>>566710880 weird to me that people will see a picture of a pretty woman and you want her to step on you. i'd much rather a pretty woman give me a kiss! if she stepped on me i think i'd yell like Tom and Jerry
I was forced to buy a new phone because my current one keeps overheating even though I've been trying to save money and now I'm going to miss my end of year target by 200 This is the curse of no chapter 5
I find it hard when actually playing Deltarune to see Kris as anything other than me. Like I forget outside of cutscenes that they're their own character and I'm subconsciously thinking "that's me, that's my blank slate player avatar, I am doing these things".
>>566730870 >>566731525 what is not clear about it? cute gay people that could be into someone like me are extremely rare, ad the one time i find one there is expectedly no shot to get them but it's still depressing how im blowing the only chance in my life i dont have the energy to articulate myself well in this headstate, and i reread my post and noticed how it looks like something spamton would write if he sperged out about his sexual frustrations on a casket weaving forum, so yes fuck my life, i am not into big buff tv head men
fave likes femboy on female because they self insert as the guy and imagine that maybe there are women out there that actually would be attracted to them instead of just gay guys
>>566734019 I kept my high school cap secured with a hair clip, which worked well until the hat toss which painfully ripped out a few hairs but it wasn’t that bad
uh, y'all know that deltarune is woke and gay, right? Even if y'all are woke and gay by 4chud standards, y'all should better move to more accepted spaces if y'all dont want us to gatekeep y'all.
>>566737302 >depicting the other side as a wee-woo baby boy with a sucker and a propeller hat >literally using gm_construct from gmod 9.0.4.b (more than 15 years ago?)
I wish you could bookmark specific magma canvasses instead of having to scroll over to them every time. I wish I was a little bit taller I wish I was a baller
>>566739095 I managed to get a job last year, thankfully, just as I was starting to lose hope. I also got into Deltarune at exactly the same time, so it was a doubly nice moment.
>>566740113 >how do people drink mountain dew It's not as heavy on the tastebuds as Coke, all things considered. Not my favorite though. Wish they still sold Irn Bru in my country.
several months in and i still don't even have the slightest grasp of what this thread's culture is supposed to be the only stuff that sort of makes sense is the pippinfaggotry
>>566742416 there's not much left, really. >your dad fucks dead deer (said by doomer to tasque) >slagwhore mum, innit (said by pippshit to me, kraut) >tl;dr (should be said to tasque impersonator when he dumps retarded garbage when someone chimps out at tasque)
This general would be entirely dead if it wasn't astroturfed by the autistic faggots stuck on a permanent loop of posting the exact same garbage and never creating anything new or starting any new topics. If necroing was a thing on the north korean nuclear weapons program discussion forum, then this general would be a strong candidate as the example case of it.
>>566743557 women will actively obsess over grotesque NTRgoblins but even if one believes to be better than what one competes with, you will never be better than an idea.
real life can disappoint, real life can hurt, real life can reject your feelings. but an idea? can't do more than what you allow it to. its not a matter of wether or not you are better than a fantasy (you're not and will never be) but that you are a package with flaws and those are outright rejected lest they can hurt you.
at least i believe this is the psychology behind it.
>>566744092 so do you literally mean ''women'' or do you also mean ''nu-males'' that got testosterone scores as low as Doomers and have very womanly mindsets?
Mailmen will actively OBSESS over grotesque gobs of FRIED POTATOES but even if one believes to be better than what one competes with, you will never be better than an IDEA.
TV showbiz can disappoint, TV showbiz can HURT , TV showbiz can reject your FEELINGS. but a fried meal? can't do more than what you allow it to. its not a matter of WEATHER or not you are better than a fatty fry (you're not and will never be) but that you are a GAMESHOW HOST with flaws and those are outright REJECTED lest they can hurt you.
At least, I BELIEVE this is the PSYCHOLOGY behind it.
>>566745870 Of course, but the possibility is also there and he'd most likely comply if you told him you wabt to hold on to his squishy thighs like a koala >>566746070 I need to hold and grab every version of Tenna...
>>566746259 I would understand it a bit more if they actually felt like Pippins doing Pippins things and not just... Some People Who Exist What's the point of using Battat if he's never being an unhinged schizo theorist and he's just being A Guy
>>566746178 But anon slugs carry all sorts of diseases on them! If you put SlugTenna in your vajeener it's going to make your pussy rot and then fall off in flakes!!
>>566746808 There was some guy who swallowed a slug on a dare and it transmitted some rat disease into his brain and paralyzed and eventually killed him
>get to utg meetup house >exchange greetings with others there >they all seem nice enough, maybe you can make lasting friendships here >suddenly doors lock and windows are blocked by a metal sheet >the banner that reads utg meetup gets swapped to utg milking farm
>>566747230 Maybe if you've been taking care of the Slugtenna since the moment it was born and make sure they've only ever been in a clean environment, you can't be sure of the places wild slugtennas have been to
>>566746704 I think the problem is you can only do so much with the idea of dice and gambling before you need to unshackle yourself and start taking liberties with how a pippins as a darkner might have began differing itself from others.
>>566748171 Easy. Small Mike was from sort of trivia board game, and all of the red ones were for some kind of game centered around gambling. Base their personality on what they were used for.
>>566748739 >lustful shipper personality is when attached to a (pre)teen as earrings Gonna have to try a bit harder than that to convince me that she isn't a self-insert.
>>566748953 >Gonna have to try a bit harder than that to convince me that she isn't a self-insert. actually I don't have to do anything because your opinion is meaningless to me
>>566749392 >waaaaaaaaaaaah from some slightly saucy game aimed at adults and maybe older teenager you see how easy that is? and how you couldn't even reach that bar?
>>566749623 Drawing Ralsei as this tiny meme goblin seems to be a form of cute aggression of sorts, deforming the character on the physical level because of how adorable he is to the artist.
>>566751119 The idea that Mother 3 can only be referenced if the Masked Man analogue is exactly the same role in the story being the protagonist's brother is frankly really stupid Noelle is far more similar to Lucas than Kris ever will be
>>566750293 Wild Arms 2 Kris will turn into a Knight lookalike (KnightBlazer) and then unlock a more powerful true form at the very end to overcome and defeat the Knight with by equipping the Pen of Hope (Argetlahm)
>>566751482 If Dessknight, Mother 3 is automatically being referenced anyway because it's another situation where the identity of the disguised antagonist is incredibly fucking obvious
>>566753235 i wish deltarune was more focused on puzzles than the battles you can keep the superbosses that give me trouble, but the random encounters are kinda tiring
>>566753265 That's because the fandom is genuinely fucking retarded. They've warped Toby Fox into this trickster figure, Tricky Tony. Except he doesn't fucking exist, he never has, Toby isn't le epik tweest master. The greatest twist Toby could ever pull is not fucking pulling any twists. Dess is the Knight, Asriel is at college, Kris isn't the Vessel, Hometown isn't a simulation/fake/a dream.
reminder that if your "theory" raises more questions than it answers than it's not a theory and if you just make up fanfic answers to those questions it's also not a theory it is currently impossible to have a real theory of who, what, and why the knight is
>>566754058 Chapter 1's ending along with the confirmation that Deltarune came from a dream mindbroke a lot of people Toby pulled the leg of people who want more Chara Evil Genocides one time and people think every single plot point is going to be a joke or completely random left-field reveals that make no fucking sense but can "technically" be put together by the "evidence" if you squint really hard The dream thing is completely misunderstood by most people who bring it up in that they think Toby is just developing a run-of-the-mill JRPG so he can randomly throw all the narrative themes out the window at the last minute for The Weird Crazy Fever Dream Ending, when in reality the entire narrative was crafted backwards to make the Fever Dream Ending ACTUALLY make sense
>>566754459 >when it's the same enemies repeated are you sure you're not thinking about the avoidable field encounters the minibosses and unique encounters are all one and done, except like K-Round
>>566754745 Reminder to all that the fuckin giant magic shapeshifting armor is clearly not just a regular Dark World transformation and still has to be explained for all candidates I have never seen a single Carol Knighter try to explain why she has that instead of a hue shift and an outfit change that doesn't modify her entire anatomy Dess believers have that Dess could've maybe had some weird shit happen to her from being missing in a Dark World for years and Rudy believers have that it's his cancer or something, but everyone else just ignores the massive elephant in the room
>>566754058 >Hometown isn't a simulation/fake Ok but it literally is though from the players perspective and remember we are a character in the story too. Also it's another Mother 3 twist for Toby to nab.
DessKnight is what you get when you give players a deer shaped clue in a story with a deer shaped hole. DessKnighters are so stupid and illiterate they can't think two steps ahead to see that their theory explain nothing, kick the can down the road and thus fail to fulfill the definition of "theory" in the first place while also ruining both mysteries of "Who is the knight?" and "What happened to Dess?" It's literally just morons clapping their hands to the intellectual equivalent of jingling keys because they are incapable of grasping the overarching story and the themes woven into the main mystery. It's okay if you don't understand, not everyone has to have a reading level above 5th grade but if you want to try your hand at puzzles, something like pic related might be more your speed.
>The real mystery to the Knight isn't their identity but what exactly happened to make them like that, That's the fucking problem you absolute hylic lobotomite skinvelope. If your "theory" creates more questions than answers while having zero proof and a mountains of evidence that contradict it that means it's not even a theory to begin with. From the very beginning of the game the story is set up as a whodunit where you're repeatedly reminded that the knight is a lightner you can recognize from their face and this is something Kris doesn't want you to do. You're telling me that the big knight identity reveal was the end of CH3 which absolutely destroys the entire mystery set up over almost a decade, mixing it together with another ongoing mystery and thus diluting them both of their narrative compellence while completely and utterly destroying the stakes of the knight reveal. Saying that Dess is the knight and what really matters is finding out how that happened explains nothing and kicks the can down the road. You not being able to see the logical conclusions of your own statements are really telling.
>>566754719 I say he's shartycore because he's obsessed with getting reactions out of people while also morally grandstanding whenever possible. Honestly I think there are enough people on the internet for him to a-log that he wouldn't need to jump to murder, the risk/reward would be off
>>566755394 Ok Mr Intellecutal who is the Knight then? What would be a satisfying answer to who is the knight and what happened to Dess? You must have one since you seem to think it's so obvious that anyone intelligent would know that it's obviously not Dess so go ahead and take your shot.
>he's the only character we know with a Black Shard >chapter 2 computer lab closet specifies a LARGE person could easily fit inside >phonecall kris has with the voice on the phone in the holiday mansion says "i'm on my way" and asgore immediately shows up >deals way less damage against kris in their battle, and spares them instead of swooning in the cutscene >tells sans he's been talking with his flowers and asking them for advice >his fridge can turn eggs into pickles (funniest shit i've ever seen) >very close with rudy, so he has a strong motive to find some way to heal him >never sells his flowers despite owning a flower shop (busy with something more important than losing his house?) >has the code to the shelter, which requires having the code from toriel, carol, and the police (asgore is very familiar with all 3)
Personally, I think any theory that brings up Undertale for whatever reason (as an example, as a reason, as a parallel, as an endpoint, etc) is wrong and should be ignored 100% of the time. Undertale is meant to be forgotten and replaced by Deltarune, it's literally just a glorified beta test for the real story Toby wanted to tell, and both its characters and storyline have nothing to do with Deltarune's besides some familiar faces showing up.
>>566756129 >>phonecall kris has with the voice on the phone in the holiday mansion says "i'm on my way" and asgore immediately shows up Actually it says "... I'll be... right there..." and notably every other instance of ... from the phonecall voice has implied missing words
>>566755394 >absolutely destroys the entire mystery set up over almost a decade Brainlet way of looking at the game. The mystery has to play the same for players in the future who have only played 10 hours as well as the fanatics who have been waiting since the start. Just because a mystery solution is obvious if you've read every line of text and seen every secret doesn't mean that it's too obvious to be true. Thinking Deltarune was meant to be a whodunnit is just a fundamental misreading you had waiting for Chapters after Chapter 2 rather than intentional from Toby. It was never meant to be a whodunnit and you just can't move on from that idea despite it being not true.
>>566756157 why would there be connections between the two games if toby fox didn't want his players to understand that these games are related on some level i'm not interested in changing your mind but there's a reason the developer has stated that it's best if you play Undertale before Deltarune. Deltarune was deliberately created and could only exist within the context of Undertale
Undertale exists so that when there's a Gerson boss fight you start jumping up and down and pointing at the screen and howling like an ape Therefore Undertale will still be important because for Gerson Deltarune to be cool requires Gerson Undertale to matter
>>566756475 people like that always have some weird hangup about the game or its creator that makes them ignore obvious shit because it doesn't fit their view of things
if someone says that you can't touch your friend without being gay that means the poster has never been touched by someone who wasn't trying to fuck them that's so sad
>>566755297 It's fake from a literal perspective. But it's not fake from a narrative perspective. If you are meant to pretend Gaster is the one speaking to us on Twitter, you are meant to pretend Deltarune connects you with a real place, at least for the time you are playing the game.
Having something like "Hometown is fake" would make people stop giving as much of a fuck, it's a psychological switch off and if Toby does any twists, he's not going to do something that risks how much people will care about the game and its characters.
>>566756840 I would like a fangame where you do a whole Dark World adventure from the perspective of a non-human without any sort of angel soul, but the game somehow conceals the fact you're playing as a Darkner the whole time and it's the big reveal once the human in your party seals the fountain
>>566756859 meta twists and fourth wall breaks are so integrated into the story that there's no way it can have an ending without them, it doesn't really make sense for it to that said i do think it's possible for the world and characters to have closure without meta shit, i mean Undertale was a meta game and you have a happy storybook ending there, it's just that if you open the game after it you're told through the 4th wall playing the game again would undo said ending. what i'm trying to say is that toby fox is good at reconciling traditional and meta narratives so there may be a happy ending but it can't exist outside of a meta one too
>>566757238 Sans will look at the Roaring and go "like zoinks man i gotta get outta here" and exit the frame and then fly across the screen on a sci-fi contraption and then will not appear for the rest of the game
It would be incredibly fucking lame if "the banishing of the Angel's Heaven" was just closing the game I'm not shartsader and I'm not complaining that "durrr they're not banishing the angel's heaven anymore toby changed the story" I just think it'd be really gay if THAT was what it meant all along
instead of gerson showing up to fight the titan it should have been jackenstein he sees everyone failing to outdamage the titan's healing and says YOURE TAKING TOO LONG
>>566757671 The only idea I've seen or had that makes sense is that the Angel is the Player and "Our Heaven" is supposed to be Castle Town. Us getting banished is the soul being thrown into castle town and locked in there forever, along with castle town itself. Maybe there's a game crash in the process but opening the game lets you do everything Castle Town would otherwise let you do, replay all the old minigames, talk to your recruits, maybe even a boss rush, you just cant leave and you have to accept the happy ending being implied, which is where Weird Route is meant to come in where you deny your role in the story and force it on someone else
>>566757526 see this is what i mean, you operate off of a flawed premise not actually indicated by anything ("Undertale is meant to be forgotten and replaced by Deltarune") and then scold Toby Fox because you think it's true. just constructing a strawman and beating it while masturbating
>>566758019 That could be interesting. But then there’s the issue of castletoen still existing. Does it get moved anywhere? People still need to use the school closet.
Fact: Toby made a real Mettaton NEO fight and a cool ass battle against Gerson that people wanted from Undertale because he fucking hates Undertale and anyone who liked it and wanted to tell them that things can only be cool if they're done in Deltarune instead
I don't think Weird Route is supposed to really be about the player trying to break the prophecy Firstly we can take on Weird Route before even seeing the end of the prophecy and it's not Toby's style to assign motivation on the player like that Secondly the whole route is predicated on us following Kris's lead and picking options they're giving us even if we initially get the ball rolling by commanding Noelle to use ice magic, the focus seems to be way more on Kris's desires and motivations and the player-player character connection than the prophecy
>>566758262 The fountain would be gone, Castle Town only exists in the perspective of it's Angel now. The "implied happy ending" the player has to accept is actually twofold, because the Lightners have to accept that Castle Town still exists when they cant see or visit it anymore unless one of them is particularly upset by the events that unfolded in the Light World and decides to actually stay in Castle Town as it's sealed coughcoughsusiecough
asgore will be the next lightner we can kill, because he was set up as being overly pushy and annoying just like berdly, so killing him will bring a similar sense of regret for people who wanted to kill him in the normal route finally getting what they asked for
>>566759313 because of this i think it's more likely that weird route for asgore would involve controlling him with a 'control crown'. i bet kris would like asgore's behavior to change
>>566758514 Kris actually wants the Weird route this is why they removed the thorn ring from Noelle and told her to not say anything and why they have a PTSD freakout after you put it back on. It makes so much sense.
Every time I refresh and one of doomba's worthless jelqposts vanishes, I get a little harder. I hope you're really cool and unbothered and smug about this >>566759117 You're talking about yourself aren't you (Not that I don't get it)
How come you can casually talk about Player being the Angel with no resistance and without anyone reminding you there's hints to Noelle being the Angel but if you assume the Knight is Dess you're immediately met with NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S NOT CONFIRMED YOU'RE FALLING FOR LE RED HERRING IT COULD BE RUDY IT COULD BE CAROL SHE HAS A SWORD WHAT IF IT'S [gagshit NPC no one cares about] WHAT IF
>>566759757 Kris has been shown to be able to ignore our commands when they really want to Kris follows Weird Route commands to a tee "The SOUL made me do it" won't fly as a defense when the time comes
if toby was based the weird route would be about forcing kris to listen to you instead of mindbreaking their dumb lesbian friend, i want kris to wear my fucked up torture ring, not her
chapter 5 snowgrave will be when we take full control of noelle and she becomes the new vessel we play as for the rest of the game that will be our kris fight
>>566760196 >if you draw ralsei as a silly cute feller like he is in the game instead of a smug fuzzy weed smoking femboy cwitter that doesn't resemble him at all you don't like him as a character veeery telly telly
>>566759948 Everyone is metapilled so all conversations take into account that the game ends with Gasterman suckling on your nipples in real life and Susie calling the player a faggot before blowing up their computer
>>566760287 >>566760378 the twisted sword has a "trance down" effect in contrast to the thorn ring's "trance up" if anything it'd allow kris to resist our command further
>>566760470 This is also why Dess Knight is so highly refuted because people think Dess's role in the story is supposed to be The Character Who Got Glitched Into The Video Game Coding after watching too many Chapter 2 era theories saying that's all she can be
>>566760684 >the twisted sword has a "trance down" effect in contrast to the thorn ring's "trance up" You've been mandingo affected. Thorn Ring and Twisted Sword both have just "Trance" as their effect name. The icon on the ring is a circle, and the icon on the sword is a downward arrow(or pointed tail)
>>566758514 >Not Toby's style to assign motivation on the player Mainly have two things to consider because I mostly get behind it but: >1: Genocide The game does paint it as you doing it from curiosity even if the reason might've been for the game's best music/boss fights. Or Dog forbid, Chara autism. >2: DR is incomplete Toby's Team, especially with the bit of dev hell from Chapter 3/4, could be focusing on making sure the chapters are complete even if some things won't make sense til the end. How we got the Rose even though they deemed it necessary to swiftly remove it of their own volition (perhaps in an earlier script of the weird route, the rose made more sense than the crack we got now). Weird Route could still be about the player trying to break the prophecy even if it won't make sense with how we're experiencing DR through the chapter format (if x chapter has weird route, lets put that content in and make sure its all functional even if just theory food until ch7 in 2030 so that we don't functionally have to make two games at once, first completing base DR and then do the process with all weird route content). ... I hope I explained my logic here because I do think there's a chance it has merit but also felt hard to put into words.
>>566760791 Doomer had to do his artschizo/artstomping bit for some random wacky ralsei picture condescendingly saying that if you draw ralsei as a silly chibi character you're a fake fan, anons are mocking him because the ralseis he posts are wildly offmodel and OOC because he is the actual fake fan and is projecting. Post is kill because he keeps getting flushywushied.
>>566755394 >>The real mystery to the Knight isn't their identity but what exactly happened to make them like that, I think i'm the one who initially posted this opinion alot sorry for schizopilling this guy i guess
the knight's identity is the casual mystery. anyone who's solved it then has the mystery of how that happened, and the how is Dessel (Dess using the Vessel)
party of three "heroes" spanton as the protagonist, starting out society for letting him end up how he did, but gradually learning to open himself up to others bit by bit, and that the greatest deal of all is friendship tenna as rival and frenemy to spamton, with positive interactions that let him work as the goku to spamton's vegeta
but here's the question: who should the third party member be? who has a personality that bounces off spamton and tenna well, and could have an interesting character arc to follow?
>>566762193 1 I hate when people have fun 2 I hate when people like popular faves 3 I hate when people like popular faves 4 I hate when people receive gifts
actually i'm starting to think kris would be a good third with spamton and tenna >heavy lore stuff and emotions to work out as an arc >would be interesting to see how they act with no player >much less talkative, to balance out hyper spamton and tenna would be
>>566763345 I used to be accepting of all trans people but after enough direct exposure to them online I have recognized that most of the ones you meet on places like discord are very dubious. At this point I can't blame a person for being suspicious.
Mad Mew Mew leaves me with a weird feeling because anime catgirl transwomen are the least trustworthy kind and I think being blindly wholly accepting this is a misstep because the internet has caused a lot of people to act in unhealthy ways Said Moldsmal
>>566763687 >would be interesting to see how they act with no player They wouldnt, thats the whole point I figured. Whether its to do the right thing or do the very wrong thing, Kris needs that kick in the ass that is a Player to be willing to do ANYTHING
>>566763345 nta you don't have to agree with a media's politics in order to enjoy it hell, plenty of leftists like it despite wanting it to be over the top obnoxious
>>566765441 I think I kind of hate how the big compelling theory swirling around that fandom is something I was able to infer conclusively as early as episode 1 just from the first scene. That show is so disappointingly shallow. Like she gets there with a headset that can't be removed, which can only reasonably mean: 1. Her physical body is in a coma/died/atrophied into a shell and her mind traveled to the game 2. She was copied into the game 3. The headset is locked/fused on
1 and 3 very quickly fall apart when you start thinking about it all. There isn't anything to this. Get a real mystery Also the characters should have been able to deduce this years ago by just talking and thinking about it. They have all the time in the world to do so and it is fundamentally important to their existence so they should care about working it out
>>566761170 >1: Genocide I think "experiencing all the coolest content" can be rolled into the curiosity angle Although I'll admit there's a few players who play genocide for reasons like "I want to play the bad ending first" or "I was just grinding and the game got spooky" or the CoL-like "I must take vengeance on the monsters and/or Toby Fox" but those are real outliers
>2: DR is incomplete It IS incomplete, but I think the incompleteness has been integrated into the game experience for better or for worse The way Weird Route is currently set up it works both as setup and as payoff: Think about the rose example, it's something that will presumably make sense when you've played through Normal Route, but playing Weird Route as Chapters are released means it becomes setup for whatever flower-themed bullshit we're about to run into Similarly, Weird Route can work both as something Kris wants to do and we allow because we're curious and as something we want to do after seeing the normal route ending and Kris's desires just happen to align to give us the perfect buttons for it
>>566766225 it's kind of ridiculous that the characters were in there for years and years and only started figuring out and doing basic things once the main character arrived.
>>566766225 why do you assume it's a secret, or that it even matters, why she's there? there was an episode that namedropped most of the theories to make fun of them you don't watch a romance movie and assume she's gonna end up with the janitor instead, that's not really why youd watch a romance movie, you just watch it to see the situation unfold
>>566742724 Every general about a single player game becomes a personal blog for people who think they're too good for regular social media. As soon as the game is over, this general is joining the rest of them in the filter.
>>566766489 This reminds me of the Dess Is Currently Calling For Help In The Code And It's Not A Flashback theory >established as having been missing for several years >only starts questioning where she is in Chapter 1 when the player arrives
>>566766723 Because I can tell it's something they're going to make a scene of in the final episode, and because I think this show is underwhemingly thin on ideas, and because I think it's really dumb that half hour (or longer) long theory videos get made about stuff with as much depth as what I just brought up and this is just the way the fans are fine with engaging with the show and the show seems to expect this and work with it
>>566766952 >>only starts questioning where she is in Chapter 1 when the player arrives the text spamton says in his shop in chapter 2 and the unused text is exactly the same in the japanese, he's quoting her directly
>>566766948 NTA but I won't use any social media with a post prioritizing engagement algorithm so 4chan is all I've got unless you know of something better
>>566767618 I can tho the final episode will focus at least partially on "we are ai clones, so we are stuck here forever oh noo" which will be concluded with "let's make the most of this limited existence for as long as we last" Never posted on /co/ BTW Ok seeya
>>566767589 gaster is associated with the code. all i'm saying is that this isn't a digital circus situation and there's nothing confirming the calls for help in the code began in Chapter 1. they could've happened a long time ago
>>566767849 this would be a fine plot point if it happened in the middle of the series and we got to see the character development beyond it, but wasting your entire show with completely stagnant characters building up to a "well okay whatever" ending is STOOPID!
>>566767992 I think we've been misunderstanding each other, the point I've been making is that they could easily be "flashbacks" to the past that aren't meant to take place alongside the concurrent story I just don't view it as someone being trapped in "the code" in a meta sense. The dialogue is in the code because that's where all dialogue is stored, it's just faux-unused strings and the code itself is not necessarily diegetic
>>566767374 >something better It's called "going outside". Socializing on 4chan is garbage, even in generals like this, that have disproportionate concentrations of women.
>>566768973 No, what sucks are all the chumps trying to inject themselves into my Deltarune and trying to pass themselves off as an inseparable experience.
>>566767321 I think it's a nice detail too. The weird bond they have is strangely endearing. The most powerful moment of Kris characterization to me so far is when they see nothing's happened after inserting Spamton into the NEO body, so they tap it, then shake it, hit hit, and kick it, trying to get him to activate. It's good stuff.
is gerson supposed to be an insanely easy fight compared to the other secret guys, or did I just get way better at the game from beating knight the day before
>>566769858 This. I really didn't mind but if I were grumpier and less trusting in tobysan's vision I might find it in myself to be disappointed by how easy it was
>>566769858 The fights designed so you take less damage every time you get hit because Gerson's training Susie. If you get hurt enough he just starts doing 1 damage I never did it though because the Knight made me ragequit secret bosses for a while
>>566770220 that game looks kinda interesting but i know the creator is some kind of heh freak so i was hesitant to check it out kris would definitely be an herbivore of some kind so they can eat the moss
>>566769254 >(You tapped the mechanism.) >(... Nothing happened.) >(You shook the mechanism.) >(You hit it.) >(You kicked it.) >(...) >(Nothing happened.) See, posts like this are the reason I come here. Something that puts my cortex in a vortex. Kris WANTS it to work. Because he KNOWS.
>>566768703 cool, I'm very addicted to mewgenics. 250 hours in. my house is full with chris chan voiced cats and the caterminator is coming for my ass because I killed Hitler.
>>566766096 The music in this is really nice. I like how it messes with the snowdin forest music, but I don't even know how I would describe the unique emotional quality it developed
faves personally thinks the concept of the weird route is a reference to the concept of the weird machine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_machine fave doesnt think its being done by the player for any one reason in the story (such as making noelle stronger so that she could fight a really strong boss later on or something) fave thinks the player is just along for the ride in the weird route, and anything that occurs as a consequence in the route is just that, a consequence for taking this weird route in this weird game
>>566757671 >just closing the game Heaven is where Angels live together, so banishing the Angel's Heaven would mean all players are no longer able to connect to the world of Deltarune. But the end of the prophecy is to be avoided anyway, so we'll work together to unbanish ourselves.
Fave thought it was a weird coincidence how Undertale 10th anniversary made him look up Plato's allegory of the cave because he'd never heard of it before, and then not too long after TADC also referenced a thought experiment Fave never heard of called the Chinese Room
fave thinks the concept of the player being the angel is retarded, and if this ends up being true, fave will make a tobysoft game of their own just to have a scene in it where fave mocks that particular potential plot twist
>>566774489 I think it's incredibly fucking cool and when I realized that the top-down perspective is us looking down at the world and Alvin references it when he says "May the angel watch over you" I pogged and was obsessed with it for weeks straight (the obsession but also the pogging I mean)
MY fave thinks that the anime art style is soulless and boring and they despise how obsessed western culture is with it and how this leads to people like Toby fox not just having an interest in Japanese media but pathetically larping as a foreigner to his own culture
>>566775014 i will forever be the crusader of SCC being an acronym for ACCEPT WEAKNESS and being sound broadcasting equipment in the game with MIKE FRIEND AIRWAVES
>>566774489 fave should remember there was a prophecy in undertale where the player was pretty objectively in the role of the angel and there's really no one else it could be except chara
>>566755394 If Dess isn't the Knight she is entirely irrelevant to the game and her introduction will be forced. You may see this as a pro or con of this game's writing but it's the truth
If fave doesn't exit the computer and suck my titties they are entirely irrelevant to the game and their introduction will be forced. You may see this as a pro or con of this game's writing but it's the truth
>>566775124 Think you ought to inspire the commonfolk to look at what the west has to offer by being that change, or at least point them to something that isn't anime inspired but worthwhile.
>>566775858 difference is you barely knew who asriel was by the end of undertale and that's by design. You were simply too late, it's bittersweet. With Dess you have all these teases it would feel deflating if you couldn't understand her deeply
>>566767021 >Because I can tell it's something they're going to make a scene of in the final episode Yeah, no shit, the characters have to come to terms with the fact that they aren't real and can't escape, which they've been either avoiding or badly coping with for the entire show. It's not a twist, but it's important to the characters. In episode 2, it's not a twist that Gummigoo is a NPC because that's established immediately, yet the emotional climax of the episode is Pomni reassuring him that he matters even if he's not a real person. It's a psychological drama, not a mystery.
>>566769858 If you played on a controller then it's extremely easy. If you played on a keyboard then it's still easier than the other Shadow Crystal bosses (sans NEO if you're good at shmups), but harder than normal bosses.
>>566775509 I never said he hasn't watched any anime at all. Everyone below a certain age has seen Pokemon on TV. He just doesn't seek it out and has probably watched less than ten series total, if that, and they were probably all mainstream series, most of which he saw as a child on TV. Even something extremely popular like Utena would be too deep a cut for him.
