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Chapter 215: Substitution
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ah question answered
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YOU HAD IT ALL WRONG NOGI
KAZZY WON'T LET HIS NEW ADOPTED SON DOWN!
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>>287505031I was about to mention that but it's kind of a spoiler. Then again, it was clear it was just added on his list of crimes (read: STEALING techniques) to make him look horrible. Omega had a bad habit of that.
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I dunno how many Americans recognize that drink can, but the Japanese aluminum cans are a loooooooooooooooot stronger than any Pepsi product you've ever touched. Crushing a can is not gonna happen. He's strong.
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I HATE THE NIKO STYLE!
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>I guess I can't
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>lolcan
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Brass Balls Yamashita rules all.
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Kazzy, that very important story I just told you, that revealed how everything was planned and you're a hero and amazing and a savior to Japan and the world and we all love you and omigosh this is so hype is the reason you need to do what I tell you, because Kengan.
"No."
Oh, well then, in that case, I lied. That was all a lie.
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I fucking hate Sandro plots, they are so dumb.
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Kino page
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Nogi isn't wrong but the emotional investment is in Ohma
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>hinting at Waka's blind side even now as Ohma sizes him up and thinks of ways to beat him
KINO
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Eye of the tiger
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Wrath of Asura
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>>287504519
Damn, crazy this guy lost.
He had superman syndrome and everything
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I know a part of me is so inspired by Kazzy because I grew up around many overly competitive or depressive men. To see someone stand up for themselves and for their fighter reminds me of some of my best coaches/mentors I had. I want to be like Kazzy when I am older and not give up.
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>>287506677Willem weighs more than Julius btw
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>>287507177
Nogi is partially talking out of his ass here. Sure, he's doing this to right a wrong done to Yamashita's ancestor, but why didn't he promote Yamashita to VP or something long ago as well?
>Yamashita gets kicked around as a low tier salaryman for years
>Nogi: Do I pay him more? Address his bully supervisor? Nah, I've got a better idea.
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Didn't Nogi just recently learn that Kazzy's ancestor was his ancestors friend?
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It probably took Nogi some time to do a proper background check on Kazzy and didn't want to make any sudden movements. He was still in the process of getting the proposed KAT moving and also needed to know how good Kazzy was
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>>287504448
What do you mean? :^)
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>>287505194
It's funny because Waka is like one of the most fraudulent high tier fighters, pure tell don't show. Like you're telling me all these secret boss motherfuckers got fodderized by Wakatushi yet Muteba can make him sweat and Julius just unga bungaing him can legit almost beat him. cCmon.
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Truly a razor thin margin
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>>287508292
He fought Muteba quite nerfed and Muteba himself is a crazy top tier. Julius is a honest contender for KAT winner, and the only man who surpasses Waka in brute strength. It's not too far fetched to think there would be some crazy top tier fighters like Ohma who got turned into mince meat by one punch.
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>That was just before the tournament
Hold on, he lost to both Agito and Hatsumi recently? He's fucking washed.
But also, after that he learned all the new bullshit to counter Agito and that sounds wrong.
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>>287508359
Why I called them "Secret bosses" it's a really absurd glazing becausethis Waka vs Ohma shows how much of a hard bastard Waka actually isthere was no need to dick ride him like that just show us
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I'm more mad at the tell don't show of it. "He offscreed five hyper strong guys" isn't impressive its' the oppositeas much as I talk shit this fight is fucking great and actually makes Waka look like beast he is
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Life is long. Maybe these legends just retired after they got Waka'd. I personally think it's really good to just tell us rather than make these guys important in other ways or try to bend your lore around them. Makes the world feel more organic.
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Are .ttf files dangerous? I got Laffayette from a site I googled, didn't seem dangerous to me
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>why waste them
Cause they're not even fucking characters? Just nameless guys that were never meant to be shown. Who cares? If they showed up in the tournament you'd have way too many dedicated to their runback with just one guy and that'd really ruin the novelty.
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Wakatsuki is tired of your bullshit Ohma.
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Spoilers for Kengan Omega, sorry guys
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>>287504273
KEKgan ASShitters better get ready to KNEEL.
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>>287509188
Certain forms of necrosis and frostbite, but in the case of Kengan, enough heavy bruising or blunt-force trauma will do it.
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>>287509327
NTA but I have this one
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>>287509392
I gotchu
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>>287509848
I must be on some level of braindead, because I laughed at this
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>>287504657
Great page.
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This page however looks loke ass. Is this AI generated?
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>>287510651
Full contact is not "elegant" enough.It's kinda insane that the only fight with an actual ideal clash in the RCT was Hiraku vs Justin. And it still was probably the worst fight in the tournament anyways. Hiraku was the more entertaining of the two too.
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>>287510781
Hey, I used to train Kyokushin. You can still kick people in the face, even if you can't punch them.
Also, you don't use gloves, even during sparring, which is probably part of the reason you're not allowed to punch each other in the face.
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>Is this AI generated?
no image generation wasn't really present conceptually nor widely available yet when this came out, the ai use started mid omega, the bad looking page is just daro half assing the drawing and covering it up with a lot of digital motion blur, which he does a lot in round 3
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>no image generation wasn't really present conceptually nor widely available yet when this came out
I know, I know. I was taking the piss. But that image looks really rubbish. Waka's punch is just a nebulous blob.
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Thank you
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>a dark purple bruise. this is a manga.
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>>287504839
I don't even mind we're doing this flashback stuff but interrupting Wakakino is unforgiveable
>>287508292
Remember thatJulius at this point in the story isn't a gigantic jobber and is considered a top-tier than could easily have got to R4 with a different seed. And Muteba is a haxxer
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Killing a bear and beating 500 jobbers isn't that impressive. Also I think a full 50% of the KAT roster has been stated to "totally be rivalling The Fang Of Metsudo dude trust us".
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Full contact karate's fighting style is heavily influenced by a lot of hard sparring under the condition of no punches to the face, so they attack at extreme close range and hit you with body shots and kicks to all levels (head, body, leg). Obviously you don't get any head movement or anything but you can develop some impressive flexibility and body conditioning and they punch like motherfuckers since they train bare knuckle.
Traditional karate tends to use point rules so it ends up being more like fencing where you hop in and out looking for a punch or kick, it's a little bit impractical if you never spar hard but the skillset can be very agile when adapted to MMA. Lot of good MMA fighters started out in point fighting styles like Shotokan.
Kuroki does the super traditional stuff where they mostly do kata and weird ass conditioning and how they spar depends on the dojo.
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He fought Muteba half blind and Muteba is actually a pretty terrible matchup for him because his attacks can make Waka's durability less meaningful. Also looking at overall ability Julius is himself one of the strongest fighters in the tournament, I'd say only Sen ranks higher in terms of people who got eliminated before the semi-finals.
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Okay so both of those arms are visibly fucked.
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And they continue getting fucked.
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One of them even stops working. Genuinely not seeing how Ohma is supposed to make a comeback with three limbs.
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>>287510781>Justin
What a fucking waste of a characterDude is Street Fighter V Luke a boring fucking nobody normal dude DLC added where things should be so far along that the only viables are the gigafreaksHe would have made sense as another early rival for Koga and should have been introduced before Kengan went GI Joe
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A kata is a "form", basically a sequence of moves performed in an incredibly specific way. It's basically a way for people to practice by themselves though there's a lot of debate about the practicality especially compared to shadowboxing.
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>Forgive me Niko... I'm going to need to use "that"... just once...
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Could Kiryu use Blink to kiss you outside of your perception?
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>DEX-trash get destroyed by STR-GODs as always
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>>287505031misasa is probably more upset at the monkey betraying them and killing one of his comrades just to be a dick, probably via sucker punch, than three bodyguards dying on duty while performing a job they signed up for
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Kengan has a guy who studies and learns the styles of others unilaterally and Kure style: Copy is LITERALLY stealing enemy's tricks magically.
But god forbid.
God forbid monke actually STUDIES UNDER A MARTIAL ARTIST AS HIS DISCIPLE and learns their technique, "STEALING" it
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Wakek is the undisputed master of Offscreen Kata. What a stupid fucking fraud.
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This. 100% truth.
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Why are people so mad at Monkey See?
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>arm disabled
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>lol no just kidding
Did this retard change his mind and didn't bother to change the previous pages?
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Anon, could you not spoil Rahen here? I'm still at Hanada's job search.
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Perhaps I have made a mistake
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A sort of...tiger...
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Don't worry, Kazzy the Impression Master can make any situation better
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>Will it even hurt this monster!?
This actually feels like Ohma is seeing Wakatsuki like a monster. Sandro has made characters call some other guy a monster so many times, but it does not always feel sincere.
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>Has failed before
>Does it again
Ohma please
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Wait a minute, isn't that more or less what happened to Sekiyabashi's mentor too, except that he didn't die?
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>i'm dead if i take a direct hit
>takes a fucking mawashi to the liver
>shrugs it off
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>Kazzy, you're actually from a named noble family AND have paranormal fighting abilities!
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>Kazzy, I owe you a fortune!
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>So I'm going to make myself the most prowerful secret evil company boss leader in private underground globally famous Japan!
>All for you!!!
>I planned this! No, actually, my family has planned this for 300 years!! Hahahaha!
Well. 9 pages of "lore world-building" I suppose is better than 9 pages of "THWOCK" art lines?
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There they are. The two absolute worst pages in all of Kengan. What fucking garbage.
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The Heart
The Brain
The Punch
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Beginner's mistake.
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Holy FUARK.
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Wait what?
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I will repay the Yamashitas by becoming chairman, coincidentally something that will also greatly profit me. Should I place him under my wing and give higher position and pay, fund a company of his own? Nah...
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>хорошо
Nice. I miss Danberu and their catchphrases and fun.
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Thanks OP
Anime version: https://youtu.be/7zc-iHlicVU?si=cGVoLBpQGGMNvhUO
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>хорошо
Her harasho catchphrase is terrific.
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I'm gonna say it: Otoichi having a popped collar AND the choker is stupidly hot and I need more girls like that ASAP
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Get the timing right
Go limp
Move
Flex your muscles
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That is not a mawashi geri (roundhouse kick), that is a crescent moon kick which has a different motion and striking surface (it snaps out like a front kick but at an angle and lands with the ball of the foot, not the shin)
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I find these injury consistency predictions strange because I don't remember one of them being right. Like the Waka one, well, he did get his face emergency grafted but he still came out of it down an eye. There's not much reason for them to be ignored anyways. Because they outright want to state how bad the fighters are feeling and how many painkillers they are on to even stand in the ring (Cosmo/Kaneda). The only reason they wouldn't be drawn is to be lazy I guess.
>Checking the next chapter and Daro just didn't draw the bruises blooming over areas that bandages partially covered
>His liver kick area was also just completely disregardedin the finals where his bruises are drawn
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
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>defeats an opponent who has better stats than him
>defeats an opponent who makes his stat advantages much less useful while half-blind
>only loses because his opponent has a technique practically custom made to counter him
>still nearly beats the counter by adapting, only thrown off because the counter works by literal magic
>still not fully KO'd after being hit by the strongest single attack in the series to date
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>the world's strongest karateka kicks you 5-6 times in the thigh
>somehow you are still standing
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Much respect. Ohma had to pull out the secret technique to have any effect on Waka
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the fight has an enjoyable amount of intensity but demonsbane first big outing feels quite lackluster in how its presented, it doesn't really feel any more impressive than the regular aikido bullshit of the niko style and ohma tanking full waka blows over and over feels nonsensical too, it really feels like it should be the kinda fight where SOME luck played a part, ohma winning should feel borderline miraculous
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Would you agree with Nogi or Kazzy here?
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So Rino definitely fucks them right?
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Oh shit it's the wobbly punches from the snake fist assassin technique.
That could defeat the king of knights, a heroic spirit and counter guardian to ward off dangers from humanity as a whole, the legendary King Arthur himself.
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>fuck your liver
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>fuck your kidney
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>unspecified organ damage
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>arm getting fucked yet again
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>Both legs get fucked too
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>left arm swelling straight up got popped like a balloon
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>lmao none of this matters because niko style
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Waka was described as a short of high tier (essentially mid) grappler who could at most succeed through brute strength.
Cosmo is a top tier grappler.
Ohma choked that top tier grappler the fuck out with his own arm.
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Ok. Have that same person immediately get hit by another 40mph car. Multiple times. Give me the statistics on that.
You can't, cuz they're mush. Like Ohma would be right now. It's an almost 100kg difference matchup for fucks sake.
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https://www.transportation.gov/safe-system-approach/safer-speeds
A "normal" person can survive getting hit by a 2 ton car going around 40 MPH half of the time... Now imagine if that "normal" person knew the Niko style... Do you see now?
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>Comparing a 200kg kick to a 2000 kg car
Unfathomable... to know that Waka has such skill to negate weight differences even higher than just Julius'...
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200kg kick concentrated onto a single foot vs 2t car like 1.5 sqm of contact surface when hitting a person.
One of these WILL kill and one maybe will if the victim is geriatric or a weeb negro.
I assure you it's the former that WILL kill, unless you tank Bas Rutten tier liver hooks for breakfast you'll fucking die to that kick.
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huh, I just personally retconned these two pages out of existence.. what was he trying to say here? Waka Strong? We already knew that, honestly Ohma didn't really win this fight. I remember feeling the same way, the fight should have been more evenly paced. But maybe that's the point? A Glass Cannon Counterman VS a Fucking Muscle Tiger, the battle will be quick. still dont get why the counter didn't just OHKO waka
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1.5sqm of contact is especially generous area measurement considering the car would also fling a person backwards to skid across the floor. Even if it did it hit the entire face of a body evenly. While Waka's kick only made Ohma fall to a knee instead of being pushed back.
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Same, I swear I remember it not ending like this. It's really shitand they end Ohma vs Kuroki the same damn way.
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checked and I agree, this is my 3rd read and Waka reearned his place in my "oh yeah I love that Kengan charcter" memory banks, Sao Pang too was funnier/cooler than I remembered.
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I think mangaka/authors should collectively agree to not offscreen the result of nearly any fight.
Hard mode reply (open to any anon); when was offscreening done right/beneficially?
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I don't think the offscreening here is any bad, the point of this was to show Waka's unyielding spirit and also his pride as a fighter. It's an emotional hook. Showing Ohma punch him one last time might be less respectful than the offscreening.
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There's certainly some manner of good off screening but an example is entirely evading me. My only idea is one where the main character is in a fight while an ally is fighting as well in an obscured background. Then they do a fake out where it seems that the ally lost and the side enemy is coming in to help defeat the main, crushing defeat style. But it's revealed the ally won and is there to back up the main character. The best examples I can think of that aren't exactly the case would be in Jojo part 3 where Polnareff patches himself up offscreen and jumps into the Dio fight to save Jotaro's life or Kongou Banchou where the monk guy resists a sleeping whistle or whatever put on his party offscreen and shows up to fight an assassin about to kill everyone.
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Nogi's right about tapping Ohma out of the fight so they can win, the man's half dead after all but Kazzy is also right that that the past is the past and that his ancestor died knowing what the risks, so there's no point in caring decades old guilt like that
Kazzy would also know that after the Fighters walk into the ring the CEO stops being in control unless they want to butt in and throw in the towel
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>Polnareff patches himself up offscreen and jumps into the Dio fight to save Jotaro's life
Too bad he only saves Jotaro's life in the OVA. In the actual manga/anime all he does is mess with Jotaro's plan and force him to stop his heart.
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I think it's pretty close but generally speaking Ohma should be the underdog here. He really proved the Niko Style's worth by putting up a good fight (let alone fucking WINNING) against a damn monster.
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>Waka beats the bitch into Ohma the entire fight
>"If I take another pecking order from Waka, I'm finished!"
>Waka loses anyway because Ohma did the equivalent of throwing a dude's Stat Check right back at them
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I wish it leaned more into the mindset of a Fighter rather than the mystical wushu shit it has going on but then it'd just be MMA and we already have a jobber for that
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>>287529444
Being a virgin is good.
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>>287526345
What if it was wakas injured foot. Kinda like how Dio lost because he used his bad knee
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>>287525951
Okay, ignoring any secret stuff Gensai hasn't shown us...
Can't Wakatsuki beat Gensai?