>>111787533 Very strange timeline of events and behavior. Fuwawa's month-long absence, then Mococo's gone, Mama Puppy, Fuwawa out again... I doubt we'll ever know the full story
>>111788893 They're defintely debuting both groups for good PR and at the end of the day it'll just be a way of having 3 member gens without people accusing them of downscaling.
>>111788962 you were wrong, bitch. they were with me, their new husband. send your welcome back suppas to fund our next vacation and buy the mist because you ruffians smell like shit.
>>111789073 facts nigga. ruffians smell putrid. that's why the concert tickets aren't selling out. no one wants to risk the possibility of being next to one of those nasty ass fuckers.
>>111789310 Looking at even Gigi's numbers just shows they're greatly overestimating the appeal of generic keychains. Unless they never expected it to sell out and intend to keep this stocked in all of their shops in Japan, that would make more sense.
ruffcucks are enabling FUWAMOCO as they slide down to Gura levels of if inactivity
Hihi FUWAMOCO Happy to hear that you are able to go on some beautiful walks Glad to hear you had an amazing mothersday with mama puppy! Don't worry, we ruffians will be waiting patiently till you all feel fluffy and fuzzy! Headpats FWMC BIG LOVE BAU BAU
>>111789814 >you're the best ever! >for giving me twitter likes I guess being honest is a good thing but it's still disturbing to see how open people are with the fact that they only care about getting attention.
>>111789871 He never does, he just vagueposts about them being the best when they do and goes schizo and retweets his own crap when he gets skipped in sprees.
>they spent the last two weeks on vacation with their mom >saars and ruffkeks spent every day online waiting to see if FUWAMOCO would stream KEK they don't miss you at all, loser
>caring about likes Their manager is running the account and likes the first few replies before their shift ends, only youtube likes after a stream matter you no-life losers. Fuwamoco don't think about us anymore.
>>111789978 View count is pretty telling. If he had blue checkmark it would mean nothing, if he replied immediately it would mean nothing, if he had tons of likes it would mean nothing. He replied late, has 3 likes and more views on his reply than most people who replied before him without a blue checkmark. That plus the vagueposting and the consistent schizo retweets when he gets skipped make it very clear. Purityschizoschizo lost, they never muted anyone, they keep feeding their stalkers.
>>111790108 NTA but you don't have to buy it just lie and say you did. Wasting over a hundred in fucking perfume slop is braindead. They'll still give you a like which is why you were buying it anyways. Ruffians waste too much money on shit no one needs which just makes them focus more on merch than streams. Buying crap like this is actively contributing to the downfall of the idol and streaming side of hololive.
>>111790128 >raffians, it's happening like this because it just happened to be this way today, okay? I can rape too, you know, I rape Fuwawa all the time too, un un
>>111790136 I've been skipped when I actually bought shit many times before. They'd rather give likes and replies to some random fag crying about the price.
>>111790172 Is it though? You can get the same fake vtuber stuff for $20 at a convention. At least the keyboard is usable and numbered. This is just another cash grab to prove that male gachikoi will buy things that they will never use in a million years.
>>111790313 The baucord raocord jerk ordered a hit and got all his socials hacked and his discord server deleted. Same jackass that lied about the birthday book project for FUWAMOCO and never sent it to them.
>>111790355 Yes. But he switched to leeching Raora because she is retarded and gives him attention like Fuwawa used to. Proves what he's in this for if he switches oshis that easily, kek.
>>111790384 Not some con, all for one. They all agreed to do an EN wide one and he agreed too but then went behind their back last minute to have a raora one too. Which is why she's the only one that had a separate one. He's doing the same for serendipity.
>>111790423 He made all the 'competitors' delete their Raora discords at her debut because he used his influence being in the holocord owner mafia. There was a newer one made by chattini who actually watched her that was gaining steam but it got deleted yesterday because it got hacked. Purely coincidentally surely and not because their discord got attention from raora on stream yesterday.
You've got a friend in me You've got a friend in me You've got troubles, I've got 'em too There isn't anything I wouldn't do for you We stick together, we can see it through 'Cause you've got a friend in me Yeah, you've got a friend in me
Some other folks might be a little bit smarter than I am Bigger and stronger too, maybe But none of them will ever love you the way I do It's me and you, raffian
>>111790890 Just accept that they don't want to do it. They clearly have had access and time to do it but didn't. They couldn't even take the five minutes to do a doggy pack wallpaper post. Even a lazy cunt like Nerissa has been consistent on doing that at the start of each month as promised.
>>111791068 She got home 3 months ago anon. And you're telling me that Mococo is unable to post a wallpaper post? She was literally streaming. Hell, even Fuwawa was working from the hospital.
>>111791153 I meant weeks sorry I'm retarded. She tweeted about being out on 22 April. And streamed multiple times after that yet did not even mention asmr or the wallpaper.
>>111791347 I think that is what some might question. I mean I hope they aren't lying but I wouldn't say I feel 100% sure about us being told the full truth here at this point. For me it's mostly the story of Mococo being that sick for this long. That just seems unlikely.
>>111791394 If they still stay vague during their return stream, then my trust in them will dwindle even more, because part of what they pride themselves on is being true to themselves.
>>111791347 Too sick and busy but also still going for walks and relaxing by their own words? They can do all that but can't even give us a promised monthly wallpaper? All they can do is 'come back' shill the perfume then tell us they'll be gone a while longer. It's beyond fucking shameless and even they realize it.
>>111791718 No but I think they're on vacation and didn't want to say that cause they feared some people might take that the wrong way and get the impression they don't want to stream for us despite just coming back to "full form". So they went with the Mococo sick thing.
It feels like they're always apologizing for having to take a break, then saying they're getting better, Ruffians say they're glad they're feeling better, they say they're back, and then the cycle repeats all over again.
>>111792332 Since pulling this stunt they've proceeded to grow even more distant and do even less for us. If you want little to support you then you have to give them something to support.
>>111792745 I really hope they're not in it, both for their sake and ours but it seems like it. Cecilia's already gone back so Skibidi recording must be done.
>>111792781 Me too but unfortunately I think all signs point to them being in it. I'm even more certain now that they're taking this extended vacation now before the barrage of en reco to Serendipity to anniversary to world tour spam.
>>111793122 Matsuri was never part of the Hololive I loved. Fucking menhera whore. The fact that she's still here after ZA HANDO is testament to how much nobody gives a fuck, if it were literally any other Holo, they'd be shouted down to retire.
I wish they cared about us half as much as Biboo does pebbles. We'd never get anything like this from the modern fuwamoco even though they talk like we are their everything. https://x.com/i/status/2054202116777124032
Fuwawa 3:16 "For Fuwawa so loved the wuffians that she displayed her floofies, that whosoever looketh upon them should not perish, but have everlasting life"
>>111793870 Yes but they've never given us special recordings like this. And very rarely do they post memes or goofy updates. They love to tell us about how they have all these secret recordings but unlike Biboo they only gaslight instead of just posting it like she does. Everything has to go through a hundred hoops of mystery with FWMC it never feels like they're open anymore.
>>111793836 You're right they tell us about old perverts on the train groping them and sitting on their laps and them doing nothing about it. Much better.
Oh well. My explanation is that for the moment they want to show Mama Puppy so many things around Japan cause it's presumably her first time there and there's countless things they want to share with her.
>>111794167 Why not just say that instead of coming up with some elaborate scheme to cover it up with a 3 week sudden fever? All their senpai announce month breaks regularly and they leave it at that.
>>111794211 Because they don't want happy tears or a paypig to stalk akihabara looking for them? Their ears and tails already stand out and with their mom it would be worse. You can't blame them given how obsessive and creepy ruffians can be.
>>111794194 By her own story she used it and got scolded by the nurse in her room. It's a hospital setting, with a professional, and she wasn't as revealed as being bottomless. Also no men involved. Enjoy your cuck content, numbernigger.
>>111794362 But you do know for Biboo, she made sure to tell you. Did that make you happy? Did you self insert as the delivery man looking at her butt?
>>111794738 No one is going to LA, we've had many food concerts already and it's smarter to save for a Japan trip next year. A serendipity trip would literally cost me more than fes.
>>111794994 NTA but I can go, I'm just choosing not to. FUWAMOCO have been taking my support for granted lately, and the support of all Ruffians. Their words don't match their actions. We're about to go another month without a member's stream, let alone the monthly ASMR that they've long forgotten.
This doesn't make me an anti, I just enjoy FUWAMOCO more casually now, and I think that has happened or is happening to a lot of their previously hardcore fans. Hololive and Vtubing is supposed to be enjoyable, and the percentage of fans who actually buy merch and go to events is super low. Most people just see them as free entertainment. If you want money and support beyond that, you have to maintain your core fanbase with streams and other stuff and FUWAMOCO have been neglecting that for over a year now.
I still want them to do well and I hope for the best, but I'm just not willing to fork over money to go see a prerecorded show in LA when I know it's cost me months of streams that I would have otherwise enjoyed and endeared them to me.
>>111794994 Because would I rather do another week in Japan or 3 days in the biggest shit hole in the US? The stream will be a better experience this year, I guarantee it. there's barely any opportunity for outside of the concert events and meetups too because it's all booked and overly expensive or inaccessible due to the terrible city design and holiday weekend.
>>111795147 No one who enjoys them casually is writing paragraphs on 4chan about them when they're in the middle of a 3 week long absence, they're living their lives. Stop trying to fool yourself, you're still obsessed.
>>111795244 It's money it's time and my happiness I'd be spending going to that shithole. Maybe when you grow up a bit and aren't living off Daddy's money you'll get it too.
>>111795327 A flight to LA with the current fuel prices is $400 from the east coast. My flights to Japan are typically 7-800. The hotel and food prices are incomparable. LA right now is $400 or more a night unless you want to commute an hour every day to and from the venue.
>>111795391 So the flight to Japan is more expensive but the lodging in LA makes the total cost more expensive in the end? What is the cost of lodging in Japan?
>>111795430 And it isn't even close. Japan per night is probably under $100 I'd you're by yourself including food. In LA especially this weekend you're spending at least 400 a night. So you probably see how a normal person would rather have 4 nights in Japan instead of one night in a miserable excuse for a city.
>>111795650 If you're buying Legos as an adult that cost that much you already have enough Legos to build that set without buying the set. Just look up the instructions online.
>>111795775 Jesus the FUWAMOCO and Nerissa drop offs are really something. We've also lost total streaming hours, each year they stream 100 hours less.
>>111795775 >less streams after they are able to do actual idol work and dance practice Wow you're so smart for noticing this. You must be the first ever.
>>111795775 Still a bunch imo thinking about averages. The problem with FWMC isn't average amount, it's consistency. 42% days streamed every single week is more than enough to most people. The problem is that we keep going back and forth between 80-100% and 0-20% Shiori's 53 isn't that much more, but it feels like much more because it's always 53.
>>111795775 To be honest this metric is very misleading for FUWAMOCO. They used to have 3 days a week where all they did was a 25 minute morning show. It counts, but barely.
>>111795869 It's a pretty shit metric to really make any conclusions from really, I hate numberfagging but there's a reason why hours streamed is something that is tracked and not percentage of days streamed
>>111795869 I'd rather seem them 20 minutes a day three times a week than not at all for 3 weeks followed by 40 hours of streams during a random work week. Consistency is important which is why I like this over total hours. FUWAMOCO are good at gaming metrics to make it look like they're doing fine but when you experience it as a fan it feels like shit.
>>111796044 >I'd rather seem them 20 minutes a day three times a week This but unironically, a GiantBomb style endurance run for FUWAMOCO would be the greatest kino ever. Give me Deadly Premonition.
>>111797142 If I remember correctly, HLZNTL (Holizontal) was a tournament where the Hololive girls were supposed to compete against the Homostars. But it failed miserably, and both the EN and JP fanbases came together to show their frustration with the project. For example, IRyS was going to be part of it, and she had to calm her fans down by saying there wouldn’t be any interaction between her and the Holostars.
>>111797761 Possibly the most out of touch project yet. I wouldn't want to watch a holo girls only Overwatch 2 competitive event, let alone this. Who gives a shit about esports shit in Hololive? Those are always the worst arcs when a chuuba gets addicted to esports shittery. They're never even good at it.
>>111797810 Cover made the male branch to compete with Niji, and HLZNTL was obviously an attempt to compete with VSPO. Honestly, it feels like Cover doesn’t even understand why people watch Hololive.
>>111797810 Back at the peak of the Overwatch league, all the investors thought e-sports was going to be the next big thing. This leached into vtubing with them trying to breach into the e-sports sphere. Unfortunately for them, by the time Overwatch 2 came around, e-sports was tanking and getting into it wouldn't mean much.
>>111797810 >Those are always the worst arcs when a chuuba gets addicted to esports shittery. They're never even good at it. Apex torpedoed the fanbases of Aqua and Matsuri. >>111797928 They don't and they never have. Everything Cover has ever done has been copying others to varying degrees of success. Even EN Homos were a knee jerk reaction to Niji. Hololive survives on the talents of the girls alone.
>>111797928 >Honestly, it feels like Cover doesn’t even understand why people watch Hololive. I've had the same thought, and I think there are a lot of talents that don't understand why either. I think Yagoo had the right idea in the beginning, but the rest of management clearly has no clue and that's how you get retarded ideas like managers thinking they'd make IRyS and Nene more popular by pushing them into HLZNTL against the homos.
Hello ruffians! Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey! Day 1008: Today I've just done my anki reps, I've learned 5 new cards. FUWAMOCO love! BAU BAU!
>>111798874 Someone should have told Nerissa that last year. FUWAMOCO already are barely streaming this year without it happening, I would bet anything they will stream even less in the second half. I'd love to be wrong though.
>>111798987 >>111799173 To be fair this is not unique to Hololive. Every brand that goes big and gets success loses track of what made them popular, if they even knew in the first place. See Star Wars, Marvel, Disney in general with all their live action slop.
>>111799235 This chink cope comic was the funniest thing to come out of that whole ordeal and like the one ray of light for me. If anyone ever doubts how deranged antis are, show them this.
>>111799268 >Every brand that goes big and gets success loses track of what made them popular, if they even knew in the first place. See Star Wars, Marvel, Disney in general with all their live action slop. Yeah but in those situations it's a problem with new leadership coming in and changing things from the top
>>111798915 >>111799598 Reminder that YAGOO is the one who pushed for the Homos, they were his pet project, and he's the only reason they've lived this long. He hid them on financial reports for years, so let's not pretend like he only has good ideas or that it's "new leadership" that did it.
>>111799598 When you go public your company will inevitably lose it's identity. That's essentially a fundamental law of the world. The original owners are cashing in and even if they stay and try to maintain the status quo from before either they lose to a hostile shareholders /board or they get greedy themselves and think that because they had this last success it means every bullshit idea they have is always right. Very very few exceptions to that and even less in an industry like tech where every leader is obsessed with the smell of their own farts. No one pushes back because they think they can manage to steal away some of the money and hype and cash out without having to deal with whatever is left. Cover is just a tech company no one buying in now cares about the IP.
>>111799663 >so let's not pretend like he only has good ideas or that it's "new leadership" that did it. he wasn't the fujo running the holoEN twitter account and pushing homoEN shit while neglecting holoEN
Good morning, #FUWAMOCO I hope a peaceful night's rest brings you the clearest blue sky today, to welcome its two most beautiful sunbeams I love you both, and I'll be right here doing my best alongside you, with those cute paws held close to my heart
>>111799591 Le nefarious Coco is pretty funny in hindsight too. I must wonder if they thought she'd start streaming on BiliBili after she graduated due to management issues only to be disappointed when she continued to stream on Youtube.
