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Sex should be normalized in seinen romcoms.
I’m not saying it has to be explicit, but as an adult nearing 30 it’s hard to go back to reading a romcom for adults (in theory) where nothing happens for 200 chapters, only for the manga to end with a hand-holding scene. You're lucky if there's even a kiss.
I’m just as much of a purityfag as the next guy. I’m not saying that female leads now have to be used goods, or that the protagonists should just be sleeping around with other people. It's just that sex is a normal part of a healthy and wholesome relationship. It can even serve as character development and in the worst-case scenario, it's at least sexier than the protagonist falling over the girl's breasts for the 256th time.
That's the one thing the second half of Kaguya-sama did right. I think Tokyo Ghoul is the perfect example without being a romcom.
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But anon, seinen romcoms do have sex all the time. Or they used to, at least, it's been a while since last I read through one, but my sister had lots of them and there was sex at least twice per volume.
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>>287475327
yes, seinen romcoms should include virgin wedding day sex and more sex thereafter
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So why don't you read those instead, waiting for someone to spoonfeed ya?
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>>287475716
>"What do you like besides Gundam?"
>He can't think of an actual answer
Japanese dating in a nutshell
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>>287475327
I do not consent. If I can't have sex, then the characters shouldn't have it either.
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sexy sex as opposed to just hot objectification is like if a cooking manga could somehow have the smell of the cooking food projected into your brain
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>>287475327
Sex should be normalized in your life
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>>287475545
Those where likely not seinen by shoujo or josei.
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>>287475716
>>287475772
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
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>>287475327
>forceful chad male and shy self-insert female
This manga was published in the wrong magazine, it was clearly made for women.
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>>287475327
romcoms as a genre are about the will-they-wont-they, that's their entire point
if you want sex you can simply read normal romance
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>complains about state of manga
>posts image of translation
Every fucking time.
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>>287475327
Agreed, but it's always a matter of balance. Sweat and Soap ended up overdoing it.
Yanch gal has a perfect balance so far for me. The MC is scared of intimacy for a number of pretty understandable reasons, but he's slowly getting there (hickeys is the current limit)
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>>287475716
This manga is too good for the degenerates on this board.
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>>287476741
>>287475716
Name?
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>>287475327
>sex sex sex
>everything should be about sex
>god i want to have sex so much i wonder what its like
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>>287478455
Read the filename
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>>287475327
if you're nearing 30 and are a man, you shouldn't be reading romcoms at all but focusing your attention on your loving wife. adult romcoms are for wives who miss their husband's tender touch and needs something to tide them over
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>>287475327
pic related is the most cute, sweet and wholesome manga about a couple I've ever read.
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I don't mind if there isn't sex but when it's for pathetic reasons like the dude shouts "wah!!" if he brushes up against a girl then I only hate it.

How much better it would be if manga didn't feature sex for a loser character and illustrated why through portraying his feeling social anxiety; like that rising feeling of panic when you're in a social situation beyond your capability to deal with and you feel it, and your anxiety, spiraling out of control. Much better than falling over backwards when she reaches her hand towards you or some other retarded shit.
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>>287476092
>will-they-wont-they
You mean when will sales drop enough that it ends so they will, since you so often know it's they won't until then. If you want some combination of two types saying go read the other instead is not a solution.
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>>287475716
>>287476741
This manga makes me sad and unfilfilled as that Gosling meme.
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>>287475716
>>287476741
>Finally got out on a date
>Ruin it all by fucking his ex
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>>287475327
>shoujo romance is full of sex, drama, cheating
>shounen romance is full of pure intentions, awkwardness, and self-reflection
There is something to be gleamed here.
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No. Fuck off slutfag
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>>287475716
>>287476741
Thanks for the tip
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>>287476298
No, Yanch gal is everything that's wrong with romcoms.
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>>287476741
“””””senien””””” manga that just focus on sex sex sex fuckbuddies sex sex cheating sex sex like this trash are way worse than shonen manga where everyone is asexual. They’re just thinly veiled unrealistic wish fulfillment hentai doujins
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>>287475716
Is this the one where they like each other but both of them are too pussy to say it, so they're in a sex friends relationship? I remember trying to read it but the artstyle was just too cutesy for sex friends so I couldn't get into it, it was just too mismatched
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I want a romcom with gratuitous nudity and the girls being competitively trashy. I hate how regular romcoms waste 200 chapters having the girls warm up to the guy enough to be naked around him and then end right when it was finally getting entertaining.
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why? if theres sex what motivates the male lead after that? manga just ends.
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>>287481111
Maintaining the relationship is part of the journey as well. It doesn't just end when he sticks his dick in her.
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>>287481111
Fatherhood
Love rivals
Job security
Career ambition
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>>287481213
Only women want to read a story where the relationship is still a question mark after they confessed and fucked. Either they stay together and its a gigantic waste of time or you appeal to NTRfaggots, its a lose-lose situation.
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>>287481111
Marriage
>>287481254
>love rivals
That's cringe and cucked
>>287481302
There's plenty to explore. Actually maintaining a healthy relationship is harder than getting into one.
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>>287481302
It's ok anon, you'll get it once you stop being a child
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>>287475327
Sounds illegal and immoral. They should really only have sex after they get married, and then mainly for reproduction because Japan needs a lot more Japanese babies and they should do their patriotic duty.
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>>287481768
Just because 4chan is dying, it doesn't mean we tolerate necromancy Mr. Abe. Go back now.
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>>287480366
truth nuke
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>>287475327
>I think Tokyo Ghoul is the perfect example without being a romcom.
Absolutely torpedod any point you were attempting to make
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>>287481815
Post a better non-explicit sex scene. I dare you.
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>>287475327
Unless it's actually plot relevant, what's the point? Realistically the only reason to include it is to create drama, otherwise you're wasting panel space on something that doesn't have anything to do with the story.
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This is why I read seinen yuri.
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>>287475327
I need to reread this manga. I forgot how unbelievably sexy this sweaty, timid jimiko was.
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>>287475327
Are you not tired? There's already coom coom coom everywhere you look.
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>>287482519
Jimikos do be like that.
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>>287475327
>That's the one thing the second half of Kaguya-sama did right.
Fuck no, this only further weakened the already weak arranged marriage plotline, and made the already insufferable and plot-armored MCs even more insufferable and plot-armored.
In the end, /a/ was proven right about mocking that shit.
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>>287482619
Make sure you get your T levels checked next time you're at the doctors, you'd be surprised how many negative things in your life have been affected by a hormonal imbalance
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>>287482519
If she is supposed to represent an "everywoman," then why did they make her so sexy?
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>>287484186
>huge tits
>form-fitting sweater
>tank top
>drenched in sweat
Not sure if I should nut on her now or after I've ripped her clothes off
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>>287475327
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>>287476741
Holy shit man. Though, it is interesting to actually see a work portray a teen relation as nonstop rabbit level fucking.
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I can finally post something!
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>>287476298
>>287480206
Look at the love comedy lineup in YK. Anjo isn't representative at all.
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>>287475327
Why would Loid do this?
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>>287475327
If you mean explicit shit, it won't be. People don't usually want to actually fap to manga.
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>>287489298
>People don't usually want to actually fap to manga
Skill issue
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>>287475327
>but as an adult nearing 30 it’s hard to go back to reading a romcom for adults (in theory)
Go read a book or watch a movie, instead of trying to find fulfillment in a medium that's aimed at 20-year-olds and younger, even when branded as 'seinen'. Also, the fact that you think 'sex' is a sign of maturity just goes to show how immature you really are, despite your age.
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>>287491168
No, I like manga.
>a medium that's aimed at 20-year-olds
But 20-year-olds are having sex, you're just an exception.
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>>287475327
There's either a lack of understanding or a lack of interest in eroticism when it comes to male targeted manga.
Romance is all about intimacy shared, and if they don't show that, how else am I supposed to take anything involving it seriously. And I don't necessarily mean benis in bagina. It's about the mutual want becoming physical. Both sides needing the other so much it shows in all they do, no matter if they consciously wanted that or not. A hand that grips too hard, a gaze that lingers too long. Even that holds tension
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>>287475327
Well, it's a nice coincidence that this thread is up. Yesterday I received a drawing that I commissioned from the mangaka herself.
https://files.catbox.moe/ip96e4.png
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>>287481766
I am literally married and have a child, with another on the way. Let me repeat: Nobody but women gives a fuck about a relationship after the confession, kiss, and sex. What is compelling about it? "Oh look they went on a date again" "oh hey theyre sitting around on a thursday night watching some shitty movie off netflix and giggling about it" "oh jeez, they got into a spat over something stupid, I wonder if theyll le break up???"

It is pointless. Again, they either stay together (waste of time for the reader) or they break up over dumb shit (even bigger waste of time for the reader that renders the entire work pointless). You THINK you want to see more afterwards, but you dont. It would get old extremely fast. There is a reason that shit like what you are describing only happens in shoujo and women's romance in general. You're describing the type of trtipe that happens in Grey's Anatomy.
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>>287492477
You're just jaded
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>>287492588
No, Im just right. If it was something men cared about, it would be a staple of romcoms. It isnt. At all. Because the only ones that care about it is women, because they love that relationship drama shit. Men dont. The meat of the work is the journey to confession and consummation. Then we want a happily ever after. Like maybe a few chapters of them being mushy would be nice, but anything outside of a few chapters of fluff gets stale because you have effectively removed all conflict. The only way to keep it going is to spark drama and and the stakes that they might not make it after all, which feels fucking shitty.

I dont want that. I want to see a couple happy. I want a montage of them going on dates, laughing, holding hands, wedding, then the wife being preggers or already having kids, or both. I dont want 60 chapters of mush. I dont want 60 chapters of melodrama and teasing that they totally might break up. And I certainly dont want to see them actually break up. I dont want Grey's fucking Anatomy. Have the happy ending and move on.
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>>287475327
Im 35 and married. I dont have this problem. I miss when ecchi wasnt just porn. Call me a prude, but nip works shouldnt devolve into the degeneracy that plagues the west. Let it be its own thing. You have doujins for an outlet... well at least you used to, because the doujin industry got taken over by gachashit. But yea, it doesnt bother me
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>>287492778
We can agree about the drama part at least. But you can definitely have a story post-sex without any will-they-won't they or shitty melodrama. Did you read any of the manga posted itt?
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>>287492778
It's not a staple of japanese romcoms, perhaps. But much of the appeal of slice of life series is watching couples going steady in their lives, and you had and have loads of western tv series based around married couples (bewitched, addams family, flintsones, jetsons, simpsons, etc.). But all those series rely on a static baseline that isn't allowed to change over time, to allow viewers to pick up any episode they want.

The real problem is that a series folowing a couple from the time they met to the time they have raise their children requires a scope far beyond what most viewers are willing to follow, and the few sucessful examples i can think off (dragonball, yozakura family, elusive samurai) put the romance aspect in the background in favour of action, or they compress the romance into a montage like in the first few minutes of UP.
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>>287493172
>and you had and have loads of western tv series based around married couples (bewitched, addams family, flintsones, jetsons, simpsons, etc.).
NTA but the difference there was that they were couples at onset. It was just SoL sitcom.
>The real problem is that a series folowing a couple from the time they met to the time they have raise their children requires a scope far beyond what most viewers are willing to follow, and the few sucessful examples i can think off (dragonball, yozakura family, elusive samurai) put the romance aspect in the background in favour of action
Yes, its exactly that. It doesnt work as the primary focus when the primary motivator at the start is a "why the wont they". You basically have to write something completely different the moment they hook up.
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>>287487283
Sauce?
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>>287476741
I wish I experienced this...
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>>287475327
>It's just that sex is a normal part of a healthy and wholesome relationship
Most seinen romcoms ends when they get to that point.
The whole point of most of them is that they are obviously made for each other, but hilarity ensues.
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>>287492843
Agree but what's degenerate about the two main characters having sex by the end of the series?
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>>287491973
Neat!
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>>287495310
Chikasugiru Futari, started this year.
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>>287497938
Girl is too much of an airhead but it was a very cute read.
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>>287475327
There are so many jokes and fun dramatic moments that occur during and around sex, of course they should be fucking in certain manga to get those stories across
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>>287492843
>sex between people that love each other is degenerate
I feel sorry for your wife.
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>>287476741
This page is an act of aggression upon me and my shriveled and defective soul
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>casual sex and sex before marriage is le good because… IT JUST IS OK?!?!?
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>>287499176
Just hop on VRChat and grab a big tittied anime fuck buddy (male).
I heard the Japanese ones actually stay silent instead of making constant AGP moans.
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>>287499286
>Needing another man's permission to fuck your wife
How cucked can you get?
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>>287499316
i'm also from a shithole country so i can't afford such escapism
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>>287476741
>that pic
picked up.
very few current serialisation can portray such raw eroticism.
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>>287492477
>I am literally married and have a child, with another on the way. Let me repeat: Nobody but women gives a fuck about a relationship after the confession, kiss, and sex.
You just have shit taste. Also popularity is a bad judge, I don't care about nekketsu.
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>>287480366
do they still make those, feels like I haven't read one in ten years
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>>287475327
Im on the entirely opposite pole. Romance should be about romance. Sex is the epitome of love so it shouldn't be casually thrown away. That's dog romance
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>>287476741
>fluids allover the place
Imagine the smell
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>>287491973
No shit?
Big props.
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>>287479314
Teenagers deal with alienation, depression, a sense of not belonging....but it feels like in Manga you always need to have the guy fixed by a girl instead of asking for professional help, or they have a super exaggerated 1 in a million bullying case
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>>287480366
This.
I actually dropped several romcoms because once sex happened it simply had nothing to offer.
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>>287491973
oh shit,thanks, how much? And when is she doing something new?
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>>287495885
irl you fuck like once, MAYBE twice then you are more interested in food or a nap.
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>>287501137
Depends on the setup. As long as you don't have any active responsibilities and no reason to leave the house and both of you actually enjoy having sex then you can just fuck the whole day.
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>>287500958
23.000 yens, she has a skeb with open commissions. Anyone can request a drawing, she just take her sweet time.
>And when is she doing something new?
How am I supposed to know?
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>>287475327
stinky
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>>287500419
>instead of asking for professional help
do you think this is uncommon?
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>>287499176
why did asper kanojo grow a goatee

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