>>566691582 >Yuyo What kind of class do you think she'll be? Yeah, she'll be a green bow. But will she be a cav? An armor? Or will she be like the third or fourth bow infantry?
>>566691678 I think she's gonna be a bow cav...but it would be interesting to see her as a bow armor seeing how rare as hell that weapon combination is.
>>566699039 >IS would have to be completely insane to leave her out of her own TT+ IS probably only considers Seidr the main protagonist. I can see them just making some new villain like they always do and only give us a Seidr alt. With how they treat Gullveig (only giving her an alt when absolutely necessary) I can see it.
>>566708998 I've +10'd Sanaki and Lucina entirely off the 4* special. Julia is getting close too. I wish all these book 1-3 units were just removed entirely and could be bought with a currency like our excess arena medals or something.
>RB rotation suggests the Bridal banner will be FE6 again Huge news for Engage fans, Valentine's likely won't be the worst performing seasonal ever anymore
>>566721751 As an FEchad and a pisschad, there is not even a fraction of the amount of piss FE lewds as there should be, and the ones that exist are overwhelmingly "defeated heroine" focused which I'm not into. There's one good one with Camilla and Ophelia and one other girl, so that's cool.
>>566737542 Very rude >>566738270 Out of Roy's supports, yeah, Sue. Igrene WAS married. One can assume Niime was once married. And Dorothy wants to be a bride. So, uhh, enjoy your FE6 bridal banner.
>>566740301 >Engage is the most recent game >Engage is the most-spammed game FEH has had >Engage is the currently most spammed game without CYL winners IS keeps bringing it up, so people are going to talk about it. We just had two fucking Engage banners in a row again!
>>566741169 It's been over three years since the launch. It clearly didn't work and is unpopular. They cut the Echoes shilling after like two years, for reference. When the Picnic banner with Lukas and Genny died, and Echoes just became "Celica alts with the occasional Sonya or Delthea."
>>566741913 >They cut the Echoes shilling after like two years And what happened two years after Echoes's release? Three Houses launched. Point stands. Until Fortune's Weave releases Engage will continue getting most of the content.
>>566740301 This is the FEH general and FEH's decline was as a result of spamming Engage in an attempt to make it popular after it failed in commercial sales.
>Shadows of Valentia Book 1 - 17 units Book 2 - 3 units (it's true look it up) Book 3 - 15 units Total: 35 units
>Three Houses: Book 4 - 12 units Book 5 - 18 units (+4 CYL winners) Book 6 - 28 units (+2 CYL winners) Total: 58 units
>Engage: Book 7 - 18 units Book 8 - 31 units (WOW!) Book 9 - 18 units Total: 67 units
What do we do about the Engagefag compulsive lying epidemic? Engage's treatment was double Valentia's and more than the best selling game in the series! They said it was normal for a new game but it clearly isn't??? Why didn't Three Houses and Valentia get that treatment???
>>566743136 Because they didn't expect it to be popular so they didn't bother. They expected Engage to be popular so they filled the schedule with a lot of banners. No IS wasn't going to change their schedule just because Engage was unpopular, regardless of how much /feh/ coped about it. They commissioned the art years ago so they aren't going to make any changes to it.
>>566743387 this, it's just bullshit lmao engage was never treated like past games, its always been the special child despite being extremely unpopular valentia and 3h weren't made by the in-house team who made fateswakening, feh and engage
>>566743621 >T-this information has been posted before! Yeah because the truth doesn't change. If you want people to stop posting it, stop lying and trying to claim Engage's treatment is normal.
>>566743765 >"Engage's count is inflated by [the unit that only exists in and was created for Engage]." Very good, Timmy. Wake me when they make a non-Engage Emblem unit.
>>566743765 Which are Engage units. The game lists them as such and Emblems are explicitly NOT the original characters. Engage is the only game they literally introduced an entire 8% unit type for. You shouldn't have pointed this out.
>>566743826 That post just proved it, though. It came out like April of 2017, and its units kept coming out through 2019, until that Picnic banner fucking ended it.
>"Valentia spam" >Had as many units in three years as Engage had in one
Dude if you think Valentia was "spammed" then we need a completely new term for whatever the fuck they've tried to do with Engage Pretending you can group these two together under "spam" is disingenuous as fuck, one literally had 2x as many units as the other in the same timeframe from release If Valentia getting 35 units in three years was "spam" what the fuck do you call Engage getting 31 units in one year and 67 in three years?
>>566744368 This uber retard >>566743765 There are 37 banners per year (NH, seasonal, LME, and then NY in January). Of those, a bare minimum of 4 per year are Engage, because of Emblems. Just the Emblems. And it's usually 5 because of dual banners. There are games that often go over a year without a banner at all! And Engage gets one every three months or less! And that's not counting NH or seasonals, which they also infest!
>>566744616 >what the fuck do you call Engage getting 31 units in one year and 67 in three years? "We hate our fans and are spiting them for not liking our shit game."
>>566744721 If cast size correlated to FEH representation Genealogy and Radiant Dawn would have the most FEH units. They don't. Furthermore, this is irrelevant, because most of Engage's alts are funnelled to the same 5-6 unpopular characters. Finally, this has no basis, because Three Houses had a bigger cast than Engage but less representation.
>>566744907 +3 units, a whole lot more NPCs and the 19 emblems. I mean if you are counting Emblems on these unit counters then you should also count them as part of the cast.
So overall Engage has at least 22 more possible characters to be added in Heroes. Makes sense to me why they have more units than Valentia
>>566744943 Coming back to my previous reasoning, Engage is the most recent game. Genealogy and Radiant Dawn aren't.
So large cast + most recent game = most banners Simple as
>>566745265 Engage doesn't have a large cast. It has a smaller cast than Three Houses and only 3 more units than Shadows of Valentia. In its first three years had 9 more units than 3H and 32 more than Valentia. There is no correlation between cast size and spam in FEH.
>>566745395 If you count the emblems it does have a larger cast plus it is a more recent game than 3H. Read the post next time before replying so you don't look like a fool.
>>566745265 Actually if we're counting NPCs, Echoes has more. Engage reuses the same like 10 npcs the entire game, since half of them are the hounds. But Echoes had a bunch of side characters and villains like Desaix, Duma, Mila, Halcyon, Rinea, Fernand, Slayd, etc.
>>566745549 >Engage: 37 (+4 DLC) Hey, I saw that shit. Engage has 5 dlc characters. Nel, Rafal, Zelestia, Gregory, and Madeline. So apparently having one more playable unit than 3H means you get 9 more FEH units!
>>566745549 actually Engage's playable cast is 60 (63 if you count each character in the emblems individually). So obviously it will have the largest amount of banners considering the cast size. >inb4 NOOOOO YOU CAN'T COUNT THE EMBLEMS!!!! Why? You count them when talking about FEH units. >>566745548 And still it doesn't cover all of Engage's Emblems so the cast is still way smaller than Engage
BULLSHIT. Absolute bullshit. It's the same fucking irrelevant bums every time. Its unit count is hyper inflated because of alt spam not the number of characters.
If the bride duo is binding blade is there a possibility the brides are a mixed bag of games this year? just appalled that it's another fucking BB banner taking up brides when we don't have any for fe8 or fe5 yet
>>566746027 >And still it doesn't cover all of Engage's Emblems so the cast is still way smaller than Engage It actually does. Especially since characters like Brigand Boss are on the table. As other anons said, Einherjar were just Emblems before Emblems. IS could have done any of these as units, and it'd honestly be way cooler.
>>566746027 But Engage spam isn't the result of having lots of characters to add. Most of its cast is already in the game. The reason it has so many units is that half of its cast are already at 3+ alts.
>>566746165 >when we don't have any for fe8 or fe5 yet We don't even have a single 3H bride yet. The most popular cast of women in the franchise, and not ONE has been a bride. It's the most obvious pick ever aside from Camilla and Eirika.
>>566746132 >>566746261 So the highest number of alts per character is 4? Meanwhile Edelgard has 10 alts. So really Engage doesn't have many alts at all. >>566746184 If you want to be pedantic and count every named NPC than I can also count every single minor ring in Engage and bloat the cast to 200 characters.
>>566746437 >Meanwhile Edelgard has 10 alts. Edelgard is the most popular character in the series and there is demand for alts for her. None of Engage's cast are popular. So yes, Engage does have a lot of alts.
>>566746437 >If you want to be pedantic and count every named NPC than I can also count every single minor ring in Engage and bloat the cast to 200 characters. Except those npcs didn't have unique designs. Characters like the blacksmith and clothing shop guy are all generics. Even among those named minor villains, several have unique designs.
>>566746437 But you said it had high numbers of units because it had a big cast. Its spam hasn't been new characters though, it's been the same unpopular CYL losers.
>>566746767 >But you said it had high numbers of units because it had a big cast that's true. > Its spam hasn't been new characters though not true. I just said that the characters don't have many alts. Call me when Female Alear has 10 alts. Then we can talk about "too many alts" >>566746918 Looks about the same to me. The timeframe is pretty irrelevant. You just threw it in trying to claim it means something.
>>566747089 >that's true. It isn't though, because half of Engage's units are alts. It isn't at 79 units because of its cast, its because random literal whos have 4 alts.
>>566747089 A character getting one alt every 3 years is not the same as a character getting one alt every 8 months. Spam is getting a lot of content quickly. Once every three years is not quick.
>"The Engage characters have too many alts!!!!" >"They have as many alts as...as...YARNE!!!1" really niggas? This is just the average amount of alts. You should be thankful that IS doesn't pretend like they're Dimitri or Edelgard tier popularity since you'd have had 9 Celines and 10 Veyles by now.
>7 non emblem Marths >7 non emblem Celicas >5 non emblem Sigurds >10 non emblem Lyns >9 non emblem Eirikas >8 non emblem Ikes >7 non emblem Micaiahs >9 non emblem Lucinas >8 non emblem F!Corrins >5 non emblem M!Byleths >9 non emblem Edelgards >Emblems are Engage spam, no way IS would make more of them if it wasn't for emblems!
If you remove alts Engage has 37 unique characters in the game, 46 with Emblems. It currently has 79 units in the game. That means it has 33 alts.
If you remove alts Shadows of Valentia has 45 unique characters in the game. It currently has 73 units in the game. That means it has 28 alts.
Additionally, this is the number of units Engage has had in 3 and a half years. This is compared to the number of units Shadows of Valentia has had in 9 years.
Engage's number of units is bigger because of alts, not unique characters, and getting alts at a 3x faster rate.
This is the result of Engage being a failed dev favorite game that the devs try to force on FEH players out of spite.
>>566748259 Well she obviously won't because Fortune's Weave will release this year and she won't get anymore alts. Considering this it is apt to compare her to Yarne's treatment. Don't Awakening, Fates and Three Houses have more alts than unique characters? This is just recency bias which Valentia didn't profit from because it's a remake of an old game.
>>566748513 For Celine to get alts at the rate Yarne did, she would need to go the next 9 years with no alts. For Engage to start getting content at the rate of previous games, most of its cast would have to be banned from appearing on banners until the mid-2030s.
>>566748712 >she would need to go the next 9 years with no alts. seems realistic to me. Nowi was also ignored for alts for 10 years after Awakening's recency ended, right? The same will happen to Engage's cast.
>>566748868 Okay, I agree with those odds. If Celine goes 9 years with no alts, you're right. If she gets an alt at any point before 2035, you're wrong and Engage is spammed.
>>566749603 /feg/ will continue to seethe about Engage even after Fortune's Weave 2 releases. They are utterly obsessed with it. It lives rent free in their empty brain.
>>566750345 Male Alear and Female Alear cannot be used in the same playthrough, one of them is always unplayable. I would count them as separate characters though, if you counted characters instead of playable characters the totals would be completely different.
>I-If CYL participation was h-higher... Engage would win!!! Lol Lmao If everybody voted in CYL again we would be on Brave Ignatz and Leonie by now and Engage would still be at 0
>>566747615 Leda seems to be Dancer Claude, and she was already pretty popular. "Dimitri but a girl" would be so popular, it would win CYL on her reveal. And she did.
>>566752863 The Shadows cup already showed that Female Alear is more popular than the majority of CYL winners. So CYL is an irrelevant metric of popularity.
>>566752863 he had some beef with TheActMan (i think) over an Elden RIng review, then at some point it turned into some onions shit-slinging competition. ActMan effectively won, but has become less enjoyable since the incident.
>>566752936 You just love putting words in people's mouths don't you? I never said anything like that. However, because participation is so low, we know that the result is meaningless. Only the first few CYLs mattered. Of course, you aren't included in 'we' in this case.
>>566753346 But your argument falls apart because more people voting would just make Engage lose even harder because it pushes the advantage to 3H and Fates even more
>>566753464 The Shadows Cup is a contest barely anybody took part in and Alear having 1k of diehard fans doesn't change the fact that 200k will vote for literally anybody else, that's literally the reason Engage keeps losing the actual CYL, it has like 12% overall support but the other 88% will never support Engage because most people hate it
>>566753664 You are actually retarded anon. Literally, like sub-80 IQ at best. I am NOT ARGUING Engage would win if participation was higher, I am arguing that it would actually be a worthy metric if participation was higher. I already said that, but you literally cannot read, retard.
>>566753758 He used to make edits in photoshop. Then, around the same time that all of the Shamir commissions dried up and turned into AI, the Gullveig scat also turned into AI. What a weird coincidence.
>>566754119 But your argument is that it would be more meaningful if everybody voted, but if everybody voted 3H would win even harder and Engage would still lose lol So it just further affirms the current results, the only thing that gives Engage even a slight chance is the low participation
>>566753925 >I am arguing that it would actually be a worthy metric if participation was higher. Okay. What's the number? When does it become legitimate.
The more you seethe about Engage, the more IS will spam it. I'm looking forward to getting the art for the 10th Veyle alt, so thanks for bringing it to me.
If you forced every FE player at gunpoint to vote in CYL it would really only hurt FEH OCs. Engage would still be irrelevant, it probably hurts the pre-Awakening games a bit, Awakening and Fates would come back from the dead and 3H would be getting 2-3 winners every year by sheer numerical advantage. There's literally at least a million, likely more because they double counted Fates sales, people who have only played 3H.
>>566754640 Hey isn't this the character that was backpacked to Goldmary? Well I'm glad a popular character Goldmary put her into the spotlight. I'm sure she needed it.
Reminder that FEH suffered its biggest financial loss in the year 3H released and started getting added. Cue the cope about how it 'stopped the bleeding' because it plateaued at that lower number for about a year.
>>566754916 Are you going to go silent again when somebody points out 3H got barely any units in 2019 and the majority of the year's content was Tellius?
>>566754640 >If you forced every FE player at gunpoint to vote in CYL it would really only hurt FEH OCs. Funny thing is that they did that with Shadows, and Gullveig got third for Fliers behind Camilla. Was Ivy like fifth? Was she the only Engage character that placed? I know quite a few 3H ones did.
>>566754640 Yeah it's such a retarded argument because low voter participation has actually helped less popular games win. Why would you want to go back to 2020 levels of participation when the knock-on effect is 3H sweeping every year because it gets half of all votes cast lmao. I don't even know why Engage fags bring it up all of the time. Nobody caring about CYL is the main thing that has given Engage a chance at winning. The first people to get filtered out are the casuals. Moving the bar from "you need 40k to win" to "you need 10k to win" is the only thing giving most modern winners a chance. If you brought all of the 3Hfags back they're raising that bar up to numbers only 3H characters would hit.
>>566755059 >when somebody points out I don't need to wait for that, because your schizo ass already provided that info here >>566743387 Hmm, 12 units despite being a summer release compared to Engage's 18 (only a difference of 6) despite being a January release. Sounds like quite a bit to me. Funny how you always ignore context like this though.
>>566755490 >Nobody caring about CYL is the main thing that has given Engage a chance at winning. It's pretty hilarious, innit? The only reason Ivy is placing third is because every other non-Engage female lord has already won, as well as a bunch of popular tertiaries. And most voters have left after their favorite won. If those people stuck around, we'd have had Hilda win like three CYLs ago, and Ivy would be down in like 15th place for women with Nino, because it's time for Petra and Leonie to win or some shit.
Years ranked from heaviest to lightest sales decline VS Years ranked from least amount of 3H content to most 3H content: 2019 / 2019 2022 / 2024 2024 / 2022 2023 / 2023 2021 / 2020 2020 / 2021
What is some other interesting FEH data? Why do you think there is a positive correlation between 3H being starved for content and FEH bleeding players in bigger numbers?
Why do you think the three years where Three Houses got 20+ units saw the lowest levels of decline, whereas the three years that saw Three Houses only get 13-15 units saw the heaviest levels of decline? Could FEH have made it to Book 14, if not Book 15, if they kept up the 3H content, which has been proven to lessen yearly decline, and did not spend three years spamming Engage out of spite?
>>566755925 But remember: Three Houses wasn't spammed. Nope. Not at all. And you are a lying Engaygie if you point it out!!! >>566755990 >posted it again award
We have now gone from "Engage isn't spammed" to "Okay it is spammed even more than 3H was, but 3H was spammed one year (which means Engage was even more spammed)!" What a story, Mark!
>>566756426 This subhuman. >>566756053 >But remember: Three Houses wasn't spammed. Nope. Not at all. who thinks bringing up that 3H didn't even get as many units as Engage did is somehow a relevant point to his argument against Engage being spammed. Fuck, 3H won CYL twice in 2021 to get 31 units, and it STILL had less than the year Engage had 32!
>>566756453 he's mad because he wants to string this out to 400 posts of bullshit and that copypasta ends the argument because you can't argue with data
>>566756534 >This subhuman. >>566756053 >look inside >he didn't say anything about Engage wow so you are literally making shit up to win arguments. That's low. Have ever thought of making a career as a right wing political commentator? You'd fit right in.
>>566755990 >2022: 25.8% >2023: 17.5% >2024: 24.2% Hmm, how come you never seem to bring up the fact that the game had a bigger loss in a year without Engage than Engage's first two years? Sounds like Engage mitigated a bit of damage.
Has there ever been a time that an Engagefag claimed somebody was lying about data that made 3H look good/Engage look bad and actually been telling the truth? Because it seems like all of the anti-Engage claims eventually get vindicated and all of the pro-Engage claims get exposed as lies.
>>566756974 >Has there ever been a time that an Engagefag claimed somebody was lying about data that made 3H look good/Engage look bad and actually been telling the truth? yes, literally all the time.
>>566756928 There were far more Engage units (31) in 2024 than in 2023 (18) and 2024 saw far heavier decline so it's unlikely Engage had any influence.
>>566757560 nuh uh, engaygie. When the game still plummets after FW's release we will continue blaming engayge for everything >>566757623 who are you quoting?
>>566757560 The powercreep and essay length weapons kicked in when Engage started getting its first wave of alts and Emblems, bro. Book 7's units were rather tame, really. Compare MGullveig & MKvasir to MLaraedr & MNidhoggr, all of which were the ends of their books.
>>566757520 >Yet it wasn't as much decline as 2022, a year with 0 (ZERO) Engage units. Anon. Please. Think about what you are saying BEFORE you say it. If there is essentially no difference between releasing 0 Engage units and releasing 31 Engage units, then you are implying that they may as well have released no Engage units.
>>566757847 well it basically proves that engage did nothing for feh which is true, it did nothing, the game still lives or dies by 3h alts releasing engage content is the same as releasing fe6 or thracia or tellius content, it's all lumped together under "shit nobody rolls for"
>>566757847 >If there is essentially no difference between releasing 0 Engage units and releasing 31 Engage units, then you are implying that they may as well have released no Engage units. The difference being that Engage is taking up slots that 3H could have had. Easy example: Why did we get Bridal Nel instead of something like Bridal Hilda?
>>566758078 Bro, people were also complaining about Valentine's Duo Lif, Refined Brave Hector, Fallen Ike, etc, which all released before Engage, By the time Emblem Ike and other Engage characters released, half of the playerbase was already gone.
>>566758393 >The difference being that Engage is taking up slots that 3H could have had. Yeah, which is why 2024 did worse than 2023. 2023 had 23 3H units as opposed to 2024's 14, leading to the drop. He was trying to claim Engage helped the game recover in 2023, but that just isn't true. We can see from 2022 and 2024 that the difference between 0 Engage units and 31 Engage units is 1.6%. We can see from 2023 as opposed to 2022 and 2024 that the difference between 14 3H units and 24 3H units is 7-8%. Ergo, it's retarded to claim Engage did anything. You have a control variable in 2022 that proves Engage spam does nothing to prevent decline whereas 3H spam greatly effects it. Only 3H's content matches the curve across those three years.
>>566758393 Anon, let's be real here. even if Engage didn't exist 3H wouldn't have gotten more alts. You would have gotten Groom Yarne or some shit. IS's apathy towards 3H didn't start after Engage, you know?
>>566758608 >Bro, people were also complaining about Valentine's Duo Lif, The discussion I was in was about "essay text." This is VLif's only prf. So you're changing goalposts from essay texts to now just "strong units," and can fuck off. Nothing is as bad as the jump to Engage normalizing double-essays with multiple prfs. You fucking compare LCorrin to ECorrin, faggot.
>>566758783 >Anon, let's be real here. even if Engage didn't exist 3H wouldn't have gotten more alts. I don't think that's true. If IS wasn't shilling Engage, they'd be more inclined to make 3H alts. This now goes AAAAAALL the way back to the start of the discussion, where some guy claimed that Engage got units because it was the most recent game. >>566741169 So if Engage didn't exist, by his logic, we'd be getting 3H alts more often since it's the most recent game.
People obviously don't remember when vantage hector and takumi were borderline immortal while one shotting pretty much everyone while at the same time reinhardt was running around in a world before cavalry movement was cucked by absolutely everything.
>>566758816 I specifically mentioned powercreep in my post, you illiterate fuck, so of course I'm going to mention examples of powercreep. But since you wanna only mention the "essay length skills" part of my post, literally go back to when Flora released and you'll see people complaining about the length of the weapon description,
>>566759051 >If IS wasn't shilling Engage, they'd be more inclined to make 3H alts. lol this dude definitely wasn't here between 2019-2022 We complained about the slow trickle of 3H units a lot. Again, 3H being shafted in content isn't a new thing, newfag
>>566755990 The thing I think people underestimate is that they assume an 8 unit difference is just a two banner difference, but those 8 units will actually be scattered across a lot of different banners which uplifts the entire year. It can drastically change the performance of ~8 different seasonal banners or L/M/Es which combines to have a big effect. I mean shit Emblem Edelgard and Emblem Byleth are only two units but are two of the three top performing banners for Book 10 (the other being 3H Kids).
>>566759289 >"Bro, go look at this thing that wasn't normalized until Engage." Thanks for backing my argument, retard. Still didn't even address Gullveig vs Laraedr's kits.
>>566759365 >We complained about the slow trickle of 3H units a lot. Again, 3H being shafted in content isn't a new thing, newfag The funny thing, newfag, is that while it was demanded more at the time, it's because the demand was high. It still usually got like 20+ units per year, but people wanted MORE because they liked 3H. It was spammed, people just wanted even more spam. Engage is the opposite. People don't want it, but it keeps meeting the demand that 3H had back in 2019 and 2020.
>>566759908 They wanted both, retard. People wanted units like base Lysithea or Marianne, but they also wanted seasonals of them. The house leaders didn't get seasonals until fucking 2022. Imagine if Engage's royals didn't get a single seasonal until THIS YEAR. That's how long it took! Did you forget, newfag?
>>566759532 Flora released in 2018 you dumb motherfucker. >You didn't address these units that I just mentioned now! Haha, gotcha! You are so fucking stupid lol. This argument is over.
Engaygees be like: >The game's poor reception doesnt matter >The game's poor sales doesnt matter >The game's inability to get a CYL winner doesnt matter >The game's bad reviews from the fanbase doesnt matter >The game's failure to bring in and keep new players doesnt matter >The game going out of print doesnt matter
>>566760105 >You are so fucking stupid lol. This argument is over. Yeah, I know. You have no arguments and can't address stuff from like five posts ago. You're as dead in the water as Engage is.
>>566760091 >They wanted both, retard. see, this is how I know you are a newfag. People complained about the same 4 characters getting alts and not releasing all the academy phase units by the 2nd year. People were not demanding more Edeltard or Dimishart.
>>566757847 >>566759631 >>566759703 So we're all in agreement, Engage is not having a negative impact on the game. Glad we could all come to the same conclusion.
>>566760281 >People complained about the same 4 characters getting alts 3H didn't start getting seasonal alts outside of Sothis until July 2020. >People were not demanding more Edeltard or Dimishart. >>People were not demanding more Edeltard or Dimishart. >>>>People were not demanding more Edeltard or Dimishart. What.
>>566760461 maybe on normalfag spaces like twitter people demanded Edelshart, but on /feh/ we all hated them. But a newfag like you wouldn't know that.
>>566760408 It is because those 31 slots could have gone to stuff people actually would have rolled for that would have been a material benefit to the game. If 31 is the same as 0 then all 31 slots were wasted.
>>566760764 Why do you think what I personally want aligns with what would make money? Those are two different things. I could want 31 Yarne alts for all you know.
>>566760686 >would have rolled You don't get it. The game is DEAD. These mythical rollers waiting for good shit do not exist. If a banner does well because a particular character sends it, that's not going to happen again the 12th time you release that character. FEH is never going to see pre-2019 numbers again no matter what it does. Pinning the blame for that on a single entity when the game has been in freefall for 7 years is very dishonest.
>>566761405 >calls me out and makes me look stupid when I lie that doesn't happen thought? They only bitch and moan and make up statistics. And they do it 24/7/365 sad...
>>566761508 Because it's an irrelevant ad hominem. I could want the smelliest flop shit possible and it would have no bearing on the truth that Engage did nothing for FEH.
>>566761317 >people complain about even more Engage banners >start screaming about 3H fans >people point out that it was factually more liked than Engage >"Why are they so defensive, with how they can back their words with numbers and logic?" I dunno, man. You ever reconsider your neovagina?
>>566761612 Nah, you're just too pussy to have your tastes critiqued. Fact of the matter is, dumbasses like you actually have shit taste and don't want to get made fun of for it lol.
>>566761832 How are my tastes relevant to the fact that a year with 31 Engage units saw no difference to a year with 0 Engage units? You're admitting you've lost the argument and are trying to pivot into an ad hominem about something else.
>>566761731 So you admit that 3HRTs start arguments like little bitches.... Weird how Engagefags don't seem to start any arguments thought. Sounds like Engagefags are just more chill?
>>566761973 I'm not even who you were originally arguing with lol. I just think it's ironic that retards like you shit on Engage for "not selling" then want shit like Tellius or whatever instead to replace those banners.
>>566762152 Data contradicting it has been posted plenty of times, but the only ones willing to catalog and save it are lying 3HRTs like you. We normal FE fans aren't schizos who save up every conversation and then sprinkle in some fake facts like 3HRTs do.
>>566761767 >You claim this but you refuse to post "real" ones... why is that? because it's obviously true and you have to be clinically retarded to try and argue that 3H content doesn't carry feh you don't even need to look at data, the entire argument is retarded, this isn't something that needs to be proven in the first place because it's just fucking obvious it would be the only people who won't admit 3H content does the best are people terminally mind broken by it
>>566762134 >So you admit that 3HRTs start arguments I'm pretty sure the guy who started this is the one screaming and flailing that Engage wasn't spammed, and then brought up 3H.
There's actually data that shows that the years with the most 3H does the worst and the years with the most Engage does the best. Also Engage has swept CYL three times in a row. No I will not post proof for any of this.
>>566762582 search it yourself, retard. You love cataloguing things, afterall. >>566762689 >I'm pretty sure the guy who started this was this guy >>566724210 who made an attack on Engage and Engage fans. So thanks for proving my point.
>>566762742 Who are you quoting? Oh right, the voices in your head >>566762915 >"I refuse to acknowledge it therefore it doesn't exist" I accept your concession.
>>566762852 So absolutely nothing to do with 3H, like I already said? Thanks for proving me right, retard. I already said the discussion was about Engagespam, which that post points to, since the Valentines spam banner is what was being discussed. If there's two games trusted to flop, it's Engage and FE6. And FE6 is rare while Engage is not. So the odd FE6 banner is Engage's only shot at not being THE worst seasonal banner.
>>566763039 But there's nothing to acknowledge, you haven't posted anything. You could literally BTFO me right now by posting literally anything that says the data isn't true.
>>566763080 The writing style made it obvious he was a 3HRT(hence why the 3HRTs became rabid when questioned later on) Obvious dog whistle made by a member of that bunch of loons
>>566763276 >The writing style made it obvious he was a 3HRT Pal, the majority of people like 3H. Throw a dart and you'll hit one. Why did you bring up 3H in a discussion about FE6 and Engage? Aside from being butthurt.
>>566763376 Typical 3HRT behaviour. Once he's cornered, he snaps and lashes out. >>566763378 Later engagements proved that it was a 3HRT, so I'm anything but schizophrenic. I'm lucid. Lucid to the madness of 3HRTs and their death cult. >>566763419 4chan is an Engage site, thought. Maybe reddit is more up your alley?
>>566763647 >4chan is an Engage site, thought. Even if you wanna argue that the 3H threads for years on /v/ somehow weren't real, I'd sooner argue this place like even fucking Gullveig more than Engage.
>>566763726 >xe still plays Heroes lol you love cock and ball torture this much? >>566763760 /feg/ is the 3HRT containment thread. You mentally ill trannies are hated outside of here.
Just read through it, 3H wasn't even mentioned until it was used (alongside SoV) as a comparison point to prove that Engage spam wasn't normal for a new game. Then it was dropped for just comparison between SoV and Engage's treatment. The majority of the argument wasn't even about 3H, it was Engage vs SoV talking about cast sizes.
It doesn't become 3H vs Engage until >>566752750 started seething about Marianne and FByleth randomly, even though it was SoVfags pointing out how unpopular and spammed Engage was. Then 3Hfags starting clowning on how hard he was coping too.
He's acting like they "revealed themselves as 3Hfags" when in reality he just started lashing out randomly and getting dogpiled by everybody he was lashing out at. If you response to getting made fun of by Valentiafags is "I FUCKING HATE 3H" then obviously 3H fans will start making fun of you too. You brought them into it.
>>566763886 >/feg/ is the 3HRT containment thread. Yeah, and if I go to /vfeg/, they talk about GBA all the time and fucking hate the Alearposter. What's your point, retard? Nobody fucking likes Engage!
>>566763946 >He's acting like they "revealed themselves as 3Hfags" when in reality he just started lashing out randomly and getting dogpiled by everybody he was lashing out at. If you response to getting made fun of by Valentiafags is "I FUCKING HATE 3H" then obviously 3H fans will start making fun of you too. You brought them into it. it's funny because his persecution complex is 100% self-reinforced if you sperg about 3h whenever somebody calls you a retard, it's a foregone conclusion that 3h fags will start to call you a retard too: you attacked them for no reason
>>566764174 You're like the guy at a bar who, after being rejected by a girl, tries to start a fight with the biggest guy there and then inevitably get the shit kicked out of you.
>>566764281 3H brought it up themselves when they started seething about Engage thought? I already showed proof at the beginning of the thread. See, this is another example of how 3HRTs ignore the truth when presented it. Why are they such maligned liars? Was it their upbringing? A mental illness developed during covid? >>566764430 lol you're projecting hard
>>566764520 The people you were arguing with at the start were not 3Hfags. They said nothing about 3H. You're acting like 3Hfags have a monopoly on hating Engage spam. Everyone hates Engage, it isn't just 3Hfags.
>>566764765 >The people you were arguing with at the start were not 3Hfags. I already showed proof that they were. Why are you lying? Yes it is only 3HRTs who hate Engage btw
>>566764737 >I wonder what FE would be like if Kaga-sama never left. would probably be a mess in it's own way. Kaga 's additions didn't always work out
>>566755990 2019 was the largest player drop ever because normal people realized FEH is just not fun and very bad fundamentally. Has nothing to do with anything other than FEH being a bad experience for new players and not having anything worth sticking around for. Only noteworty mobile game to release that year was Arknights and I highly doubt that stole FEH players.
>>566765283 Well, also that it >added Aether Raids and put a focus on balancing things for it >shoved the first half of the year full of Tellius units >even the Awakening Kids banner was made of the less-popular kids instead of demanded ones like Severa and Inigo >a bunch of decently popular characters like Camilla, Leo, and Loki were garbage grail units and so forth
>>566772039 >>566772072 Oh, well that's a harmonic. And not a duo. And also not on any recent banner, since it's from over 5 years ago. Wish we had more alts like these sluts.
>>566778264 I have one commission. I am happy with it and I'm never doing it again. I'd rather just put that extra money into some physical fire emblem merch or games.
>>566791289 To be fair that's just classic fire emblem character tropes. Most characters outside of the core cast have one trate and that's their whole character. 3h is probably the one game to fully break away from that trope and makes so no character's whole personality is built around one thing. I suspect at least in the old games it ties into permanent death meaning the story has to be able to carry on without them so they never get fully fleshed out.
>>566789138 Bridal banners should have flower girls and ring bearers too. I’m a bit uncomfortable with bridal Elise, but she’d make a very cute flower girl. Also, (metaphorically) fuck that AIDS ridden faggot who tries to stifle discussion by filing a bunch of false reports.
>>566792116 >To be fair that's just classic fire emblem character tropes. The difference is that those older games didn't have so much extra screentime for those characters. Outside of his like four support chains, Ross never speaks again until fighting Fomortiis. Meanwhile, someone like Amber has >his recruitment >ELEVEN support chains >like 19 emblems' worth of bond conversations >six wake up dialogues >dining dialogue >the pool/orchard/stable activity dialogue >anything else I missed Any random unit in Engage probably has more screentime and dialogue than 95% of characters in the series before them. But it's wasted on Komuro's writing. 3H's cast succeeded, because it bled most of that screentime for all it was worth.
>>566776903 In what way? I still get crowns and thrones all the time and the only money I spend is on feh pass. Don’t tell me you’re being filtered by game mechanics…
>>566798364 nigga was so worthless at release, he didn't even come with lethality. I remember rolling him and lmaoing at his fodder since I somehow expecting lethality to come built in
>>566799795 >since I somehow expecting lethality to come built in Lethality is the skill of Assassin in FE8. Also, other daggers at the time had it. He was basically the one without it. Dude was complete garbage.
I hate waiting for refines. I want to give my Monica new premium stuff, but I'm afraid I'm going to give her a skill that will end up being her refine making giving her that skill a waste and force me to give her a different premium skill.
It's almost impressive how much Heroes leans into its own nature as gatcha >new chick every chapter because all whales are dudes >bullshit motives for fighting >constantly getting betrayed >pretty much everything involving Alfaðör I almost have to give them credit for just unapologetically going for it
Sharena and Ash are rereunning on the exact day that the TT+ banner would go up. So Bridal Ash is basically confirmed, and Sharena is a stand-in for a unit that only has a Legendary or Mythic, so Eir and Letizia are out unless one of them is the third unit.
>>566752061 >freyr got a remix >def/res fortune Why are they giving him a skill that's already 1,5 years old? Aren't remixes suppose to breath new life into old legendaries?
>>566798042 Legit what can they even do when they invented so many skills and units that shut down her gimmick? They let Elimine stay dead when her refine came around
>>566851492 I'd be fine with Heroes brides if it was the good characters like Gullveig and Eir, but it seems they just do Fjorm and then Book 6 (Embla, Sharena+Veronica, and now Ash).
>>566852771 That would require them to give bridal alts to Gullveig, Camilla, and 3H, and they've refused to do that for years. In Camilla's case, a fucking decade.
>>566855893 >Eirika And Lucina. The three most obvious bride units ever are Eirika and Lucina because of Awakening, and then Camilla. Lyn got one year one, which was seemingly the only "good" bridal roster IS ever made.
>>566852637 >but you can't use Freyja or any of the Book VII goddesses / villains. Okay, I'll try: >Eir >Baldr >Loki >Letizia I would roll for all of these. If you need a duo, put Ymir behind Eir or backpack Baldr to Hodr.
>>566869843 How would it be a continuity error? There are multiple John's in the world. I think having two Baldrs from different dimensions makes sense.
I haven't been able to start or login to Shadows for 2 days now, opening the app just leads to a black screen and no further loading or progress after the splash screen goes away, is anyone else having this issue?
>>566917523 Works on my machine. >level 1 Erma >matched with people who have 140 HP, despite only having a total of like 300 experience between both light and dark Fuck. Still won, tho.
>>566920612 I want her mascara running down her face and her lipstick on my neck. Also, she's the Embla equivalent of Kiran. She's their tactician for their Order. She should have been our rival, but Kiran wasn't in Book 6 at all.
FW better not have every minor plot important character have two retards following them around everywhere. All those generic ass mercenary men do not inspire much confidence.
>>566942372 I remember it was a fucking pain in the ass to get it in the first TT, I think you needed like 40k points for it and getting points back then was much harder.
>>566946003 this nintendo app shit and suddenly announcing things an hour before they drop is such a braindead marketing tactic. The world was putty in their hands with directs why the fuck would they pivot away from that
>>566915281 >I want to be eaten by a monstrous life form that merely mimics the form of a cute girl as a decoy to prey on humanity, with its eyes full of undisguised appetite, and I want to smile and say, "That's fine."
>>566957710 Shadows is where all of the FEH money is going lmao Isn't it funny that its unit releases align with when TT units would have been released in FEH?
