Ive seen about 12 or so in the ten years ive been using them. The only way i can have any human contact is this way btw so im judging it by that. It is and isnt worth it imo. It is worth it if you are judged as being so bad you cant even get a reply back from a woman because then you get to experience what was stolen from you by modernity bullshit. The downsides are massive though. First major one is every escort is jacking their prices up by a lot while offering nothing more or even less than they did before. Like i lost my virginity for $180, full hour. Today that same woman is $750/hr. Is she doing anything different? No, shes just ten years older now and i guess shes decided her values gone up from 25 to 35. Delusional. Ive seen scams, rules on rules on rules, deposits, extremely invasive screenings, flaking, women showing up clearly on drugs, theft, attempted robberies, ive had a local buddy who does this get shot because he showed up to a fake ad that had masked robbers in it and i guess one felt like shooting him.

Also the women are ugly as hell. Like that girl in your pic would be like $500/hr on average. Everything would be covered and it would be rushed as hell.

>>34569895
I think that's in America. I the EU Eestern European and Brazilian are like $140-$200. Fat British women in their 40-50s charge $300-400 which makes me kek because the former at in their early 20s and slim.

>>34569895
This all depends if you live in the US, the us is probably the worst place on the planet for whoremongering. The women are overpriced, ugly, fat and they suck. I only do it because i have literally no other options and its i guess still cheaper than dropping $2k on the plane tickets alone to go to thailand. I dont have $2k to burn on a two week fuckfest but i do have $400 occasionally. This obviously holds back my future because now i cant invest it or save it or anything because i have to deal with this constant loneliness problem. Thats another thing this might open up. A dependency on a luxury you arent supposed to get. To me now sex is worth around $500 if the girl doesnt look like she crawled out of a divebar. If her bmi is under 20 expect insane price markups. There was a time, pre-2020 where you could still fuck them cheap but that time is long gone. Normal weight, not even petite girls, know their worth now.

Onlyfans and sites like it have ruined the price on basically all younger women. Its extremely rare to find a non-scam, non-robbery under 25 year old escort for under $1000. This is because if you are a even moderately attractive young woman you were told growing up all men want to brutally rape you and murder you and that online is safer because they cant touch you. So they just skip the irl stuff and instead have pages on tryst and STG to advertise their OFs account because they would rather make in half a day what they would make risking their lives(in their minds) in an hour. I watched in 2020 when that shit took off and prices went from $180/hr to $400/hr in six months.

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>>34569902
Yeah i dont know the markets or how it works in europe other than its easier, cheaper and the girls are hotter. Some countries i know have some bullshit laws where its not illegal to sell just illegal to buy. I would avoid those. I know sweden is one. These are places ripe with blackmail. Either find a place thats legal fully or illegal fully so you have mutual assured destruction if the bitch tries to snitch.

>>34569906
Youre going to cry when you see the prices where i live lol you guys are so lucky.

>>34569870
>Is it worth it?
Worth what? What are you asking?

>>34569870
>Is it worth it?
Only you can answer that. It's great fun; but that's all it is. If you're expecting some kind of transformational experience, it won't happen. (Virginity isn't a real thing, merely a construct; and you can't feel different because you "lost" something that doesn't really exist).

>>34569923
Virginity is though a mental state. I know i was far more lovey dovy and affectionate before i started blowing through sex workers. If you are planning to have a girlfriend or a wife, i would recommend against it. In my experience it makes it extremely difficult to do. Like everything you do will feel transactional and throw away since you are used to it being throw away and transactional.

>>34569870
I've never done it, but I don't think it's worth it if, as the anon above me says, you want to have a real relationship with a woman in the future.
Viewing women as an object that provides a service you can just buy outright with cash isn't going to improve your outlook on them or your success with them outside of whoremongering.
Personally, I also don't think my self-esteem would ever truly recover from knowing that I'm a man who had to pay for sex.

>>34569903
Just buy a VR headset and call it a day.

>>34570139
I actually have a vr headset and it plus a fleshlight isnt even close to the same. Like even visually the distances and everything are all fucked up. I personally love feeling someone close to me, i love the weight of the woman on me, and i just the general unpredictable nature of it where you dont know what shes going to do next. The closest i found in the past was finding someone online to masturbate with but it seems like, for some reason, in the last 2-4 years its been extremely difficult to find someone to do that with. Like any woman is just getting bombarded with messages and for some reason i just cant seem to land it.

>>34570151
>Like even visually the distances and everything are all fucked up.
Setup is wrong. You need the right app for sure for your headset. I use the M2 Vision Pro with CineUltra and the dimensions are completely perfect. I believe it uses eye tracking fucker to auto-refocus the image when you move your eyes.
But sure, it's not going to be the full experience. Just the visual and audio one.

what's the etiquette if you do go for it? i guess im a giga autist virgin but i wouldn't even look for one because i would overthink how awkward the interaction would be.

>>34570273
>what's the etiquette if you do go for it?
Do not ever kiss a prostitute, do not lick her vagina.

>>34569870
As long as they don't look like picrel

>>34570481
>As long as they don't look like picrel
Would you not? Look at that tight ass and silly smile.

>>34569870
Yeah, for me it is.
I can only get slampigs for dates as a manlet here, so fucking escorts with a nice body feels amazing. I even dated one and she paid for my meals. She was great.

>>34570481
pic related would be considered hot for an escort where i live. Seriously these women are fucking disgusting and it boggles my mind when they are making over six figures tax free a year not a single one of them ever thinks hey, im going to go to a gym, and get a trainer, since my income is based off my looks and long term health.

>>34569870
Thank God for my foot fetish as I can be satisfied with just blowing a load on some soles. No way I'd ever put my dick in a hooker.

It ultimately depends on your attitude about life in general. As others said terms like "virginity" and "relationship value" are made up from jews to keep society specifiacly men under control. Sex is basic need for healthy men if you haven't reach social status to get constant pussy you have to monger. And if you aren't weak faggot there is nothing degrading to connect with prostitute you like

No you dont. What you need is to cut back and hit the gym. But youre too fat and undisciplined to do that. Youre not even in control of your own body.

>>34571711
You are the weak faggot who has to resort to paying to masturbate with other people. Your frail mind cant handle the fact that its just not going to happen for you naturally so you cope by paying. Embarrassing.

>>34570488
I would not. Her ass looks like two bags of cold oatmeal

>>34571724
Yeah that's most common response i've had alongside "your fat neckbeard who can't talk woman" which are both wrong. Since I'm not living in country filled with college slut I'll married with some girl who is living with her parents which is also virgin within couple years , meanwhile i'll keep fucking escorts for low price than their usual cuz they make discount if you'r above average and know how to talk

>>34571757
>I would not
I really doubt.

>Her ass looks like two bags of cold oatmeal
I would make that oatmeal ass wrap my cock like a hot dog, lol

>>34569870
think of it as going on a roller coaster or test driving a car
it's not the same as having your own car and doesn't feel the same but the mechanics are the same and the enjoyment might be greater if the car you can afford is shitty compared to what you can test drive
I've had gfs and significant other and I have never visited escorts or prostitutes while in a committed relationship but I've mongered plenty while single and I've had mostly my fun, but that's because I'm very experienced with it so I can usually get exactly what I'm looking for
when I was starting it was hit or miss, half were good experiences, the other half was meh, so there is that, as with a lot of hobbies that include social interaction, gaining experience nets you better results
last year I closed the year with 44 new girls fucked, almost one new girl per week
this week I'm lacking, I'm repeating a lot, but that's mostly because I've found many that I liked at lot so I wanted to repeat with them.

>>34572329
You are a fat neckbeard LOSER who cant talk to women.

>but I get discounts sir!

ultimate fucking cope. You are lying to your self lil bro. Step your game up and get pussy for free if you actually are so cool

>>34569895
lol it seems the market in your area is fucked beyond belief
I fuck pretty girls for what amounts to 50 USD, 100 if I'm feeling generous.
granted people earn a lot less here but I earn enough to have new and young girls come by my place pretty often
I'd never fuck anyone over 25, and in fact I have never, not even significant others, I've always had luck with getting them while they're young.

>>34569903
yeah that's another problem you guys have too many serial killers, if I was an american woman I'd also be wary of fucking unknown people, you gotta do something about your public health, men are ticking time bombs for the most random reasons over there

>>34570124
this is like saying people don't appreciate home made meals made with love and care just because fast food and even fancy restaurants are a thing
nonsense
I've banged everything from paid to one night stands to gfs and a fiancee and the feelings can and do flourish again with the right person
it is true that you become demanding of good sex, that's for sure, I've broken up with a girl that was mostly fine because sex was crap and she was closed from the idea of ever improving.

>>34569935
>If you are planning to have a girlfriend or a wife,
Being tender and affectionate basically guaranteed that every hookup turned into an FWB after I loist my virginity. Apparently most guys my age are too jaded from prior relationships, finding a man who gives them the bf exeperience with no strings attached is exceedingly rare for women.
Artificialy jading yourself with hookers it just a dumb as fuck idea, it won't teach you really good sex while taking away an advantage.

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>>34569895
so you were rushed for a whole hour?

>>34572600
Tell me about it, its absolutely miserable. But, for someone like me its either suck it up and deal with the beat down older women or get nothing, at all. The escorts here are also on some major bullshit, the games they play is insane. The only time i ever tried to bring a woman to my house in an outcall she called me when she was at the door, let it ring once, then hung up and left keeping my deposit. Later she accused me of being a scammer and a time waster(even though she kept my deposit) and then some random dude in a ski mask broke the window on my car late at night. Idk if that was connected but i feel like it was. I think they can act like this because they know you arent going to do anything, because you cant. They have all your personal info from screening, and they probably have gang connections too. You hurt them and you go to prison or get fucked up by a pimp. So they scam and do whatever they want with no consequences.

But yeah after that i never sent a deposit again and i never tried to bring an escort to my house. Hotels or cardates only. I also dont make enough to see them more than once every 6 months too so when one burns me like that it really burns and pisses me off.

>>34572952
What do you mean? Most dont offer half hours or qv anymore. Some do and thats how i was ever even able to see escorts the last like 3 years because i dont last long anyways so an hour is overkill. The problem is a lot of guys realized this too so a lot just flat out stopped allowing cheaper rates, some citing "safety" reasons(as if you can do anything to them when they know your real name, phone number, home address and work address. Like come on lady. If i harm you the cops will be at my door tomorrow because rape is a felony and prostitution is a misdemeanor.

>>34572653
Exactly why i dont recommend it unless you know you will never get into a relationship. So far its safe to say i never will. Im in my 30s and havent had attention from women in over ten years. Now i know i cant because thanks to escorts i have grown to absolutely and completely fucking hate women with a passion especially since they FORCED me to go down this path i never wanted to go on. Like i was never someone who was constantly chasing girls, horny, thinking about having a ton of sex. I wanted ONE woman in my life, to date for life and i got told no, fuck off. So now im out thousands of dollars and a bunch of baggage because they decided to do that to me.

>>34569895
>Everything would be covered and it would be rushed as hell

if you're with her for a whole hour how is that being rushed?

>>34569870
just keep lowering your standards until you find a girl who wants to fuck you
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA&pp=0gcJCQ0LAYcqIYzv&ra=m

>>34572998
So where I live just because you paid for the hour doesn't mean you get an hour. It ends shortly after you cum. If shes nice, sometimes she will cuddle for the remaining time but out of the 12 I've seen only two have ever done that. They usually want you out of the room immediately and if you want to fuck again you have to pay for another hour. So if you go in and cum in five minutes, well, too bad. 55 minutes paid to her I guess.

Sometimes they would also rush it by having fast clocks. You can get apps that make the time faster, there was one time I went to one at 12:00pm, I paid for an hour, she then claimed I had been there an hour already because her alarm went off and "another client is coming up rn" so she rushed me out of the door, and I ended up getting a nut off in the bathroom of a local gas station, $400 poorer,knowing I was only there for ten minutes.

I'm telling you the escorts here fucking suck and I wish them all a hopeful visit from a serial killer. Unfortunately the laws and tech behind the laws saves their asses so they will just keep scamming and fucking dudes over tell someone crashes out and throws their life away

>>34572965
>The escorts here are also on some major bullshit, the games they play is insane.
just like regular women lol

>>34573022
$400 and you got rushed and didnt cum? why are they being unfair?

>>34573042
Why aren't they? I paid for an hour, they didnt give it to me.

>>34573040
Except with regular women you aren't out hundreds of dollars usually

>>34572965
bro that sounds miserable
here prostitution is legal
pimping isnt
so if a girl by her own volition decides to work as a prostitute you can complain to the police if they scam you and everything
yes even tho it's legal it still carries some stigma so some people let some stuff fly by not to be seen as a mongerer, but if the scam is too big people surely complain and even go to the police
the police rarely does anything because they fuck the girls and everything is forgiven, so that's not a useful route, the one that stings them the most is cancelling them on pages that have ads for them.

>>34569895
the fact that they get older they charge more is beyond me. who the fuck uses that logic?

>>34573083
Lucky. I envy the places that are legal for those reasons. Sex shouldn't be a dangerous expensive turbo luxury that can only be had twice a year if you are lucky with a woman who is old enough to be your mom. Like I was fucking 50 year Olds in my early 20s.

It's funny you talk about reporting the ads. I've tried that many times when girls either clock scammed me or deposit scammed me and never once did any of their ads come down. The site just told me there "wasn't sufficient evidence" so the girls just continued their scams as usual. I posted about it on local mongerer forums but idk how many people check then so I doubt it really dented their cash flow. I basically just avoid any woman in her early 20s now just because the scamming is so high it's basically 100%. Onlyfans ruined these women and unfortunately they are correct, nothing will ever happen to them.

>>34573096
they just need better pimps to regulate them

better pimps is the only way things are gonna change

>>34573103
You do have a point. I think they started really going to shit around the time we started getting stricter human trafficking laws and penalties for pimping. A lot of them are independent which they proudly advertise but in the end that just makes them charge up the ass for services that are terrible. I think another reason why they are charging out the ass lately is because people arent seeing them since the price hike but instead of just idk lowering your prices to what they once were they instead raise them to make up for the lost sales as if its shoplifting. Fucking stupid.

>>34573146
exactly. especially if you're 10 years older, who are you to charge extra?

>>34573196
I dont know. Whats funny is ive had decent experiences with older women because i think they were from a pre-onlyfans pre-new laws time period of escorting when your job WAS to actually, you know, serve your client, make them happy, make them feel relaxed and loved. You know, the FUCKING REASON SOMEONE IS PAYING YOU. Like these new hoes are dumb as fuck, straight up retarded. They think you just get money for existing and i guess i dont blame them, the internet and onlyfans and shit taught them that but its fucking annoying. I want to fuck young women, i want to fuck women who dont look like my moms friends. But unfortunately i cant do that for the reasons before. Maybe i need to go to thailand or something. If only i had the money.

Honestly if the escorts were better and cheaper and i could make more money i probably wouldnt be whining about loneliness as much and would just fuck them once a month.

>>34573096
yeah I fucked 44 new girls last year but ask me how many I acquired myself
I have a network by now, including a girl who has one of those recruiting pages where she talks to girls and tells them how much money then could be making and all of that but I would never ask for them myself, if something goes wrong I can complain to the girl that brought me the girl and even pay half, I'm very clear that my money is safe, I've never scammed them or anything but I'm very strict about them behaving like I want to. It's girlfriend experience every single time.
I love it when I find a girl who posts about turning 18 in some days and telling that girl to talk to her that day so she comes freshly turned 18, one of the best orgasms I have is thinking about how I'm basically fucking a brand new girl.
I don't want this recession in my country to end, am I an asshole for that...

>>34573206
Where i live i cant really do anything like that. I basically get worst of both worlds where you have like conservative puritan laws but also modern whoredom. So you basically have all the women under like 35 fucking 20% of the men as usual and then escorting being completely illegal. Extremely annoying as someone who cant even get a hug if i dont pay for it. I end up going like nearly a year at a time between seeing them and by that point i am so nervous im about to nearly throw up. Last year i actually did throw up i was so nervous. Its just what happens when you are dehumanized for so long and then have to go do something human. Mentally its a conflict.

The youngest escort i ever fucked was 24 i think? She was pregnant and a friend of this very well established other escort who was a tall blond woman in her 40s. It was by far the hottest sex ive ever had. We drank her breast milk, i ate both of them out, she even peed on my cock in the shower and let me fuck her raw in the shower. I also came inside the blonde woman balls deep making her my first and only bare experience. It still gives me goosebumps from how intense it was. Nowadays such an experience would be like $1400. I paid $500 for both. Insanely cheap to imagine today.

>>34573220
*making them both my first and only bare experiences

>>34573220
I've kinda lost count of the amount of times I've had bare sex and creampied these girls
I tell them I had a vasectomy
It's not true but I'd be surprised if I go to the hospital and they tell me anything other that I'm basically sterile. Not something I wished but you play the hand you've been dealt so I creampie freely now knowing I'm not leaving bastards around.

>>34569870
the only time I've ever came from a blowjob was from a prostitute, she just kept going and going for like 15 minutes. try to find a regular normie woman who would do that. she seemed proud of herself too and was shocked at how much I came. she said "I could tell you needed that" with a grin.
also the only black chick I've ever had sex with. she was hot, tall amazon-type darkskin. I still think about her sometimes.

>>34569870
sex with women is overrated

>>34573257
I usually dont try to raw them often, the only way i can is by stealthing and/or getting the girl a bit tipsy. Escorts all have like barely any self control so if you throw alcohol in their face they will drink it a ton and loosen up a ton. The blonde woman i came inside was drunk off a bottle of wine, the pregnant girl obviously wasnt drunk i think she was just new and very horny.

>>34573346
Black girls are like that. I lost my virginity to one and i cant tell you how fucking wet she was and how much i came inside her. She also said something similar. Ive had sex with about 5 black girls in the past and over all they have been good.

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>>34569895
I think you're just bad at looking. Be smart about which sites you use, try to do some research on the provider (for example, if they have reviews on TER or TOB). In general the advice I give is use a combination of theeroticreview, theotherboard, tryst, eros, slixa, PrivateDelights, P411. If the girl has a personal website it's usually a plus. Same for a social media presence.
I've only had a few hookers, but each one was great. Prices I have used range from 340 (440 for Greek) to 600. One was 500/hr and was genuinely drop-dead gorgeous (this pic doesn't do her justice, she had an amazing bubble ass to go with that banging body, and a gorgeous face).

>>34573478
yeah I wouldn't try to raw women over 25 either, even if they're very exclusive, they have some massive mileage on them.
I creampie the girls I get because they're all 18 or so
I thank the popular music of my region that is always speaking about doing it without a condom because I have very little problem proposing raw sex to them compared to millennials, they acted like I raped them if the condom broke by no fault of mine, these girls don't even mention a condom most of the times.

>>34573515
$500 for 1 hour is ridiculous lmao

>>34573525
Well, maybe. But the person I was responding with was saying that 500 gets you the OP pic. In my xp, with just a little bit of diligence you can get far more for that.

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>>34573515
I use tryst and skipthegames for finding girls while eccie is what i use for reviews since its free. any other site has women that are far far far too expensive for me.

I think it all comes down to location, i live in the midwest, the women here are mid as fuck. A midwest 5 is a everywhere else 2. For me to find a girl thats real and as attractive as the pic you have you are starting at, baseline, $800. And thats like the dumpster in cost. The girl in my pic is, for GFE, $500/hr. Which is why i said that. I censored the pic btw because this is a sfw board and i dont want to get banned for posting nudity. I think we can both agree though she looks similar to OPs pic.

>>34573521
Ive basically only rawed women at least 15 years older than me. Ive luckily came out safe but yeah, older they are the higher chance of them having something. And ive also had an experience with a millennial woman acting like i raped them because the condom broke. In the end it resulted in her actually basically getting raped because she didnt have my personal info(called from a wifi number), and when the condom broke she freaked out and went into the bathroom and was on the verge of tears. This was like 10 minutes into me being there, i had already given her $450, i said look, we had sex and it was raw sex but can i just give you like a quarter of this if you are going to break down like this. No, she wanted the whole deal, ok, how about half? No. Full. I said ok fine, i then when into the drawer, grabbed another condom and then bent her over the sink in the hotel bathroom and started fucking her while she cried. She tried to stop at first and actually hit me but i just held her down and kept going. She just let me do it with my hand on the back of her neck. It wasnt hard to keep her down. After i came i kept the condom just in case she went to the cops. I told her she earned her money now and she just was quiet and just crumbled on the bathroom floor.

It was bullshit, she didnt need to force me to do that. She tried to steal nearly half a grand for a mistake and when i tried to be reasonable she tried to tell me to fuck off. I ended up having one of the strongest orgasms of my life and its why i feel like over the past idk 3 years or so ive moved past the point of no return. I literally cant feel empathy towards women anymore, and if i had the chance to, i would never have consensual sex with them, ever. Im not sure how to speak to a professional about this because i keep having thoughts of doing it again and again.

>>34573746
I should add she tried to end the session because the condom broke, that is why i acted like that. I was willing to say ok, fine, heres $112 since we didnt get the full hour and she gave a decent blowjob but no, she wanted to take all of it. Thats what pissed me off so badly.

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>>34573732
I really like theeroticreview. Costs like 30/month, but it's worth it, even if only for 1 month to get a catalogue of reliable escorts in your area. Here's some of the recently reviewed escorts in within 50 miles of Kansas City. Under the stars, where you see x/y where x and y are numbers (e.g. 8.1/9.3), the first number refers to the rated looks of the girl, and the second number to the rated performance/service.

>>34573752
Funny enough i almost saw Kayden Karter but her screening was ridiculous. Like wanted uncensored drivers license level ridiculous. Not getting my identity stolen today.

Regardless ill think about it, when i start making enough money to spend on escorts more than once or twice a year i can justify spending $360 a year extra on a website that has reviews. Ive been burned too many times with escorts lately that the fun of it is gone and now im just pissed off at women in general which is something im trying to warn OP about. Women bring bullshit but escorts seem to bring expensive bullshit. Like i have female friends and they can sometimes piss me off but an escort will piss me off for a weeks paycheck. Thats the difference. And that just bleeds into all women for me lately since they are the onlys ones i am getting physical contact with. I am debating seeing another one though, i havent had sex in over a year and four months. Ive just been using AMPs lately which have been fine but its the usual "L1 from a woman as old as my mom" deal and i just want to fuck something hard.

>>34573746
Did you at least warn her before you raped her that either you reach a reasonable compromise, or that you were going to rape her to get your money's worth?

>>34573793
The memory is kind of a blur to me but I think I just said "aight I guess we are going to do it like that" or something. It was like something washed over me and I fucking snapped. It's something that's nearly happened to me a few times with women in the past but usually I repressed it. This time I couldnt. She's lucky I used a condom, and I didn't use her ass and really made it hurt. Don't fuck with my money. And don't fuck with someone who you don't know, in a room alone with them. The disrespect and ego on her to even try that boggles my mind.

Sometimes I do wonder if that's ever going to come back to me but it's been 3 and a half years now. I don't see her ads anymore even though she was active for almost a year after. I've been avoiding escorts for the reasons I mentioned above but also because I've been getting more of a sadistic dominance urge. The last one I had sex with I fucked her ass without asking. She was an older whore and was fine with it as long as I used lube, said I was a bad boy for doing it without asking. It kinda took the fun out of it but whatever. I just want to fuck a girl who is crying and shaking again because it feels amazing. But you might ask why I stopped seeing them if I like this shit? Because I remember in my early 20s I was a romantic, sentimental guy who could get into a relationship and now if I got into one I would probably abuse her just because I want to keep her in line. I'm sick of being such a piece of shit but they force me to.

I just want to worship some pale white feet without touching genitals but that’s illegal and I don’t know where to find them

>>34571757
>Her ass looks like two bags of cold oatmeal
I would hit that like a rabbid squirrel on steroids.

>>34574001
It's a shame about the tattoos.
Bad enough having to blast ropes on Momoa's face, let alone if the tattoo's so bad he looks like fucking Liver King

>>34574003
>Momoa's face
Oh is that who that is
>looks at the pic again and notices the ear gauges
Okay, I've lost interest. Nevermind.

>>34574028
>>34574003
>Momoa's face
Not Momoa's face, but Gandalf, Spock, Patrick and Garfield.

>>34574116
Oh it's McKellen!
He wouldn't mind, then

>>34574119
>McKellen
Yup, I had forgotten his name. As I said before, I'm making that beautiful ass wrap around my cock like a hot dog, most women have cellulite, I don't understand why Chuds find it gross, lol

>>34574121
Some of it is noncery, most young girls don't have it unless theyr'e fat, and incels tastes never change from 16 year olds.
I suspect most of it is being exposed to naked women predominantly by way of doctored pictures in soft lighting. I don't think they realise that even without touching a setting the stock camera app will clean that shit up, because women buy the phones that produce pictures that make them feel best.
Pain in the cunt if you own a Pixel, have to jump through hoops to actually get a raw image.

>>34574130
>incels tastes never change from 16 year olds
>I suspect most of it is being exposed to naked women predominantly by way of doctored pictures in soft lighting
You're probably right, in retrospection, when I was a teen I was no different either.

>>34574028
I would still plow her. I am paying for a sex object not the mother of my children. When I see tattoos, piercings, and cellulite on her giant juicy ass my brain is immediately thinking about how good, how insanely good it would feel to bottom out in her pussy and let off as much sperm inside her as possible. Just stress test her birth control by making her pussy leak with cum.

When I am looking for an escort I'm not looking for some wholesome pure virgin wifu im looking for a sex object whore I can use and abuse tell she's a sweaty mess on the bed

>>34573065
>Except with regular women you aren't out hundreds of dollars usually
first of all, lol
idc how much you pay them, women are women. Thats part of the experience.

>>34575044
Bro you are a clown if you think the average woman is pulling $500 out of you before you first have sex lmao this cope needs to die. Like if you have one date that's probably like $20 down max, if she flakes on you you're only out $20. I've only had sex with escorts but from the guys I've talked to who have slept around with civilian women and had romantic relationships they spent maybe $50 maximum before they had sex, sometimes $0. If you are out $500 by the time a woman does some bullshit to you you got scammed so hard by regular ass women. Stop blowing money on them. At least with escorts theres a criminal experience element so you at least have an excuse

this is one benefit of living in a shit third world country, escorts are cheap and pretty

I have been with five prostitutes across the past two years.

My first time with one (after the breakdown of my marriage was a failure) I just wasn't into the woman, she did nothing for me. My next experience the following month was a success. I have now seen that woman six times, I have built a rapport with her, she even told me her real name and about her personal life. The others times were hit and miss.

I only go for oral. I have no desire to fuck any of them. I'll wait until I back in a relationship for that. I look upon it as a means to an end. It's enjoyable, not overly expensive and no one will ever know, as I will never mention it to future partners or any of my friends.

>>34575354
I plan on telling any potential future partner. I know it probably ends the relationship then and there, but I'm a fan of honesty.

>>34573746
you jumped to conclussions too fast bro
I thank the fact that I've had many many lovely women in my life growing up, my mom is a saint, my classmates were sweet, my sister is my sister, so we fight but she's a decent woman and we support each other when things get serious, I've had nice exes, even the worst one I blame their mental health more than her as a person
you're conflating people working in an illegal industry in your country to normal women.
if I know 1 thing about prostitution from your country is that it attracts the worst kind of people, pimps and prostitutes learn to not trust anyone, take advantage of anyone and scam as soon as they enter because they're already doing something illegal, might as well go for something grander.
in my country I've met many sweet girls that work or study and stuff but they have nice banging bodies and see their friends with a new phone and ask them where and then they're brought to my place or dudes like me.
just today the girl that came did it because her mom's birthday is soon and she wanted something special for her mom since she has been having a rough time lately at work and with extended family.
Anyways, don't bunch normal women with prostitutes in your country bro.
Also I would have also asked to pay only a quarter and stood up my ground on it if I was you but in my country these things can be escalated to police if it gets to that, it's legal here
it never escalates to that.
As for the strong orgasm, yeah I have a similar problem I do cum from all the power I have over the girls sometimes, I try to have a gf experience and for her to enjoy it too, but if she starts behaving like she's hating it, well I continue and just feed that into my fantasy, I'm fucking and creampying you even if you despise it.
But I try not to get those girls often, I always leave it clear to my providers that I want girls that want to do a gf experience and behave like so while we're fucking.

>>34576163
I understand this, I think many people would do the same.

However, for me, with my age (late thirties) I highly doubt any future partners and I will have the whole past partners conversation. Nothing positive will come from it. I'm most likely going to end up dating a fellow divorced parent.

I personal opinion is nothing good will come from telling a future partner that you have been with prostitutes. I think the vast majority of people don't have a positive view. They think all of the women are oppressed and their against their will.

>>34569870
Its worth it but you have to go anywhere outside the US, don't bother otherwise unless you find a good agency in NYC. I'd say its slightly less fulfulling than a random ons but only because of the time constraint, sometimes I can get validation when the whore's pussy is wet or they can get super into it which desu I think alot of them do. But egoboost from a one night stand is better for sure but half the time girls dont even text me back after a ons so its kind of moot anyway, just bragging rights to your boys

>>34577635
Too add to this I would go to a different country and just try it out with different whores. Don't outright dismiss it because some of the experiences can be shit especially if she has rules but if you find who is into you or is just good there are not barriers, I have had raw and eating her pussy out which probably isnt good idea but yeah

>>34569902
Yeah UK pricing is weird. HK is apparently the place but it's like £60/half hour which is £120/hour. Which is cheaper than the UK median which I guess is around £200. But I guess different countries have different norms seeing as a lot of the UK posting specify unlimited cummings. Idk. I've never hired one in the UK.

UK prices also vary wildly. You have good looking latinas for like £180 or less an hour, then you have ugly + fat or slightly above average generic women chargin £300-500ph. I'm not saying they're ugly/fat/generic to be insulting. It's a genuine trope I've noticed

>>34576789
>Anyways, don't bunch normal women with prostitutes in your country bro.

You dont know how bad it is here. The fact i was forced to see prostitutes to get what the average guy gets for free, is a testament to how much the average, not even hot but average woman, dehumanizes any man who doesnt fit a standard she saw on tiktok. I tried to treat them normally, and i got treated like shit. The women here are not women like you have there. They are all hostile as fuck, anti-social and angry. They deserve to be raped just to reset the proper order that existed for thousands of years.

>But I try not to get those girls often, I always leave it clear to my providers that I want girls that want to do a gf experience and behave like so while we're fucking.

Ive only had a proper gf experience once, and the fact that these girls cant even PRETEND to do it for even $500+ just shows how low they consider me. The proper gfe broke my mind for a month or two, it showed me what i had been deprived of for zero fucking reason for the past 15 years. It showed me that actually yes, as a matter of fact yes, all of my problems would be solved if i had someone in my life, as a matter of fact no, i dont need to go on any great journey of enlightenment to the stars, i just needed to not grow up rejected my.entire.fucking.life. Now im too far gone. Hope has left. But it showed me a window where it didnt, and the person i could have been. It was like being shown heaven before going to hell, it just made life worse. Now i would rather have a woman who is despising it and reinforcing my current world view than one who is acting like someone im not and never will be.

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There's this random meetup in the local part I'm thinking on attending to meet girls, but it's demoralizing I live in a touristic city and people going to these things are expats ,tourists and exchange students. I want a local gf.

Now I'm thinking that after I'm there and I manage to not make a connection with anyone, I might just go fuck an hooker for 50€. Last time I went it was in october. That happened because I felt resentful after a failed date.
I was in a talking stage with a girl recently, but she was just fishing for attention...

I do regret it (sometimes) and but I also regret the amount of time and money I've put into socializing in volunteering events and dates

>>34577687
Well, aren't you a ray of sunshine. Its impossible to imagine why women aren't falling over themselves to be in your company.

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>>34569870
>>34573515
>>34573732
Jesus christ how sickening. You people are fucking sad for considering paying more than $20 for these nasty holes

>>34577687
Grow up, retard. No one cares until you have something to offer. Not just women as potential mates, but men as friends or as bystanders. Stop being so neurotic and chill the fuck out

>>34577921
Well according to women ill never have enough to offer, lucky me that they constantly increase the bar for what is needed to offer every 5-10 years so its always impossible to keep up with it.

>>34577835
duh, its why i just stick to sex workers. Regardless women made me this way, i wasnt always this way, if they want to complain about it maybe they should have treated me better when i was younger instead of rejecting me and being a bitch to me so much

>>34577904
It sickens me too but its the cards youre dealt. Any woman that is alive will only have sex with someone like me if i offer hundreds. Just the way it is. Im not going to bring one into my life if all shes going to do is viciously judge me every second we are together looking for little cracks she can judge me on and justify leaving. I hate paying for it but it is what it is given the current bullshit situation

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>>34577694
yo, so I went to the meet up and it was great. I met a few people, and two girls, one older woman from Venezuela and a very cute girl from Argentina (got her IG) and it was so much fun talking to her. Hopefully we link up again. I gave them a ride and they both greeted me with two kisses on the cheek.
Never give up.

>>34578391
>Regardless women made me this way

Grow the fuck up and stop foisting whatever bad experience you had on all women. You reallky want to get dominated for life by some schoo girls having been mean to you when you were a teenager?

>>34578779
This wasnt just in school but my adult life too. I was having negative experience with women all the way up to even last year. Ive been shown enough lessons when it comes to women. I have grown up, instead of bothering them, ive accepted its done and over now and in my 30s im not going to try to date or hit on any of them. I will live alone, and occasionally have hookers since that is the best i can get and should be grateful i can even afford it. It doesnt matter if its womens fault or my fault or no ones fault or both of our faults, the result is still the same. I will never know love, or affection from a woman, but thats how it was going to be anyways. Because i apparently lacked whatever women required to see me as human. Oh well, it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things.

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>>34569870
>have a raging foot fetish (believe me I wish I didn't)
>literally dont care about sex, just want feet
>I don't trust my dick or mouth anywhere near their genitals
>browse tryst
>handful of escorts that are obviously cops or scams (way too cheap and overembellished)
>everyone else is $400+
>email a few escorts asking about foot fetish, in respectful and coded language obviously
>literally only one escort responds and it's a 45yr old drug whore mom with disgusting feet
>was practically begging me to buy her a new phone because hers broke
>dox her and notice that her bf is an ex felon with assault charges
>nah

unless you live in a big city, it's a waste of time. rural areas fucking suck. I'm ugly and I've had more luck with fetlife

>>34579560
So for fetishes I usually bring it up when I'm there. I don't have a major foot fetish but when a girl has cute feet I'm going to suck on them. Like I was one time with this Latina and she had nice feet and while fucking her I sucked and licked on her toes. There wasn't any discussion I just did it. My main fetish is pee. That one I've had luck with twice and it was mainly because I think sometimes girls need to pee during sessions and are holding it so if they know they can let it go they will. Usually tho I have bad luck with it. Only had my cock peed on once.

I agree with everything else you are saying though. It's trash outside big cities. Like everything else I've talked about in this thread time three. I've never done fetlife, I feel like I might be too awkward and ugly even for that or that like many other regional sexual stuff(local reddit gonewild pages, grindr) it's looking for women(as in for three ways) or like hot fit dudes. Im probably too old now for the novelty of a "young guy" being a thing.

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>>34569870
Depends. I used Asian Massage Parlors. I get a roll in the hay with a moderately attractive Asian woman twice a month. It's good enough to keep me from doing something stupid, like getting into a relationship with some fat tattooed cunt out of desperation. I will never succumb to the fat-girl-plap meme.
>>34569895
>>34569903
This is why I go to AMPs. You have to shop around for decent spots but when you find a circle of parlors run by the same mamasan group, it's great. The girls I bang are all in their late 20's to early 30's and hot in comparison to what you get online (pic related is a rough approximation of what's normally on the menu). I never spend more than $260 and most of the time, average out at $200 flat. My eyes were awakened when I went to one and this thin spinner Asian with a coy smile came out, dressed in a nightclub dress with high-heels. I was like, "jackpot" and haven't looked back. GFE, BBBJs, Anal, DATY, it's all on the menu with this stable of women.
>>34573205
>Maybe i need to go to thailand or something.
Do it. Sex is so easy there, you don't even need to whoremonger if you're young. Hot women on "holiday" everywhere. It's not super expensive either; I spent around $800 for my ticket because I bought it in advance, and took around $2K with me. I didn't lack for anything while I was there and fucked plenty of backpacking chicks. It was awesome, too awesome in fact and ruined my desire for the cunts in the US who are prudish whores.

>>34569870
>Sex with prostitutes. Is it worth it?
It really depends on where you are:
LATAM: absolutely, the girls love to fuck and are shameless about it, so just choose based on looks and the personality/vibe you like. You'll tend to get more "girlfriend experience" than you bargained for
Europe: hit or miss, the standard service can be kind of aloof and businesslike so read reviews before booking, also beware/avoid of gypsies unless they have very trustworthy reviews
MENA: the girls are surprisingly good and passionate like LATAM, but the logistics can be very challenging to get girls to your room in some countries
ASIA: - South East Asia: the girls can be fun in bed, but have fake/performative personalities which makes things unsatisfying for me
Korea/Japan/etc: lots of hassle to get full service action if you're foreign and it won't be great if you do
USA: Lol, you're better off trying to game normal girls or making enough money to go somewhere else if you don't just want handjobs from Asian hags
Canada: Montreal is similar to Europe I guess, the two I met were very "professional" so you'll get what you pay for, but you can get better elsewhere and don't expect to find the standard sweet Quebec accent/personality with the working girls

>>34579655
Where i live i agree that AMPs are the cheapest to go to as far as sex. The problem is for me to get one that even offers L1 i have to drive 45 minutes to it. One that offers full service is about 2 and a half hours away in a different state. I havent been to the full service one mainly because money has been tight lately. The l1 one i went to all the women are ugly as fuck if im putting it lightly. Theres something perverted though about getting fingered and a handjob from a woman who is significantly older but regardless they usually never get naked and never really allow touching either. The older woman does allow me to touch and rub her boobs but the rest dont at all and will get pissed if you try.

>Do it. Sex is so easy there, you don't even need to whoremonger if you're young

Its been a debate for me. Issue is i have a lot of shit back home that makes it hard for me to just drop everything and solo travel. I also have extremely nosey family members that makes it hard for me to do any sexual sketchy stuff that isnt done in an hour or i can hide. Its complicated as hell. In fact ive never solo traveled before and the whole idea is extremely intimidating. Ive also started having this weird reaction where i get so nervous at the idea of sex now that i throw up. This has stopped me from seeing escorts for the past year because i keep getting sick when i think about it. Why this happened after seeing 12 and none of the others, idk. I think its because i might have gotten raped by a trans dom i saw who ignored my safeword entirely and wrecked my ass. It started happening around her even though at the time i thought i enjoyed it. My subconscious apparently didnt.

I really need to get my money up and start treating myself better. I dont think im going to survive the next decade if this is where im at in my early 30s.

>>34579828
I should add from what ive talked to with local mongerers full service at the AMPs that offer it is around $300-$350. Idk if you can negotiate lower but given that some of these dudes are experienced im going to assume no. I assume you live in cali or the west coast where its magnitudes cheaper.

When it comes to the midwest it is hell on earth if you didnt get a girl by 21. If you got a girl when you were in college or high school, your locked in for the next 20 years. You will not have any problems with affection or sex for the next 20 years. If you didnt get that, if it took you a while to self improve and now you are where you SHOULD have been at 21 at 25, well, youre fucked. Doubly fucked because the girls who are worth a shit dont date age gapped and further dont date age gapped unless you are doing 10x better than the guys who are younger, hotter, fitter and generally better than you around them constantly. So no house? No pussy. No good career? No pussy. In fact these dont even guarantee you, this just puts you at the table to be able to even pitch yourself without being shown the door fucking instantly. Everyone wants a young woman, and the older women who are single are single for a reason. Good.fucking.luck.

>>34577904
I want to bang a big booty latina like in the pornos. I wouldn't marry a pornstar nor imagine myself in any relationship with 100% of the pornstars I fap too, but I will 100% fuck them.

This is the same. It's not even like OF where you're paying for pics and get no action. Never understood that.

>>34579560
>$400
Dude, just by a plane ticket at that point or literally cross the border to Canada or Mexico.

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>>34569870
Never give women money idiot especially not for sex. When will you simps learn

>>34569895
>get to experience what was stolen from you by modernity bullshit.
Lol, elaborate.

>>34579794
>ASIA
Are you sure? The Chinese girls I've banged here have been great. 9/10 times they always give me their personal numbers or call me when their in town.

One got in trouble with her "pimp?" for giving me extra time for free. He walked in mid session raging kek. I got banned. I bump into the dude in the streets from time to time. He gets a heart attack when I say hi kek

>>34580964
You can no longer pick up chicks at the bar anymore and there are way too many cameras. If you're a little too drunk and you fuck up, you end up on social media.

When you're drunk you tend too not care and you flirt with anything that doesn't have a dick. I remember flirting with the bartender she told me to wait for her to finish her shift and then 360'd when her boss showed a few minutes before closing.

>>34580983
>You can no longer pick up chicks at the bar anymore
Maybe YOU can't, but trust me, it's still done.
It's a cope to talk about "modernity" stealing what is "rightfully yours" because you sound like you'd be striking out no matter what year/decade we were in.
But whatever, carry on with the whoremongering if it's what works for you.

>>34577687
oh tough luck man
some of these girls have kissed me passionately and we made out for a long while on the way to my place (yeah I bring them to my place, since it's legal here and they're all young I don't fear them being robbers, not even the oportunistic ones), before even money ever exchanging hands
some of those deals have gone south, we didn't fuck and I didn't pay and we still kissed some more when we said goodbye
as I said a while ago, I can get sex for free, but it's too much of a hassle and I've grown very lazy.
also the girls I should be fucking, girls around my age, are not attractive to me at all.

>>34581250
Glad to hear it works for you buddy. That's not everyone experience though buddy.
>Ha ha loser
Yes. That's the point.

>>34580963
In my experience they blow all of it. Like a majority of women aren't built mentally for this and just crash and burn within a decade. I keep track of some of the ones I've seen, Ive seen some of their venmos and cash apps on the table when they shower or whatever. They are making well above six figures a year and blow all of it on expensive trips, expensive cars, expensive drugs, expensive whatever the fuck. It's why you see them ten years later living in fucking poverty still. Some might know how to manage it but a majority don't. A young hoes brain assumes it will just be this way forever and ever. Just like normal women thinking they can fuck hot guys forever.

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>>34581259
Anyways, you should travel around, I know you said you don't have the money/time to do so but you should really organize a travel around
you don't need to go to thailand either, brazil and colombia are always there, closer and more culturally closer
prices are lower over there too, 50 bucks for a cute brazilian pussy doesn't sound bad uh
picrel is 250 reais which is around 50 bucks actually

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people here gave me a hard time because I paid niggers for sex and I could get it for free, but imagine being seen with a nigger on the street. In this case you are paying for the secrecy of your degeneracy

>>34581024
nta, but if you are picking up girls at a bar to fuck them, you retarded and probably enjoy the chase more than sex. Everything is so expensive now, that here in Europe, going out will easily cost you 25€ ATLEAST, and MAYBE you'll make out with a girl. An escort is 50/60€ here and you get it for sure.
If you are going out to find your wife, then sure, but you are looking for fornication, then escorts are the most rational option.

>>34581392
nta but yeah that's the thing
I've grown increasingly lazier as years go by and I'm wealthier so fucking pretty girls for money is the best option for me
but from time to time I still go out and find one that I can fuck for free just for the love of the sport
they never look as good as what I can pay for, the only couple that did I dated for years and didn't met at a bar, but the ones you get at bars... well, they're also on a quest to fill a bucketlist

>>34581392
>In this case you are paying for the secrecy of your degeneracy
I remember some 10 years ago we took a couple of model like paraguayan girls to dance and drink with a friend and I was half ashamed half the night
it was obvious they were there because we paid them, I think, but they were very pretty, incredible bodies and sex was guaranteed
the looks women gave to us, lol
nowadays I stopped caring to be honest, I've taken all kinds of girls to eat out, we've walked around the streets on the way to an ATM, etc etc
I don't care anymore, they're pretty and more than half my age, even if they were not paid by the hour most people would know they're there for the economic safety I bring them overall.

>>34581319
>picrel is 250 reais which is around 50 bucks actually
Brazil is great for mongering, but that ad is 99% chance fake. Skokka is a trash site, I wouldn't even look there when there's so many more legit options. Also, a pretty white girl showing her face and having zero tattoos in Brazil in 2026? for $50? really nigga

>>34581024
I know i would have done 10x better if you transported me like 10 years ago because i was still getting luck pre-covid. Not good luck but luck enough that i could maybe possibly make out with some girl instead of outright immediately and total rejection with zero hope of ever getting even so much as a handshake. It went from 5% to -50% in like ten years. Its gotten so bad ive even been rejected by escorts and hookers before, in fact i would say my rate of success with them, even with hundreds on the line, is still 50% because they are focusing on rich guys and hot guys and thats it. They beguilingly accept you if they need money. If you are in the bottom 30% of men, like i am, society fucking hates you. Like actually fucking hates you. And will trample over you as a holy ritual of purification hoping you kill yourself.

>>34581319
My problem isnt so much just money/time its also i have an extreme anxiety towards sex. I honestly hate doing this, ive always hated doing this, if things were easier dating wise i would never sleep around. I would be with one woman, and i would be raising a family with her. Except, thats been made impossible. So my two choices are either i keep seeing expensive hookers in strange places and messing with now third world dynamics in a foreign countries and risk my ass again and again or i learn to live as a monk(another thing i didnt want to do) and abstain from all physical contact. Not just sex, ALL physical contact. It pisses me off no other guy, not even the worst guys i know, have to do this, and the off the walls judgement ive been given is so extreme it makes me hate women. Like why make it literally impossible? Why kill all hope? This shit is more brutal than anything a man can do to a woman just short of brutal torture. Because in this reality you torture yourself. And you die slower and more painfully.

>>34581392
>eople here gave me a hard time because I paid niggers for sex and I could get it for free, but imagine being seen with a nigger on the street. In this case you are paying for the secrecy of your degeneracy

I lost my virginity to a black woman and i dont really regret it as far as losing it to an escort goes. They are built for sex, ive fucked 5 black girls in the past, they love it, they take it hard, every time ive fucked a black girl ive felt like im getting fucked back. I wake up sore the next morning, i have scratches across my back. In my experience they are good in bed. But i agree i would never date one. Their personalities are trash which is why i think they are so fun to fuck. They are pure sex.

This thread made me go see one, i am >>34582097 and i went and saw another escort today. After several months of not seeing one. I remembered why now. My dick doesnt work. It just doesnt. So on top of the nervousness it just doesnt get hard at all. Like ill watch porn, and it takes me like an hour to get erect and eventually cum. I am just not aroused anymore. So today i burned like $230 to basically show some random woman my soft cock that she couldnt get hard. We couldnt even fuck. She got pissed about it, said im a young guy i should be able to get hard.

The entire thing was embarrassing and further shows me that i should just stop seeing them. Imagine being naked in a room with a woman and not being able to get aroused or attracted to her. I sometimes think back to the exciting and fun times when i was in my early 20s before i had these problems but now i think its done. I am done spending money on them, this has shown me all i need to know. I am no longer a sexual being.

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>>34582113
>every time ive fucked a black girl ive felt like im getting fucked back.
>They are built for sex
>they love it
>they are so fun to fuck. They are pure sex.

you get it. I always go for the thicc ones, juicy ass and tits. They are sweet girls, they call me white chocolate, and one of them did this thing where she sucked my tongue while french kissing me. Her pussy was also wet...
they really are pure sex.

>>34582303
I'm OP. I saw one tonight. She was super cute. Blonde Brazilian and Petit. £120 of 1 hour. I coomed so hard. He ass was perfect. It's so fucking over for my wallet. I'll go fuck another tomorrow.

>>34582939
Glad it worked out for you. I feel like such a pathetic disheved old man after my meeting. I think this will be the event that finally makes me stop seeing them. I can't fuck them and it's a waste of money otherwise

>>34582303
how old are you? did you goon?
this problem was rare to see when I was a kid but now it seems to be very common, I'm reading a lot about it
or maybe people were too ashamed to talk about it in the past, IDK
anyways, do you think you did something to end up like this or do you think this is something external like microplastic in the balls or something like that?

>>34583036
I do jerk off yeah but i wouldnt say gooning. I have set up porn filters on my wifi and stuff now to avoid it just in case because i feel so humiliated. This has happened before actually, and it usually happens with younger women but not always. I would say half of the 12 ive seen ive struggled to cum from them or get fully hard. I think my testosterone is fucked up, thats probably why it didnt happen much when i was younger than 25. Post 25 ive been having dick problems. I am currently 30.

I would say this and the last four meetups of me struggling to get hard or aroused has made me look inwards to my health. Even if i did find a girl who likes me, if i cant get aroused by her because im unhealthy that relationship would fail. I just feel humiliated every time i am naked with a woman and this time was the worst. Usually i can get hard enough to fuck but this time and the last time i couldnt. This isnt normal for someone my age at all and today she even said that, she said she had never met someone as young as me fail to get it up.

>>34569870
>>34569895
Yeah, depends on where you are. Germany its like 50 Euro 15 mins or 70 euro 30 as a rule. More Romanians now (Gypsies, are a complete dice-roll rather than reliably good). I think its good if you aren't ready to settle down yet. The US is indeed the worst place ever. In Europe, Netherlands sucks and is overpriced, its moved onto Germany (also with its FKKs) and Belgium.

>>34569906
In UK use UKpunting, best site ever. UK sucks though, it was bad back then and its even worse now. Vivastreet is full of B&S. I used it when I was young and foolish and tbf I did meet some fucking gorgeous women, one of them was practically a model and I regret not going back, but given the touring nature of many may not have seen her anyway... Adultwork is okay and way better than VS, but the age verification kills it. I haven't punted in the UK for years now, flying to Germany is unironically better as you know you can hit a brothel and SEE what you're getting (but I respect that its not for everyone and many laufhauses suck).

Man that is sad, I had a couple lasses in Sunderland who I'd meet, one was amazing, the other sucked shit and had that 'attitude'. Sometimes you get women who whore themselves out yet refuse to be whores thinking they can get easy cash, they suck shit but what're you going to do? The laws on their side and they know it.

>>34583086
The more i think about this the more i just realized i needed to keep every penny i had. Maybe i have some more money laying around or i can sell some stuff because im currently unemployed. I couldnt afford to see an escort right now. I dont know why i did that. I really dont. I wasnt even horny. I just felt a compulsion to do so. Im looking over my finances and im going to get really really low money wise, like sub-$500 in savings level low, if i dont get a job in the next week. This is the lowest amount of money ive had since i was in high school over ten years ago. Fuck.

I remember a long time ago being told to be careful with escorts because one day you'll be broke, you'll spend all your money and be broke. And i laughed at them. I thought nah, its only twice a year, but that soon became more and more frequent. And worst of all i didnt even get a nut off this time. I just burned $230 i really needed for nothing.

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I sort of just want to visit an escort because I'm bored from working from home and seeing nobody lol
I was gonna go today, but the anxiety killed the horny

sometimes I get strong fomo
sometimes that fomo is justified, some other times it was just my desperation
whenever a newbie appears I like it if I'm one of the first clients if not the first one
and sometimes I barely have any money but I still want to taste the meat while it's fresh
sometimes these girls get a bad first experience and disappear back into the normies, and I regret not insisting in me being the first client, some other times they get offered to me for months on end, they're here to stay
and you can never know, I tried to think of ways to know which one is which, economy in their house, family story, how they look and behave in their instagram pictures and other media they send me, and you can never tell
some look like they're ready to fuck the entire city and are scaredy cats when they arrive to my place or only fuck once and realize it's not for them or the first dude was abusive or just crap at making them feel at ease and they just stop
I wish I had some indicator or some magic money maker and extra time in the week to always be ready when a newbie appears.

>>34583182
>In Europe, Netherlands sucks and is overpriced, its moved onto Germany (also with its FKKs) and Belgium
Spain and Portugal are solid too with some actual young local girls for reasonable prices. Athens has lots of hot Ukrainians and Russians for good prices, but the city is kind of a dump. Prague is gentrifying and dying but I did get a model tier Ukrainian there, Budapest is still grimy but it's all gypsies these days and they aren't properly managed like in Germany.

>>34584672
yeah I fucked a small time pornstar in Spain for the rate of a normal, albeit a tiny bit pricy, girl.
sex was normal, I've had better, but I couldn't say it was bad or that she didn't put effort
one less thing for the bucket list, but I wouldn't do it again
as you say a lot of locals besides the usual latinas and eastern europeans
if you like variety at a reasonable price I think spain is one of the better places
I say but I actually read somewhere that they changed their laws about prostitution so I don't know how are things over there right now

>>34584672
>hot Ukrainians and Russians for good prices
damn, here in portugal we get none of that, only huehue Brazilians with small tits...

As a tall white male I have three options
>racemix
>pay for nonwhite
>stay sexually frustrated and keep hating women

>>34584927
>not travelling to brazil and fuck pink pussies for 70 bucks
you put your dick cages yourselves and then complain about them

>>34582113
>every time ive fucked a black girl ive felt like im getting fucked back
wtf is even this statement

>>34584938
where to go in brazil to avoid getting robbed and/or murdered?

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>>34575354
>I only go for oral
Same I don't want to fuck whores usually.


Are asian massage parlors a good option for this? I just want the safest low effort methods without any sketchy BS where I can set up a few regulars.

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>>34585073
Have you not watched that Futurama episode where Finn and Zack get kidnapped by Amazonian women and are forced to fuck the whole tribe?

Imagine that expect it's one girl and your dick will be sore for days.

>>34584938
>paying a prostitute in Brasil

If you're can't get laid by an average brasileira, you must be giga chopped. I am a 5'7" white dude and I was very well received in Brasil.

>>34585187
>where to go in brazil to avoid getting robbed and/or murdered?
Rio in the tourist zone is fine in the day when most of the girls work and safe enough in busy areas at night, but if you're a huge pussy you can go to Florianopolis in Brazilian summer, it's basically first world tier safety, less girls but they tend to be hotter so it's fine

>>34585276
what part of I'm lazy didn't you understand
I went out a couple of weekends with my friends and both weekends I ended up making out with a brazilian chick, I'm 1,65 and mixed latino, so no "white pass", and I had my luck
but it's all too much of a hassle when I could just scroll on my phone, pick up a nice looking girl, giving her my hotel location, showering and waiting for her, then after fucking just going to bed
no dancing to horrible music, no yes from some girls no from some girls, no getting drunk (I don't like getting drunk anymore, it's not worth the headache next day), no paying entrance fee to a club, see the ambience and music is horrible, walking to another club, seeing most people is ugly, walking to another club, your friend brought a drunk chick with you guys and now you have to make a barrier so she can pee and no one sees her, etc etc
it's all too much of a hassle if what you want is just casual pussy.
I can get pussy for free
I don't want pussy for free, I have the money for that to not be a justified hassle

>>34584938
It’s not about the pussy being pink, which almost all races have. It’s about the chick being white.

>>34585443
>which almost all races have
shows how little you know about girls
my numbers are nearing 300 and let me tell you, pussy lips are only pink in white and mostly white women, like 90% white, 10% whatever else
the rest have brown lips, how brown depends on the ethnicity.
not posting here but quick google search would do you wonders

>>34585269
>Finn and Zack
Fry...

>>34585477
That’s not even the part of their body I’m focused on but their physical features like body shape, face shape, body odor, voice etc.

>>34569923
>Virginity isn't a real thing, merely a construct

It's real, but it's a state exclusive to women.

>>34585681
you don't need to focus on it just glance once to notice it
you're just trying to cover your limited experience with women

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>>34569870

>>34572597
That's the part I don't understand - pussy is free and in abundance out there such that you have to be pretty far gone to have to resort to paying for it..

>>34586535
it's easy of access
you can go out and hunt all night long
or you can call someone and wait at home
also sometimes hunts go south and you end up with a mid looking girl
when you pay you're guaranteed a cute girl
at least in my country.

>>34586502
you used this gif for the pedo thread
it's completely lost all meaning now

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>>34581276
Ahh please it goes both ways. Fucking new fags really think men are some unstoppable force where everything but them are at fault.

>>34569870
Seek repentance friend, whoever looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Give that money to charity, you'll feel better.

>>34571205
yeah, but it's a lot of work convincing a decent looking chick to let you cum on her soles. I just book my local escorts and get it down within the hour and back to my hobbies.

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>>34569870
I live in Mexico, border with Texas.

Here you can go to a parlor and for about $80 USD go get a massage, a blowjob without condom and obviously the sex (with protection) with girls in their 20s. Some are hideous, for sure. But I have always found one or two that are just delicious. You can also go to Night Clubs and spent about $200, but you will get the cream of the crop. Pic rel are some gals from one of the parlors.

Wtf

>>34586535
Pussy is not free or in abundance if you're not a chad. I'm not a chad. I'm a 5'10" rizzless chud. Getting pussy from a girl is difficult, and in terms of investment ends up being comparable to just getting a hooker, who will be both better looking and better at sex, and that's without all the games. Just a straightforward transaction.

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>>34588428
This.
I have avoided so much drama and bullshit from women because I know if I feel horny I can just go to a parlor and get back to my business. And I do get to fuck women who are way out of my league. I'm a 40 year old that wants women younger than 25. This is also the only way.

>>34588428
>>34588728
This is so depressing :(

>>34588764
Don't be sad. I'm content with this arrangement.

>>34569870
I understand the feeling. I've always opposed prostitution, I think it's bad for the people involved and for society, but I almost feel tempted.
Not even that much for the sex. I just wanted someone to hug, kiss, put their hand on my cheek, caress them, that sort of thing.

But I know how stupid that sounds. I also don't think you should do something so intimate and romantic with someone who doesn't even have romantic feelings for you.

>>34588774
I would kill a million people just to have that girl you posted as my wife.

>>34588911
I posted this girl >>34573515
Don't know if you meant her or >>34588728

>>34589103
That one >>34588728
Definitely that one

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>>34588428
>>34588728

Literally go to walmart and you will see literal pigs with hot as fuck women. You are honest to go enough for tons of women. Go get a proper life coach that isn't some tiktok Mansophere slopper and a few therapy sessions. You don't even need to work out. The entire reason I was able to get over my fear of hookers and APMs is because of therapy much to her dismay but I'm having a hell of a good time and have actually got real women to like me. It's not that simple but it's like riding a bike, once you learn it's easy peasy.

>>34588778
It’s a complete myth the whole idea that the women have no choice or are engaging in prostitution because they are junkies, many of them do it as it’s an all cash business and they don’t pay tax, others enjoy the work, some do it as they see it as providing a service to those who have social anxiety or disabilities.

For some, they create an alter ego, a completely different identity.

You can have more intimate sessions, you just have to request the GFE.

>>34585200
I have never been to a massage parlour, from what I have been told and have read. They all differ. Plus, many of them are so covert with what they provide, the only way to know is to ask. Which risks asking legit places and being banned.

>>34590378
Eh. I just wanted to do these things at least once in my life, but I'm aware it's ridiculous.
Having to pay someone to do that sort of thing is a bit shameful and awkward.

>>34590505
I completely understand that way of thinking as that’s how I felt. Then, once I had crossed the threshold, I didn’t feel any shame. I felt awkward to begin with, but the woman I saw was a true professional, attentive to my nerves which she quickly put at ease, after the act, I felt fantastic. It was all pleasure.

I was married for over ten years, even that still had awkwardness and just rubbish feelings.

At the brothel (if it’s a decent one) they want you to have a phenomenal time, so you go back. I walked in feeling awkward and meek, I sauntered out feeling like a King.

>>34571724
I don't care about any of this but if I can buy 100 inches of ass for 400 bucks I'm in and no amount of maulding or guys trying to worry about my dick and the status of my dick or if I'm truly a Chad or if I am not gay or whatever is going to stop me from getting aids by dunking my face in 100 inches of ass then I will bug chase fucking closeted Republican pedos for the rest of my days

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I'm glad for prostitution. It's always nice to know that you have the OPTION available of fucking a stranger at a moment's whim. And every year we are getting older but the girls in those business cycle back to "fresh produce".

>>34572594
So, what prevents you from becoming friends with them or dating them?

>>34591013
I'm friends with many, I've helped a couple with stuff that is not money related like with some test they had or a recommendation for a good doctor since I know so many
I wouldn't date an escort. They promise they'll leave all of this behind but it's rarely done.
Some friends had very sour experiences with this and I tried making a sugar baby something more and in both cases it ended up being the same: you find out she's getting creampied by other dudes despite her telling you she would quit if you two tried something more serious

>>34591439
>some test they had
I meant I helped them study for exams

>>34590117
>walmart
>hot as fuck women
the rest of your post can safely be ignored

>>34573515
Why do whores have short hair.

>>34573805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_PyiVW0Ylw

>>34573805
>Sometimes I do wonder if that's ever going to come back to me
It will, on your deathbed

what the fuck

>>34569906
>>34569914
These bitches are plastic as fuck. How would you be willing to pay them a penny? Maybe Bre and Ashley because fat asses but I guarantee they look worse in person

>>34593625
People looking for escorts aren't usually looking for the mother to their children and life-partner, but a hot, sexy girl with an at least "ok" face (obviously, preferably beautiful) to ravage.

>>34569870
>Sex with prostitutes. Is it worth it?
NO

>>34592413
Its already coming back to me today whenever i look at my bank account. I left my parents house with close to $8k in savings and i failed to grow it in ten years and blew almost all of it. I am basically starting over financially at 30 when i had such a good head start at 19. Its insane and i regret all of it.

>>34596506
it's less expensive than dating a woman for years and marrying her out of your own pocket.

Sadly my parents were retarded. Spent all their money on useless home renovations and begged my for money at 18 leaving me semi-trapped for a ling time.

>>34569895
This is actually a fascinating post, tells you something about the supply and demand in the world's oldest industry

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>>34569870
>fucked a 9/10 last week
>hmm, do I have an UTI or something right now?
>got worried, go to doc
>my doc is a cute woman, we were on good terms
>tell her I want to do tests, "new girlfriend", etc
image related.

I had nothing, all negative.

>>34597521
doc jealous it wasn't her

>>34597521
why does she care. She already has a boyfriend and you aren't gonna fuck her. Just tell her to checkout you cock and see if it's okay and bigger than her husband's.

>>34597385
>it's less expensive than dating a woman for years and marrying her out of your own pocket.

I hear this sentiment a lot yet i see men do it even in countries where prostitution isnt illegal and extremely expensive. There must be a reason why guys do it. Like i can look back and say i saved money. And in exchange i missed out possibly on the literal POINT of life. Every single study ive seen on this shows relationships are directly tied to life satisfaction. Every time i talk to some old person they are reflecting on the relationships in their lives, their kids, their wife, their whatever. Cool, i saved money, but i missed out on having a relationship, i missed out on dates, i missed out on losing my virginity with another virgin(had the chance and blew it), i missed out on normal sex with a regular woman, i missed out on love, i missed out on everything involving human contact to the point where i dehumanized myself so badly i no longer can get aroused by a woman irl because i had to cope so hard with porn and in the end this lifestyle will probably kill me earlier on average im not even kidding. People in happy relationships live like a full two decades longer on average, but hey, i saved.money.apparently.

This is a pathetic way to live and again, it will kill me early. But its all done now. I have to live with it.

>>34598527
It was worth it in the oast but not now. The bar to impress or find a woman is significantly higher thanks to cost of living, unrealistic expectations by women and rise in misandry.

The average woman wants the finish line without contributing to it. The concept that you marry a dude and grow your wealth together is lost on them. Also a large number of them have done OF.

>>34598527
You don't need a woman to have a complete life you dingus. Imagine defining you value as how much pussy you put your cock in.

You sleep with prostitutes because your hormones tell you to. It's not a choice for dude, just like it's not much of a choice for women to be sane during their period. The difference is that we are like that 24/7 until we cum and it lasts a few hours.

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I will say this: seeing escorts has dampened my desire for a woman. The reason we, men, chase women and put up with their nonsense is largely because only they can provide sex, a carnal desire. Without that, I'm not inclined to look for one. This is, of course, amplified because of the modern dating scene, which lowers the reward:effort ratio leading to an unfavorable comparison to escorts (if you're not a chad). It also is much more straight forward and honest; escorts lay the underlying transaction bare. No playing mind games or pretending to care about women stuff just so she will let me sex her.
Is this a good or bad thing? I don't know. Maybe I will wake up one day a 40 or 50 year old man and feel hollow. But in the moment, it is hard to convince me to go through the extreme effort required to look for a girl I am compatible with, court her etc., when I could just pay an escort a couple hundred bucks. What is more, I know by the time women are in their 40s, they often "give out" sex very sparingly, if at all. What am I supposed to do then? Just cope and seethe? Men have strong sex drives for virtually our entire lives. This arrangement leaves me in complete control for as long as I want it.
Obviously I understand the appeal of a partner is not just sex. Having a girl that cares about you, you cuddle with, share a life, start a family etc.. However it would be a lie if we said that wasn't strongly tied to that. If a manic pixie dream girl walked into my life, then probably it would be worth it. But otherwise, as I stand now, it does not feel worthwhile compared to escorts.
Just some thoughts.

>>34598560
Oh i agree its harder. Yet somehow, where i live, a vast and i mean vast majority of men are able to do it regardless. I know one guy who has been single his whole life like me, the rest, even the dumbest ugliest dude i know all have had girlfriends and families and whatever else. Those factors do make it harder but i feel like for women its performative. They say it but dont actually do it when push comes to shove. Regardless i am fucked.

>>34598564
>You don't need a woman to have a complete life you dingus. Imagine defining you value as how much pussy you put your cock in.

Massive reduction in what i am even talking about but ok.

>You sleep with prostitutes because your hormones tell you to

I used to, im done with it because now i am flat broke riding a razor edge in savings. And like i talked about here >>34583472 i cant even get hard for women anymore. In my early 20s i had to give up on love. In my early 30s i am now giving up on sex. Me and women are eternally separated and i feel like with it i have separated what makes one human.

>>34599076
and before i hear the sub-90 iq take of "oh you think a womans approval is what makes you human" thats not what im talking about. Empathy, selflessness, love, connection. Things that you are forced to do when you are in a relationship. Long term planning, planning for a future, challenging yourself, self improvement, again all things that relationships force and bring. Working, fucking hooker, and living a sort of transient life of no greater goals makes me feel useless and worthless rightfully. This is the type of stuff that makes people drop out of society. I wish i could.

>>34569870
YES. I recommend you to visit prostitutes. You can find them on the internet. You come, you pay and you might get what you want. It's easy to check whether it's worth it. Just compare how much you will get emotionally and how much you will lose in terms of money. If you're a virgin, then I think losing virginity should be your life goal and it is worth all the money of the world!

>>34597434
>tells you something about the supply and demand in the world's oldest industry
Almost everything he said only applies to the US, sure the supply/demand is getting worse just about everywhere but the US is a special unique horror show of a market and not worth dealing with at all if you can travel

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>>34598796
how do you verify the tryst girls are legit and not scammers or sting ops?

>>34599638
I use theeroticreview (TER) to check if they have reviews. Something else you can do is google the phone-number/email they put, and see if there are other ads and reviews on other sites (like eccie, theotherboard). That's really the most reliable, alongside having their own website for booking.
Social media presence is a nice bonus, and if they have an onlyfans it's reassuring that the girl is real, but beware of girls that just try to lure you into onlyfans to suck some of your money.
For me personally, I don't take the risk unless I'm essentially certain the provider is legit.

>>34599649
thanks my nigga

>>34569870
Yes, do it.

Hookers on the street? No.
Girls on tinder / OF who do sex for pay? Better option, just be careful.
I knew a girl from highschool who had an OF, saw a post implying she'd do sex for money, did it, thoroughly enjoyed it, did it several more times. Might do it again. Your milage may vary

bumpity bump

i cant even jerk off without feeling extreme guilt. i cant imagine if i banged a prositute