannies seethe, never have I been blocked by hilde's P2W arcana
>got Tyria in 30 pulls >have 210 mileage and 32k gems >have yet to clear the event and buy out the shop
I am very tempted to roll for 3 more copies of Tyria for that 25% DEF ignore, and also her arcana though I already have an MLB Lacy arcana. Should I just steel myself and wait for half-anni news or go for broke? I don't got any good red units and I need all the help I can get.
>>566924002 The ideal one would be pity and no limited pool. But I only see one game so far that do this post-mihomo apocalypse. My gripe with this gacha system is pretty much the rate-up character doesn't instantly enter the standard pull for spook despite you need dupes for home screen collection.
>>566931398 Her passive and her kit are kinda iffy. You can trigger normal skill just by basic attacks, but at the same time you still want to use normal skill for speed up. Yet, using normal skill will just delete all the stacks that you've built.
>>566917517 I don't understand the counterside bros. They knew for years that it was one step away from EoS and now that it's happening, they're acting shocked like they didn't expect it. Now they're blaming it all on star savior when it's been in life support even before star savior was released.
>>566932579 Does she? I can see it on journey and can't really test in on operation because I'm on blue chapter(her gear still sucks anyway, thanks bsdie)
>>566932386 idk about the other cs bros, but for me, it's the way it ended. it felt for a while like we were limping to an ending, with all hopes on ep. 15 being a messy, convoluted but hopefully decent sendoff. reality is, kinda got something like that for the most part, but ep. 15 ended with so many big cliffhanger threats and unfinished stories (beelzebub, gha'agsheblah civil war, carlotta somehow still being alive, serapel, asimov, not to mention rosaria and tammiel still being alive, alongside the reveal of an even bigger bad than tammiel, the first beast. basically setting up a whole season of more story at least). instead the characters just brush it off as a problem for another day, trying to end on a positive-ish note but just ending up being awkward. i knew the game was going to die, only reason cared was the story and i wanted the tale to end with dignity, everything wrapped up and feeling whole. instead it felt more like holding the hand of a terminal friend in the icu, with the guy smiling and lying that he's happy, despite having and wanting to say and do so many more things, only dying a slow, painful early death. feels bad and hurts bwo
