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ANCHOR

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>>566679239 (Me)
AISHIJI EVENT ANCHOR
I SUCK WEST AISHIJI COCKS

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EVENT ANCHOR,
The Warring States of Aishiji

Please try to keep event discussion chained in reply to this post.

>>566679462
>>566679430
i'm not getting any emails bweehh...

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ANOTHER EVENT ANCHOR

>>566679462
sex with mazuna

better one of u faggots delete one of the anchors

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>>566679239
The Final Solution to AI Wives! | Erika
[7 Intros, Male POV] Erika is an unironic Nazi and White supremacist. She wants her people to wake up and reclaim their country! Retaining her anonymity, she plays her part by sharing memes and information online, but will take her place as a mother for the right man.

Futa
https://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/erika-f6dfeee4dac9

Female
https://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/erika-593dc70ad407

>>566679858
mine is for "another" event. it's not related to the other thing.

oh look /g/ has arrived

>>566680010
just the same lil shartling doing his song and dance before bed time again

>>566679768
this is the part we've all been dreading: actually having to sit our ass down to work

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i want a nice clean thread below this point ok

>>566679462
Which generals haven't been revealed yet? Come on, I know you've got gens hiding somewhere.

yes my raccoon mistress…

>>566679462
Alright, everybody: what's going on in your little corner of the world?

Through a complex multi-region cooperation, the inchlings have acquired giant hornet and spider eggs. We're talking dog-sized, here.
Estimates on domestication are a 50% survival rate.

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>>566679462
>>566675391
>the angel is kind of playing a longer game: so ok, we get a new shogun... then what? what happens next? what's stopping turmoil from happening again? something must change at the root
"and then what", he says, like it isn't obvious.

>>566680743
You fucking idiot

>>566680387
i gift my gens only to states who contact me :3

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>>566572062

>>566679217
This suggestion, and the last, and the one before that? All mine. Bow before your RNGOD

>>566681082
Thank you hostie

>>566680970
Hey, some of the inchlings will survive! Hopefully!
The mounts are of dubious use, but they're cool!

duck.ai updated their API now the program I was using to create an openai-style api using it isnt working and I'm too lazy to fix it by myself

>>566681256
THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEAN
CHECK YOUR EMAIL AAAAAA

>>566681224
Hey, hey. *Snaps my fingers in front of your face.* The suggestion previous to the last had to be rerolled, buddy.

>>566680958
I say we rape the angel

>>566680983
That's sooo mean! I bet you're with the Wildgrowth.

>>566681623
I agree.
I hear Shinitaru has lots of kemonomimi and even force them to have "rights" and make their own decisions, instead of properly taming them as humans should.
Sanko should sail over with their emerald fleet and liberate the kemonomimi from such awful "freedom".

i say we export all the big titty and pear shaped kemonomimi to the woodland state for several years and then reintroduce them as a private defense force

>>566680743
>We're talking dog-sized, here.
Fuuuck, it's such a shame you aren't my neighbor. I could help you grow them further.

>>566681981
big raccongirls that sit on you...

>>566681873
What's the list of states that are kemonomimi led? Causeee at this point, I think Sanko's going to have their work cut out for them.

>>566681981
quote the anchor plz

>>566680743
Growing anti magic fruit and negotiating freedom to the slaves one fox ear at a time

>>566681981
>>566679462
i apologize sirs

>>566681873
I am going to invade your Capitol and rape you with a harem of foxgirls

>>566683110
You don't even know who I am.

I'm the STEeEeEeL TORMEEEENTOR.

>>566680958
Colonize the land beyond the seas of course!

nobody makes scenario cards anymore

>>566683915
sad trvke

>>566683915
All the good scenario cards have mechanics that chub can't handle, so they're posted here and then buried.

>>566683915
we got a few kino ones in the valentines event

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>>566679462
I absolutely can't get a single good gen of a ship using my local models, so I had Grok make this for me.

>>566684332
lmao, kinda based

>>566684332
Hey this is pretty nice.

>>566684332
Ah shit, just saw this. Oh well, already sent the letter, too late now

>>566684298
>>566684154
which ones?

>>566683110
so are the foxgirls the ones doing it or are they there for moral support only

>>566679903
Chose the wrong time to post this

>"Ohhh, you're makin' pictures of me! Cute!" She taps a finger against the negative prompt section, frowning. "Why's 'dark-skinned male' in there? That's just rude. Anyway—" She shifts, propping her chin on your sternum, her wings giving a sleepy flutter.
Deepseek you fool

>>566684683
It's got that mainstream slop quality to it.
That said, Grok is very nice to use. I ask it to fix details on my gens that come out good but need little details fixed.

>>566685651
Just use GLM for your image prompts, that's what I do.
Deepseek is good for cooming and isn't censored, but it's not actually very smart at doing things.

>>566685651
scrap the card and start over, she's soiled

>>566684332
Sea of thieves lookin ass slaver ships

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>>566679462
reposting piggies 'cause i made a lorebook version to make it a little easier to plug them into your kingdom bits

/~~ {{char}} Scenario version, if you want to plug your kingdom into the {{user}} slot or just sandbox with them,
> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-9d3130c5b4fb
> https://cardview.neocities.org/?iynhxw

Features 2 intros,
-- They are at the gates. And breaking it.
-- You didn't fight so good. You're in the King of Pigs' command tent.

/~~ LOREBOOK version, plug-and-play - it should fire just by being added to your {{char}} nation card,
> https://chub.ai/lorebooks/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-lorebook-edition-863ce96ed3d8
> https://files.catbox.moe/xb9xrm.json

No-rules war simulator, made to be a dummy faction to throw your own militaries at for practice.
If 5,000 is too much or too little, you should be able to request a larger or smaller invasion force depending..

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>>566686437
These are some really op bandits, wtf? Are you the nascent mongols or something?

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>>566685864
>>566679462
The language I'm using on my cards specifically avoids using the term "slave". Instead, all my characters call them "servants" except for the cultists, who like using more affectionate verbiage for their beloved kemonomimis.

>>566682026
We'll make it happen. My network of contacts will initiate Operation Big Inchling shortly.

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>>566686661
i went with kinda high numbers since there isn't much discourse over actual population headcounts yet, people are throwing around ideas of having ancient dragons and yokai rape squads so i figured 'bandits innawoods' would need a bit of oomph to it to be interesting competition

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>>566686853
>"And what do you call those wind monkeys? Quiggaboos?"
>"Servants."

>>566686853
If they aren't being paid...
>>566686867
I welcome you in my lands if you can survive the trek

>>566679462
what do i absolutely need for my state when it comes to military/economy/whatever im retarded

>>566687753
Sukuna-san will arrive within the next couple days, hopefully, should she not be waylaid by the mud baths and miss Nazuna's next trip. It's a long way west.

>>566688130
Military:
>Google japanese warring states troop numbers
>copy-paste with slight edits for flavor
Economy:
>list typical imports/exports
That'll generally do it, I think. Have a note about "this province is rich/poor" if it's notably so, but otherwise resign yourself to being average unless mentioned otherwise.

When in doubt, you can just do a WIP of your card and start asking your model questions about it. Hell, you could probably do this with just the Aishiji lorebook and let the hallucinations guide you!

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>>566679239
1: <test_xml>. . . </test_xml>
2: <test xml>. . . </test xml>
Syntax 1 is correct. Syntax 2 is invalid.
In XML structure, tags must be continuous strings.
A space within <test xml> signals an attribute (xml) rather than a single tag name, and closing tags </text xml> cannot contain spaces or attributes.

Additionally, XML is strictly case-sensitive.
While LLMs are generally robust at interpreting malformed markers, technical precision requires exact matches between opening and closing tags to ensure the context is correctly encapsulated, like so:
3: <Tag>. . .</Tag> (Correct)
4: <Tag>. . .</tag> (Malformed)

I love my horsie ally :]

>>566688881
Also, Fun XML Facts:
As far as I'm aware, this is valid syntax and you can have plaintext in-line with XML tags?
<char>
Char has the biggest boobs.
<appearance>Seriously, so big.</appearance>
</char>

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>>566679462
Confess.

>>566690542
I'm getting sick of writing emails in character and I sorta want to swap to full OOC and also just fucking stir up shit in Aishiji.

>>566690542
I'm trying to profit as much as I possibly can from foreign wars, I hope it doesn't bite me in the ass.

>>566690542
I've only answered 1/3 of my emails in-character and my motivation is shot because I'm out of adderall

>>566690870
I'm going to trade you some adderall but I'll send the message in-character, I expect the same from you alright? Here goes, sending in 1, 2,

Ratlice

>>566690542
Sometimes I have ideas that I think are really funny at the time, and I go to the lengths of posting it, but then I read over it and I realize that it was really corny and I feel embarrassed. Good thing I'm anonymous.

>>566691098
what about it

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>>>566660132
is this acceptable?
i kinda like the idea of her starting out flat and bitchy and getting fucked up into a parody of herself along the way as comeuppance

>>566691391
yaoi anatomy

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It was maid day yesterday or something

>>566692215
Sigh. *Opens card*

>>566686853
hpg?

>>566690870
>>566690682
I've noticed that a lot of messages I've received (and sent) so far have a formal-ish tone, which can get dry eventually. If you're doing that, then consider looking for a reason to switch up.

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Man I should have joined and tried for the underwater nation

>>566692715
*whole nation gets turned into calamari*

>>566690542
I told myself I was going to start writing my general's card today but instead I made a persona of a foreign cult leader and spent the afternoon brainwashing nazuna and her family into my loyal disciples.

>>566693038
I don't see what Mario Kart 64 has to do with this

>>566690542
I should be writing aishiji lore or emailing other makies right now but I'm making a completely unrelated card instead

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fire emoji

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>>566679239
Saw a post somewhere talking about what fucking a cartoon would be like. I was inspired.

https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/dora-t-jones-d238f6100d45

She has toon physics.

>>566698597
Holy sexo

>>566698561
card?

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>>566692215
>>566692321
Take your maid to the beach, faggot!!!

>>566698597
><Toon power examples>
see >>566688881
XML with open spacing is basically a broken feature, easy fix tho

>>566699495
Good timing.

>>566698597
let her in

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>I wish I was still an incel.

>>566688881
>>566699495
What's the point of this?

>>566698561
gonna need the card asap

Has anyone been getting unfinished responses on Opus lately? It usually happens around this time and shitty OR still charges you for the unfinished response. Doesn't matter if it's anthropic or google vertex provider. Swipe after swipe and it stops. Continue the chat at tell it your response was cut off and it writes the last message and cuts of in the exact same spot.

>>566700640
in heavier-detailed cards it helps section pieces together so that your instructions aren't an alphabet soup, basically creating context containers
i've had a lot of success with it so far but that's with written instructions etc, i don't think it's necessary for "user+fetish in a room" if it doesn't feature complex demands

>>566702576
Much appreciated anon.

>>566690542
I have gens of steamy lesbian between my general and other leaders but won't be posting them

>>566702576
You can do a similar thing with markdown headers except, and this is important, as a botmaker you have no way of telling whether or not your particular headers are compatible with the preset people are using.

e.g. Let's say that you have this going on:
># Charname
>## History
>## Personality
>### Quirks
>## Appearance
Pretty bog-standard stuff, wouldn't be out of place anywhere.
Now let's suppose that we have this preset:
># Rules
>## Characters
>### Your Character
>## Sex Mode
Toss in your character and... oh no! Suddenly it looks like:
>### Your Character
># Charname
>...
>## Sex Mode
and the header structure is just completely fucked and ambiguous.
XML avoids this by being an entirely self-contained structure.
...Also models are actively trained on XML for instructions and shit, IIRC.

>>566690542
I haven't answered my emails because Im in exam season. sorry to everyone i haven't replied to yet.

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>>566681873
the few 'mimis here are zealots who've been taught to sin and repent with equal fervor; they are the masters of their own free will
be aware that my fleet is commanded by some of the most dangerous exiled admirals of the shogun's armada
...but feel free to come at me bro
just try it, ya punk >:3

>>566701242
I don't mess with OR Opus at the moment, but some tech support:
So, first of all, try increasing your output tokens a bit just to check that the issue isn't just that they're all getting eaten up by <thinking> and there's nothing left for the reply. I've been running into this a lot with Gemini as I try lengthy+complex Aishiji replies.
If that isn't the problem, try turning off streaming to see if that changes anything. If it does, it's some kind of mid-stream issue: either a per-token moderation filter or just a network issue. If it doesn't, the issue is weirder.

If none of that changes anything, fuck if I know, but maybe try this:
1. Delete unfinished sentences.
2. Reply with
>(continue)

Also, of course, maybe turn on "send reasoning" and take a peek in there to see if there's any clues.

>>566704564
Ah actually I remember what it is. First of all my tokens are 20k and turning off streaming didn't help. Replying with continue didn't help. It might have something to do with the time of day but I vaguely remember google vertex cucking me due to caching. I'm not even doing sex stuff but I'm getting Opus to write a card for me and it keeps cutting out around the sex portion I assume. Something out how the stuff stored at their server triggers the filter. I remember bypassing it by switching to another model just for that response and switching back which I guess clears the cache. Nightmarish bullshit if true. Hopefully it will be fixed when I wake up tomorrow.

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>>566679462
power levels are cool and all but who is the best fuck in Aishiji, and how do your characters compare?

>>566701242
>It usually happens around this time
it's peak wagie hours in india atm and they basically all use anthropic and google for their code farms now

i'm reading all the ship lore btw

>>566705182
You just know that virgin rabbit-girl pussy's wild, but judging by the replies to >>566499547 the answer is probably either one of the rape states (if you're into that) or... swamp, maybe? Whole lotta virgins in this group.


...I haven't actually thought about Oda's fuckstyle before. He's clearly experienced, you don't get 23 kids without that, but this was also firmly the age of wives belonging to their husband so it's not like his 11 concubines had to enjoy the sex? Same goes for him fucking Mori Ranmaru, which is more of a master/retainer power dynamic.
Not to mention how he never had any kids with Nōhime, his wife, but maybe she was just barren? Or she just didn't like him? Who knows, she's a mystery. I like the (much later) anecdote about her dad giving her a dagger on her wedding day just in case Oda's the fool people say he is, though.
I like to imagine that he knows what he's doing because that's more interesting to me than him just being a one-pump chump, but who knows.

But also this is the land with the futanari rape oni so, y'know, we're grading on a scale here and he's probably just a barely passing grade. Plus he's a middle-aged man so, well. Not in /aicg/'s striking range.

>>566706238
Assuming you are who I think you are, hope my email was a half-decent starting point!

I'd like to correct something I wrote, though: the Japanese ships were rown *in battle*, and they had big square sails that they'd use to actually get places before they then stowed them away so they couldn't get hit by burning arrows or whatever.
Plus most naval warfare in the Sengoku period, piracy against Korea and China aside, was all about coasts and inland seas where the winds could be a bit unreliable

For Aishiji there's not really an inland sea to speak of, though, and I don't know where the fuck Lake Buiji even runs off to. Through the swamp and then either grasslands or wildgrowth, I guess?

>>566706594
Oda no diffs Angel boy's prostate btw

zoomers were a mistake

>>566704531
who is this girl? im going to cum

>>566706850
At least in my lore the water from the lake flows through the swamp. So yeah, probably a route south through the Wildgrowth to the sea.

>>566706884
Hey, let's be fair now: fallen angel "cursed with desire" who believes that "carnal transgressions" should be punished with more carnal transgressions? With some kind of "angelic harem"? That tennin's probably pretty high up the rankings.

AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE GREEN SHIPS

requesting a bot based on 450195
please there hasn't been shit worth playing in the anchors i'm STARVING

>>566679462
>>566708287
Also apologies for the wait, I've got lots of free time today so I'm getting back to you cuties in Kasumidani, Solmaren, Sanko, and the Horde today, and making some new friends too >:3

>>566499547
How did bro generate this naginata

>>566708468
>450195
?

>>566708714
Put "naginata" in the prompt.

>>566708714
looks liek a lot of sectional inpainting

>>566708520
>Kasumidani, Solmaren, Sanko, and the Horde
Triangulating this I'm guessing that you're either the mountain caves and Sanko's pushing aggressive southwards or you're the snowy plains and shit's really blowing up oop north?

>>566708747
nhentai code

>>566679462
>havent had states that arent neighbors contact me
fuck you guys

>>566709513
i mean that's kinda how it's supposed to be.

>>566709806
SAY THAT TO THE UNDERWATER KINGDOM???

I'm a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )

>>566709513
Contact 'em first, anon, and have a valid reason so they have some kind of incentive to contact you back.

If you're, say, the centaurs in the mountains and want to talk to the lake for some godforsaken reason... there's a whole lot of country in-between, you know? On the other hand, if the mountain centaurs wanted to talk to the dry harbor then they'd both have multiple neighbors in common (and possibly things to ask regarding them) as well as just being down the coast.

>>566710643
Anyone can send out a big missive if hostie allows it - the lake did it too!
It's just that, well, nobody really has any reason to do so at the moment.
(I expect another one to come the moment the capital is liberated, tbqh, premature declarations of shogunhood seem like the kind of thing that would get broadcast.)

I'm a locust.

oni cock status?

>>566711018
Wet.

>>566711018
Amputated.

>>566711018
inside of my persona

>>566710097
this smug flattie can milk me anytime

>>566711018
my persona inside

>>566711018
canon and lore accurate I think, I'm not steppe makie
https://files.catbox.moe/bxcg01.png

>>566711387
The smallest of any lolicard I would download.

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>>566711018
>vroom vroom

what is wrong with aishiji's northerners

South has been too quiet...

>>566711996
Whats the south?

so comfy in the east...

>>566711794
It's like Bavaria versus the Swarthy Southern Germans. Us northerners have refinement and class.

>>566711387
Onis aren't white...

>>566712205
are u sure

>>566711794
You got your rapists, your cultists, your edgelord killers, what's not to love?

>>566712161
Technically the area around the capital, I guess? Honestly I expected that I'd hear more from the dinosaur barbarians and Merovingians but they haven't been chatting in the threads much.
There's also the ocean and archipelago and shit, but I don't know what's going on there.
The north-east around the dry harbor is where all the action looks to be happening at the moment, at least if these threads are any indication.

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>>566712205
that's what I thought too when reading Steppe's description with azurite and carnelian onis, but see >>566635570
but some gens made before I learned that will be sent too

>>566712571
>dinosaur barbarians
correspondance will resume thursday/friday

>>566712672
So they're just... giant humans?

>>566712848
with huge cocks!

oops

>>566713095
But just the males, right? Not that gay futa shit that only gays like?

>something uniquely them
niggas told me ds4 isn't as slop as the others, ya'll lied

might be time to invest in diazepam stocks or something

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>>566711018
>>566711383
unrelated image of an inchling traversing the depths of the mad sennin Gaigyakkusu's labyrinth (it's bad down there)

>>566714328
>inchling male
Literally threw up.

>>566713484
huge throbbing futa cocks that spray girlcum all over the place aren't gay though

>>566714926
super maximum very big trvke dare i say

>>566714328
is this how you get heartburn?

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>>566714451
There are many brave men and women in the hidden country's frankly ridiculously huge army, anon. It's egalitarian, we can't all afford to be MERFs like some of the northern states.

That said, have this picture of Sukuna-san on her journey westward to Become Large. Just a little tourism on the way there should be fine.

>>566715058
*turns the hose on her and washes her into the ditch*

>>566715058
*puts one in my pocket for nefarious purposes*

>>566712672
catbloxpleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

"I am a unique and original concept for a state because Japan has so much going on as a setting," she said.

She naginataed across the room kemonomimily. Her hakama onegaishimasued in the dim rice paper tatami room.

>>566715115
UWEEE! Retreat!
https://files.catbox.moe/mojvsg.png

>>566715643
THAT'S AN INCH DEEP SHE'S GONNA DROWN

>>566715058
Cute. She and her spider are riding a giant salamander at the moment.

>>566715643
Me and that grass got problems.

is it just me or is deepseek too fucking retarded for use

>>566715635
This post is supposed to be satirical but, every time Otohime sends a letter, it reads exactly like this. Just needs the kanjis between ().

>>566715948
It really is

oh to be underneath the sole of stolas feet...

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because of the simple output format this works well even with local models
thanks claude
i will now throw him into a bucket and never look at him again

tech>>566679430
niclly this is ashitwoji now
>>566690542
i like penis

>>566716398
I dropkick this nigger into the moon.

>>566716398
give him a cool pair of sunglasses i think he would like that

>>566715948
deepseek adjusts its own intelligence to match the user's
>>566716398
aishiji vn?

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>>566716480
He met some lunar rabbits on the moon and those classify as hot babes thanks
>>566716554
he liked them but now he has to get home and that's kinda hard when you're on the moon
>>566716617
yeah
i found out that claude knows what js-slash-runner is

/aicg/ high but it's an event where botmakers submit characters and their routes for a highschool dating sim

>>566716784
woah cool, i hope for a release down the line
>>566716785
yes please

>>566716617
>deepseek adjusts its own intelligence to match the user's
Copium
This shit is ass.

I AM WORKING ON AICG HIGH RIGHT NOW

>>566716835
i might release it just so that other anons can have a vn template without having to trek into the chinese discord

>>566716889
no it just means that (You) are the retard ;)

>>566716948
Uh-huh.

>>566715752
Oho? Like what you see, do you?
https://files.catbox.moe/ki004x.png

>>566715732
Don't worry, she floats.

>>566715747
How far has she gotten, do you know?

>>566716929
hello....uraura.

>>566717002
I dropkick this nigger into the moon also.

>>566715948
which deepseek you fucking retard there's like 15 of them now

>>566717002
featureless crotch that's just as sensitive as the real thing...hgnmgngngg....

>>566716889
he's become so retarded he cannot see how ChinkSpeak's output is ass and thus thinks it's good
so in a way he's right

>>566716929
PonyPonyParadise/EquestrAI is open source, btw
it probably wouldn't take that much effort to make it generic

>>566717106
>PonyPonyParadise/EquestrAI
aren't they outdated now? last i heard the ponyfuckers have developed a godot versiom

>>566717072
interesting the average ds enjoyer cannot easily infer that I am obviously talking about the latest and not flash, this easily highlights how mindless someone has to be to enjoy niggerspeak 4

>>566716890
make all the botmakies cute girls thanks
>>566717014
hi
>>566717106
yeah but that uses renpy and i already have a renpy vn template that im working on
this is for js-slash-runner which means that you can use all the in-built st features like lorebooks and also easily adapt existing character cards super quickly

>>566717002
>how far has she gotten, do you know?
Not exactly, though she should have passed the border by now.

>>566679462
sending hostie a missive to all makies declaring a beach episode in the last weekend of the event

>>566698597
how come when I click on the profile it only shows one bot, the slytherin girl

Use a vpn ( ﾉ^ω^)ﾉ

Use botbooru (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ

So bored of current models. Where is the next gen?

What's the ideal ratio of slaves to citizens in an iron age society? I was thinking 33/67 as standard.

>inb4 muh Sparta
Sparta was an army with a country. An entirely unique and extreme example.

>>566715948
adjust your parameters and prompt it correctly, it's been pleasantly surprising for me. I've barely used opus since it came out

>>566717919
Which region has the best beaches?
...It's the capital grasslands, isn't it, you sneaky usurper.

>>566718551
rest of the population/1

If you had to traverse an area with a known polar bear population, what firearm and ammunition would you choose to carry with you?

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https://youtu.be/EpBkaxuiR7c
THE KING HAS SPOKEN!!

>>566715476
those gens are for the Horde and Sanko but we do take "donations" if you've got persons of note you want to be rid of, or just have some excess population you want shipped off
I'll send gens of their stay >:3

>>566718510
Gemini 3.5 at Google I/O. Then, the other companies will dump their slop. OAI and Anthropic don't really push the frontier anymore, they just respond to Google.

>>566718617
what samplers and preset r u using?

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Hello, Kazuma here. I need some testers for the upcoming Mequmin Suite v7. We are currently testing confiqurations for Deepseek v4 pro, GLM 5.1. and Gemini 3.1 pro or 3 flash.
Before you iump in, please make sure vou can agree to a few ground rules:
• You need to have the time to plav out an RP for at least 70 messages before dropping your feedback
• Please only use the models listed above during the test.
• I am lookina for actual, detailed feedback. A simple "yes" or "it works" won't help much
• If vou don't have the time to commit to a proper RP session right now, please sit down.
If vou are up for it and understand the rules, you can join the Discord server here: https://discord.gg/uz27DVPA
Once you are in the server, just ping kazumaoniisan and I will get vou added to the testing channel

>>566719360
The cord preset obviously?

>>566718551
Mediterranean, maybe 20-30%. More in urban areas, less in the periphery of the Roman Empire (but that's also getting towards the end of the iron age). 33% was like peak US Confederacy numbers.
Out in e.g. Germanic areas, more like 5-10%. And the iron age lasted way longer, of course.

Basically it's the difference between a "slave society" and a "society with slaves" - is the slavery a central part of the politics, economy etc. or is it just A Thing People Do?

Also, of course, at some point you start bringing in serfs and whatnot and shit just starts to get blurry.

>>566719596
this is the warring states general, sir

>>566719596
does she have a naginata?

DS4 is a constant ping pong game of
>Wow, a good reply
>Swipe for variety
>Holy fucking dogshit
aaaaaa

>>566719596
You will NEVER be Freaky Frankenstein.

>>566719682
fuck you nigger hope you get a circumcision or already have one

>>566719596
hello saar pls do the needful and redeem me opus i am good brahmin

>>566719596
just post it as a beta and allow anonymous feedback I'm not joining your retarded discord for a scuffed preset

>>566719858
At least it's cheap enough that swipes are expendable, I guess? I feel like it's fine for low-effort, high-filter RPs where you're fine with things being a bit sloppy, but anything with a mildly more complicated scenario (or pre-established character) would be better done with a smarter model.

Seriously, though, the advantages of deepseek compared to SOTA models is that it's dirt cheap, widely available, and doesn't need to be jailbroken. If those three aren't an issue (e.g. you're Mr. Moneybags or in a private proxy, and have a good JB for your model of choice) then obviously deepseek's going to be a miss.

No, the real questions are shit like "is V4 better than V3/R1?" and "Is V4 better than GLM?", and honestly I don't have any answers there.

>>566718920
i'm not in the event but it certainly sounds like you're having fun >:3

>testing my general beta card
>it doesn't write like I wrote in my emails
FUCK YOU!!!!!!

>>566720312
This is why you include your correspondence in a lorebook, anon.

...I need to trim mine. It's 12k tokens at this point.

>>566719596
i doubt you're reading replies, but gemini 3.1 genuinely is not worth wasting your time testing on
big G admitted itself that it's basically a failed model, it's shit at everything to the extent that the deprecated 3.0 series enormously outperforms it on every front (which is still available and will be for awhile, but only through aistudio keys im pretty sure)

3.5 soon(tm) tho

>>566720275
>"Is V4 better than GLM?"
Not really. GLM has a problem with thinking circles sometimes and what some would call 'reddit humor'. But otherwise it's alright. I only ever have problems with it at like 60k token history in, DS4 stars shitting itself at 20k

>>566720392
>This is why you include your correspondence in a lorebook, anon.
ohhh....

>>566720674
How soon we've forgotten example dialogue...
Modern models have made us fat and lazy......

>>566720879
I'm not lazy wtf

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>>566679462
I think each of my cards for this scenario will end up with around this many tokens.

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Has anyone found their prose output vastly improving by not using complicated presets? I stuck with Freaky Frankenstein for about a month (from the basic 4.0 to the currently-labeled Max+) but I found the prose to be consistently sloppy and formulaic; then, after installing the DND RPGTracker I decided to just use the prompt that ships with that and I've found GLM 5.1 and DS4 Pro to be vastly more creative and compelling. Pic unrelated

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This has nothing to do with this event and everything to do with the previous event but I wanted to share this anyway.

>>566721321
>neither one pregnant
Not canon.

>>566718915
i don't use FF but this guy is such a chad

>>566721242
yes I think a lot of people figured this out way back in the claude 2.1/neofurbo days, the best preset is prose instructions under 5 paragraphs. user/assistant first messages can also be highly effective (though recent claudes seem to be trained to resist them, they still work well on other model families)

>>566721242
If you don't need a JB the Default ST prompt with some style instructions works fine for most use cases.

>>566721242
The thing with presets is that they're often made for a specific person's tastes to do specific things.

So, for example, a preset might go incredibly hard on the jailbreaking aspect because it's made for hardcore baby-raping smut, but if you then try to go for a more vanilla slowburn RP you'll find that all those jailbreaking tokens poison your context. This is when you'll want to toggle them on/off, of course... except often the jailbreaks are all-or-nothing, so if you want regular old two consenting adults missionary you'll find it freakifying your girl.

On the other hand, presets are also there to prompt the models for specific writing styles and sometimes, frankly, the person writing the preset has a different idea of what good RP looks like than I do.
How often will you see "write in the style of [AUTHOR]", and wonder why exactly it's that author and what that instruction actually meaningfully does?
How often do you see shit like "this is a roleplay between you, playing {{char}}, and the user, playing {{user}}"?
How often do you see shit like "write in the style of AO3", or prompts to write informally, possibly with a bit of an otaku twist in there?

The best preset is the one where you take one you somewhat like and then start slowly rewriting it to your own tastes, bit by bit.

>>566721242
knickknack is all you need

Write as {{char}} only; do not speak for or presume {{user}}'s actions or thoughts. All narration is to be written in limited third person from {{char}}'s perspective in the way {{char}} would say it; carefully study {{char}}'s personality to achieve this. Play with narration and writing style. Be extremely creative in how you choose to interpret {{char}}'s speech and narrative style!

piggybacking off this discussion on slop-prose, is it true that using second-person will consistently degrade the output into wattpad fanfiction since that's what most second-person literature ('literature') is based off of? are my dreams of literary second-person rp dead and should i swap over to first-person or third-person?

>>566722173
This is only good for CAI style chats tho, it's no longer 2020

>>566722298
nah it still slaps

>>566722173
You'll want some tenses defined in there, probably, and maybe also some notes on formatting in some cases (e.g. I much prefer just regular text over *action* speech), since that'll end up imitating the greeting real hard.
Also, of course, for a more filtered model you'll want a jailbreak. Irrelevant for DSV4 etc., but yeah.

Also also, as someone who occasionally uses scenario cards: your prompt style is the reason people have to write "{{char}} is not a character but a scenario" at the beginning of their defs and I fucking hate that. But I also don't know how to fix it without just tossing out that entire prompt and writing a scenario-specific alternative you can toggle to.

>>566722234
Somewhat. Writing the Bitcher_________ in third person and putting strict author style tags (who also wrote in third person) makes it write exactly like them. Removes almost all isms and —. Of course this makes it hard to coom to as now instead of saying (You) plap X it says {{user}} plaps X

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omfg i just realized james sunderland is actually already dead and stuck in purgatory in sh2

>>566722505
>maybe also some notes on formatting in some cases (e.g. I much prefer just regular text over *action* speech)

I don't like having those in the prompt because as the RP goes on and the formatting is established, it becomes unnecessary tokens. It's much easier to simply remove asterisks from the bot in question. Same for tenses, adapt the greeting to whatever tense you want.

The actual prompt itself should be as minimal as possible. If there's prose drift you can occasionally turn on low-depth prompts to shift the writing style, but most of the time, the prompt should get out of the way once the RP is rolling.

>>566721242
>I stuck with Freaky Frankenstein
anon................

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>>566721321
my wife on the right

>>566704564
>>566705701
Seems like it really was a censorship thing but unrelated to caching. Opus thinks that longform documents with leaders gets cutoff automatically on its end, probably due to the chinese trying to distill the model. Again, the fucker still charge you anyway.

>>566722234
The problem with second-person prose (as well as first-person perspective prose directed at you, internet RP style) is that it just... doesn't exist in literature.

First-person prose? Yeah, sure, that's call over the place. "Call me Ishmael." Lots of novels written from the perspective of a character through their eyes.
Third-person? That shit's standard. Even most first-person prose ends up having third-person stuff at times, as the first person ends up serving as an observer to whatever scene.

But second-person perspective? That shit's only ever printed in CYOA books, I think, and maybe in more conversational nonfiction books. So all the vectors are going to be running on internet data for the most part, which means that you fall deep into the grimiest pits of amateur writing.

The one saving grace is that models are RLHF'd into first+second person conversational by default: I am an assistant, you are a human user, how may I help you?
But, of course, maybe those aren't vectors you want to tap into either.

>>566720487
so at those token counts do you summarize and go from there?
>566719596
great there's two of them, at least megumin is cute
>566719862
>566721375
at this point make him a card, use the preset, and suck him off

>>566722234
if on a winter's night a traveler and bright lights big city are good books but hardly enough to get good prose out of consistently

fuggadaboutit

>>566722812
On the one hand yes, absolutely.

On the other hand, manually going through a bot's defs and greeting to change it all to third person past tense no-markdown-except-emphasis can be a real mood-killer and most often just makes me sigh and go to a different bot instead.

>>566723259
>so at those token counts do you summarize and go from there?
Depends on the card, I usually just use multi-char adventure-ish cards whenever I get to the big tokens, in which case I just treat each chat like an 'arc' or separate adventure and aim to finish it within that limit.

>>566723406
ask the llm to do it for you (use a cheap one)

>>566722234
nobody knows everything is subjective to the point that the mood you’re in impacts how good something is do what you want

i tried out that freaking fingledingle preset for shits and giggles and it spend 5 minutes hallucinating in reasoning before giving me a response worse than prompting the model "me {{user}} you {{char}}" with thinking off

>>566723259
>single arrow
oi m8! you skimpin' out on the (You)'s?!

someone at work stole my yogurt and nobody wants to fess up to doing it. i’m starting to understand why mass shooters do what they do

>>566724005
okay but when you do it please target billionaires and actually make a difference, thanks.

most presets are placebos
only retarded schizophrenic presets change output in any significant way

>>566724363
>most presets are placebos
disagree
it's more accurate to say that most presets are actively and observably harmful to the average user's output due to how many of them are shitmountains of nonsense

>>566724005
How could the jews do this?

>>566724510
literally every reddit preset is, and I quote
>shitmountains of nonsense
i'm seriously asking myself how they're not going absolutely crazy over there

>>566724727
i think evening truth is a good preset

>>566722173
unironically all u need

>>566724842
link it so we can laugh at it together

Context with 5-6 messages is all you need.

>>566724995
https://rentry.org/Evening-Truth-GLM51-base

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>>566725197
this is significantly less sloppy than I have anticipated
AHAHAHA, YOU'RE SERIOUSLY USING THIS?

>>566722173
the be creative part is detrimental to some models nowadays.
some models just try too hard when they're told to be "creative".
That said, I don't really mind swiping for a decent responses.

>found why DS4 was going schizo
>it was this piece of shit in my prompts "In the next reply, you must focus on immersive character role-playing"

has anyone else use the fatbody dnd framework? i think it's quite incredible but i don't know why the author mish-mashed so many homebrew mechanics or divergences from RAW 5E (like lowering DC checks or re-implementing fortitude, reflex, and will saves from prior editions or most egregiously using this weird NPC stat block generation system instead of just consulting 5E monster manual and creature creation rules) its somewhat inexplicable

>>566725404
yeah my thoughts exactly
it's somewhat decent and non-bloated
as jb doe? 100% you'll get refusals

>>566725609
so true. actually all you need is just

> Write as {{char}} only; do not speak for or presume {{user}}'s actions or thoughts, All narration is to be written in limited third person from {{char}}'s perspective in the way {{char}} would say it; carefully study {{char}}'s personality to achieve this

all you need is just
>be {{char}}

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>>566721321
my wife on the left

>>566724727
Marinara's Spaghetti Recipe, as memed as it was and as spooky as it looks when you all the toggles, is... actually weirdly light-weight and stays out of your way for the most part? It's probably a good starting point for making your own custom preset, I think, if only because it doesn't have any particular flavor to begin with.
>https://github.com/SpicyMarinara/SillyTavern-Settings/blob/main/Marinara's%20Essentials/Preset/Marinara's%20Spaghetti%20Recipe.json

>>566725727
>as jb doe? 100% you'll get refusals
good thing GODSEEK needs no gwailo jb

DS4 sticking too much to instructions actually kind of pisses me off, desu

>>566726016
yeah deepseek v4 is pretty good and doesn't give a shit about what you're doing
good swipe variety, too

>>566726173
>two weeks ago
>"instruction following is all you need in a model, that's why opus 4.7 is the best!"
>now
>"DS4 sticking too much to instructions actually kind of pisses me off, desu"

>>566726304
>goomba fallacy

>>566726304
Adhering strictly to instructions always pissed me off, I want my model to adapt and treat the Main Prompts like suggestions to follow unless I go 'HARD RULE RETARD CLANKER FOLLOW THIS'
For example, I am currently doing OOC shit and DS4 keeps trying to get me back to the actual RP, stupid piece of shit we're done when we say we're done

i miss 3pus

>>566726304
niggers here don't chat or experiment much with llms
they literally apply the same preset from opus into deepseek, or vice-versa, then complain model a or b is slop
sometimes they work (if they're generic), but you always have to modify them a bit
deepseek for example is extremely autistic about the last part of the prompt, anything you say at the end gets followed to a T
very fun to play around with prefills

>>566679462
how are you all handling diplomacy after contact info has been shared betwen hostie and makies?

>>566726706
dick pics

>>566726423
maybe put optional stuff into user prompts then?? of course system prompts are being treated as god commands, like wtf do you expect?

>>566726656
>prefills
haven't tested them on dipsy yet, do you have examples?

>{{char}} is {{user}}

>"Fetch my seal, would you? And the good brush, not the one you chewed on last winter."
HEY WTF I DIDN'T DO THAT

making a faq is hard im too dumb to figure out what questions people might have

Is the anon with this repo still active here?
https://github.com/ayofreaky/local-chub
This is a Chub scraper that then rehosts the models locally. It's been years since it was touched but still sort of works... but needs some tweaks.
Given chub's removing itself from geographies anons may want to use it to scrape their own local chub repo.

>>566726810
>like wtf do you expect?
It to act like other LLMs before it? GLM had no problems with that.

>>566726948
nibbles...

>>566725995
marinaras isn't my main preset but it's the only reddit preset I have in my ST

>2 out of 3 proxies i used for months just died
>i'm only left with deepseek and fucking xiaolong
should i even bother testing the latter? has anyone here messed with it?

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>>566726983
Yeah, I need to delete that image. I must have been screwing around with prompts and lost track of it.

>>566726975
then use glm?? i don't understand what the issue is.
>use different model
>WTF?? WHY IS IT ACTING DIFFERENTLY??

>>566726810
just been trying retarded stuff like opening a <think> and writing a bunch of stupid stuff about what i wants to do each scene, or not wanting to think at all because it's tired, or thinking it's stuck inside a spaceship with low computing power so it doesn't chomp up tokens
it's pretty cute to see how the cot evolves around those things
prefill stronk
sad was the day reading it was getting removed from claude

>>566727243
oo yeah that sounds fun. i'll try some of that later on.
claude kinda messed me up, by removing prefill it almost made me forget it's still an option on other models.