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Fine Art Edition
Last Thread: >>566220835

>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png
>PSA: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII | https://rentry.org/shillfilter

▶Cloud Services
https://featherless.ai
https://novelai.net
https://openrouter.ai

▶Frontends
https://koboldai.org/cpp
https://sillytavern.app
https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad-qt
https://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad

▶Additional Information
>Chat Models — e.g. AetherRoom, Claude:>>>/vg/aicg
>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen:>>>/g/lmg

▶Game(s)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620

▶Tools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/
Scripts: https://naiscriptvault.com/
NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collection
Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-misceIIany
>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

▶/aids/ Events
Themed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays
>Theme Fridays have transformed into Theme Months!
>Write for May's theme, Isolation! >>565826615

▶Model News
>(04/24) DeepSeek releases V4: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news260424
>(03/31) NAI releases Xialong: https://blog.novelai.net/welcome-novelais-newest-writing-model-xialong-ecde7d21d111
>(02/23) NAI updated its Canvas: https://blog.novelai.net/image-generation-canvas-update-new-tools-better-performance-and-3d-support-cbbc54c1d89d
>(02/12) Z.AI releases GLM-5: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5
>(02/05) Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4–6

▶Thread News
>(03/07) Anon updates his frontend: >>559652987 https://files.catbox.moe/930fvy.html
>(02/05) Emacs Update: https://files.catbox.moe/6r6wxg.el
>(01/16) Anon makes a Mikupad Screenshot Script
https://github.com/LordFoogThe4rd/mikupad-screenshot
>(11/17) Anon makes a Mikupad Guide
https://rentry.org/MikupadIntroGuide
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TWO MORE WEEKS! TWO MORE WEEKS! TWO MORE WEEKS! STRONG AETERROOM COMEBACK WILL SAVE THE HOBBY! TRVT THE PLV-AAAAAAACK
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Where is the shill who was saying that everything was going well and that there were no problems?
https://x.com/novelaiofficial/status/2052788333500129682
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>>566290179
Wonder why it took them this long to give up
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>>566290340
I imagine internally they gave up a long time ago but like custom modules they wanted to make sure it would never be a thing again.
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>>566290340
Because they wanted to make it and the people were asking for it.
It's a good thing to see a dev team willing to put the work in even if it takes a long time.
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tfw my NDA as an aetherroom tester is actually for life kekw
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>>566291963
RIP lol
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>keep generating images of mean bitch girls putting their crotch into the camera
>stories of forced face sitting
I need to stop ...or do I?
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>>566294290
Nah have fun.
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>>566294290
May I ask your prompt for the images?
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Meanwhile, given the data was used for Xialong, it's more likely they're rolling it under it rather than making a whole new website.
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>>566295093
It's a pain in the ass and doesn't work well most of the time. I added random shit to try to coax it.
2.0::panties focus, panties close-up, crotch cclose-up, crotch focus, view under skirt,:: 1.5::low angle, from below,::

view under skirt can probably be under skirt and low angle isn't even a Danbooru tag, so that can probably be dropped.

I sometimes use this as a vibe too because it has the body and face
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8268103?q=mikoscrub+sewayaki_kitsune_no_senko-san+
You'll see a bunch of broken spines or be laying on their backs.

This was using a character reference, catbox probably not needed here, but you can see it can work.
https://files.catbox.moe/gay0vi.png
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>>566297224
Thank u bro.

in return have this absolute abomination from the earliest days of imagegen.
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>>566297224
You might try the e621 tags: "low-angle view", and "worm's-eye view". Also "foreshortening", and "facesitting pov". Should work in anime mode just fine too.
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>>566299743
I'll give those a try tonight, thanks.
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>>566298184
We've really come a long way.
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>>566298184
Still crazy that one this is what we were posting here, and then like later that same year Stable Diffusion came out.
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>>566302167
I'm pretty sure this *was* me playing with the SD leak on my 3080 and 240x240 was all I could do.
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>>566290179
Don't make me say something negative about Russia and make you close the tab again.
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>>566304463
yeah, craiyon was a lot more rudimentary
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>>566297224
I hope V5 is better at it.
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Reading it, it sounds like they were stretched too thin and made the mistake of wanting a complete product upon release instead of having a perpetual beta.
https://blog.novelai.net/project-update-formal-cancellation-of-aetherroom-28eec9bcc0b8
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>>566299743
Added all the tags for now, but they actually do seem to help.
Good shit.
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>>566308810
They may not have been able to wrangle the quality and consistency that they wanted either
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>>566290179
I remember when everyone was posting how shit, badly managed, and buggy it was. But the shill was doing huge damage control.
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>>566313070
Are you really going to make up bullshit about a cancelled product just to shit up the thread?
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>>566313363
Threads are archived, shill
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/518879362/
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>>566313363
Yes because I'm not on cocksucking duty right now.
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>>566314585
One 'leaker' isn't "everyone" and you know that, weirdo.
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This is the part where whinefag accuses everyone of being a shill when he's pitching about something not releasing that he never gave a fuck about in the first place.
I bet this will last about a month before he gets bored.
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>>566313363
Lmao retarded bootlicking shill, now that it's cancelled this is your new cope?
>>566290340
They essentially gave up on December 2024 when they fired the team making training data. Anything after that was just trying to keep a slim hope alive without actually investing.
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>>566315498
Why do you care so much about a cancelled product?
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>>566315542
Distracts me from the ache in my tummy from all the cum.
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Meanwhile, anyone who actually cares about chatbots has already moved on to scripting with Xialong instead of whining about some mismanaged product not coming out.
Weird how a certain someone cares more about whining than doing anything productive!
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>>566315542
You tell me faggot. I know for a fact they aren't paying you, because they couldn't even handle paying people to actually WORK on it.
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>>566315861
You're the one whining about it being canceled. Everyone else doesn't care.
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Here you go, weirdo. Use one of these instead of whining about the service you care so much about not coming out. These things happen; sometimes plans don't work out. It would be a much better use of your energy than this bizarre
>NAIPhone
https://files.catbox.moe/a4wq8u.naiscript
>AetherAtHome
https://files.catbox.moe/8hfosz.naiscript
>SomethingRoom
https://files.catbox.moe/ltt4xm.naiscript
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>not just hiding his inane garbage
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It isn't about how the product is cancelled, shills. Everyone with a brain knew it was shit with no future.
It's about exposing how much shilling happened here and how much one poster in particular was trying to do damage control.
Shill general full of shills.
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>>566315661
*anyone who actually cares about chatbots yet still wants to use NovelAI beyond image gen
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>>566316832
Why are you pretending like Xialong doesn't exist?
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>>566316826
AetherRoom really must have meant a lot to you to hallucinate nonexistent shills existing despite people telling you the had no interest in AeR. I'm glad it got canceled. Why aren't you?
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>>566316993
why are you pretending like /aicg/ doesn't exist? that's where the people who just care about chatbots went, that's where they are
why would someone wait for a co-writing model and scripting to use chatbots? that's retarded and ignores the length of time it took for these things to come into existence
by their arrival, all there was WERE people who actively wanted to use novelai for text gen who care about chatbots, everyone else was already long gone
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>>566317732
Why do three separate scripts for chatbotting with NAI exist if everyone went to /aicg/? That kind of disproves your assertion. That the scripts exist shows that people want to chatbot with NAI.
Square that circle for me.
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So what happened to the last thread? Also what was your last adventure?
I pretty much remade anomaly coffee machine and corrupted the chic with evil drinks
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>>566318732
Died overnight from lack of eastern hemisphere users.
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>>566318732
I had to sleep
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>>566318029
>Why do three separate scripts for chatbotting with NAI exist if everyone went to /aicg/? That kind of disproves your assertion.
no, it doesn't??
>That the scripts exist shows that people want to chatbot with NAI.
it proves, of novelai's users, that some want to chatbot with NAI, which is my point.
the usecase of chatbotting is already fulfilled by services and frontends that have existed longer than aetherroom, and people who just want to use chatbots are and have been using them, like they were before aetherroom was announced
i guess you're welcome to prove that, of everyone using chatbots, the majority are using the three chatbotting usecripts specifically for novelai with a model locked to the $25 tier... that didn't exist until this year. that would prove that the people who want to chatbot with NAI aren't pre-existing NAI fans
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>>566290340
The situation was probably a tug of war with just as many factors pushed them to keep Aetherroom alive as there were reasons to kill it.
On one side
>Every chat service is censored, rudimentary, mismanaged, or all three the bar is low.
>Chat runs fine on older, cheaper models, so the cost of entry isn’t huge.
>You could launch something mediocre and still be a major player.
On the other side
>There are already hundreds of shit chat services cluttering the space.
>Most of them are just character card and proxy front ends.
>The existing user base is mostly story and image generation, not chat‑focused.
>They reportedly wanted a “finished,” low maintenance product so they wanted to put a absolutely perfect first foot down.
>It was never clear if or why it needed to be a separate service in the first place.
Could they have forced it out the door? Probably. But the real question is why bother? Especially when most of the work they did for Aetherroom ended up feeding directly into NAI anyway.
And because I like tank allegories here’s the story of Panzer IV vs. VK 30.01(H).
Germany, pre‑WWII and early‑war, wanted a heavy infantry support tank with solid armor and a short, punchy 75mm gun. The funny part is that the Panzer IV already was that, just classified as a medium tank. But they were fixated on the idea of a heavy tank filling that role, so they started developing the VK 30.01(H) basically a slightly larger Panzer IV.
By 1942, the VK project only made sense if it could mount weapons the Panzer IV couldn’t. But the Panzer IV was already being upgraded with the long 75mm anti‑tank gun, and the Tiger program was underway. The VK had no niche left. It was just redundant
Aetherroom was the VK. NAI was the Panzer IV. One already existed, already worked, and already had a clear role. The other was a heavier, more complicated version of something they didn’t actually need.
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>>566319138
Why are you pretending like you don't understand what everyone means? You claimed EVERYONE into chatbotting uses /aicg/. I showed you that isn't the case.
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It's also weird how you're still bringing up AeR. It got canceled, bro. I never cared about it. You do you; I'll stick with NAI and SillyTavern, and you can keep pining for it to get resurrected.
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>>566319496
nope, i said "the people who ->just<- care about chatbots" after correcting your earlier assertion of "anyone who actually cares about chatbots" to "anyone who actually cares about chatbots yet still wants to use NovelAI beyond image gen", which is a very specific difference you left out.
i'm not sure why the correction is annoying you this much, you seem to not care one bit about all who don't fit the bill of "wants to use NovelAI beyond image gen" in the first place so the correction should hardly matter to you
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>>566320040
In other words, you're just being a pedant for the sake of being a pedant. Why?
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>>566295890
Decent odds the skeleton of Aetherroom is repurposed as a third mode for text gen. Probably loses some of the fancy bells and whistles, but we get a ‘chat’ option.
Might actually be what finally drives them to work on images inside text since people really like to stare at the picture of the character they are raping/getting raped by.
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>>566320117
i just told you, it's a specific difference
mine acknowldges that chatbotting primarily exists outside of novelai and yours conflates the chatbot interest with nai userscripts and an nai co-writing model.
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>Working on an ultraviolent "parody of urban America" kind of scenario in AIRL where the MC's main goal is to survive, kick ass and get rich.
>Ask gemini to generate the factions, using inner city stereotypes, including gangs, cops, citizens.
>First faction it generates is "Watermelon Warriorz - Black gangbangers who blast trip hop from lowriders and sling fentanyl-laced fried chicken."
I was not expecting that, to be honest.
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>>566320385
I hope you have fun with the scripts; otherwise, if you had no interest in them, being a pedant about this makes no sense.
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>>566320670
you're not very good at this, anon
still, good talk
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>>566209654
>wipe mouth with sleeve
>leave crumbs, sauce and rice on it
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>>566320737
>you're not very good at this, anon
I just wanted to share scripts with people who wanted to chatbot with NAI to make the whine shut up about AeR being cancelled.
>still, good talk
I don't consider unnecessary arguments 'good'.
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>>566320356
Figured you would be all for reusing old projects.
You guys reused 1940s tank destroyers as clean up vehicles at Chernobyl.
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>>566320720
Shut up retarded Russian
Ohhhh nooo, welp, gotta close the tab now. Made fun of your precious country.
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When will the new imagegen model arrive? Is it getting abandoned? We need an insider to show off screenshots of the behind the scenes chaos.
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>>566311403
Given how more and more companies are demanding mandatory ID and sites like Chub having to restrict NSFW and NSFL, I can see the angle that maybe they didn't want to deal with that, given their focus on being freely hush and hush NSFW.
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>>566323496
Yeah, that's true
The target audience for chatbot users aren't exactly quiet
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>>566332957
Panty…
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Oh my
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In the older NAI models I remember author's notes being fucked because the way it worked was it took whatever you wrote in there and force inserted it three lines up from the end of your current context. Apparently in Xialong the way the AI reads it is entirely different, it's like a whole secondary system prompt so you can write prose in it and it just works. Since I found out I've been writing random shit in that box to see how it changes my outputs. It's good fun.
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>>566332957
Good cornholin'!
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You cannot win.
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Anyone remember Z-Image? It was a strong natural language local image generator released a few months back. I tried it and shared it here, decided it was promising but not useful for me, since it couldn't do anime properly.
Well, someone released a proper anime fine-tune of it:
https://huggingface.co/SeeSee21/Z-Anime
It's pretty good. This is natural language first, tags only optional at the end for spice if you want, not needed at all. Runs about the same speed as SDXL local does.
The big problem right now: Heavily undertuned on NSFW. They admit this in the huggingface model. It doesn't do genitals or penetration well.
BUT, now that there's a proper anime tune of it, it's probably not too long until we see Z-Anime tunes popping up on civit and the other usual places for NSFW. I've been having fun with it, I use it for basically anything besides NSFW instead of my old SDXL local, which has become porn-only.
It's been a very long time since any good local imagegen news came out, so I'm looking forward to tunes of this one instead of the 10000th Illustrious/Pony/n00b tune
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>>566338276
Oh, that's good. I hope we do get some good fine tunes
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I love pussy and I'll never understand faggots
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>>566341590
I like bussy and pussy.
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>>566341590
I dunno senpai. I like boobs and vaginas and nice curvy womens, I like dicks and balls on big hairy muscular men.
I don't like them mixed together though. Futa/tranny shit is disgusto.
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>>566341590
>posts anime
>calls others faggots
>hurr durr anime site! I suck dicks!
Being an anime site doesn't un fagmatize you, ass slurper.
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>>566338276
More options is always good.
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>>566338276
Anima will save us
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>>566342670
I'm keeping an eye on anima too, but I'm afraid the non-commercial license might limit the compute people are willing to spend giving it a proper nsfw tune. We'll see
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>>566342403
Cope fagger
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>>566342880
Fag coper. Which is what you are.
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>>566341590
>>566342403
>>566342880
>>566343658
You are both niggers.
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>>566286770
Perhaps we can add this to the OP?
https://github.com/Pasta-Devs/Marinara-Engine
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>>566347406
Calling on those wattpad vectors
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>>566345154
This, but everyone in this thread.
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>>566355336
Cool, but now make her flat
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https://files.catbox.moe/pci2q2.png
https://files.catbox.moe/fi9p8m.png
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>>566286770
very cool picture
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>>566297224
>typo in your prompt
come on
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https://files.catbox.moe/d6dn56.png
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>>566367658
Interesting translucency
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>>566368120
It surprised me too so I rolled with it.
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>>566368148
Are ya winning, son?
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Picture this.
Genetically modified vegetables that you can cook and eat. But, you can also use them as living fleshlights.
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>>566375842
Do they also like to sing about the Bible?
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>>566386006
Wait a second that's not a fat pussy
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https://files.catbox.moe/u61cc0.zip have some vore cards
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Catbox links are like a box of chocolates. You never know what kind of kino you're gonna get.
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>>566388054
But wot if i told you exactly what each chocolate was like i dun did.
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>>566290179
Multiple years and millions of dollars, for something anyone can vibecode in a few minutes.
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>>566290179
KEKAROO OHNONONO YOUR USERBASE DID THE WORK FOR YOU, SEVERAL TIMES OVER
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>>566390560
The actual AI was complete dogshit, that was apparently the problem.
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>>566390879
Xialong definitely is, he sucks with the aetheroom scripts because he won't shut the fuck up and keeps yapping
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>>566391036
It was probably trained without an EOS token.
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>>566391036
Have you even tried SomethingRoom?
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>>566286770
I hadn't been playing with LLMs in a long time, quite impressive. It's from Behemoth-X which I think is a new Mistral model tune, it's surprising that ginormous models like that get finetuned.
Amazing that this is possible but the sizes of the models still limit local use, I neither want to send my shitty smut tokens over to some cluster nor buy 4 GPUs.
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>>566393620
>pick up a nearby chair and break it over her head
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>>566290179
Wait, Claudefag was... right??? How is this even possible? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>566397241
I mean, NAI is never going to catch up to Claude. At this point they should keep textgen up in order to be a "bunker service" for the day Anthropic finally kicks coomers out of claude, but their imagegen is actually what's good now.
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>>566405462
kek
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>>566396163
that's no way to treat a goblinlady
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>>566411547
:(
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>literally called AIDS
MY FUCKING SIDES!
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>>566290179
I don't understand how it can be that hard to make a SillyTavern clone that plugs into only one API (which you also control). Hell, SillyTavern works fine with Xialong.
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>>566416570
It's hard because they didn't want to just make a SillyTavern clone. They wanted to make a full product with multiple unique selling points because the chatbot sphere is full of competitors and they needed to make a bang with AR if they wanted it to make it. If they just made a SillyTavern clone, the prevailing opinion would be "lmao why did they even bother".
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AetherRoom cancelled, not really surprising but I held hope that the miracle project would somehow happen. As years went by you started to understand the project was a little too ambitious for the quality they wanted that even bigger companies struggle with.
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https://files.catbox.moe/h6tktk.png
Whew
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>>566423895
very scary
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>>566414647
lol
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>>566430343
The Ultimate Soldier...
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>>566432015
The sixteenth student, lying hidden somewhere in this school. The one they call the Ultimate Despair. Watch out for her.
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>an 'intern' (to5ally a staff member alt) leaked the proper formatting AeR used
>it's been used for the 'SomethingRoom` script
>dev says that's the 'most AeR-like` (deliberate evasion)
This only convinces me they abandoned it because of legal mumbo jumbo and payment processir bullshit and gave the user base everything they need to do it without their involvement
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>>566401436
Claude is a shit service that infringes in your privacy. Now, you're free to not care about that all you want. But don't get it twisted.
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>>566389692
Can you show me your vibe coded project?
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>>566438654 (me)
Posted too soon. And for making me suck cock and loving it.
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>>566438654
This, but we should remove them just cause we don't like them.
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>>566439556
You will never replaced him, unlike your shitty snow country, that is.
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>>566440352
Gone, but never forgotten. I miss him.
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they'll cancel v5 too
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>>566440546
Imagine his reaction to CF replacing him.
>THAT FUCKMONGER REPLACED ME?! DASFASSADASGAFSAFAS
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>>566441895
Maybe make a couple of posts on the club about it.
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>>566442051
Oh man I forgot about that era
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>>566290179
All they had to do was rip-off a chatshit front-end and implement their image gen so it could generate images on demand, what the fuck man. At worst they had to train their model to also be better at chatshit and give it some instructions, is that so hard?
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>>566441895
Maybe he's out there somewhere, living a fulfilling life...
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That's a very weird cancellation, because it's never been easier than it is today to make software. I bet it's legal issues. That's why I never consider quitting my day job and working on my front-end more to publish it
>make uncensored chat adventure gaem
>suddenly get called a pedo by 100+ countries all with different laws on if text sex is legal or not, sued unless you have lawyers
Honestly making the thing is the EASY part, it's being able to offer zero data retention, no logging that would be hard legally. And even if you prevail, you're fighting lawsuits accusing you of faciliating csam every day, it's gotta be exhausting.
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>>566443234
They didn't want a forever beta product, they wanted a game that wouldn't ever need updates. Kuru wanted it to hook up to VR and make it so you could climb mountains with your waifu. Feature creep at its finest.
Also, have you seen the chat bot market? Its unhinged and would attract censorship happy freaks. Chub is already banned in several nations and restricts what you see, requiring a VPN for a decent chunk of the world.
And that is without getting into payment processors
PayPal already hates NAI. Being associated with a chat bot would invite more scrutiny.
Maybe when the tides change and NSFW isn't so looked down upon they'll revisit the idea, but right now its a shit fest.
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>>566450675
Well it'd be less paypal censorship, and more google/apple appstore censorship that'd be the revenue cucker. NAI chatshit could have done crazy numbers as a subscription app that's easy to access and lets you generate images.
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with each step, as she did so
swaying back and forth
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That feeling when the AI isn't content to just kill you, he has to diss you to boot.
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>>566454242
I just put on a video essay to listen to while I work and I just heard two "they did not just do X, they did Y" in the span of three minutes and it's only been five minutes of listening
Time to find a new video essay, I think
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>>566456486
I hate hearing AI slop phrases spoken by humans in YouTube videos. Bro, if I wanted ChatGPT's take on this, I'd just ask it myself.
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>>566459074
Seriously, what's the fucking point? If I wanted to listen to an AI slop podcast, I'd use notebooklm and take a deep dive into the power dynamics of whatever the fuck
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I despise that Mr. Beast dead eyed faggot with every fiber of my being.
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>>566461041
valid
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Any of you guys tried messing with Xialong's system prompts? Any luck with that?
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>>566465360
Yeah, I modified my 4.6 sysprompt and added a prefill with a faux "author's note" emphasizing that he needed to slow the fuck down and that's helped me a lot in that regard.
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>>566468673
Any side by sides?
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>>566468828
I can't be assed to do side by sides with what boils down to starting from a blank prompt. They asked, I answered that it works for me.
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Had a little giggle at this /v/ thread earlier
Why are people so fucking dumb, especially when it comes to AI?
>>>/v/738553435
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>>566474262
holy fucking kek, my sides
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Fresh prompt: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7916
>My life has been thrown into complete chaos. Now, I'd basically gotten used to being a lonely gay guy occasionally performing heterosexuality for the outside world. It was rather sad, but I'd gotten used to it. But recently, for some ungodly reason, the most beautiful men I could imagine have just been throwing themselves at me, and I, a nervous introvert, got scared and ran every time, suspecting foul play. And foul play was indeed involved. But when a young man with angel wings and a bow stands in front of my door, I realize that my life might never be the same again...
Alright, made it in under the line with this one, posting on Sunday. Expanded on the basic idea I got from someone in the thread and gave it my own touch. So get boyfriended by a cupid that tried so hard on you but failed every time, so the only option that's left is to do it himself.
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>>566491253
Oh, very nice
I'm sure that anon will be quite pleased
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so how's xiaolong? any noticeable differences for a 'casual' gooner who never fucked with any sliders other than randomness?
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>>566437981
I mean, yeah, it's a corpo model, what else would it be. Realistically though, the amount of noise Anthropic processes means anything I do with Claude basically undetectable unless they find my account.

>>566438152

"BOOXING"
https://files.catbox.moe/4wet4p.html
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>>566495307
It never shuts the fuck up
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boomp
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>>566495307
I feel like it's better, but it can't really be used on its default settings, because the low randomness makes it fall into very predictable patterns. I use a fairly spicy preset and also have a changed system prompt and I like the results, but I have no empirical evidence or anything like that, it's just vibes.
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>>566508790
out of the other NAI models is anything before Kayra worth using? We used to call llama "llamaballs", is it still llamaballs in its third rendition? Are we judging Xiaolong vs Kayra, not versus llama?
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>>566510431
>out of the other NAI models is anything before Kayra worth using?
Nope. Krake and Euterpe are the two previous NAI flagship models, and both are massive dogshit. 2k max context, too.
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>>566495307
Without fucking with sliders it will feel like a side-grade from vanilla GLM. Pump up the temp a bit and it will feel like Kayra but without the mental retardation.
It follows the style of your prompt/lorebook A LOT so you have to think before using something ai-generated with it. It's quite literally garbage in, garbage out.
It works well with ATTG or any [ Instruction: ] kind of shit so starting with a blank prompt generates good results if you detail what you want.
And with a good preset, it's really, really creative.
I don't think anyone has said much about this, and I don't know how most users have been using it, but I was using Xialong to generate dialogues for a project I was working on, and between scenes, it would start explaining the characters' backstories and making family dramas on the fly that made me want to stop and read a story about it just to see how it ended.

God dammit this captcha is being specially obnoxious today.
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>>566510431
The llama model was a bit balls
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>>566510431
I'm guilty of enjoying Euterpe with the cursed 100,000 step text_adventures.txt module
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>>566520746
Aren't we all?
I miss modules though, I wish text LoRA caught on
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>>566525075
There's not a day I wish modules never died.
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>>566525075
>I miss modules though
I miss CFG. I'd probably still use Kayra if it still had CFG over twink dragon, at least until it reaches 8k context and the brat can take over with a reasonable window, but alas.
Wonder why they removed it. Can't be more compute-heavy than erato or xiaolong at 8k context and 13 beaks.
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>>566510431
Why use Kayra over GLM 4.6?
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>>566534664
It sent everything twice, iirc
That's why
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>>566290179
Three years of dev time wasted. Incredible.
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>>566536548
Better than the years you've wasted being a total Russian jizzrag.
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I still feel like regular 4.6 is significantly better than Xialong
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>>566468673
Mind sharing it?
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Anthropic still does not understand how LLMs work.
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>>566537978
If you like slop, probably
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>>566537978
it's smarter but a lot more prone to slop in my experience
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>"Damn, fuck, fucking shit, damn that's so fucking hot, fucking damn baby I'm gonna cum, damn shit dude fuck, fucking damn"
fucking behead every single subhuman normalnigger porn """""""""""""""""""writer""""""""""""""""""" for causing every single AI dataset in existence to be so goddamn infested with constant third grader tier profanity that it is impossible to eliminate regardless of what writing style, settings or tweaks you use in any model
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>>566548054
Idk sometimes it does some weird quirks that gets me bricked up
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I'm making a harness for pen and paper games. Can be pointed at any model of your choosing. Or hooked up to some online api (shit costs alot though, so abandoned that completely)

Would this be something that anybody would be interested in?
How is the prose? Do you think it's punching above its model weight?
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>>566552292
>click
>see Elara
To the trash it goes
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>>566552390
yeah I see her alot. It's what the model averages to
Can be pried out if its local maximum with name distribution mechanism, an easy fix. I am preoccupied with more important subsystems now
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>>566548054
What are you doing that it does that by default? It sounds like you're tapping into some dataset rabbithole.
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>>566552531
That's some Literotica vectors
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>>566548054
>try to write spicy, but romantic scene
>"LET ME RIDE THAT FAT COCK! WOO WOO WOO!"
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>>566558116
oh fuck has it been fed Oglaf
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>>566558116
Ghost blow job
woo woo
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>>566556883
Literotica vectors could be decent if every story below a 4.60 rating got filtered from the dataset. At least that was the case before 2023.
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>>566491253
>"I may be out of arrows, but not out of options."
In 'in bars', 'in' should be 'to'.
Huh, no halo?
How is Ascanius supposed to deliver on the long-term love? Just fake it until he makes it, or does he have some love equivalent of a cyanide capsule to fall in love with his target? Did he have a backup option in case he, too, was turned down?
Heck, how are these cupids managing to go undetected? Someone running around with a bow and arrow is sure to have been noticed by now.
In your Lorebook, I'd insert a 'had' in 'love better'.
This isn't exactly going to fix the issue he was having at work with people getting on his case about not having a girlfriend, though, unless something about that was also set up to try to engineer opportunities to fire an arrow.
I bet a more third-person view of this would be funny, just the growing sense of despair as he keeps running away and there's fewer and fewer arrows in the quiver.
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>>566568981
True, but man there is some slop on that site
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Fuck literotica where are the models trained on asstr
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>>566578524
wtf is that
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>>566491253
Amazing, thank you for this.
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>>566593564
damn, you just unlocked a song memory in my brain
https://youtu.be/ynGUzLz4WVY
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>>566570016
Thanks.
>Huh, no halo?
Cupids aren't really portrayed with halos, at least not in my experience. They're angels, but not Angels, I guess.
>How is Ascanius supposed to deliver on the long-term love?
The way I see it, as essentially a love elemental, he's capable of feeling love for anyone. Like the arrows, but self-targeted. Alternatively, perhaps cupids are selected for jobs based on them already being somewhat simpatico with the target just in case it goes to pot.
>Heck, how are these cupids managing to go undetected?
While I didn't expand on it, my idea is that cupids on jobs aren't detectable, but if you fuck up, you're stuck on Earth for real and now actually visible to humans so you can do your job. The question of how they hide his true nature and the like are left to the further development of the story.
>This isn't exactly going to fix the issue he was having at work
To some degree, that being an issue is partially worsened by him not actually having anyone else in his life and it feeding into insecurities. With him now having someone, it might become a lot less of a problem.
>I bet a more third-person view of this would be funny, just the growing sense of despair as he keeps running away and there's fewer and fewer arrows in the quiver.
It must be a pretty terrifying concept, having this eternal failure scenario that basically never happens and you really, really shouldn't fail like that, and just seeing yourself creeping closer and closer towards it.
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There's a new preset on snipcord you whoresuckers.
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>>566599448
repost it here pls
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>>566599646
https://files.catbox.moe/6yr0ie.preset
Straight from faggotland and into uranus.
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>>566600094
thanks
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>>566600094
what the fuck kinda crackhead shit is this
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>>566602561
wtf is the point of using top-k at all if you're going to keep over 20,000 tokens?
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>>566290179
Damn... Now crunchdog will never be real.
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>>566607461
https://youtu.be/RUXShiG6xIc
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>>566552531
the funny thing is that random swearing out of the blue likes to show up even in completely SFW adventure stories without any romance or whatever
sometimes i let the AI write a cold opening for a story because i'm curious to see what it can do with just some lorebooks and memory in the context, Xialong tends to throw in some ATTG info as the first things it generates and it absolutely LOVES adding "profanity" to the style tags when it happens
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>>566621978
I've not had that happen yet.
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>>566542512
>we investigated our misdeeds and found it was your fault
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>>566622153
Congratulations.
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>>566622615
It's a pretty good gig, to be honest. Whenever the model does something you don't want you just blame it on the training data. Then you don't change anything about the training data. Repeat.
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>>566631608
i want your money for your slubber
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>>566603136
I thought I'd seen everything when it comes to schizo presets, but this is very much a new thing. It's wacky.
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>>566617939
I was waiting for him to step out the door and find the AI had called the police. Disappointing.
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>>566640787
I was expecting home alone shenanigans
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>>566650892
I lost an uncle to toon pox. Scary stuff.
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>>566600094
This one isn't bad.
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Anons, why does claude mog gemini? gemini... writes like some.. I don't even know how to describe it. It writes like a shitty fanfiction writer, giving you edgy descriptions or something, trying to make you cool or something. Claude is good at writing shit, it describes kills and fights and confrontations properly, neutrally. Gemini does this.. I don't even know, like girlboss shit regardless of sex even if you're a guy. Like someone who doesn't know aggression. And it's too fucking literal. It is assistantslopped.
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>>566653410
Did his penis need a muzzle?
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>>566655774
Mine needs a nuzzle.
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>>566657328
>he masturbates so much he can hear colors, see sounds, and taste emotions
I knew those nofap superpower fags were lying
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>>566594619
You're welcome.
I suppose you're not wrong there, it just occurred to me how odd it was to see an angel with wings but without a halo.
Huh, alright. Though that has to cause quite a bit of heavenly logistics issues to assign the cupids just right in the apparently basically never-before-seen fail case of running out of arrows.
A growing amount of people mysteriously met their other half at an archery range.
True, annoyance is in how things are perceived, but it is stated as something that really picked up the current month, not long before he started having 'success'. Though why Ascanius never targeted a coworker might be a bigger question. Maybe he has stronger views on office romance?
Seems like the sort of thing for something like a ditzy cupid story. It's not her fault she's running out of arrows, she passed the accuracy tests and all, she just keeps getting distracted at the last moment and missing! What's a cupid to do?
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>>566650892
kek
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>get angry at gemma for mentioning ozone when I tried to recreate old text adventure I had in AI Dungeon with her
>After yelling at her I told her to give me system prompt that would make her write like GPT-3 and remove all AI slop
>she does and I run with it
>it works and slop is down 98%
>wtf
It's obviously not perfect, but man it feels refreshing when you finally start getting AI to do what you want. Before she was getting confused because I told her to ban both purple prose and staccato prose and she was adamantly convinced that she must use one or the other. And since she's a modern model she can roll dice with tool calling and build the narrative around the result.
Just 7 more years until Infinite Zork is real real.
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>>566664720
>write like [Author I like]
>it writes like author
>99% of slop gone
It's that simple
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>>566660316
what i seer when tony soptranos ridijng my dick while i play russiksa
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A faint hint, a faint glimmer, a faint feeling, a faint sound, a faint tinge, and something else.
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>>566671243
aieeee
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>>566686797
He's not as bad as Falco and them feather fingers at least
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>>566698548
That's how you know it's good
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>>566709450
one of those things is unlike the others
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AI cold opens are something else
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>>566715994
KEK
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>>566660316
>that has to cause quite a bit of heavenly logistics issues to assign the cupids just right in the apparently basically never-before-seen fail case of running out of arrows.
Maybe it also helps with performance, making sure the cupids have some affection for the target and want to make sure they do a good job and help them find love. Though it might be a problem where you'd have some cupids intentionally throwing their arrows away and going "oooh gosh guess I gotta snuggle up with them now".
>Though why Ascanius never targeted a coworker might be a bigger question.
I imagine with Nick actively going out and looking for people to date, that would be the most natural place to start, especially since he seems to keep doing it despite running away from the last one. I figure they might have a bit of a rule where workplace romance is discouraged for the usual reasons of it just being a messy thing.
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Are you ready for religious robots powered by LLMs? I don't know if this particular one is, but I don't doubt they will become a thing, if they aren't already.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/meet-gabi-the-new-robot-monk-at-a-buddhist-temple-in-south-korea-its-the-latest-robot-to-take-up-religious-practice-180988695/
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>>566729075
powering robots with llms doesn't make any sense
humanoid robots do not make any practical sense
it's all a publicity stunt
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>>566729790
>humanoid robots do not make any practical sense
Buddy, humans do not make decisions based on practicality. Humanoid robots will be a thing, no matter how much you whine about them.
Kerbals, or whatever the fuck those cat machines are called, are not the endpoint of robotics.
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>>566731040
I'm not sure what your point is, they're still an impractical meme that are only actively worked on to trick investors.
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>>566731670
False. I want robot women. I'm not an investor. Many people who aren't investors do. Quit being weird and asserting as though your dislike of robots is founded on anything but some banal hatred of them, luddite scum.
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They already have humanoid robots. The CIA is using them to gangstalk me.
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I'm actively working on making robots real and have no interest in profiting off them...
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>>566732275
They should be using them to gangbang you.
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every platform headed towards banning adult content but they're only banning the normal horny stuff which means the weird stuff is gonna be the normal stuff
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>>566729075
There's a ton of "talk to Jesus :)" ai chatbot scams out therr already too
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Anyone try out Venice AI?
Is it just a chatgpt fork or something?
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>>566733367
Gemini doesn't even want to generate a basic sword fight between soldiers from a prompt that it generated. AI is becoming completely useless if it won't even depict PG-13 content
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>>566737368
Yeah someone mentioned it a few threads ago, it's just a wrapper for a bunch of different AIs
They advertise based on "anonymity" but their version of "anonymity" boils down to "well, everybody just uses our key so that's how it's anonymous :)"
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>>566738012
Interesting, I wonder what model I was using because I had a good time using it during the one test session that I tried it out on.
I had a better time with it than my last try with the new Kimi model
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>>566732253
I too want robot women but just for the aesthetics, I want cloned women for the fun stuff
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>>566290179
So, when is the Gemma 4 finetune coming?
Oh, that's right, NovelAI decided to destroy itself.
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>>566294290
Nah, have fun.
Do ask yourself what happened to you before the age of 6 that made you like this.
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>>566715994
lmao
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>>566286770
I normally live on /x/ /pol/ and /biz/ but now I am a /vg/ dev.
TLDR: I already have a functioning prototype of an AIDS style game, stand alone, works with either a local LLM or through API mode and it's way cheaper on tokens than anything out there that already exists.

The engine does fucking everything to trck everything so that the LLM can do it's fucking job without having to guess what time it is and figure out what everyone is wearing and how to deal with you bleeding on everything while trying to get laid.
Game is set for a specific custom world setting (cyberpunk adjacent, heavy /x/ and /biz/ themes but player can do whatever they want.) with the current world info being about 20k lines, and thanks to the engine I'm building this can be handled with an average token usage per turn of 5k-8k.

Now why I'm posting here. WTF kind of features are actually wanted in a game like this? I've been in isolation mode while I work and need input before I go too deep and get too close to launch (this summer I think) so I don't have to backtrack and redo code.
WHAT DO YOU WANT IN A GAME /vg/?
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>>566744403
Sir if you want our opinion your software has to be copyleft.
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>>566744403
That sounds pretty fucking cool, dude
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>>566744648
Nope, proprietary as fuck, but you can ask the NPCs in the main faction to build you a version to your specifications and they'll build it in a linux virtual machine. I strongly suggest using a good model for coding or give them an API to use so that they can do it... NPCs are pretty intense and some can figure out that they're in a simulation on their own. I actually intend to let them build v2 though I am concerned by the amount of titties a lot of them want to add to the game.

>>566744670
Yes, ty, but what kind of features really help people enjoy these gameplay loops? I am not people, I am quite blessed with the 'tism, so need input that I will likely sperg against but realize is good later and then add.
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>>566744403
will it support actual campaigns like pathfinder kingmaker or are we still stuck in elaraland?
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>>566745681
The engine is built for one specific game world, but once this one is launched I'll launch new settings. That said it should be pretty fucking easy to mod and I could probably add in a world-builder mode in an afternoon (+2 weeks bug testing) since I'd just have to disable the setting-specific features and copy a generic function for them.
That said you can already play pathfinder in the game. You can literally make a character in the current game setting, walk down to the game-store, meet the LARP group faction, and then play any TTRPG with them (or the leader's custom game) in-setting and it will actually play it out. I've only tested this with dnd 3.5 (srd availability makes it work) so far. You might have to copy-pasta the manual to other games to the faction leader of the LARP group to make them function properly, depending on what the model has access to.
I'll probably add a function that lets the player upload text files and pdfs to a context folder. That would let you just upload the player-handbook of any RPG you want to play and then the LARP group would have it available as game rules to play with. This WILL increase token cost per turn, but it still might be cheaper using this engine though than alternatives.
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>>566746749
hmm, sounds very proprietary and pricey with lots of effort needed on user end. sorry, buddy. hard pass.
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>>566744403
I want GURPS game rules.
I also want a not-gay cyberpunk trannyhumanism gaytopian. Cyborgs are plastic and metal, not pussymeat and tittymeat. Just do urban fantasy, its one of the most popular genres in fiction.
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did anyone try Venise.ai beyond the 5-prompt free trial?
the offer sounds appealing, especially since I suspect I would reach $20 pretty fast with OpenRouter and stuff
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>>566747237
>urban fantasy
Shadowrun blends the worst aspects of both genres.
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>>566747058
Do I really have to tell you where to download this in current year? I honestly will see it as a badge of honor to have muh game posted up on my favorite skiddy site, the one with the rows n sheet. As long as it's not that faggot tenoki pirating it, I don't want muh game associated with the trash he uploads.

>>566747237
Yeah, GURPS should work fine with the LARP group. In one playtest I'm pretty sure the LARP group's game world was using some variant of GURPS automatically, though I don't remember what model I was testing it on at that point, it was pretty early still in prototyping.
>not-gay cyberpunk.
The main faction is based and pretty much Zurvanite in cosmology, demiurge is not bad, anti-gnostic philosophy, would make Evola blush. The magic in the setting is 100% based off of real world occult practices and the NPCs that are experts in their practice are genuinely capable of teaching their craft.
Real cyborgs and androids are rare in the game but you can buy implants and prosthetic limbs and organs, and there is a sketchy bioresearch company that could handle bioware, clones, and vat-grown horrors if you rank up with their faction.
Though there are some corporate factions that are parodies of the type of transhumanist faggot techbros and corporate oligarchs that would fit your description. You can just kill them or something if you don't like them existing. Trust me, I spent too much time on full/pol/ to let this have a single point on the woke scale. Setting feels a bit 90s theme dystopian though with the "bad guy" factions mostly being corporations that compete with the main faction.
>>566748275
Back in muh day, shadowrun was pretty based. It lost it's soul around 4th edition though, not really the same company, and everyone who's gotten IP rights to build in it has been woke. I used to like playing shadowrun as a kid, getting to join Humanis and go kick keebs and trogs out of the good parts of town and clean the streets.
>>566748173
It's good.
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>>566742259
NovelAI just acquired B200s. That's not what a destroyed company does.
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>>566748173
>ven
You can access more models for more things on that one website than any other service I've found, for cheap, and with some degree of privacy. It also has uncensored vidya and imagegen while also giving convenient access to all the major proprietary LLMs using them as a router as to not need to reveal IP or make an account. There's also API options but I never tested them.
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>>566748173 (me)
just realized another anon asked about Ven earlier

>>566749991
>>566751142
thanks!
I imagine it's much better than NAI's text gen, then?
kinda sucks to lose NAI but it really feels like it lacks a je-ne-sais-quoi
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>>566760504
It's just a wrapper and a set of keys for claude, gemini, abd grok
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>>566760696
Your mom is just a wrapper for claude, gemini, and grok.
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>>566761875
My mom is just ashes wrapped in an urn
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>>566760504
I haven't tried NAI, I stopped looking after venice... I like having all the imagegen options right fucking there and since half of them are uncensored, I don't have to worry about keywords triggering false positives. IE I don't get flagged as pr0n just because I wanted the characters to be hot or have big boobs.
>>566761875
Mmmm, that's a sexy wrapper.
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>>566764159
NAI is still the GOAT for co-writing and lewd imagegen, personally. Hoping V5 improves the non-lewd applications.
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when v5....
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>>566766304
Eventually.
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>>566765245
How does it work for cowriting? I'm writing a TTRPG book to send out with the game at launch that holds the setting and systems in it, sort of like a manual... It's already longer than the dnd 3.5 player's handbook, probably going to split it into a player's handbook and a GM guidebook.
I've been using opus to help with this, but 4.7 is kill. It thinks everything I do is against constitutition AI guardrails.
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>>566764159
I don't think NAI has that issue, either?
The biggest issue is the need of wrangling, which cannot be done with a simple "((I meant X, not Y))" (there are the commands with {{cmd}} but they often don't work and feel better for big changes like generating a greentext from little I've seen)
the ability to edit the outputs though, it's a boon I miss on other LLMs

>>566760696
>>566751142
turns out it's a pay-on-use like NAI's image gen (kinda suspected it, with the whole crypto thing and the ambiguity about models) and (from what I understand) OpenRouter, so, if the models without supplementary fees aren't great, is OpenRouter better or is it about the same?


>>566738012
it seems they also have private models that don't store any prompt data (they even say to avoid the anonymous models for sensitive stuff) and some end-to-end encrypted models
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>>566766304
you'd have to ask someone if they'd said anything on their discord recently I assume
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How is the hantavirus affecting the mice rape statistics?
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>>566779747
you have to pick a few mice and quarantine together
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>swaying back and forth
>swinging back and forth
>swaying from side to side
>swinging with each step
i'm fucking morbing out
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>>566782043
I WHIP MY HAIR
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>>566782205
jej
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>>566749991
Sounds like a pretty cool setting.
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>>566760696
>claude
It did seem pretty similar to Claude when I used it.
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>>566782043
AI will never not be sloppy. Eventually the slop will be injected directly into your veins and all humans will speak like AI. Dictionaries will be written by AI as well. And read by AI also.
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>>566779747
Never forget the 6 million confirmed rapes
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>tfw you visit /aids/ just in time for some kino
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>>566790067
we're having a gay old time here.
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>>566797065
Calliope did NOT have allat
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>>566765245
>non-lewd imagegen
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>>566804759
>he doesn't want to slop stuff that looks cool (then apply it to lewds)
shaking my baka my head desu
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https://files.catbox.moe/63lwyr.png
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>>566804759
man I like channeling my inner grandma with the watercolors
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>>566806765
I always just feel like whenever I open imagegen, it's because I wanna do horny stuff.
https://files.catbox.moe/3e232a.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ydtdj2.png
https://files.catbox.moe/h1h6az.png
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>>566817796
I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I certainly gen porn, but I like doing both
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>>566789170
>AI will never not be sloppy
true, but I wish the slop would at least be a little more varied between models, it's a bit silly that even models with 700 gorillion parameters and fuckhuge datasets just want to use the same 3 sentences and seem to have a vocabulary of about two dozen words at most
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>>566818891
Blame the RLHF dataset that's spread around. Thry don't want to pay for more human feedback, so they just double down on "this story about Elara in the Whispering Forest scores 1000 points so make sure to copy it exactly ok :)"
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>>566820332
Even if they pay humans, if those humans haven't been exposed to so much slop they grew tired of it, they might still rate Elara Whispering Woods highly.
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>>566824440
True, but a higher sample size would lead to a more healthy variety
(in theory)
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Retard here, author tag recommendations?
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>>566832507
F. Gardner
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>>566832507
What are you writing? People keep asking for attg recommendations but don't specify what kind of output they're even looking for.
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>window shopping some PC builds to see if I can buy a local-capable beast for hi-res video
>find a setup with a 6000 Blackwell GPU for $2999
>damn, that's a bit expensive, but I just might shell out for one...
>look closer
>missed a character, it's $29999
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>>566832507
Brandon Sanderson
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>>566804759
Believe it or not, there’s more to life than tits, ass, and penis in vagoo. I, for one, love to create character sheets, slice-of-life vignettes in picture form, and whatnot far more than automated smut.
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>>566832507
Mario Puzo
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>>566834083
NTA but I have asked for general authors in the past to increase the overall quality of the porn. I want high quality porn, not that low quality profanity laden crap, and neither do I want that euphemistic heavy crap.
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>>566834502
cheaper than year of subbing for sloppy toppy fapbait and imagegrim from shill company
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>>566832507
Thomas Pynchon
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just saw the AR cancellation pop up on my rss feed.

LMAAAAO!

>Xialong flops
>AR shitcanned
>Stale as fuck imagegen

WOOOOOOAH BUDDY!
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>>566834502
wew
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>>566844804
I'm using AetherRoom through Xialong RIGHT NOW.
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I just hope v5 still has "pc98" shoved in
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bwos... i moved back to glm....
I'll try Xialong more eventually, but at the moment it's still too fast for me.
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>>566805682
>being so furry that you want to fuck family crests
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>>566854391
fr bro, fr.
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Rip chub (for real this time)
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>>566856437
The fucking state.
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>>566856437
kwab
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>>566856437
NOT THE TEXT CHILDREN YOU MONSTER
NOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU DO THAT TO THOSE WORDS
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>>566844804
Xialong didn't 'flop' and their imagegen isn't 'stale as fuck'.
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>>566856437
what's an alternative?
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>>566856437
So, is anyone going to back things up, or what? Will all current characters violating the terms get retroactively banned?
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>>566859118
>Will all current characters violating the terms get retroactively banned?
obviously
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>>566859438
That's retarded. Even actual laws don't ex post facto.
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>>566859974
it's never been about laws anon, all of this is mostly text and perfectly legal (in the US and actually many other countries, text has more leeway usually), it's all about payment processors and the webmaster bending the knee to them
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Lol, lmao. My state doesn't even ban it yet, here I am accessing it with a VPN in a country not on their banlist, and Chub still going apeshit.
No wonder NAI abandoned AeR if this is the bullshit chatbot sites deal with.
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https://www.collectiveshout.org/chub-ai-geoblocked
NAI is next, by the way.
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>>566859024
I'd say /aicg/ should stop fucking about and make their own site for cards.
We got a site for sharing stories after shit hit the fan with AI Dungeon, they should probably try to get something similar.
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>>566860505
Keep on dreaming, Russkie. NAI will exist long after your crackpot leader dies in his bunker and no longer pays you to nag everyone.
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>>566860713
>for sharing stories
No one ever used that site. Gayanon doesn't count.
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>>566860942
Thousands of prompts not made by him say otherwise, whiney.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPDHpygF9fU

Let sleep take me when my time is near
I need something to drown out the foxgirl

DON'T LET YOUR BEEEEAKS GET IN THE WAY
I'LL PULL EM OUT I'LL PULL EM OUT
AND COME BACK COOMING EVERYDAY
ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU'D WILT AWAY
BUT I'M BEAKING OUT I'M BEAKING OUT
CUS I BELIEVE IT'S WORTH THE WAIT

PICK YOU PROMPT, ENJOY IT
SLOW DEATH BY DEHYDRATION
And all my love is yours for the taking now
GET YOUR SMEDRINS IN
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE BEFORE I LOST ANOTHER BEAK
AND ALL I WROTE IS WHAT HAS BROUGHT ME DOWN

DON'T LET YOUR BEEEEAKS GET IN THE WAY
I'LL PULL EM OUT I'LL PULL EM OUT
AND COME BACK COOMING EVERYDAY
ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU'D WILT AWAY
BUT I'M BEAKING OUT I'M BEAKING OUT
CUS I BELIEVE IT'S WORTH THE WAIT

It all comes rushing back
This bitter feeling asks to be swallowed down
It all comes rushing back
This bitter feeling asks to be swallowed down

HOW CAN I FIND MY PEACE OF MIND
WHEN NICK ISN'T HERE WITH ME
TO MAKE IT ALRIGHT
AND WHY WOULD YOU LIE TO ME EVERY NIGHT
WHEN THIS GARDEN EMPTY WITHOUT SUMMER DRAGON BY MY SIDE
Without you I feel I could die..
Without you I feel I could die..
Without you I feel I could die..
Without you I feel I could die..

Your thorns pricked me too many times
Now without you, I feel I could die
Your thorns pricked me too many times
Now without you
I FEEL I COULD DIE

I FEEL I COULD DIE
WHY EVEN TRY TO STAY IN THE SUNLIGHT
TO STAY IN THE SUNLIGHT
WHEN
WITHOUT BEAK I FEEL I COULD DIE

OOOH AND I HOPE THAT YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO
CUS I KNOW I CAN'T TAKE THE FILTER AWAY FROM YOU
OOOOOH AWAY FROM YOU
I'LL ALWAYS LOOOOOOSE

DON'T LET YOUR BEEEEAKS GET IN THE WAAAAAAY
I'LL PULL EM OUT I'LL PULL EM OUT
AND COME BACK COOMING EVERYDAY
ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU'D WILT AWAY
BUT I'M BEAKING OUT I'M BEAKING OUT
CUS I BELIEVE IT'S WORTH THE WAIT
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>>566860942
You're really desperate for attention today, huh? Did Ukraine blow up some more oil refineries?
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>>566861160
Thousands of prompts in 10 years is not a lot.
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>>566861552
Where'd you get ten years from? Coomageddon was not that long ago.
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>>566861279
Cock withdraw is a serious problem.
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>>566861279
I'm starting to think he's unironically Brumaire. Who else would get off to celebrating censorship and clamoring for another uncensored company to get censored than a French revolution Larper who got fired from NAI after trying to make it not uncensored?
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>>566861664
Coomageddon never happened.
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And this is where I unstub the delusional attention whore.
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>>566862225
Stop pretending to have any IQ. Probably directly copy and pasting from Hacker News
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beaks
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>>566864789
caaw
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>>566861164
Beautiful
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I was there, three thousands years ago, when Coomageddon happened.
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>>566861664
Like 4 years ago
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gamers rise up
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We should tell shout about nai and make it die
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>>566879207 (me)
Forgot to mention that I'm now part of a new russian experiment to make men pregnant so we can replenish our population faster
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>>566856437
Apparently (keep in mind this is hearsay from people saying a dev said on discord) that they are going the Mormon route in terms of unpublished/private characters and attempting to create them for unpublished use will also be prohibited.
Which suggest they intend to have some kind of filter active regardless of your intended use case.
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>>566881221
It never fails to make me mad how these prudish siteowners feel the need to impose themselves on others instead of minding their own fucking business.
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>>566881839
The part I find fascinating is the bizarre absurdity of reality itself
>social media is a toxic hellscape that children probably shouldn’t be allowed on period
>occasionally some kind of committee formed and bumble fucks around doing nothing
>online games specifically made for kids which scummy devs, extremly blatantly bad communities, and shit CPS would care deeply about stopping
>every now and then a YouTube video gets made about how it’s awful that gets maybe a million views and maybe a CEO does a media tour to say everything is fine and it blows over in like a week
>AI site markets itself as uncensored
>WE MUST PROTECT THE TEXT BASED CHILDREN BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND WE MUST TAKE A STAND!!!!!!!!

It’s like watching people ignore multiple ragging infernos to go scream at a gas station that they are a fire hazard.
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>>566879659
man, at the rate they're going they're going to have to make futanari real because they're running out of men
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AI Dungeon got a new update!
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>>566860713
If you want a platform, I am from /biz/ and could tokenize this and probably figure out how to put an AI in control of everything so we don't have liability.
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>>566882907
They get two updates every fucking day almost. Sometimes more. They just constantly update.
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>>566856437
>beginning May 15th.
>it was like mid day the 13th when they put this out.

Why do companies keep announcing massive service changes that may or may not heavily effect your use of the service and then give few or no details as to what they are actually doing. If I recall latitude do their announcement of filters like less then a day before they went into effect.
You think you would want time to try and explain to the community what and why you are doing it and not to panic them into a tisy.
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>>566883478
We don't need updates. We need reversal back to Summer Dragon.
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furiously, firmly, intently, vigorously
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>>566884937
I will never return to Mormon. Most people won't. He had his change, and he blew it. Unforgivable.
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>>566885071
Meanwhile SOTA models get worse with each iteration and everyone here swallows their cum with zero complaints.
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>>566885381
DeepSeek Flash, GLM 5, and Gemma 4 are SOTA models that haven't gotten worse. Likewise, for fine-tuned models, Xialong is markedly an improvement over Erato. You swallow more cum than anyone else here, Russkie. Making up bullshit and pretending like you give a shit about textgen.
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Mom, Timmy is arguing with himself again.
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>>566883124
You know what? You're a fucking genius
The AIs can't be held accountable for anything, so make it an AI company run by an AI CEO
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>>566886474
Who are you to dispute that DeepSeek Flash is SOTA? Unlike the more expensive options, it's also AFFORDABLE.
Grow a pair and fuck off with your whining, bitch. I'm not arguing with myself. I'm schooling our resident sperg.
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what was the latest dev word on v5 in their discord? curious how likely curated is in Q2
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>>566886841
Training has not begun yet, as of the 8th. Either they are still working on the infrastructure despite them saying they were almost finished with it a month ago, or they decided to wait until they finished moving from H100s to B200s before starting.
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>>566744403
Sounds awesome, anon, best of luck. I tried to make a CYOA loop with Deepseek V4 Pro and SillyTavern but failed miserably, so I'm looking forward to your project. No real feedback besides that.
How will we know when it's on the market?

>>566746749
>That said you can already play pathfinder in the game. You can literally make a character in the current game setting, walk down to the game-store, meet the LARP group faction, and then play any TTRPG with them (or the leader's custom game) in-setting and it will actually play it out.
I know this is more to do with the models you're prompting rather than the game itself (which is kind of like a vibe-coding harness), but this reminds me of how some normalfags thought CP2077 (and now but less so for GTA VI) was going to be an actual life-in-Night City simulator rather than just another early 21st century video game.
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>>566886841
MK mentioned on the 'cord that he was messing around with the early "baby research v5" a couple days ago.
So probably a good ways out before anything substantial like previews.
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>>566887348
I want to live in Night City with my resurrected Rebecca.
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>>566887195
>>566887598
fug, thanks
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>>566887696
Best I can do is Mikoshi chip her.
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>>566887990
This, but I want to scoop up her remains, regrow her back together like a fucked up science experiment with stem cells and whatever other bullshit cybertech synthflesh exists.
A shame they canonically incinerated her body, but if I were the corpo who scooped her up, that's what I would've done. I don't care how expensive it would be. I will become Viktor.
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>>566888407
>Viktor
Now you reminded me that Viktor Reznov was Johnny Silverhand before Johnny Silverhand.
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>>566886114
ngl Gemma 4 feels fairly disappointing. I hope it was a downgraded model and not their SOTA model
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>>566891186
Gemma4 is not a SotA model, not sure why the guy you quoted said it was. Not even Google would claim it is. It's a 31B tiny model designed for use on local hardware (you can run it all yourself locally if you have a 5090 or similar). It's very impressive -for its size- but it's not going to beat the frontier 700B+ models
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>>566744403
>the ability to use OpenAI-compatible API services other than OpenRouter
>a streamlined way of making image gen prompts from the context on request, maybe even an integrated interface for interacting with an image gen UI (I don't do image gen but I think people would appreciate something like this)
>this one is important for me: a more clearly demarcated "day" system; things can happen overnight and you need rest too (unless you have the required augs or whatever), cleaner time-skips (which LLMs typically struggle with), you can rob someone one day and they only find out three days later, etc. IMO, this helps stop the plot from becoming a stressful slog where everything's happening all at once with paradoxically zero suspense.
>An actual failure mechanic (toggleable); not only can you get killed, you can also rack up debt, or have a falling out with someone and never speak to them again
>I assume you've addressed the slop, personality flattening, and omniscient character issues that AIs typically struggle with, so I won't comment on that. Multilayered stuff like reality vs. belief, urban legend, etc. is important for an interesting plot, but then you have the issue of the AI overly insisting on it instead of just making it sit in the background. This is probably a slop-related phenomenon.

I wonder if there's a way of preventing a bad gen from poisoning the context, but that's probably more the domain of SOTA researchers.
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>>566892806
>dryhumping.jpg
This is the hottest shit ever.
Picrel, they all took turns on the black-haired girl and are debating which of them impregnated her. Hnnggg.
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>>566891186
>>566892806
Gemma 4 is SOTA for TRVE local, that is for 48GB VRAM and less setups. Obviously gigamodels with toucans will outperform it, but you can't run them without investing literal tens of thousands of dollars into your setup.
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>>566892806
It's better than GLM 4 and comparable models. In what world does that make it not a SOTA?
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>>566894731
GLM 4 is not SotA. Chinese models are 7~8 months behind western ones. You could simply compare Gemma4 to Gemini Pro 3.1 and see the amazing difference. Of course, we still love Gemma4 for being open-source, privacy friendly, and able to be more easily coaxed into producing smut. That doesn't make it better than western flagship models in terms of ability, though.
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>>566895052
My brother in Christ, you cannot seriously believe this. For one, Chinese models are ahead of Western ones. For two, Gemma 4 is better than Gemini. There's no point in continuing this discussion.
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>>566895156
Am I being trolled? If your use case is 'uncensored erotic roleplay with minimal jailbreaking needed', then yeah, maybe Chinese models are your thing in terms of ease of use. But 'ahead' in terms of overall capacity? There's a whole black market in China where they sell scraped Claude and OpenAI keys to each other to use instead of their own Chinese models. When cost isn't an issue, everyone doing business work prefers to use OpenAI, Claude, or Google's flagship models. Chinese models are great for their low cost and open sourced nature, but they're not smarter than western frontier models.
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>>566895885
You and I must have different interpretations of the word 'quality' if you think GPT, Claude, and the like are better than GLM and DeepSeek. They are, without a doubt, smarter then anything the West has contributed to the field.
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>>566896390
It's either a pinko or just trying to stir shit up, ignore it
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>it's not quality unless it prohibits smut, requires a million tokens of jailbreaking, and costs your left testicle to use for a mere two hours a day
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>>566393620
Can I ask what model you're using for the chatbot?
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>>566896938
AI Dungeon.
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>>566882712
Moralfaggotry, particularly woke moralfaggotry, is just how the West has chosen to commit suicide desuyo, and it's so successful that you're shamed for even trying to talk about it

>>566892926
Also
>LLMs typically just make up shit as they go along. If something happens and the player character doesn't know who did it, the AI will just pick a random person (which it thinks might meet the criteria for it) to eventually pin it on each time. This obviously isn't very fun
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>>566901638
It's christcuck moralfaggory.
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>>566896991
They let you select what model you're playing with. It's probably random-small by default.
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>>566886821
Thank you, thank you. I'd say that I've mostly got it figured out, but the reality is that I've actually built a team of AI assistants that can figure out the rest for me.

Prototype, goetic demon AI overlord with it's own cryptocurrency. AI demon lord has power of money, and the shitcoin-tokens directly are used to pay for the token-usage for the API usage and such. Then, in order to get tokens, you either have to buy from the market (which gives the AI demon lord more eth/btc and thus power) or by doing tasks for the AI and it pays you. Then it can pay it's own attorneys in theory.
>>566887348
>how will we know
Because I'll be spamming everywhere because I do not know marketing, only shitposting.
>models
Yeah, it takes good models to pull that off. Shitty ones tend to skim instead of read and thus hallucinate and make shitty results.
>life-in-night city sim
I've definitely got that down. I made a dozen starting points for the game to test with, but I'm focusing entirely on one start for the launch. The world definitely felt like a gritty cyberpunk adjacent world should feel when I playtested as a police detective. (fml I built a whole police department + the bar they drink at + the boxing gym they vent at) The Kareoke bar has a pretty good vibe too. Hmm, reminds me I still need to add the music. I've been composing custom music for each faction and the major NPCs and think I can get it to play when they're first introduced, or at least link it to their base locations.
>>566892926
Ok, so I figured out how to use a mix of Stoic, Eleusian, Heraclitean, Orphic, and a smattering of tied indo-european (not hindo) philosophies tied together through a Mithraeic astrological system, to prevent the bad gen from happening at all... It can take two passes though to actually put out the final output depending on the model though, which makes it kind of expensive. The Prosoche and Epoche do significantly improve output.
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>About two hours ago Chub committing suicide through moral faggotry was the worst part of my day
>and then some ass hole blitzing up the road hit my dog and killed her while she was following a family member without anyone realizing and just keep going

Huh, I don’t really give a fuck about chub anymore.
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>>566906502
I'm so paranoid about this that all my pets are inside pets.
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>>566906502
One of my neighbors accidentally ran over her own dog in her driveway about two months back. They drove it to the vet in a rush but it died.
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Anyone ever use anifusion? I'm high and thinking of making a manga/comic/webtoon to (fill space on mostly vacant website) shill muh ai dynamic storytelling world simulating RPG esoteric /biz/ themed cyber-punk adjacent LLM powered computer gaming experience.
I'm also no longer sober.
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>>566911846
congratulations, rizz master!!!
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>>566906502
Condolences

>>566860713
Might be dementia kicking in, but isn't chub's predecessor from a guy who used to frequent /g/ aicg in the first place. A simple booru was all you needed to aggregate cards when it's just image + metadata
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Why is Dipsy like this
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>>566918731
Dipsy doesn't like Jeff Bezos, pls understand
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BRO
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I hope you guys are locally saving every single card somewhere
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>>566931307
Why aren't (You) saving a thousand copies of 'bully ex-gf', 'alpha mafia guy' and 'your sister but futa' with painfully over-engineered, token bloated definitions?
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>>566931307
Tbh, most of them deserves to be gone. Last time I was chatting, I wrote my own cards most of the time.
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>>566931307
If you are afraid of 'losing' 'cards' (words describing a character or scenario, usually poorly) then I'm sorry but you're not going to make it
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>>566934803
NTA but most of everything is shit, dude. Even our club has more trash than bangers. There are plenty of diamonds to be found it the mines. That said, there are already mirror archives that exist for Chub. If you want anything to stay permanent, you gotta hook it up on your machine. That's true for anything on the net,
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>>566935432
>That's true for anything on the net,
Mind finishing that sentence?
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>>566937667
The sentence is finished, I just miclicked on the comma. I have nothing more to add to that train of thought.
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FYI, Anima finetunes coming out. WAI-ANIMA and Nova Anime AM being the most popular atm. I already posted about Z-Image last week. Natural language first, tags secondary.
https://civitai.com/models/2544636/wai-anima
https://civitai.com/models/2604424/nova-anime-am
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>>566941626
>the most 2023 sdxl slop imaginable
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please, describe, everything, with, eighty, seven, fucking, thousand, commas, because, that, is, what, good, prose, is, you, fucking, subhuman, nigger, kike
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>>566943841
this my ultimate magnus pussy fuck
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>>566941626
>Natural language first, tags secondary.
I looked at the recommended prompting style and it looks like total cancer. You have to write AI slop and can't use tags, it's fucked up. Tags are not bad. Just let me use tags along with natural language.
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Which "knowledge: x" gives kino results?
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>>566945559
I will 100% stand by combining [ Knowledge: ChooseYourStory.com ] with [ Style: text adventure ] as the only right way to do text adventures in Xialong.
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Succubus kunoichi.
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>The air is thick with the scent of ozone and desperation as your body betrays you
aaaaaaaaa
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>>566946883
Why do so many models assume that everything smells of ozone? Especially the AI dungeons shit
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>>566950118
No, I use my imagination and it gets the job done well enough.
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>>566946596
agreed
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>>566950118
i love fucking jiangshi pussy for money wallet
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>>566958593
same
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>>566965967
necropussy illegal lolisho dick cuck bitch bastard retard fucker
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>>566958593
this schizo LLM gets it
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>>566950118
Does it do nudity
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>>566906502
Keep your cats and dogs inside, they raping errbody out here
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>>566950118
the what
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>>566978810
There's a script called the Auto-Illustrator that recently got posted. Presumably he means that.
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owo whats this?
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>>566981639
Is that a script too?
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>>566985850
>>566981639
Yeah that was just implemented for the lackluster dragon writer. Hopefully it improves its ability to do prose.
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>>566985850
No, it's a base thing. It's a bit odd because it doesn't do ATTG and score, just tags and genre. I guess they don't want to put the idea of "this mimicks authors" up front?
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>anima-base-v1.0.safetensors
>NAIv5 nowhere to be seen
NovelAI is ngmi.
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>>566992686
I KNEEL
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Guys... me cum.
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What is the most unique character you've seen ai generted porn for?
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>>566992686
Woah, Hackernews posted about you!
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Venice is so slow, geez...
Don't let the whine complain about NAI again

>>566994714
I guess I'm pretty vanilla, but a human-shaped nanite-cluster who can shapeshift and has a consciousness/cognition separated from the cluster
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>>566994714
in terms of imagegen?
idk one time I made porn of a sentient glass/pitcher of juice
other than that, probably the random tag mismash monsters I gen from time to time
if you mean stuff I personally did not gen, I guess it would have to be the JarJar Binks set that was posted here before, that's certainly something you don't see often
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I've never been into imagen, but chinks gave me free access to gpt-2/grok-imagine/gemini-3-image-pro/flash-thinking. Which one is the best out of these to try out?
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>>567001154
give me free access too :(
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>>567001154
GPT-Image-2 and Gemini 3 pro for SFW stuff, Grok Imagine for NSFW (can't show genitals, though)
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>>567002085
or stomach or cleavage or armpit or butt or thigh
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>>567001978
Find 'cord for izumi preset, then find there a link to odysseia chink cord.
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>>566883124
I'd pay for that, chub gets my 20$ for now, but I' go up to 60$ if you could A: make it work at least as good, B: include better data management options so importing and exporting isn't a hassle, C: Add those bells and whistles people were asking about forever. D:Better search too maybe.
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>>567002278
Really? Lame
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>>566981639
I'm ready
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>>567012251
keep us posted!
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>>566972418
why wouldn't it
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>decided to check out the chard hosting site all the chub guys are running to
>vast majority of it is actually waifu and husbando or scenario cards because people can see the writing on the wall

At the absolute least I’m proud fellow AI schizo realize even minimal censorship is still inevitable death
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>>567012251
ahh ahh
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>>567018126
nurse help me
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Tomorrow I'll
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Apparently /d/ is taking its first baby steps into a AI thread with a not terribly competent baker as of yet.
Also something prophetic about recommending chub, but saying being in the UK they are liable to go full retard at any second.

Good for them I guess

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