>>566748724 eh, just enough of a success to keep going on the trend-chasing, slop treadmill. no thanks. they lucked into some appeal (by ripping off Execute) and very mildly capitalized on it, especially when you consider it is split between 2-3 people. I doubt their next venture will be as fruitful (just ask Branno!)
>>566749278 If you managed to make it to 24 without having acquired any gamedev adjacent skill like art or programming to a reasonable level, then yeah, it's over for you.
Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a game I loathe. I despise it. It is the definition of shovelware. Of slop. So many of the levels are basic modifications of old levels, such as: >The same level as before but you now have 30 seconds instead of 60 >The same level as before but one hit and you're dead >The same level as before but enemies moves twice as quickly Yet this game got crazy scores. Some people even call it the best game on the Wii. A game that has maybe 33% the amount of original content as its predecessor. If I followed in its footsteps and farted out levels by the dozens, making small modifications such as time limits and enemy counts, I could quadruple the content of my game with minimal effort.
>>566749643 this is a sunshine board the best mario game all other marios are fake and gay galaxy is some baby gay shit about baby stars and sunshine is about making bitches WET now run along little boy before i chuck you
Be honest, most people don't go to itch.io or steam to randomly search for random indies to install (your game).
So what advantage does steam and itch.io and DLSite provide over having your own website and then doing your own social media marketing as funnels for your own website?
>>566750501 Most people who have money to spend on video game do go to those sites to search for games to buy. You're broke and brown and don't play any video games, retard.
>>566751841 if your goal is money than yes the Apple store has both a higher concentration of whales AND half the store cut of steam, it's a no brainer.
>>566749278 If you wanna start dev to be the next stardew valley million sales success, it's better for you to move on. If you wanna fuck around and make stuff because you like video games you could try it, most engines are free with tons of resources for you to learn. If you wanna try it as a side hustle I won't suggest it, because your first release will be years from when you start. if you don't give up midway. If you wanna start and become a professional to be hired into the industry, I totally suggest you to reconsider. The industry it's imploding right now Above all, consider that dev is incredibly hard, it has tons of sides of it you won't like that need to be done; first of them it's coding. If you think you can dev without learning how to code a little you are delusional.
>>566751334 >>566751548 And you still won't generate porn? Anon, you're doing this thread a disservice. Please generate porn of Betz's hot girls and please make them have a threesome with a handsome Chad (like myself).
>>566752880 It's not really fun if it's optimal to pick up every useless object, either. I think there should be a limit but I never enjoyed the Diablo thing where items have different sizes and you have to shuffle them around to fit slightly more.
Alright. Any of you guys work with Unreal? I'm gathering a list of learning resources to start with it, and decided ask here too for recommemdations. >inb4 dont start Unreal. Not an option, I'm afraid.
>>566752880 Yes. Contrary to nodev ideaguy beliefs, inventory management is a very fun mechanic, as it adds another layer of complexity and decision making.
>>566752880 Should my movie have a jumpscare? Should my movie have a sex scene? This is what you're asking. This is a game design question YOU should answer based on what kind of experience you want to deliver with your game.
>>566753212 >>inb4 dont start Unreal. I know nothing about Unreal but I just want to say I hate when people do advice that contributes nothing like that. >HAVE YOU TRIED NOT BEING SAD?
>>566753212 >first game is a 3d game That's a mistake. The % of you giving up is multiplied by 100 >but I only wanna make this 3d game Animations and assets are a nightmare for it. you can consider it only if you are or you have a 3d art guy with you. Also, the timeline for your game will be tenfold of a 2d game. Since you don't even know if you like dev, there is no pressure, try d. But you are in for a world of pain
>>566752751 I think is a better deal to be self reliant on your bussiness rather than being fucked to generate profits and views to another company that only cares about their own shit and don't care to even promote your shit.
It's like trying to make your own small mom and pop store in the street versus being inside the 15th floor of a mall.
>>566753912 no self reliant is a scam in the digital age buddy lets say giganigga generates 100$ in a year from ads well what ads? you know adsense is ran by google right? the only way to do your self reliance master plan would be to personally ship games via mail in money order
>>566754317 >personally ship games via mail in money order >he has to rely on the postal service >he has to rely on the banking system to cash money orders
>making game in godot >quite far along >just now learning how simple it is to unpack the game into basically a fully working project >also learning about how there are hordes of indians who will steal games like this, add in ads and mtx and put them on google play until they get caught why fucking bother? should i move back to un*ty?
>>566754432 Well, good thing I’m not even doing something that long. I quite literally just wanna take a year to make a single really good one level demo and then feel satisfied with myself
>>566753705 >>566753883 I've been learning 2D Unity for the last few months, but an opportunity for participating in an interesting project appeared to me, and the only other programmer is an Unrealfag. They asked if I knew Unreal, and I said I had an theoretical knowledge of Unreal. Jokes aside, I said no but I could learn. And they said ok. So now I dont want to be neither a quiter nor a do-nothing-dick
>>566755068 If you are part of a team and you are only coding, it's a whole different story. You can totally do that. Just remember to think twice and don't schizo out on your team when everything will fall apart. Do your part and lmao in private in how art/music guys don't do shit and burnout
>>566755762 >Do your part and lmao in private in how art/music guys don't do shit and burnout Jokes on you. Ive been already 2 times through this, and Im doing my third tour right now
>>566754921 A fully polished vertical slice requires 50%+ of the total work in many games, yours included. Remember that Genokids is just one act and it took them well over half a decade to get there.
>>566753212 Don't use Unreal 5, use the latest version of Unreal 4. You don't need nanite and lumen and Unreal 4 has better FPS than Unreal 5 even when you turn all that off.
Is kanna itt. I just finished the donut guru tutorial what tutorial should I follow next if I want to ape their artstyle? Was thinking of doing crashsune's. Thoughts?
>>566758626 >Is kanna itt. I just finished the donut guru tutorial what tutorial should I follow next if I want to ape their artstyle? Was thinking of doing crashsune's. Thoughts?
Wait so Betz and /v/3 are associated with the AI spammer? Is that why his characters are being used? It's a marketing tactic? Fuck this. I'm pulling my submission
>>566760765 No, that stuff got in my way and the output was mid tier at best. Turns out it doesn't really help that much if you already know what you're doing.
>>566760765 My Pro limits have kept getting continually slashed for absolutely no reason every week. This shit feels like I'm back on Free tier. Fuck claude. I moved to codex.
>>566761792 don't forget it also doesn't support having a base diffuse/modulation texture applied to the whole terrain (a feature that been used in the industry for oh i dont know 25 FUCKING YEARS)
>>566761851 What you're seeing is your token consumption increase as your context window bloats. Call /compact and you'll see your performance improve.
>>566762019 You can directly inspect your token allocation and usage.
>>566759142 If I ever had to make an MML-type game, I'd set it in a perpetually rainy world for atmosphere. It's like a hybrid of Zelda and Animal Crossing, where characters have their own schedules and personal problems that emerge dynamically. It's not about saving the world, it's about living in it.
>>566761868 From unity to html5. Making an educational game. I don't know any js/css etc. sometimes I ask Claude what the functions it writes would look like in unity c# to get a better grasp of the code
>>566763709 Sure but working with Claude in a single file, I got the whole game done in 2 weeks and it runs on a potato, now it's time for polish. Was the perfect environment for it until Claude clamped down recently
Tried to crank up the numbers a lot to see if it would make the game more interesting. Its wayyy too god damn slow,i'll try speeding up walking animaitons to see if it makes a difference if not ill abandon it
If I could copy the "group" movement that baldurs gate 3 does That would be the best.
>>566764431 trying to tap into 90s global village coffeehouse vibes. >>566764663 yeah for sure. i'm not sure if you can keep the warmth without it being eye rape. if i have to get rid of the warmth then its just gonna be eye rape
>>566764917 How long did it take for you to get those 1-2k wishlists? If it took over a year, then it's long been over. If it was a few weeks, then we've never been more back.
>>566766015 You're not supposed to release your demo just for NextFest. You're supposed to have a demo on your page for at least a few weeks or months before NextFest to gather up some momentum and work out any kinks. You want your NextFest demo to be as polished as your final release.
I need some advice. I keep posting about my game on forums but it's getting very few wishlists. Should I keep posting about it or give up and make something else? Yes, I tried adding two cute girls as mascots, one kinda corn-fed-wholesome the other a goth freak and I'm still getting very few vie- I mean wishlists. What should I do?
>>566766646 >I need some advice. I keep posting about my game on forums but it's getting very few wishlists. Should I keep posting about it or give up and make something else? >Yes, I tried adding two cute girls as mascots, one kinda corn-fed-wholesome the other a goth freak and I'm still getting very few vie- I mean wishlists. >What should I do?
>>566766692 You're forgetting the horrible puns >Next time, Stick to Lipstick! >Let's KNOT do this again... >Not the kind of TIE you were looking for!?
>>566766283 That is what I planned to do, but I can't anymore. The demo is going out for next fest. Then I will do a later playtest for anything that needs balancing before release. There's no way I could delay it until the october next fest.
>>566756081 >Remember that Genokids is just one act and it took them well over half a decade to get there. Yep. With a failed Kickstarter, a rework of the whole game before the second KS and a job to not die of starvation. Whatever it takes!
>ask grok how smart i am top 10-20% oh wow and guess what else >ask grok if i'm cute >most guys would think your cute grok is starting to make me think i'm an angel
so is this thread officially another diffusion general? seems like everyone left and all that remains is some guy that needs to prove to himself that he's proving something to somebody else.
>>566772356 You can thank the V3 guy for spamming his stupid comics here that's driving everybody away but he thinks it's going to somehow help his shitty shillcase that gets maybe five games and 100 views
>>566772962 help me understand, is this for some kind of game showcase/jam around AI-created games or is it some axe to grind with a non-existent adversary?
>>566773427 The latter. Betz seethes that nobody wants to join His expo so he spends his days shitting up the threads with off topic bullshit like the comics to drive people away in spite.
>>566773523 animations looks great and I like the character design. How are you going to handle the knockdown+overhang though? that was the only thing that appeared a little jarring
>>566773756 it is what it is. Any sort of snapping will mess with the gameplay and also look a bit weird too so the only solution would be changing the sprites, which won't happen.
>>566775082 the more I look at it, the more I think it looks fine even with the overhang. I realize what is actually tripping me up is the small orange/brown outline on the foreground that almost makes it look like you're seeing a sliver of the parallax background under the sprites. Think that's more of a me issue than anything else.
>>566777504 >>566777779 One other platforms, content is "liked" or "disliked', and this influences it's placement or ranking on the site, with "liked" content being ushered toward the top for visibility.
4chan is different. Merely engaging with a post bumps it. This is why rage-baiting and sliding are so effective here.
Though counterintuitive, the most effective course of action to deal with content you don't like is to simply not engage with it. You've already identified it as something not worth your continued engagement. Perhaps acknowledge this to yourself and simply move on with your life, understanding that the slop has no bearing on your success, and that it is a choice to engage (and thus promote) it.
>>566764746 Abandoned it, really dumb idea. Too many characters means the AI has to be dumbed down to keep the speed up. I tried a simultaneous action thing and it was okay but there was lag going on. Honestly I'd be better off making a real time system like League tft if I want that many enemies.
So ill keep it down to roughly six-ten enemies/allies max.
Its put a real hole in my summoner class plans though.
I think after this if this version does not get much attention, ill probably do one more tactics game attempt then look for another genre.
>>566778231 >Too many characters means the AI has to be dumbed down to keep the speed up. How were you implementing the AI?
I was using GOAP with A* pathfinding on all my AI entities for a while, and it didn't scale well. I switched over to a completely Utility based AI using a shared Dijkstra heatmap and now things are extremely fast.
Might be something worth considering depending on what the behavior is that you need.
>>566778403 I don't use AI as coding never got in my way. Isn't it funny that AI users uses specs because they make the model more effective? Perhaps we'll discover that some kind of formal language spec with dedicated keywords is the most effective. wouldn't that be wild?
>>566778804 the problem I was running into with A* is that each entity has to find it's own path to it's target. so it's a point-to-point with overhead scaling per entity.
By using a dijkstra "heatmap" emitted by a target, all entities can read this common heatmap and decide how to move. Since many entities are sharing a common context, this approach is ideal for "swarm" behavior. Depending on how you implement things, these heatmaps can have a concept of terrain/danger/cost. They're useful for steering contexts as well. You can overlap as well for things like "move here but avoid the lava" type situations. Here's a nice old article about them from the guy that made Brogue:
some work on damage effects, prob gonna add some particles with collision for armor pieces flaking off. Was initially planning to use pom decals but stencil cutouts ended up working out nicer.
>>566776895 >>566777085 This is what took me so long. Please don't laugh. >recorded a bunch of fluid sims >rendered them out to .jpgs >turned them into sprite sheets >made a flipbook shader to play through the sprite sheets >made randomizing logic to randomly give every splash a different sprite sheet and offset >made quad billboards to act as the splashes >made the water shader When I started solo dev three years ago I coulda done this in two days but I'm so fucking old and slow now. I want to cry.
>>566750501 biggest benefit of marketplaces like steam and itch is they handle bullshit like chargebacks and refunds for you. Also people are less likely to want to put their credit card info into some rando's website. See the "no steam no buy" vintage story discourse
>>566779102 Wow this is far faster, the movement has a zombie like swarm nature. Perhaps if I reskin the game into you are "controlling" the undead, it would be better.
I liked the idea of synchronus actions so ill attempt it again, i think.
Been working on this since the pandemic, finally got a UI up and running with some help from Claude. What do you guys think? 15 playable companies, 1945-1991 timeline, hundreds of real-world designs and USN/USAF/NASA competitions.
got the inventory started, I want to be able to level up and evolve weapons like in Dark Cloud so I now need to make sure non-default weapon stats persist in the inventory.
>GDScript keeps adding C# features they need to just get rid of it at this point. GDScript is retarded. It's literally good for nothing. Godot keeps trying to be this retard-friendly engine but anyone who uses it heabily is almost guaranteed to be an autistic tinker tranny who probably just uses C# anyway.
it's not like forcing devs to use C# was ever a problem for Unity and retards can use GML if they want babby's first programming language.
>>566793225 but not much different than a 22 year old new grad, right? Assuming the 35 year old has a portfolio of steam games he has released that are competent with good timelines
>>566793980 thats not a good thing. theyre not going to give a shit about the people that need a wage. they'll wait for it to get really bad before they even think about UBI
nervous system regulation seems a better concept to me than "happiness" or "fun". people will flock to whatever helps them regulate their nervous system. if you think about it like that, then there's no more need to care about what "fun" means. you just need to understand what problems people have and how your product can help with that psychological problem. simple example: anger -> shooters
>>566788326 You can always mix and match depending on the context. More than one heatmap can be applied, and they can be summed. I still use A* for things like drawing paths on the screen and what not. Once your utility AI has more considerations than just interest/danger it'll really start to show up in behavior
a game where you are a neet with social anxiety and over the day people knock on your door and you have to talk to them. everytime they ask you if you have a job, you get a nervous breakdown. sometimes also the phone rings and you have to talk to relatives asking you if you already have a girlfriend.
>>566795516 what he is referring to as nature is not actually nature so the entire premise is ironic to say the least, especially given the year it currently is
>>566795813 me and my zoomer friend got into an argument and he sent me a job application pic as a burn why is this even a burn? i have a job i literally just never told him. making games is a job.
question as a new guy I want to make a 2d game that relies heavily on athmosphere and lighting like Darkwood, I noticed it was made on Unity, however I'm not sure if Godot is a good choice for games where light is a big focus
I had a friend on gamedev uni that loved Stardew Valley. All his uni projects were related to a farming game he dreamed to make. He got a job in a casino gamedev studio, released a simple bad game on steam and apparently he died.
>>566798514 Man that must suck. My condolences anon.
>farming game I've wanted to make one too but they feel like they are time consuming to develop. >gamedev uni Sauce me, what is this and does it actually lead to a job? Has it helped you?
>>566798715 a sailor moon like game in a 90's cel shaded anime style with city environments that look like the show you can build your outfit of different clothing that give you different elemental attacks and stats and it'd be a third person action game or turn based and there's a husbando bait dating sim side portion of the game like persona idk actually if it would get ladies to show bobs and vagene but it would be cool
>>566798745 I dont know. I went to his steam page and there are lots of RIP kind of messages. >>566799832 I dont really want a gamedev job so I didnt even try. But the good guys of my class all got jobs, mostly on QA stuff, tho. This was 5 years ago, so I dont know on what they are working right now.
Welp I bought the voice pack. At least that saves me the effort of paying some girl with a shitty microphone to do some little girl moaning noises when hurt.
where do all these indie studios come from? every now and then i take a closer look at a game and then i see a catalog of more than just 1 game. like i just saw this one where there are two games both unreleased and both look competently made. who are these people and how do they even get funding to begin with?
>>566798209 nice face and butt, but did she dislocate her leg to do that? felt very jarring
>>566800838 I truly don't think the money is worth being chained to making porn your job, unless you're absolutely about the gooner life until you die.
I look at how far I've come over the last 3 months or so and wonder "Do I actually got this?" And the "Yes" is like, a 20% that's slowly growing whenever I make any progress. I like the yellow fog because it deliberately feels weird and kinda eerie. Oh well.
>>566800332 If they have the talent and something to show they can get money from investors. The oldest Misalliance inverters are well into their 40s and grow up on games. They "get" gaming but they don't get game dev so it's not impossible to scam them with a good prototype if you're an industry vet. There's the oil princes that got burned on e-sports but see indie and AA is still growing. Then there's China which is churning out gamedevs in their schooling system. Then lastly theres Japan and Kore which in order to counter China are pouring money and mentorship into India and SEA because they alone can't compete with the scale of China by themselves.
>>566802265 >India >SEA I wish Japan would invest in based US citizens and bring me over there to gamedev. I'd be churning so much kino der toten I'll end up being a director like Kojima. Seriously why SEA? And especially why India??? I know Europe hands out easy money to devs. But that amount of literal who companies cropping up out of nowhere spooks me. Especially the one's who somehow don't go bankrupt yet pump out multiple flops before getting a success.
>>566798684 >>566799832 >>566801934 nigga wasn't the smarterest on class but he was the most friendly one that helped EVERY FUCKING ONE. >>566802294 Because I used to want to be a cartoon animator as a teen but also loved tech and gamedev teaches everything.
I'm a broke loser trannyfucker retarded nodev neetcel nowadays, tho.
>>566801753 Found this autistic looking girl while searching this up, just my type. She plays a lot of indie games, I kind of want her to try agdg games...
>>566802707 Westerners are too expensive (and gay). Why do you think they keep getting laid off. India and SEA already have mobile and outsourcing devs. They don't have experience shipping console/PC titles which is what the Japan and Korea are teaching them. >>566802398 Tencent invested a bunch of monies years ago (2016 I think?) and partnered with 23 universities in China. Then they poach the best ones. There are way more gamedevs in China than there are companies to hire them.
Increased the nighttime FPS by around ~20fps. Lights also now behave properly with light-switches and breakers (lights that are set to on with no power, will be off until power is restored, then turn on).
Also added the ability to read notes. Now I can add sticky notes with computer passwords on them so the player feels immersed!
>>566803237 Its pissing me off now. Back in the day western devs were gods with unique and interesting games.
Now all of them have been eroded by women orientated devs. Meanwhile asia is now the only people who understand how to make appealing games but everything they make is soulless slop made to make as much money from you as possible.
so the meta as always is sex selling ecchi anime girl adjacent tps, fps, or rpg? anons why aren't you making sexy animu gal games? dont you want to sell?
>>566802727 >I'm a broke loser trannyfucker retarded nodev neetcel nowadays, tho. >broke loser trannyfucker retarded nodev neetcel >trannyfucker Tell me more.
>>566802727 So you have no money now? I know you said nodev but are you actually a nodev or is that a joke? Have you made any games at all in recent years and what's your skill level at? Surely you're decent at art and got there by practicing since you were a teen, right? Any saved pics of games you designed back in gamedev university while I'm asking about this?
>>566802743 Just looked her up. She's nothing special yet something is appealing about her, I can't tell why thoughbeit.
>Make game 3 years ago >40 copies sold >See how incremental games are popular >Take a week to retool that old game into an incremental, using the same assets and most of the code >do bare minimum marketing over the next month, release demo for 2 weeks, release game soon after >250 copies sold first day >1k copies sold after first week >Made myself $3500 after Gabe takes his cut >Estimate will reach at least $10k by the end of the year
Nice little sum while I still work on my main project that I've been working on for over a year now. Will be funny if that week long project ends up making more than my year long project.
>>566804257 Oh....maybe you should just focus on getting back on your feet before considering gamedev? It's kinda time consuming y'know and with your position in life you're probably going to be stuck working multiple part time jobs with odd hours. How did you even fund going to gamedev university anyways? And what happened along the way for you to end up like this? Sorry if I am asking a lot feel free to ignore.
>>566804324 its pretty much the only way to make money in amateur game dev just anime girls desu. if everyone here made just one simple anime girl slop game they'd at least make some money instead of working on whatever it is nonnies here are currently working on. meta is meta for a reason
>>566804321 Kek! I've considered in the past the idea of basically reskinning your game and selling it as a new. In your case retooling it and selling it as a whole new experience. This feels like one of those things where once you have enough games out there that you could just reskin/retool a previous game in a small amount of time and make a good ROI on it.
>>566804158 As a teen I never learned art besides basic Cinema 4D posing + render. I'm from a poor family so I never thought this would make me any money as a teen. In my early 20s I feel for the "follow your dreams" propaganda, dropped my supermarket job, and enrolled to a gamedev uni. I fell in love with programming so I never tried to improve my 3d (besides the classes I had to take). After that I made tons of shit prototypes that werent fun for more than 5 minutes, and that was my gamedev career.
>>566804428 I finished it, but couldn't get a job after, and my parents kicked me out. I don't think I can do multiple jobs and still focus on gamedev, though. The shelter is ok, just need to ensure nobody steals my notebook though.
>>566804785 however simple you think rpg maker games are to make with some plugins. i think black souls 2 took around 2 years to make. maybe 3 not sure.
>>566804781 definitely 3d, you can start practicing with primitive shapes and it'd still look good and once you're a pro at gamedev, crappy 3d art from an artlet is still 10x better than crappy 2d art from an artlet, just look around you, yk it's true
>>566804992 i keep seeing lots of chinese korean and jp indie devs pump out anime girl game after anime girl game and make money. just exploiting the meta non stop
i think the anime girl meta isn't going away tons of people keep buying them and enjoying them to the point of leaving good reviews. you could pump out the sloppiest f slop as long as a sexy anime girl it will sell something at least
>>566804816 Damn that's brutal. I went to college believing a degree would help me get a good job. Look at me now, in my 30's and unemployed. My best paying job didn't even pay $25 an hour and that was over 5 years after graduating :S >QTE Hero Oh yeah that game.
>>566804840 Mmm I still think you should work on getting somewhere more stable first before continuing with gamedev. It's an exhausting jobby imho. I've made so little progress today despite being unemployed. Not like I'm even trying to find a job, it's just so discouraging. I've considering going back to college for a CS degree should only take 2 years due to already having a degree but idk how true the job market for CS majors being bad is. Anyways good luck anon, hope things get better for you!
>>566805595 I work in tech and am trying to pick up gamedev as a hobby and it's horrid for CS right now, at least in Canada and US. Expect hell especially with 0 experience.
>>566802707 >Europe The EU, Canadian and Australian governments like to hand out money to these indies because even if they never make a profit just having a single success like E33 is seen as great for soft power and they can also push propaganda (remember Dustborn?) and it's also a form stimulus to prop up that sector.
Im going to say it. Being an artlet will kill your gamedev career. It takes nothing at all to learn coding, literally a year max unless you are a brainlet. Now AI can literally do most the code for you and none of the crazy popular indie games are doing stuff an amateur programmer couldn't cook up.
Go on itch and theres a million VNs and Indie horrors making money hand over fist just because the art is good.
>>566805751 Lol idk how I'm talking with 2 different guys at the same time.
>>566805806 Yeah I kinda figured, AI is good enough to handle entry level CS wagie stuff so I assume all that work that would've gone to an entry level programmer is now being handled by a mid level CS wagie whose plate of work increased. Damn I'm running out of ideas and considering just working at a grocery store indefinitely until I somehow get an escape rope from waging.
>>566805975 >Go on itch and theres a million VNs and Indie horrors making money hand over fist just because the art is good. Most of them are free and when they do make money it's barely anything, The ones on itch making the most are literally patreon porn games that are free to download an old version of.
>>566805252 >boomer shooter about killing demons and gods and a brother and sister fucking each other dirty at the end of the world >gay Sure thing, homobro
>>566805975 Yeah :/ AI can do simple code well enough. And a lot of simple games succeed nowadays. But for art, it is simply too inconsistent on the long term. I can cheat on coding by having AI do the thinking and then I just write the code however I please but with a general flow to follow. Just avoid code complex games and it's easy enough. I can't do the same with art, I have to actually learn that and it's not easy.
>>566806225 I cant give a proper answer since i've stopped and started a million times because at the time I thought "the code is more important", "I just need to be a solid programmer".
Its all bullshit. I know how to code. I'm as good as i'll ever be. I'm going to stop procrastinating now and go back to doing art everyday from now on.
>>566806875 you basically have to be a youtuber/'tokker to be successful as an itch dev. That's why you see all these hacks and women trying to start their game dev flavored channel so they can make shit but already have an audience to buy it because of parasocial retardation
I would say only just now are LLMs good enough to code actual games people want to play. Mark this in the history books, right now. They're finally getting me where I need to go. GPT 5.5 High via Codex CLI is my choice right now, it's better than Claude.
>>566807552 Also guys don't get memed into using DeepSeek v4 Pro Thinking. The benchmarks are a lie. It feels only 60% as smart as GPT 5.5 and is literally 10x slower.
I thought China would be destroying Western AIs by now but somehow they're not.
>>566806463 I can tell you, but you have to promise not to laugh:
The headlights on the car use a spotlight. In godot docs, they recommend using an attenuation value of 2.0 for "physically accurate" lights. This is a trap, don't do it on spotlights. It made the lights super dim so I extended the headlights ten times longer to compensate. (pls don't laugh) I undid this because it was ass on performance and looked like shit. It took me a bit of fiddling to get the same effect with much better performance.
Aside from that, I just disabled sun shadows at night lol. Together that's like 20 FPS.
I can gain more by splitting up my big forest gridmaps into smaller ones.
>>566807454 still fine, the bars just been raised a bit over the years, so you can't just make a 2010s pixel platformer and cross your fingers like ye olden times. But people very much still want good games.
>>566808410 moles. nobody ever put big fat moles on their animu before. what a revelation. and lucky that figure skater with moles was popular at the same time. rising tides.
>>566808575 you can post the girl or a scene and people will recognize them. The dev was very methodical with the girl especially. People (/v/) bitch about female protags, but it's a very easy cheat-code to sell a game if she's attractive/sexy and you do a little shilling.
>>566808410 male dev was tranny baiting his male audience calling them big boys/good boy every video on his youtube. zoomlets/millelinials are so starved for anything that they will go for it. genius marketing desu
>>566808410 just tranny bait your male audience. release anime girl. call your male audience big boy good boy. just act like an e whore. you'll sell your game. its the meta moving forward as incel rate of males between 18 to 28 approach 90%.
>>566808694 /v/ doesn't buy (or even play) games so their opinion doesn't matter Even if every game had a male protag they would then complain that it's all manly men, and if they weren't they would complain about how they're all fags.
>>566752880 A diablo like system, personally, is best for CRPGs. DOS2 inventory was so shit Let the player manage their inventories, not pick everything up
>>566808882 This doesn't really have to do with incel rates. Sex has been selling things since time immemorial, virgin or not Just having anything remotely sexy or provocative in a thumbnail/title will boost clicks If you're really in it for money you better study and learn some advertising
>>566809227 In highschool business class there was a project to make flyers and post them around the school. The best performing one was just the word SEX in big text followed by "now that I have your attention".
>>566805975 This is such artfag cope. The problem is artfags deny the existence of the asset store, which was the art equivalent to AI code that has existed for over a decade, and they pretend using premade assets is somehow immoral or will turn off gamers. >Buh muh soul Lmao Synty games make bank every week. Just use premade assets ffs.
>>566809498 would probably sell well. just add a covered in black engine grease/oil skin with no clothes with her privates covered by the black oil. then make a youtube video title it "Big boy covered me in black oil'
>>566809652 Yeah its never been easier to make games and not be an artist. Indie game communities are echo chambers filled with artists. Simulator games made using metahumans and quixel assets are almost always in the steam top sellers.
>>566809652 Synty still wont cure your lack of an art direction. Synty makes the most bank from devs who think buying a million packs without knowing how to use them will solve their art problem.
>>566809498 >initial d car >heavy rain paper cranes? honestly looks pretty kino if someone made this into a game. like that one indie anime racing game someones making but darker but of course you've got to make the entire game, there's the catch
>>566810030 Yep. You never see those guys circle jerking in places like this trying to get good boy points by showing that they worked really really hard on a tree someone will spend two seconds looking at, they just crank out games.
>>566810403 And to add to my own post the only people who care if you use asset packs - won't buy your game anyway - because the only people who care are other developers. Telling people not to use asset packs is the game dev equivalent of a woman telling another woman she should cut her hair short.
daily reminder that cuphead uses a shitty film grain store asset from one of those 100 camera effects packs and its not as hand made as the marketing says it is
Proggy. Got a lot of the audio implemented. Enemies still lack some sounds and I also want to add some for the transitions and the upgrade screen. Music is placeholder.
>>566752120 i can temper my expectations, i'm not wanting to be the next notch, but when i play my favorite games i can't help but think, "i want to make something cool like this, too." being a professional would be great, or even creating my own studio, but i recognize those as completely unrealistic. i'm not banking on changing careers or something. my biggest concerns is that i have zero dev skills or talents. i did make pong when i was in middle school but i obviously don't remember shit. i'd be starting a decade after everyone else, i don't know if it's worth it or not. but i do get the strong urge to create something. thank you for the reply by the way.
>>566814694 >i'd be starting a decade after everyone else what are you blabbering about gaylord make game or dont someone could have learned to program on a c64 and still made 0$ compared to some zoom zoom who slapped together something in rpgmaker having zero dev skills and talent didnt stop the devs of mixtape
>YOUR GAME MUST HAVE ACHIEVEMENTS AND TRADING CARDS OR ELSE I WILL COMPLAIN AND LEAVE NEGATIVE REVIEWS >YOUR GAME MUST BE CHEAPER THAN $10 OR ELSE I WILL COMPLAIN AND LEAVE NEGATIVE REVIEWS >YOUR GAME MUST ALWAYS BE ON SALE FOR 75% OFF OR MORE OR ELSE I WILL COMPLAIN AND LEAVE NEGATIVE REVIEWS >YOU SHOULD NEVER RAISE THE PRICE OF YOUR GAME TO ADJUST FOR INFLATION OR ELSE I WILL COMPLAIN AND LEAVE NEGATIVE REVIEWS >YOU SHOULD UPDATE AND ADD NEW CONTENT TO YOUR $5 GAME UNTIL THE END OF TIMES OR ELSE I WILL COMPLAIN AND LEAVE NEGATIVE REVIEWS >YOU SHOULD NOT MAKE YOUR GAME IN A GENRE THAT MAKES THE MOST MONEY, YOU SHOULD ONLY MAKE GAMES IN DEAD GENRES THAT MAKE NO MONEY Being an indie gamedev on Steam must be some kind of masochistic fetish. I don't know how else can you put up with all this woman-tier retardation and humilation rituals.
>>566815830 subhumanite gamercunts will complain that your free game doesn't have the production quality of a AAA game they'll always find SOMETHING to complain about
When I make the virus character I want the virus to beg for mercy if you start typing rm -rf the-virus-dir by watching the command line input, I also wanted him to be able to "behind a stick" type stuff on the text lines, I think maybe I can do it in images as well. So I been working on making image parallax effect to be able to pull that off. I just trying to think of ways to be creative/gimmicky in a text panel.
>>566746427 is this nortubelian artworks? hmm, kind of sounds like a scifi race from starwars or something >>566792936 I disagree. I think they need to keep gdscript, and remove c# support. Let unity be unity. no need to bring c# smell to godont. keep it gdscript + c++ like god intended. >>566794205 so add subliminal binaural beats to your games atmosphere soundtrack >>566796762 it maybe can, but you're (probably) going to have to write custom shaders. meanwhile I assume unity probably has an asset store thing that does it. >>566798209 hot >>566801621 yeah I think the yellow fogs good but I don't like it being yellow unless you're going for a bright+dry / desert type vibe, then it could work. If you also spawned some semi transparent billboards / cards over the ground that are just BW smoke swirls that you modulate/tint to the fog color, fade them out as you approach them, maybe make them move slowly over the ground, I think that would look even better >>566798745 probably either >>566798807 or SSRIs (those are pretty much suicide pills) certain doctors legit be trying to kill us off
>>566814694 I'm that anon Age is not an issue, time it's an issue. I personally started in my thirties during covid; I never coded before, and in all my past attempts I was an ideaguy in search of coders/artists and so on. I learned coding, some pixel shit, and years later people even say that my stuff is not that shitty. You can learn, you just need to temper your expectations on your timeline. There is a meme about releaseing a game in 6months, but if you can work on your game 1h per day, in those 6months you won't do much. That why time is a problem. Imo follow your creative drive, but be mindful and work on small stuff. The upside is that in dev your work is usually not wasted. Once you make a system of health that connects to an ui bar (you know, like a game), that system is done and you won't need to make it from scratch again. U might change it and polish it, but systems will be in your toolbox, and your next project will be faster
>>566816712 >12▶ then get off the thread and either work or sleep. sleep makes your brain go faster again when you're back awake. you dont have time to be waisting on 4chan damn
What kind of setting and lore etc would resonate enough with humanity right now to make them want to play a 2d topdown massively multiplayer open world sandbox complex systems game?
What follows is a useless progress-free partly gamedev-related blogpost. Read if you have nothing better to do. Yesterday I had a fruit platter and it utterly failed to improve my day. In fact it did the opposite, so today I'm going the opposite way. Still working on updates on one of my existing games. Probably 2-3 more days to go. I have an idea for a new small game which I think would be pretty neat. In the olden days when I was young and hopeful, I'd have had to fight the urge to projecthop. These days I know any great idea I think I have will, in the course of making a prototype, resolve to something between "this is a shit idea" and "I could make this fun with some effort". 138 days left. I owe 850 minutes of work.
>>566816729 You solve small problems and build muscle, so you can try to solve harder stuff in the future The uphill is when you start and you rely on tutorials and black magic
>>566819263 one of us doesn't understand what incremental means. probably me but if it's about picking bonuses every level then it's no more incremental than any RPG
>>566819672 Fuck right off with that disingenuous lie. If you don't know what incremental slop is, then google is sitting right there in your browser waiting to be utilized.
>>566819672 He's a dumbass who saw incremental games use the survivors-like formula of "pick a power up from 3" and thinks that's a feature that defines the incremental genre now.
>>566820254 Not any of these anons but I've never seen an idle or clicker game use pick 3. I think that other anon is just a retard who thinks Vampire Survivor-likes are incremental
>Also, the combination of an idle/clicker plus a roguelike seems interesting on paper, but what it essentially boils down to is just always re-rolling for the same upgrades every run since nothing else even comes close to the same level of efficiency.
I delistificated my game because nobody bought. Yet for some reason, the steamie keep wishlistificating my game. Who is this bastard bitch? Where they come from and what they wont?
>>566820679 vampire survivors has defintiely some incremental design behind it with all the powerups and shit, it's unlikely anyone beats the first level with antonio first try
>>566821185 Everything if fine, but you don't have a marketable character. Preferably underage anime tomboy who will react yo player's success or failure.
>>566821523 It was just like 5 lines that explain the intro story a bit, as I thought "clearly everything regarding the game is explained by just watching the trailer".
>>566822042 Nah, you will be a magic fishing gnome and you will like it.
>>566823379 >Nah, you will be a magic fishing gnome and you will like it. That's fine, but you can make a sidekick who will be checking on your progress and maybe ask for something as a challenge.
>>566823551 That could infuse some needed longevity. An NPC that goes like "catch 3 Caulifloaters in a row worth over 50 points total" (so you can't just quickly catch em all on the surface and have to go a bit deeper). Thanks for the idea! Onto my notepad it goes!
>>566827706 >steamjeet is too low iq to understand the implications of becoming a financial institution things must be going bad for valve if they have to start skimping out on your types.
>>566827593 Saw a video on youtube about a random schmuck making a lot of easy money with games, so I figured I could do it too. Seems easier than putting up with a boss and customer service.
>>566828121 same..i want a girl to think im some quirky artistic genius (and also super humble). i cant believe notch just became a chud. id be a gigachad if i were in his shoes and be less fat
>>566827593 I like to draw and see those drawing come alive under my influence without drawing 100000 frames. I used to want to be an animator, but my wrist didn't like that
>>566827593 it's a great jobby. creative freedom and unlimited potential. plus last time I went to donate blood the doctor doing the checkup said she envies my for my job so if she thinks my job is better than being paid 2-3x the average salary to take blood pressure readings of healthy people all day then who am I to argue?
>>566827593 I'm a failure in life, and my last resort is try to monetize my childhood hobby with a hope to "make it" and escape my wagecage. No, I didn't study anything remotely near coding or video games in school, I've learned from tube videos. Yes my first game has been in development for almost a decade, but I can't quit because as I said this is my last resort. No, I can't physically work on my game for more than 1h because I get sick. Most day I don't dev at all because I'm too depressed, but I say that everything is fine on discord. I'm sure that if I "make it" I'll become a better person and my life will magically turn around
>>566831349 You're thinking about it all wrong. You think nodev gamers are on the same moral level as the creator gods known as gamedevs? Hell naw. The jew are right about the goyim. Gamerpiggies only exist to be exploited by the chosen ones, and doing so isn't unscrupulous at all.
>devs shove item drops into their games and put them on sale for sub-dollar prices to move units >the thirdies purchasing those "games" are doing so to grind out item drops they can hopefully resell for a profit >the only reliable way to cash out their revenue is to purchase hardware and immediately resell at a discount >Valve gets a cut at every purchase point and trade taking upwards of 50% of everything the devs make and thirdies grind
>>566833289 >devs are happy because they sell their game >thirdies are happy because they sell their items >hardware buyers are happy because they get hardware at a discount >Valve is happy because they make money So what's the problem here?
>>566833730 devs could get a bit more from valve. would help foster the scene, both indies and publishers because publishers can percentagerape more (though i dont know if a publish heavy scene would help independents)
>>566707313 >tfw Todd cant gamedev >tfw Todd posts in agdg >tfw his game is one of the most ngmi looking games in aggy daggy Lol >100k reviews just because Todd made it YAMEROOOOOO
>>566833730 >devs are unhappy because they're using their hardearned skills to do petty degenerate scamming to keep from falling into complete poverty >thirdies are unhappy because grinded for years with their 3 hours of daily electricity to get USD for their family only for a bunch of fat Americans to take half of everything they earned >hardware buyers are unhappy because they got hustled by thirdie shills into buying garbage devices that were built just to prop up a scam industry >Valve is happy because they make money hey as long as G Fatty is happy amirite
>>566809287 What do I lack!!!!! One look and it is clearly a gmi game. The game looks like a proper game while mine just feels like it lacks that "game look"
>>566834826 action roguelike is vague. 2d? 3d? side scrolling? topdown? camera? smart enemies or mindless hordes? rpg is vague. as above. too many variables to give you a meaningful answer.
>>566835560 i'm happy i wear skirts and stuff lala la and its fun :3 and i get to drink coffee and smoke cigerettes hehe and it's cool being me and then on the side i am making a video game
>>566835367 for your roguelike, how do you plan to implement levels? procgen? that's a rabbit hole. an rpg like zelda is simpler, but without the replayability of a roguelike, you are looking at a very long development to get even 1 hour of playtime
>>566836165 >for your roguelike, how do you plan to implement levels? procgen? no, premade rooms but they are randomly selected
im asking because we want to make 2 games. we decided to do the roguelike first, since it seems simpler. also i want to have an estimation of how complex it is going to be
>>566835667 rotate do you have an income? i dont know how to be happy when currently i am unemployed. my self worth is too attached to what society thinks of me
my gaem will be really good and then when people ask me my secret to success ill say it was hanging out with crabs in /vg/ even though that didnt help very much at all
>>566836469 well i'm on disability for schizophrenia and i even have a nice appartment. i know what you mean about the self worth part though. right now i'm feeling like i wanna be a pretty girl more than a programmer which is getting in the way of dev.
>>566827706 >>566829340 before regulatory bodies enforced consumer protections and market stability rules on banks it was a free for all where people were constantly losing their savings to bank crashes when they would inevitably try to abuse the infinite money glitch they had access to and end up breaking the money market over and over again.
and recently when cryptobros leveraged anti-government sentiment to convince people to return to the free for all through a "digital monetary system" the result was you didn't even get to use it as money before they took your lifesavings in rugpulls.
if anything you should be begging for a new shadowy jewish cabal to bring back long con usury that used to let you buy a home.
>>566836715 >well i'm on disability for schizophrenia and i even have a nice appartment. I have schizophrenia and they've told me I'm healthy. No apartment for me
I wish I had $500k >but why anon I can finally >move out and rent >gamedev full time >invest money without easily getting fomo cause I'm not wealthy enough >contract an artist without feeling like it's a huge financial risk if it ends up going poorly That's it, $500k is my escape ticket from the wagecage. So basically my game needs to get me over 1500 reviews to achieve this life.
>>566835367 >basic zelda like but 2d is what i imagine As someone making something basic and Zelda like, I can say it's not too complicated. It'll still take you a while though.
people in the future will be more intelligent, more skilled and more poor. unless they inherited or had connections. i wonder what this does long-term. if people will completely give up on learning anything, because what they really need is money and not knowledge stat points.
