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Aki's little brother. He survived Gun devil in this timeline. Now he joined PS as a part-time devil hunter, attending school in the morning and doing devil hunting at night to avenge for his brother Aki. He'll meet Asa at school and they'll have a date at the aquarium. And you can't even say that this is impossible right?
He grew up looking exactly like Aki but with a warmer and friendlier personality btw
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>>287509544
Ok.
Yoru or nuWar will find Asa and make a proper contract with her since Yoru loves Asa. Now Asa can use War power to make any weapons any time she wants. And she'll get another California contract too which will make her basically immortal. She'll defeat nuKOT with a chainsaw made from ... someone idk. Then she'll marry Aki's brother or Yoshida and have 3 kids all of whom she'll turn into immortal hybrids with her weapon devils.
And you can't say this is impossible either.
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/csm/ really died after the last chappy, huh?
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>>287510937
I BELIEVE.
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>>287510979
>slow right now
That cope won't fly when I reply to you in under a minute
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Truly, verily, dead.
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>>287509508
So why exactly does Part 2 treat Denji's CSM shenanigans like some kind of unhealthy vice he should let go of for his own sake? He's the best devil hunter on Public Safety's payroll. He defeated Gun and Control. Why do they want him to quit?
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Accept my concession. I no longer love Power. It's all Mommykima in my head now. I got a girl and wanted her to be more boisterous and bratty. Didn't happen. Turned out she was just like Makima. So womanly. She tore my heart out. You win.
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After the dust has settled, What's the verdict on the strongest horseman character?
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>>287511224
What Pochita meant was that Denji can never feel satisfied with whatever accomplishments being CSM or having sex with a girl will bring to him. So Denji's better return to the time when he still has nothing and thus still has the joys of dreaming.
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The problem is that being CSM fucking sucks regardless of the deeds of Pochita and Denji being positive or negative. Because Denji has a target on his back permanently that don't allow him to live happy this due everyone wanting to use him, ruin his life to bring CSM Black or want to kill him. Also Denji is using the identity of CSM as mental armor and way to avoid his issues, Denji being CSM is holding back his growth and preventing to enjoy his dreams when he reaches them, Pochita knew this very well and gave Denji another chance for him to be finally be happy without anyone using him for their plans or wanting to kill him.
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Yoru did WHAT to Asa's body?!
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>>287511438
>*shoehorns an Aryan in as a horsewoman so she can get lewds*
I respect Fuji's hustle
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We need to rest.
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>>287511631
>Denji being CSM is holding back his growth and preventing to enjoy his dreams when he reaches them
Wrong. The reason Denji can never enjoy his dreams when he reaches them is that his brain is defective, Pochita says this quite clearly. So unless Pochita's reset gave Denji a new brain, the problem did not disappear and he's better off never reaching any of his dreams.
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How long will it be before the movie has a physical release?
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>>287511903
Is this really the way this page got translated?
No wonder you niggers were so confused.
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>>287511631
>without anyone using him
He is being used by everyone in this new world though.
And everyone trying to ruin his life was not the main issue here cause Denji actually loved pains and sufferings as he said in the fight with Miri. Denji is just a guy that can't be satisfied with anything that's all.
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>>287512070
At the beginning of p2 we already saw him being bored to death with his 'happy' normal life with Nayuta. This was confirmed further by him telling Nayuta to fuck off in the fight with the hybrids.
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The best is yet to come. Makima's anime in 2027!
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It's impressive that fujimoto wrote an ending the entire world hated.
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>>287509600
>contract with her since Yoru loves Asa
The contract is MARRIAGE.
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Nayuta controls Public Safety with an iron but fair fist.
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That is so ridiculous. Who would ever want to be a dog?
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>>287512057
>デンジはね、地獄の中じゃなきゃ天国を見つけられない…最悪だけど最高な脳みそを持っていたんだよ
>You see, Denji..... you had a brain that was the worst yet the best... the kind of brain that means you can’t find Heaven unless you are in Hell…
Our dear AmandAH translated it as 'crappy' instead of 'worst', but it's not like she mistranslated it or anything. I don't see the problem.
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>>287512198
>>Sex won't fix your fuck ups and miserable life
Sex with Asaru pussy would
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>>287512177
What saved Denji's life in the end was him befriending Pochita, taking care of Power, killing Makima, and raising Nayuta.
Otherwise he would've just died to Zombie again.
It's not the worst message since it rewarded him for the good things he did throughout the story.
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>>287515010
it's impossible to think like that with what he's done in part 2 getting on the way. Took care of Power? So what, he didn't keep his promise. Killed Makima? So what, another big and badder guys came up and the world only got worse. Raising Nayuta? His choices killed her.
And in the end he didn't even take accountability for any of that. He was just given a free pass into a "perfect" world by Pochita.
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>>287515081
There's an interesting message in there, the execution is the problem. If this had been written better and with more lead-up, it would've been more acceptable. The sudden end that intentionally closed all chances to resolve any previous questions is what people hate. Because it just happens and unambiguously says "its over, I'm not explaining ANYTHING" it leaves a terrible feeling that leads people to believe that Fujimoto just gave up and wanted out from Chainsaw Man as a whole. That's probably true as well.
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>>287515068
Part 2 Denji was a completely broken person from the very beginning, who never even once resembled his earlier self.
But that change wasn't introduced in Part 2, but in Part 1 after he went to the Kishibe bunker.
His CSM obsession was the cope that kept him going, and even though he did a few good things despite that, it was clearly a self-destructive path.
People who saw Denji kill Aki to save a few innocent bystanders, then saw Denji caring only about showing off when fighting Yuko while students were dying left and right, and thought this meant Denji had developed in a positive way somehow.
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>>287515081
They didn't matter nearly enough.
Power has an affinity for dogs now. Nayuta exists now but doesn't care about Denji in the same way. Is that seriously all there is? Asa's experiences and Part 2 as a whole definitely didn't matter though.
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>>287515426
>Is that seriously all there is?
There's a pretty big change that you didn't list.
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>>287515595
Fights in csm are so short that power tends to be less important than tactics/wit. The only properly long fight that tried showing off powerscaling was by far the biggest slog, and it shows very well why that shit doesn't fly in this manga.
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>>287515535
Power has been referred to as just "Blood Devil' before. I don't think it's meant to be taken literally.
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>>287515535
>Why does this matter?
Because Denji would've died if not for that.
>Also the Blood Devil looking EXACTLY like the body the Blood Fiend took over makes no sense
It makes sense, and that outcome was foreshadowed even before Part 2 started, with the info about devil appearances being related to their behavior towards humans.
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If you read her introduction in Part 1 and the one in the last chapter, the difference is pretty clear.
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>Because Denji would've died if not for that.
Fiend Power could already handle the Zombie Devil back in part 1. Unless you're talking about her new ability to revive a human with blood?
>It makes sense
It really doesnt. Fiend Power was possessing the corpse of a random dead human. There is no reason the Blood Devil should also be possessing the exact same body.
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>>287509508
General doesn't need to exist anymore btw
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>>287516016
Pochita 's erasure power didn't completely retcon everything, so this Power is the old Power, Blood devil possessing a corpse, just with a bit more experience carried on from past timeline. She's not a full form Blood devil.
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>>287516016
It does because that was what the promise she made with Denji was about, turning the Blood Devil into Power.
Add to that the info about devil appearances, and the bit about Nyako liking Nayuta as much as he does Power despite never having met her, and Conquest being Nayuta instead of Makima, and the message is pretty clear.
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>>287516285
Fujimoto had Power namedrop herself as the Blood Devil, but I guess for someone who already failed to understand the last 100 chapters of the manga, being also unable to understand the ending is just to be expected.
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>>287516448
Denji humiliation ritual
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>>287516499
Fuji said he always intended for Denji to stop being a hero though. I'm sure he planned this from the start. You guys just assumed this is another Naruto story where Denji will become the Hokage, King of Terror or sth.
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Reze love bites...
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>>287516580
Denji no longer being Chainsaw Man isn't the issue.
It's the whole later half or so of Part 2 that's the problem.
Fujimoto was definitely building towards this ending and the broad plot points.
But when it came time to draw and write them, he shit the bed.
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>>287516515
How is it a perfect dream world? Denji remained a diseased slave and a simp. He's unironically better off dead and body thrown into the dumpster after the reset. Not that the whole universe reset makes any sense in the first place. So much potential wasted RREEEEE!!1!
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>>287516560
I remember those two weeks of spamming about how Makima was about to return, and the OP of the last thread before the final chappy dropping being a Makima one.
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>>287516690
Look Back was well written and looked great.
Early Part 2 looked fantastic, was as well written as Part 1, and was paced very nicely.
Fujimoto clearly had plenty of passion at first.
It was only around the time of the Church Arc when things went downhill.
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>>287516751
Pochita erasing himself messed up the timelines making them mixed up together and created a world with two Control devils Makima and Nayuta existing at the same time... how'd you like this?
Makima won't give a fuck for Denji this time though.
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>>287516874
If Fujimoto insisted on the reset ending, I think a better way to do it would have been to have Makima still be around and in charge of PS.
But have her inherit Nayuta's feelings of love for Denji so that she finds herself caring for him without knowing exactly why.
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>>287516981
>I think Fujimoto transitioning
it's a known fact
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>>287516623
Because nu-ji isn't my Denji.
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>>287517075
this dead ship will never be canon no matter how many times you spam it here either.
same shit is true for asaden whale shippers. lmaoing @ all of you
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Fujimoto will fill volume 24 with 20 pages of omake
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>>287517293
In the end, all ships were crackships
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I rewatched the Reze movie and it was better than I remembered. They only honestly didn't need to go that hard for this arc but I'm glad they did
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>>287517572
>didn't need to go that hard for this arc
They absolutely needed to go that hard after the universally reviled first season. If the Reze movie hadn't been a complete critical and commercial slam dunk there likely would've been no salvaging the CSM anime.
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Let's post headcanons that have high chance to happen in this new timeline because of ... butterfly effects or sth..
I'll start,
Reze is not an orphan but a daughter of a Russian billionaire instead.
Quanxi is straight and now she's married to Kishibe and a happy mother of 7 kids.
Beam is a woman...
Kobeni's mother now prefers daughters and forced Nobana to be a hoe instead.
You like?
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I have faith the anime will redeem Part 2
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>>287517782
Yoru is dating China Devil
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>>287517293
Not sure what you're talking about, chapter 97 ended on a hopeful note and Reze's alive and immortal, there's all the hope in the world
Its too bad the story ended there, I would've liked some more chainsaw man, but I understand that it might have been for the best that way
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>>287518058
Our Heroes
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>>287515081
There's no message. Fjmt couldn't think of a way Denji could've won the battle and saved the world, so he went for the reset button.
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>>287509508
>Now he joined PS as a part-time devil hunter, attending school in the morning
You cant be a highschooler and work
its why Denji had to scam cigars to hobos
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>>287512177
Fujimoto wrote JJK and SNK?
>>287515047
>retconned
you redditors love that buzzwords
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>>287515426
>They didn't matter nearly enough.
>>287515535
>Also the Blood Devil looking EXACTLY like the body the Blood Fiend took over makes no sense.
This is the type of retard spamming the ending is bad btw
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>>287516242
Delusional yoshidacucks
Kishibe (Prime) > Kishibe (Old) > Denji (Power contract) > Aki > yoshida (octopus contract)
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And this is the true reason why you think the ending was bad, lmao
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>>287516329
You are a slowreader and a scholar
Unfortunately i fear you're trying to put sense into a retard
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>>287509843
it was nigga
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>>287519623
>if
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What's the sauce of this image?
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>>287520160
iing_naoe
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>>287517040
having a hobby is so fucking stupid dude
if you're not thinking about being good at it fast so you can monetize it you wont bother committing to it each day/week
if you're only thinking about making it a side income it quickly turns into another job you clock into on the evening taking away all the enjoyment
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>>287520550
nta, hobby can be anything, even interests that don't require developing skills, for example reading, or watching movies, or listening to music, basically what you're doing with CSM, you're just interested in art, at least I am. I keep trying to draw but I have problems so I am not good at it, I will never make money doing it, but it's still fun.
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>>287520550
It's a wonder you could stop rubbing your hands together long enough to make this post.
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>>287520827
There's a 50/50 that you need a better therapist or you have some undiagnosed paranoia disorder. Generally, you wouldn't be a therapist and not try to make meaningful progress.
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If you see hobbies that way then you have much bigger problems to unpack.
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>>287521004
That's weird, i can't find it either. Maybe it was a WIP that she deleted
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>>287521173
Found the thumbnail on a chinese site
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>>287521117
I'm an ex addict that's by background, my previous therapist had problems with making appointments, and hoping to solve the issue I started seeing someone far more expensive but this year it's back to the same problem. Yes, I also have other problems and I'm medicated so it's that much more frustrating when she's making me wait. Fuck this, I won't explain.
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>>287521253
Here https://www.huashi6.com/draw/936928
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>>287521262
Hope you get help soon. If it helps, I use growtherapy to find some local and not too expensive therapists and you can see their reviews and specific things they do best all sourced from their actual clients. I found my ideal therapist there, and haven't looked back.
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>>287521362
Baidu
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>>287516329
Following that logic, then Asa making Denji happy will become canon
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Here's your future Denji
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>>287521570
Asa so lucky
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>>287521522
SnK's legacy is Cuckren edits. CSM's legacy is edits of the "keep dreaming Denji" and "thank you Chainsaw Man" pages. Hard to say which series got it worse in the end.
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my friend told me pochita is the birth devil because women to give birth feared the saw so much and that he could've low diffed the horsemen by unbirthing them via cockvore and basically fujimoto didn't have the balls to draw it... thoughts?
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All I want is more of Reze..
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>>287521362
saucenao only works if you search the full one instead of the crop unfortunately
https://exhentai.org/g/2817191/cddc75c267/
deleted off their pixiv but reupped here
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>>287522144
he's the child devil which encompasses the concepts of birth and parental bonds and all that and how a child saps your energy and changes your life. he would've killed the horsemen by unbirthing himself and then busting out like alien.
source: i made it up just now but it has a movie reference so it's confirmed Real
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>>287520160
I crop that Powy, it's strange that I couldn't find the image on their profile.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/65471313
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>>287522172
Don't we all.
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What Pochita meant by this?