>Waiting until marriage
>Is it retarded?
Yes absolutely 100%

the only concern I can think of is "sexual compatiblity." but think about it, if two people can remain celibate for that long then its very likely they have matching libidos to be able to achieve that. if not then similar coping mechanisms. that might be a non-issue.

>>34597636
It's mostly a religious viewpoint and a bit of a myth. There is no real evidence that waiting for marriage is a panacea. The studies that "prove" this are flawed in various ways and also openly acknowledge that communication has a far greater effect on relationship satisfaction than waiting for marriage.

>>34597655
>communication has a far greater effect on relationship satisfaction than waiting for marriage
yeah what this nigger said communicate with your bitch nigga and fuck every one of her nasty holes nigga

>>34597655
i like the idea of waiting for marriage because its kind of a signal that the person youre dating is high quality. they believe in something in to stick to it their entire lives and ignore all windows to temptation. a relationship with someone like that is less likely to end in divorce because theyre not swayed easily.

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>>34597685
It's a nice idea, but you're filtering out 95%+ of women by doing so. Men already have the disadvantage in dating as it is and setting such a severe filter for yourself guarantees inceldom.

>>34597690
>but you're filtering out 95%+ of women by doing so
thats the point. most women are not worth dating. why do you think most marriages end up in divorce? id rather date someone that has high standards for themselves

>>34597690
That still leaves you with 200 million.
And you only need one.
New virgins are born every single day, don't settle.

>>34597636
>Is it retarded?
Yes. You don't want to wait until after you're married to someone to find out that the two of you aren't sexually compatible.

>inb4 Anyone can be compatible if you're considerate.
No. This is the kind of thing that sounds plausible if you've never actually had sex, but it simply isn't true.

>>34597701
Communication has a greater impact on marriage satisfaction, it's proven by studies.
>>34597709
>And you only need one.
Not really, because virgins also cheat and divorce.
Every hoe started as a virgin, which indicates that even if you find a virgin she might end up being a hoe.
>New virgins are born every single day, don't settle.
Even female virgins don't want virgin men, they prefer experienced men.

>>34597636
>How likely is it to find a girl that believes in no sex before marriage?
It's quite easy. The problem is that they won't want any sex after marriage either. Guaranteed dead bedroom for life.

>>34597636
I don't think it's retarded, but I'm a Christian.
You're not very likely to meet anyone but religious women who will want to wait until marriage for sex. You're also not likely to meet many Christians who will wait until marriage, honestly.

>>34597636
In concept no it's not retarded and it lowers the chances of divorce and infidelity

In practice you're going to have a hard time finding a woman to abide by it. Its pretty much a Unicorn nowadays since most women are hypersexualized the moment they get a smartphone. Its a damn shame and not spoken about as much as it should be.

>>34597685
>i like the idea of waiting for marriage because its kind of a signal that the person youre dating is high quality
Lolwut no it's not.

>>34598425
Zoomers are having less sex and lose their virginities later than previous generations. You are objectively incorrect.

>>34598437
You disingenuously fail to mention this only applies to men and there is a great imbalance of sexual encounters between men and women. Women are having as much casual sex as Millennial Women did the only difference being its mostly with the top 20% of men

>>34598447
Why do you post lies on the internet? There are actually more sexless women than men on the internet. Incelism is based on lying.

>>34598461
>Incelism is based on lying.
Back to r*ddit you go foid

>>34598465
This is why you are a kissless virgin. Being an angry incel cultist is not attractive. You were lied to and that is why you decided to become an incel, because you believed the lies you were told.

>>34597636
People used to get married at 11-15. Puberty starts at 11-15.
"Wait until marriage" didn't mean wait and suffer for 20 years, it meant "wait until next month for the wedding".

>>34598486
oh shit

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>>34597636
No, God will probably bless your marriage if you do (even disregarding practical stuff like pair-bonding, not comparing you to her ex, etc). Most people don't wait until marriage and the divorce rate is already something like 1/2 marriages.

>>34598486
Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius mentioned he was grateful that he waited until marriage in Meditations (picrel), he was only married at about 24. Now this man was not a Christian, but a pagan, so it seems like this was common wisdom back then. Now personally, I do not want to reap the rewards of a 20th century retarded hippie, so I will not practice the lifestyle of one.
>"people got marred at 11-15" (no era or location given)
sounds like retarded cope

>>34597636
>Sophie Rain who makes millions making content but has apparently never had sex
yup. why would she lie about her sexual history? just for all the simp money? NONSENSE

>>34598437
>our generation is the most chaste in recent history
every day is a blessing. all glory to God.

>>34599170
Based incel gooners

>>34597715
>dead bedroom
?? just rape her

>>34597636
>Is it retarded?
Depends on your goals. If you value stability and happiness of marriage, then it's demonstrably beneficial, even after controlling for religion. And if you value exclusivity, then it's by far the most effective and repeatable means available.
If you think marriage is a spook only worth a tax break, and think sexual freedom is more important than anything, well, sure, it's kind of retarded to commit to a moral framework designed for the exact opposite.

>How likely is it to find a girl that believes in no sex before marriage?
In the US, iirc, it's about 1 in 25 now. But this highly depends on location and religiosity. However, many people don't wait not because they don't resonate with the reasons for waiting, but because they have never seriously considered the possibility. If they weren't raised in a community which emphasized it (which tends to be the religious nowadays), it wouldn't occur to most to question what they see everyone else doing, but they can easily be shown the example with some patience.
About 1 in 5 women marry their first partner, but have sex outside of marriage. Most of these probably just got "lucky", but it also includes those who wait extended periods before they feel comfortable getting intimate, for various reasons. All told, your dating pool is about 10% of women, if you include women who aren't waiting but are potentially open to doing so (and are able).


>>34597655
>There is no real evidence that waiting for marriage is a panacea
There's a big middle ground between "panacea" and "retarded". Being philosophically appealing and completely neutral/irrelevant to outcome would already be enough to justify it to people. Being moderately beneficial is just a bonus.

>>34598486
That's nonsense. Look up "Western European marriage pattern".

>>34597636
It's all a show. There's a good chance Sophie Rain is on all fours right now getting fucked by some chad.

Whatever you do in life, do it because it aligns with your values, not because you expect a payoff. Life will let you down if you're only in it for the reward.

>>34597636
>Apparently theres an OnlyFans creator named Sophie Rain who makes millions making content but has apparently never had sex.
I highly doubt that. Her being a "virgin" makes her more appealing to men, especially the type of men that subscribe to her only fans.
>How likely is it to find a girl that believes in no sex before marriage?
It is definitely possible, but not super likely. I remember reading a statistic somewhere that roughly 5% of marriages were virginal. I think that factored in the man being a virgin too, but regardless, I would estimate the chances of finding a girl like that to be between 5-10%. It also heavily depends on the types of circles you're dating in, if you meet a super religious girl in church I'm sure the chances go up quite significantly.

>>34597636
Basically, you want the girl to be a virgin, avoiding higher divorce rates (women cannot pair-bond well if they have higher body counts) and emotional trauma that comes with her past. I've seen girls, in my own family too, lash out at other men simply because they felt mistreated by their bfs. They blame the entire male gender when something goes wrong with one men they dated. To avoid this, it's better to date younger and ultimately marry her in her early 20s (science agrees as well as this is peak fertility).

>>34603629
>>How likely is it to find a girl that believes in no sex before marriage?
>It is definitely possible, but not super likely.

It's actually far more likely than most think. The reason there are few virgins until marriage now is not because promiscuity is higher ---- it's because the average age to marry is nearing 30 now. It was closer to 20 a few decades ago. Considering that, you want to aim younger + target the right circles (religious circles are a good choice) to find a virgin. It's not hard at all, really. It's like someone saying it's impossible to find a jewish girl because there are so few jews. it's easy for a jew to marry another jew --- they go to a synagogue, some jewish organization, or even israel, and they can find the 0.002% of jews that exist

>>34597636
You know women lie, right anon?