>Tekken 8 important moves for each character https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTsgbCJNSTKajMNlJvQleJOl0eTiEcV-PbeU0obDg1lsSqmz0lTtcD2k6NzfTPt7Db9Ua2dz1o_34Sv/pubhtml#
>Fundamentals guide for Tekken 8 https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZQy6eD31dnu6ZzXliRQdVxtB9oT_ub-yCb00RVS0q0/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.64pwd7lfnzip
>>566732790 harada has experience on developing things on tight budget, if anything, any game that will come out of that studio will be the cheapest shit SNK has ever developed
do people realize making videogames requires a team and harada can't just will a good videogame out of nowhere especially considering how far removed from actual development he's been for like the last decade
Part of me hopes harada's new game is shit so everyone else recognizes him as the hack he is and part of hopes it's good so we get 100% confirmation about N and M being incompetent retards that need to leave for things to get better.
>>566733220 City of the Kino has been getting money out the ass with like 5 regular players. I'm sorry dixtranny but you lost and will never defeat SNKino, this is simply not a Nagoshi situation.
>>566733558 as far as fightans go he is as popular as it gets so definitely a net positive if you are looking to make something new in an already overly saturated market
Some anon the other day said that 3D fighters were dead, meanwhile we are getting an influx of studios and projects related to 3D fighters. ADHD in Tekgen has gone too far...
if his game comes out and is actually good, it's unironically gonna be a revival of 3d fighters, because tekken 9 for sure will be the most fan-pleasing entry since 5DR, like i love all fighting games and i see all this as a net positive for everyone involved, i don't want this to turn into an us vs them situation
>>566735014 the whole study motto is about the 90's, so my guess is that they want to make rooted games (it's probably going to be a card game for mobile TBQH)
>>566736040 >slighty off-frame blue lighting on Harada's face as a lighthearted jest on those overly dramatic pose of gaming persona did kitano frame this?
Rooted in 1990s Video Game Soft R&D, VS Studio carries vision, volition, and a vanguard spirit. Beyond tradition, crafted to perfection. Katsuhiro Harada, CEO
>>566735687 Not him but how are SNK fans winning in any way? SF6 Mai is an abomination that doesn't play like Mai at all. Their main game looks like this. I mean, the company getting utterly raped by Saudi money is probably very profitable for the suits @SNK, but it isn't resulting in anything good and tangible for the fans (if there are even any left). Absolute earliest for this potential Harada game to release is like 2030, and it'll most likely be a new IP and 3D, something SNK fans don't really like either.
>>566735520 >newfag or zoomer Murray was a translator who basically got up the chain by pure luck and chance, he's a shitty employee who would be unemployed in current times
he's the equivalent of that early 2000's guy in your workplace that started as a customer service guy but is somehow currently the head/chief of another big department
>>566737679 if i was rich, i'd get a pretty young girl like shion as my side hoe except she's literally just my wife in everything but name, i just insist on the side hoe moniker to make the relationship more racey than it actually is
>>566737112 >Not him but how are SNK fans winning in any way? They have the only current gen fighter that isn't complete dogshit. Yes it's embarrassing for the FGC that they'd rather play tranny slop like dix and soive, but thankfully the saudi gawds are continuing to fund the game (AND MORE) so they don't even have to care as much about normalfags being shit eating retards.
i hope whatever harada's vision is, the final product comes out well and he can sustain a creator-driven studio for as long as he can, for our late sensei's sakes...
>>566738819 only malding anti-saudi capbuck retards think that. everyone with a brain, on the other hand, can see how much the saudi gawds of snk financially stand by projects even when they're not commercially successful.
>>566739209 are you fucking serious? shinji mikami pulled that shit first? not to mention cave came from toaplan, just shut the fuck up and read up before spouting ignorant bullshit like how you brainrotted tourists are wont to do
>Speaking to 4Gamer, Harada said that the games he makes in the future won’t deviate from the action and competitive player-versus-player elements he’s known for. >The producer also wouldn’t rule out working on SNK’s own fighting game franchises in the future. “Speaking personally, there are certainly things I’d like to do,” he said, when asked about potentially working on SNK’s IP.“However, since it belongs to SNK, I can’t really say anything too freely. >Harada said he’s still recruiting for VS Studio, but one former colleague who’s joined him at the new venture is chief creative officer Yuichi Yonemori, the director of multiple Tekken games, including Tekken Tag Tournament 1 & 2
>3D KoF with Tag 1 smooth-as-butter movement and a bit of hyperjumping of KoF >4 modes: Solo, Traditional KoF Team Battles, 2v2 Tag Battles, Ratio-esque mode where you can mix and match >Huge roster with CoTW DLC schedule i'm salivating bros
imagine the bricks these two inbreds are shitting knowing they're on thin ice and harada is gonna receive an infinite saudibux infusion to make whatever he wants
>>566738272 everyone knows sf6 and tekken 8 are awful but it's still getting played, nobody in the fighting game space cares about what is good or not anymore
only way bamco can save face is doing T5DR remaster with netcode and we all know they won't do it just like capcom will never do SF4 netcode remaster
>>566741134 I think oda (the guy who's retarded and wasted all of snk money on making shit and is currently the director) is also seething and will try to get rid of harada
>Harada and Johnny guy from Tekken 4 team up >They have infinite money >Murray is not involved >We are not supposed to be hyped ????????????? is it dumb day today?
>>566742059 The entire thread shat on SNK regularly and made fun of them for their low playerbase, and it's not like anyone appeared to defend them either other than the 1 snk fanboy who was arguing about it being better than tekken in the first place so let's not pretend. >>566742126 Kek good joke.
>>566742537 >and made fun of them for their low playerbase literally nobody on tekgen gives a single shit about this outside of capcucks and /fgg/ shitposters who come on here to shitpost about steamcharts
>>566742718 >I speak for everyone bro, trust me You're so full of shit. We constantly have people posting and bragging about T8's good player numbers and making fun of doomposters with them.
COTW is regarded for having much better gameplay than SF6 by most of the pros, they just have to suffer playing dix because of money and clout. So Harada is going to have colleagues that are good at making games and he's gonna bring the Tekken old guard to the new studio, and they have infinite oil money. There is no way you can spin this as bad news, this is the greatest news in fighting games in a while really.
>>566742537 >I speak for everyone bro, trust me You're so full of shit. We constantly have people posting and bragging about Tekgen's doomposts and making fun of dix charttrannies with them.
>>566743295 I did a couple times, but I also have a life (gooning, playing video games, this list goes on...) and usually don't want to keep replying for hours on end in never ending internet autism-battles
>>566744342 Harada doesn't have game dev talent, but he has art talent. He's actually surprisingly good at drawing cute anime girls. The real director/design talent is coming from Yonemori though, yeah.
>>566744297 And you just so happen to be defending them now out of all times? What a coincidence. >>566744476 >making fun of dix charttrannies with them. Sounds like you were agreeing with me.
>>566744839 >And you just so happen to be defending them now out of all times? What a coincidence. Anon we just got huge SNK news, of course I'm defending them now. Also I defended them in the past too like I said in my posts, I was just explaining why I don't jump in and reply for hours every single time a dix tranny starts throwing a tantrum in here.
>>566743472 his interviews.. he always ever said that he wants real fighting styles in the game and that bears and dinosaurs are not that.. literally can google it, therefore i think even if he has that "anime-ish" posture (like yoshimitsu) he still wants it to be grounded, i strongly believe he hates everything from the modern games
>>566744839 >You're so full of shit. We constantly have people posting and bragging about Tekgen's doomposts It sounds like I was disagreeing with you. Dix charttrannies are the ones shitposting about SNK btw.
>>566745390 Making fun of dix chartrannies is agreeing with me anon, and even without that part your post doesn't magically make mine not count in the slightest. We objectively have people bragging about T8 numbers.
>>566745094 Sorry but I never saw your defenses pretty much any time we've made fun of them, even when they got new characters which was also big news. I just don't buy the extremely convenient fact that no actual /tekgen/ poster has ever shat on SNK here and also conveniently we never (or just rarely according to you) defend them either.
i'm calling it now. New VS/SNK game will inherit the unc playerbase of Tekken while Bamco will get the Newcomers/ New Gen, kunimitsu got views on Tekken JP youtube channel and New Fanart, so the new direction will be the waifus.
I was actually skeptical about strive but then I actually tried it and felt more positive emotions then I did during the entirety of Tekken 8. Also Giovanna alone is sexier and has more/better porn than any post Tekken 6 new bitch.
So Harada left because of creative differences; meaning murrshit has bandai’s backing and will be the main guy behind Tekken going forward. Yeah it’s over.
harada will pull an "alan wake 2" tier game, which is very good but only 20 people will play and enjoy it thus leading the studio to flop and main company (snk in this case) to take over just like it happened to remedy which now makes slop after slop trying to recover the money loss
>>566746370 this hack is still coasting on doom's success and all his done for the past 15 years was make failed products for mr. zuckerberg as a little mossad agent he is
>>566746516 You are though. You said "bragging about Tekgen's doomposts and making fun of dix charttrannies with them." which makes no sense, you're saying the doomposts themselves are the ones used to make fun of dix chartrannies. You did a piss poor job trying to re-write my post to "own" me. Either way it doesn't change the fact that what I said is true, we do have people bragging about T8 numbers which is the whole point here.
>>566746256 I think the most I may have said the last few days about SNK might be something about Mai being the only thing troon slimer got right (many are saying this). That and the soiface Neo-Geo AES+ image I posted.
>>566746720 I'm not though. When you mald about SNK winning, you're siding with dix charttrannies. Those were the people crying about about SNK and spamming sales charts.
>tekken but with no animals, anime weird shit, all males are cool, all females are hot and actual money and skilled devs to develop the game, with harada being a frontman marketing guy this will be the tekken you've always wanted, don't pretend that this isn't the case
>>566746990 >console doesn't exist broski pc is teh least played platform, it wouldn't have sold much there anyway (it was worse cause no one could run that game) consoles tho, it flopped there too
>>566747738 His doodles are just for fun, they aren't part of game development. >>566748068 I think I recall something like that when they were addressing her boobs being too small in the bikini. Which is based, but obviously that's not his drawing.
>>566749231 Chun Li is so hot bros. Bless Akichud, tragic what c*pcum did to her in dix, and thank GOD for SNK turning her into a breading mare in Kamige of The Wolves.
>>566749904 Didn't he joke in the past that they should've bought the Samsho IP? Now he can actually work with it. What sucks the most for Tekken is that he can probably grab other devs from it that still do a good job.
>retards think this news means tekken will work with snk it's obvious that harada got fired or forced to after the tekken 8 flop, if anything he will try his best to KILL tekken with his new game
>Dead or Alive 7 >Virtua Fighter 6 >Harada personally making a new 3d fighting game with SNK supporting him >Injustice 3 is most likely 3D if Tekken doesn't die with 8 you can believe there's no afterlife
>harada left are you guys really that dense? the guy loves tekken he would have never left. he got fired. he was literally put on that pacman 2D project thing even, how can you guys not see it? the company soft-fired him and forced him to leave so they didn't have to pay his leave. this is a known thing in japan
>Oidashibeya (追い出し部屋), or "banishment room," is a controversial Japanese corporate practice used to force unwanted employees to voluntarily resign by creating a hostile, isolating, or monotonous work environment. Employees are typically moved to a separate, sometimes windowless, office area where they are given tedious, meaningless work or no work at all.
>>566753542 he loves tekken so much that he had fuckall to do with tekken 8 and barely any idea what people were talking about during tekken 8 interviews
>got more and more irritated thanks to offline dying thanks to covid + everyone getting good netcode so people aren't fellating his gamedev ego anymore like you're in the 00's >promoted along with Murray, meaning he had to deal with other Bamco franchises too (he failed) >murray/nakatsu/mr esports backstabbed him between tekken 7 s4 and t8, meaning he has fuck all to do with tekken 8 design decisions (you can see nakatsu fingerprints all over the game) >even less and less tasks handled to him, barely speaking during tekken talk and acts like he's seeing shit for the first time (he is) >his almost lifelong friend dies
>>566753725 He literally said they were too incompetent to fix her model, it's not a matter of being fine with it. But again >>566747685>>566744810 I was talking about drawings
>Speaking to 4Gamer, Harada said that the games he makes in the future won’t deviate from the action and competitive player-versus-player elements he’s known for. >The producer also wouldn’t rule out working on SNK’s own fighting game franchises in the future. “Speaking personally, there are certainly things I’d like to do,” he said, when asked about potentially working on SNK’s IP.“However, since it belongs to SNK, I can’t really say anything too freely. >Harada said he’s still recruiting for VS Studio, but one former colleague who’s joined him at the new venture is chief creative officer Yuichi Yonemori, the director of multiple Tekken games, including Tekken Tag Tournament 1 & 2
>>566755009 >Anime IPs the only thing saving Bandai? (Wait I forgot about Toei having a gaming company now lol) Toei can make their own IPs, but not to purchase bandai licenses, also, Japanese Amine IP are on their lowest, except Dragon ball and Sword Art Online
>>566755009 toei is not the owner of DB ip that's shueisha I don't think i've ever seen an anime ip that was pulled from bandai though?
Naruto had some weird case where the IP was between two japanese companies (the other japanese company was competent with actual good games for naruto unlike bandai slop) until the video game IP was fully bought by bandai
>>566753897 >Employees are typically moved to a separate, sometimes windowless, office area where they are given tedious, meaningless work or no work at all AHHH I AM TORTURED GETTING PAID BEING ALL ALONE WITH NO WORK AHHHHHHHHH
>>566756908 >SNK have the money and won't fuck Harada around. we're talking about the same SNK that bows to saudis and allowed them to force their mascot ronaldo into their game?
>>566757660 i hate slime trooner dont get me wrong but the whole babby cousin marriage grooming plot was the most hilariously based thing they've done with the game and it still makes me laugh thinking how livid max soi was over it. shame but expected nu-shitcom cucked out.
>>566758278 3d art with axxaggerated proportions and fucked facial expressions are charming. it's like the 3d equivalent of of high school girl deviantart drawings
>>566758850 i hate them more than almost anyone else here I swear. i even pointed out they cucked out in the end so i feel like that should sufficiently cover my ass.
if they continue the nerfing stuff with Kunimitsu patch then Tekken franchise can be saved, if they just add her and finish the bimester than pack it up forever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exjmyaPM0ws >has hyped himself that Harada was going to be announced as a designer for VF6 >finds out Harada isn't going to be involved in VF6 >immediately loses interest in VF6 What do you call this?
>>566760285 Harada doesn't even have a full team yet. He is not releases around the same time as VF6. Heck, with this timeline he's releasing after DOA7.
if Tina and Christie models are good, the game can have heat, rev, drive and tension meter all combined along with 2 buttons and auto combos and will still justify the 70 dollars + dlc price
>>566765434 just put it in S&p 500 and forget bro 15-20% annual returns
if you don't want to do it the boomer way then go biotech and hard study/research the companies (if u want to skip research I recommend ABVX, CRVS, OMER. ABVX has an easy 100% coming, CRVS 200-600% depending in reaadouts, OMER 100-300% near locked)
>>566766147 no worries i got my port from 15k in jan 26 to ~400k now. with 80% of it in ABVX currently. How? I basically did VERY RETARDED (cannot not recommend enough) full porting calls in biotech readouts i was confident in (for example CRVS, I bought 14 calls when it was at 6. it went to 25. KOD i bought 39c when it was at 22 prior to readout) etc. I do NOT recommend this as you can lose all your money and its simply a personal decision of mine
biotech is a gold mine but you need to do your own DD and very very hard. don't believe any retards on twitter or stocktwits or something of the sort or you'll lose your money tho >>566766254 What's your problem?
>>566767205 too early to tell, i literally just booted it, will be playing later, so far i can say that the peformance are fine, graphically is your usual UE5 i guess, we'll see if it's fun or not
no survival >Capcom took guests >4 other 3d fighting games >Harada was an actual double agent >Capcom also deliberaterely dropping the big updates along with Tekken 8 >negative communication with the fanbase now since they're doing everything on Discord
>>566757990 only in non gringo countries i'm afraid, girls over here are like 5'3 at the most but it the US and France they were like 5'9 on average, at least white girls. your women are fucking huge
>>566765710 im chasing full port 200k loss with a few hundreds every now and then so im in full destructive mode with options. fucking biotechs made me rich and also broke me in half
>>566768832 Don't do that or you're losing ur shit also at 200k you should not full port shit anymore man. and if you do you gotta at least buy puts to hedge
>>566769827 biotech companies two of those are pre-rev. so the increase in share price is driven by readouts of their drug results which come in phases (phase 2 - 3 tend to be most impactful) abvx has a ph3 maint data in june and ph2 in late q4. ABVX has had multiple buyout rumors, I think it will get bought out before end of year. probably in august or sept for 170+ (likely around 180-220) CRVS has a ph3 late 26 and a massive one in AD ph2 in mid 26. If both of those hit, it will easily go for 60-80$. Buyout also possible but don't count on it OMER has a drug for a rare disease, a monopoly. and they have massive amounts of cash + 1b in potential milestones with partner. There's little to no risk except of execution risk. Buyout also possible but don't count on it
harada has not done any real game development related decisions or work in decades and will not do anything meaningful at SNK either he will just be a talking head to shill the newest slop created by indian slaves, chatgpt and shareholder expectations
>>566771572 that is unironically fine and what I expected/would prefer. h should continue to be the funny meme pr guy while y makes tekkino in the shadows.
>>566771572 Kind of based. What's wrong with milking the Saudis on his way out? He's done lots. His biggest faux rival and homie passed away and Tekken is looking worse as time goes on, so fuck it. Let him get an extra bag.
>>566771572 I'm not even sure if this studio will even produce anything or just fade quietly into the night. That being said I'm kinda hoping he does make something and it fucks over Bamco. Bamco is top 3 worst companies in gaming right now and deserves nothing but the worst.
>>566771572 It can't be that hard. Rip has virtually zero experience in game development and yet was the combat director for Invincible VS, the Cannon Brothers just grifted Riot and made 2XKO. Harada will be fine.
why yall talking about lack of experience when harada and yonemori are both very experienced. everyone looks forward to okami 2 even though kamiya hasn't made a game in 17 years.
>>566773054 they're on par. i'm not as familiar with invincible vs but i haven't heard any good things about it other than it has some gore to appeal to mk fans, and 2xko is one of the worst fighting games i've ever played. the decision of making T8 length combos that deal 20% health is one I can't understand + tag slop + ekko exists + horrid monetization
>>566772127 >Tekken is looking worse as time goes on,. Kunimitsu got a good design huh, nips liked it, tekken design is somehow consistent, even on stages.
>>566773054 >2XKO no lol >Invincible VS it needs better animations and art direction.
>>566775129 Depends on how long they plan on maintaining Tekken 8. If they prefer to rush out the next one yeah. I expect it to come out after VF6 and DOA7.
>>566775343 actually 90% of them post on both sites for maximum exposure. you will usually find an artist's pixiv link on their twitter profile and vice versa.
Harada gonna do an itagaki. He'll coast by with his name and legacy brainstorming some fantastical game ideas with his studio that leads to nothing before dying of some nebulous disease
>>566775660 They dragged Soulcalibur for 3 titles before putting that thing in the freezer. Even if Tekken 8 isn't performing to standard (which we don't know), they'll keep the series alive.
>>566775704 the algorthm picked up the t7 season 3 trailer because it became a commonly linked meme for the fahk's magically changing height. like one of the most popular tekken videos period is cheeseyoni's choreographed noctis vs kuni fight.
but tekkenchannel it correlates really well to popularity as it's basically only watched by a core audience of japs. fahk's trailer is among the lower dlcs and sheen's trailer has half the views of the least popular base roster characters.
>>566775884 kotomaru and hisui kotomine both link to skeb and have no pixiv links. Ushiwakamaru drew one of the kuni panels that made it into tekken 7 and has no pixiv. Yusa has a pixiv link but didn't even post his kuni drawing there.
>>566776803 wait that's it? the way you were typing made me think there was a big army of kuni artists but no it's literally just 4 people, 3 with the fact that one of them is on pixiv (assuming the other 3 aren't just cases of people who do have a pixiv but didn't bother linking it on their profile that is).
>>566777210 https://www.pixiv.net/users/7556237 lag didn't post her kuni there either. it's just very common for old pxiv profiles to be basically aabandoned now even if they do link them
>>566778302 harada never gave full official usage for t7, just specific characters but he brought that up when discussing tekken 7 usage anway. alongside how those two maintain it across every game for decades. but also king is straight up the most recognizaable tekken cahracter period , for people only passingly familiar with tekken it's the game with the cat faced wrestler. it should be surprising that he gets so many views. he's popular in every possible facet.
>>566779382 point isn't how many people total are doing tekken art but that pixiv isn't a good indication of that amount. tekken will always get less that straight fighter and let's be real, kof too but only because they also get more twitter art .
>>566780146 saying "nips liked it" implies there's considerably more than a handful of artists aboard the bandwagon. that's how waifu popularity always works in the modern age.
>>566780016 >king's t7 trailer was nowhere near as popular though, it was a fart in the wind (and that's in relation to other much more popular t7 trailers in general mind you, not just t8 since obviously they had a bigger audience by then)
>>566780016 how many times do we need to point out that leaderboards weren't good as usage stats? the developers update their stats every motnh which you could see on the official websites for the arcade version and some characters drop over time. with leaderboards the only way for a character to drop in ranking is for another character to get more total players than them. a character that had a lot of players at the start but then fell off will keep their high placement.
https://x.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1390175074485825537 look at where harada put kazumi at the same time this was claiming kazumi was the most popular female. you can be sure fahk fell off hard too.
>>566780513 tekken 7's character trailers are a lot less popular. they did get the same marketing machine for the home version lead up the way tekken 8 did. like if a character got a trailer at all because msot of them were in the game for years already.
>>566781000 i'm pretty sure miary had more than 5 artists on pixiv alone after her reveal. like it was still pathetically low and they fizzled out quickly but still.
>playing ranked set against tekken king lidia noobie with character i dont play >final final round of 1-1 set >im about to win but i walk forward and give him the win when he's 1hp
was i nice or is it rude? felt like it was so meaningless i may as well give the lil kiddo points since im not even trying/dont play character and their a noob
>>566781296 kuni right after her tekken 7 reveal had more than miary on her 8 reveal. but a character being totallty brand new is the best moment of fotm.
>>566781535 most tekken 7 characters do not have a proper gameplay trailer all of their own. it was something they did for the console exclusive characters and the dlc. the arcade time release trailers wouldn't even air on official channels. and jin benefit from an actual reveal since he wasn't in the initial roster.
>>566781801 you just said we were talking about "in relative to the rest of t8 dlc" what are you bringing up t7 for? actually nevermind, doesn't that just show that nips just don't care much about t8 compared to 7? t7 used to get waaay more fanart than this. imagine, reina would actually have doujins had she debuted in the previous game.
Tatsugiri, she's taking it raw Treasures of Ruin, we be pulling sticks everywhere Ain't talking Smeargle, I came here to draw Regidrago how I'm dragging my nuts in her maw Bitch, I am still not your man Ain't no defense when she having withdrawls That bitch does crack like Alakazam Feel like a Gimmighoul how I be keeping my shaft in her chest We be having irrational sex Steady filling this bitch like the National Dex Got the pussy Meowth Gigantamaxed how it stretched
>>566782102 okay but king's trailer did air on official channels and you said that "he's the most recognizable character" yet his trailer got dwarfed by most of the other character trailers t7 got. also his t8 trailer is the most popular of all despite being in the initial roster so you're not making much sense here.
>>566782751 king does not have a tekken 7 gameplay trailer. he has a 20 second clip made for the console version that got bundled in with a bunch of other characters. he never had to get revealed for tekken 7 as he was already in the location tests
>>566782467 anna and lidia were returning female characters that didn't cause any buzz in japan when they released for 8. Kuni was already always appearing in the top 10 for japanese popularity polls back in t7. so her design alway successfully target japan compared to them.
>>566783316 his recognizable face is the one on the thumbnail though and it is on the bamco channel. more people play on console than arcades too. also come on, he didn't need to get "revealed" for t8 either cause everyone knew he was coming back even without an arcade period yet he's still the most popular trailer of all.
>>566783896 those can't even be compared to tekken 8 trailers because that style of trailer began with the console exclsuive characters. and they didn't really get the production value we associate with them until the geese trailer.
>>566784896 you say that but the king t7 "trailer" did get similar views to the armor king t7 one which was an actual full on reveal. armor king should also be recognizable as "the cat faced guy" like you said earlier yet his numbers were still pretty lackluster. his t8 trailer also did 3 times as good as miary and kuni's funnily enough.
>>566787398 that just shows how meaningless trying to use t7 trailers is. both kings rank high on every type of popularity from usage to general recognizability so they did well in tekken 8 marketing t8's falloff caught up with it.