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Leaving the thread premade so dump anon can upload it
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>>287477996
i don't think it's just the girl. it's an engrained helplessness. he doesn't have much control over his life. the girl and the mountain are the same. things he can't claim at all, and he's got nothing else
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Dumpanon here, I’ve been trying for like 20 mins to get my posts to go through but I keep getting connection errors. Apparently it’s been happening to quite a few people. If anyone wants to take over dumping, feel free to do so.
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>this cunt...
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>>287479773
If that other anon was right and his crush on her was like how he saw the mountain (ie "it's mine, it was promised to be because I've been with it for so long"), then I can see why it turned so sour. His love (like most teenage boys) was always shallow
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>>287479773
I won't be surprised if he ends lashing out and Momiji answers back by confessing.
Then he goes back to simping and she goes back to hating him.
Then story compares them to that cursed couple that ended bc the man killed her.
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>『少年のアビス』の峰浪りょうが描く、或る山に渦巻く愛憎の物語。
the manga is marketed as a "love and hate" story
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>Hating Momoji
His parents did nothing wrong!
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>>287480110
Minami compensate for all of that hate.
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>>287477996
It’s not just the lack of returning feelings, it’s the constant disrespect she shows to him, herself, and his mountain. Momiji a shit and a slut. She doesn’t deserve the mountain and all its haunting beauty.
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>>287481390
In this very volume. Mayu will get involved into Mikoma's shit and this eill trigger Momiji's even darkest self, she'll experience jealousy of a mere innkeeper (although Mikoma may end up pissing Momiji on purpose, as he picked on her slutty behavior).
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Selling a whole ass mountain for under 2k USD might be the most unrealistic thing Ryo has ever written. I was calling MC an incelchud before, but he had every right to smack the shit out of his dad for that nonsense.
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This site is so bugged today kek
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>>287479322
I don't care about the cunt, I care about the mountain.
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I hope so
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>>287481779
Gonna guess it's made as dark comedy moment so we can laugh at Mikoma's horrible luck, as well as to let us know the mountain is cursed and Mikoma's dad tried to sell it in a more expensive amount.
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Let me know if Page 6 is visible for you guys. For some reason when I uploaded it, it didn't appear on the main site; only on the archive. It's finally showed up on my end, but I'm not sure about everyone else.
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They likely don’t need the money. If mountain boy’s mountain lust is going to become a problem for his safety or whether they are going to move the parents don’t really need the mountain dragging them down as dead weight and they could just sell it fast to get the responsibility off them.
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>>287483820
>reiji was poor as shit but at least he got pussies
Only after Nagi appeared, before that, he was mom and Gen's gofer and Chunko wasn't better with him because she looked at him in a condescending way.
Mikoma and Momiji's dynamic seems to be a more honest and no holds barred version of Chunko's silent disdain for Reiji.
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>>287483420
I see the site is back. We shall continue.
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>>287483420
It's decent so far. A part of me cant yet decide if she's really just a slightly intelligent and normal girl, or if she's just intelligent enough to seem innocuous but is actually manipulative. Read this page again and what's she actually done is
>Put MC at odds with his mom
>Made his pain out to be a good thing while pinning the blame on him and asking him to be better
>All this when she's been friends with him for ages and should know how much that mountain means to him
I could be reading too much but Boy's Abyss was the same. All these coincidental and seemingly logical/innocent interactions hiding a fuckton of manipulation behind it.
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>>287484090
fuck her RIGHT NOW
CLAIM HER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
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>>287484121
>nice and appreciative of MC's efforts
>kind
>responsible
>stacked
>tries her best
>has strong familial loyalty like MC
How long until she has to close the inn and is forced to leave town? She's too good. It can't last.
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>>287482350
Maaaan, are we witnessing the birth of japanese Elliot Rodger?? Akira was the closest to be a full incel and the most he did was telling his own oneitis he fucking hates her.
>>287482638
Kek. Miko and Mikoma are the same simpcelcvck.
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>>287484121
Roka's ex-bro-in-law and Mayu are a lot more empathetic to Mikoma than his fucking oneitis (i would add Roka too, but he's walking a very thin line and if he betrays Momiji, then his days are numbered). I won't be surprised if the reason Mayu came back from Tokyo was to keep Mikoma's fragile mental health in check and that's why she's enabling his mountain autism by telling him more stories.
>>287484136
Nah, What Mikoma needs right now is a hug and a shoulder he can cry his pent up misery before he ends snapping. He gets too much hate from Minami and Momiji, Roka can end up becoming a victim if he betrays Momiji and his parents dgaf about him.
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>>287484094
I think she's a narcissist. Not so much actively trying to manipulate people but loves soaking up attention and is unconcerned about the feelings of other people to the point of callousness. In my reading it never entered her head that saying this might piss him off or cause a rift at home because she doesn't really care how he feels in the first place.
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>>287483420
>it was like they were looking at walking garbage
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>>287484248
Mayu will be the one who ends pushing Momiji past her edge.
The passive aggressive disdain she has towards Mikoma will turn into open hatred if she sees him with another girl. She seems the type of stacy who needs a beta orbiter orbiting around her and Mayu looks a lot like the type of woman who can lead Mikoma apart from her domain.
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>>287484394
>Reiji had no reason to act like a giant baby
>DV caused by intentionally ill words from his mom to convince stepdad.
>Former best friend becoming a bully.
He had reasons. And Tokyo arc felt satisfactory because he finally called Gen's angry ass out and showed he can be openly whiny and spiteful.
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>>287484390
Everyone thinks MC is gonna become the town's school shooter. But his best bro may be a step ahead.
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But the other guy said he looked normal
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>>287484614
>has made up fantasies about an ideal version of her
>stalks her social media
>has nothing but thoughts about her and mountains
>even bends over backwards hands to the ground and feet in order to satisfy her even though she is not interested and belongs to another man
>puts on gloves so he doesn’t offend her by touching her bare thighs naked even though she never asked
I don’t know this manga seems pretty simp coded.
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he's getting sick of her woman moments >>287483420
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He already knew she was prickly yet he still chooses to like her. As soon as she gives him another overdue carrot ideally from the mountains he likes he will go right back to treating her like a princess as if his spite for her earlier never happened. This back and forth has likely been going on for years by this point.
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>>287487700
I was skeptic before, but I'm starting to believe that she has a grudge with him that has something to do with the mountain.
Still it can be all in his head, since even unrelated characters notice how much of a creep he is. >>287482388
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>>287484267
Thanks for the dump. I'm going to predict that Miko will run back to the Mountain hoping to warn the leaf mask guy, but he sees that he found the corpse of the woman. Then the ghost appears and possess Mikoma, altering his identity and personality. I say all this because I wish this story gets a supernatural theme, or at least make Mikoma so mentally ill that he truly starts believing that he's possessed by the ghost of that woman.
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This manga is not yet long enough to do any sort of predicting for what will comes about in the future so it's best to just sit back and enjoy the show... IS WHAT COWARDS SAY!
I predict the tomboy is going to end up being the extreme rebound for Momiji after her yearning for endless woman moments backfires and leaves her hated by all.
Meanwhile the towns dark secrets will engulf the plot and leafman and his murder cabin will actually become their base of operations as the situation in town becomes evermore dangerous.
Roka is actually eye deep in the conspiracy (there's a conspiracy) and knew it all from the start. He seems dead inside since he knows too much but can't do anything about it.
The conspiracy is the mountain actually used to be a secret body dump for organized crime, but after the former chairman went made screaming about ghosts it's been unused, but under loose watch. However buried there is the hidden treasure of chainman, blackmail on every politician and crime boss in Japan. With the sale of the mountain, the equilibrium is upset, only for the actual ghosts of the mountain to begin possessing people for a battle royal as each tries to bring about an end to unfinished business, which requires a lot of murder.
At least a few of the protags will die and come back as possessor spirits and either a girl ends up in Miko or Miko ends up in a girl, probably Momiji after she's torn apart by wild boars. To make matters more confusing the truth of the possessions is never made clear as to if it's mass hysteria combined with a release of hypnotic frequency generated by the mountain or if it's actually the dead returning and there will be contradictory evidence in both directions because the author will fumble the ambiguity. However they manage to save it and it is later revealed to be a complex interplay between true possession and delusional behavior.
Miko marries a ghost, Roka is foreveralone but that's fine, Momiji marries Makita.
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We both are looking forward to a similar story, I hope the author delivers. It'd be a shame if it's just about mentally ill woman making everyone around her miserable and then the end.
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>>287488990
And I predict that Makita will launch you, the reader, into the sun with an uppercut that bursts out of the page and into real life, where she will remain for the rest of the serialization, upsetting everyone who decided to set themselves up for disappointment speculating the wild endgame of a manga 3 chapters in.
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>>287483420
Man these two fucking hate her already
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I first discovered Ryo Minenami more than a decade ago with Himegoto - Juukyuusai no Seifuku (because I was looking for Himegoto and mistook Minenami's work with it). My first impression of her work is that she's like Oshimi Suzo, although not that batshit insane.
Hatsukoi Zombie was probably the most normal thing she made, right? I haven't finished Shounen no Abyss yet. Apparently it's kinda popular here? Anyway, I'll be following this series while finishing Shounen no Abyss.
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>>287489921
Wait this is the Boy's Abyss author? Well I'll be damned, I've been waiting for their latest work. Guess I'm in for another wild ride.Still sad that Nagi got the least development/characterization by the end out of the heroines since she was always my favorite.
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>>287488990
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>All of Ryo's women are batshit, especially the ones wo seem normal at first.
And the inverse too, those who are damned by society (tomboys, suicide enablers, non-entities) end up being the least evil ones or are the actual victims.
Trigger warning: she enjoys doing virgin-shaming a lot.
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>>287491591
You'll have to be more specific because I didn't get virgin-shaming from Himegoto.
Kaito was working through gender identity, Yoshiki discovering her sexuality, Mikako clinging onto her fleeting youth, and Yuki being a bumfuck.
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Besides, Shounen no Abyss virgin characters were the ones that stirred the pot the most, Yuri started Chunko's downfall, was both accomplice of Gen's murder-suicide attempt and Reiji's murder attempt and reignited Nagi's trauma, Chunko destroyed Esemori's life, destroyed Nagi's struggling career as an idol and pushed Reiji deeper into the abyss when she admitted she only wanted to die w/ Reiji to take back at Esemori (would add Yuuko, but her venom came from Akira rejecting her as a person simply because she was the town's cum toilet).
Although Abyss thing was more about "whores and damaged goods also are people have a heart"
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>Yoshiki
>Yuki
They're the same, and as far as the 1st chapters, Kaito did ashame her for both being a virgin and a reverse tranny. Iirc he called her an ugly and unfeminine foid who will never be a boy at the beginning (or something similar) and during the whole series he was pushing her away (and was only when Yoshiki, as Yuki, confessed she wanted the real Kaito, not the one who was larping as Mikako's clone that he could finally accept her).
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What did she actually do at this point except refuse his obvious move on her? She seems to be genuinely upset that her boyfriend isn't into her.
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>>287492434
See this shit from Mikoma's POV, despite of him bring also kind of an asshole, he thinks Momiji's being a total bitch to his situation (he was done dirty by his dad and is losing everything he had pride abput). It's not only that she refuses help, she literally has a disdain for his passion and is ok with a stranger stripping him away from it as long as he brings e-celebs.
The fact Roka's also getting pissed at her due to her callousness regarding Mikoma's situation is enough evidence.
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>>287492671
It's not just the rejection, it's that she seems to enjoy twisting the knife where it hurts the most: Mikoma's mountain.
Hatred isn't only expressed through straightforward expressions, but also by being passive-aggressive. Momiji's literally Control devil arc Makima, but with the callousness amped to eleven.
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>>287492200
My bad, I meant Shou being a bumfuck but he was sidelined pretty fast.
Still can't find any dialogue about virgin shaming. Kaito's first interactions with Yoshiki was that she was ugly because she was boyish and not like his feminine ideals in Mikako.
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>>287492689
>despite of him bring also kind of an asshole
kind of? He is upset because it didn't happen like in his imagination, when he "goes to the mountain" he is imagining she is hanging out with him. It's just him getting confronted with reality. She did nothing wrong here.
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Thanks for the dump!
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>>287492689
The scene I was refering to happens before she dropped the bomb about his mom and talked about e-celebs. He was "glowering" at her for not going to stalk the mask-guy with a chainsaw alone in the woods with her. Which was also the obvious ploy to make moves on her.
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That's why i put Mikoma's POV.
But it's not only about Momiji hurting his ego, it's also the disrespect she shows for his (not anymore) mountain. The comment about the e-celebs going to the cabin (basically justifying dad selling the mountain on a gaming pc prize) and the lack of consideration to the fact Mikoma was done dirty by his dad is what is pushing him past the edge.
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>since even unrelated characters notice how much of a creep he is.
Never trust a special needs bitch who's also herself a femsimp of Momiji. Momiji probably told Minami to roughen Mikoma a bit so he knows his place.
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>>287493228
His tulpa is nothing like her.
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The parents should have consulted with Mikoma given he was the most emotionally invested in it, but basically no one wants to deal with maintenance costs and property taxes of owning the land.
If they had talked it through, maybe Mikoma could have gotten a part time job at the Susono inn to keep the mountain and stop lusting after a girl who doesn't share his values.
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>Mikoma could have gotten a part time job at the Susono inn to keep the mountain and stop lusting after a girl who doesn't share his values.
Tbf it would've been for the best, it would also help Mayu to not having to burden herself alone with the inn.
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>>287494489
Too bad the seeds have been planted that Miko's going down the maladjusted sperg route.
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200 000 yen is crazy
i would be incredibly suspicious
let me guess, there's some buried bodies and conspiracy going on in that mountain. the dad learned about it from the grandfather and now wnats his hands off it.
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>>287495285
They fucking spell it out, they wanted it gone in a hurry, cheaper price means faster purchase, under the price that involves extra taxes means less paperwork and therefore it's also gone faster that way
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>>287477757
I saw this on the catalogue was confused why I couldn't look up this strange kanji or word but then I clicked on the Tweet and realized it's actually just being chuuni; no idea if that's on brand for the manga or not.
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The 'less paperwork' is what's important
You could rent a place short term, or you could buy somewhere cheap, and then sell, in order to make your money back. However, depending on how much rent would have been, and how long you live there, you could actually end up losing money by buying and selling once all the fees and legal shit is sorted
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>>287495539
>extra taxes are extra paperwork
>taking longer to sell the mountain
In Japan your tax deadline is a week after your yearly tax return deadline.
Transferring land deed takes max a day for the property lawyer.
Ryo should've researched more.
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There aren't enough buyers of dead weight undeveloped land in rural Japan. Old folks are dying out, young people move to the cities for jobs. The longer you're trying to sell for a high price, the longer you're still paying those property taxes.
Not saying they were right in selling that low because I don't know how large the lot is or how long the grandpa has been bedridden, but the parents wanted it gone as soon as possible.
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>>287495495
There are yearly taxes calculated from the value of the land and maintenance costs. You will also have to find a buyer if you want the full price. According to google at least you can buy a mountain for as little as 10,000 dollars. We are not talking fortunes here.
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Shouldn't he know all this about her already? I just wonder if this is something new.
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Have this feeling these threads will resurrect the /r9k/ vs /c/rystslcafe wars that happened in the abyss flashback namek arc.
Miko apologists vs Momiji cunnylickers is gonna be the Akira apologists vs Yuko customers war all again.
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>Miko is a shallow person
>Momiji is a shallow person
Both can be true. Roka even though he's probably a fag appears to be the best person in the trio at the moment.
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Calling it...
Momiji will "casually" see Mikoma coming back from the mountain laughing w/ Mayu and something will snap into her... from looking at him with disdsin, she'll shift into wanting his attention... even if that means having to turn Mayu against Mikoma.
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The MC doesn’t really want her. He wants the ideal version of her. He’s afraid of the off chance that the real one might actually be into him too and can’t stand the fact that she acts like a woman oblivious to his mountain needs.
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>0 anime adaptations
OWARI DA
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I tried to read Boy's Abyss because of this thread and wtf did I just read
Everyone keeps getting madder by each chapter, and each time I think THIS ONE won't crash out, they inevitably do.
I'm burned out and the childhood friend trio just got into Tokyo. Only the crazy teacher kept me reading this long.
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You’re burnt out because Reiji’s story is just him essentially being a toddler while everyone around tries to coddle him and end up eventually ruining themselves because they don’t want him to be with his stick of a girlfriend who does nothing all story except being a stick. It’s kind of interesting to see how many lives Reiji permanently ruined because he didn’t kill himself fast enough but it eventually starts to get old and repetitive when the solution was staring him right in the face this whole time.
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>Reiji’s story is just him essentially being a toddler while everyone around tries to coddle him and end up eventually ruining themselves because they don’t want him to be with his stick of a girlfriend who does nothing all story except being a stick. It’s kind of interesting to see how many lives Reiji permanently ruined because he didn’t kill himself fast enough but it eventually starts to get old and repetitive when the solution was staring him right in the face this whole time.
Funny because when Reiji decided to be an """adult""", he basically was gonna become a murderer and deliberately drag an adult to become an accomplice. Either he was becoming a psychopath like his mom or it was his loudest tantrum.
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And the stick of a womanchild was another toddler... but a literal toddler, a fucking 20yo woman who got stuck in her 10yo mindset lmao.
No wonder nips consider the main protag and heroine the weakest point of the whole manga, basically carried by a psychopath mom, a yandere teacher, an incel dying writer and a raging homosexual.
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>>287501981
I think you misunderstand me, anon
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>>287491017
Sensei not winning made me extremely sad. I need to read someone avenging her.
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Given how the story started, with Autumn leaves (Momiji) falling to cover up a corpse (looks like Mikoma) I can fairly say the story is going to end up with reenactment of whatever story of the woman buried at the mountain is. The names author chose are very deliberate, I don't know Japanese enough to put the basic story together, I'm sure it will be obvious in a few more chapters.