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>>34598554
Ever since the covid hoax I stopped interacting with the goyim cattle. I just look through them and pretend they don't exist. I don't even greet them or acknowledge their presence. I'm not staring either, I'm just looking straight through them as if they weren't there.
My life has significantly improved. I am at peace

>>34598554
It's actually really simple, it works exactly like with men. Idk why you're trying to be witty or amusing or why you're afraid of them, you definitely should work on that
Just don't say you need to scratch your balls or something like that
And practice initiating conversations with men first, try to not become gay though

>>34598554
Haha it's hilarious because I used to think and write exactly like you.
The excitement and the desire was so massive that I couldn't think of any other way than "full blown I want to fuck you right now" or completely avoiding them.
Consider that you are also extremely childish in the way you percieve it: WAAAAAAHHHH I'M NOT GETTING WHAT I WANT SO I'M MAD AND SAD BECAUSE I DESERVE IT AND I'M THROWING A HISSY FIT WAAAAHH!

here's the reality that I've learned and that you need to learn to if you want to get girls: they don't owe you nothing. Literally nothing. You must talk to them not like you want something from them (even though YOU REALLY WANT SOMETHING FROM THEM AND IT'S ONLY 1 THING), but like they're actually interesting to you.
And to me, women weren't interesting, I thought they were just lesser humans at one point. But then you come to find that some women are actually interesting, and it's often not even about their interests but about how they act in society and towards me, I can really appreciate nice people who hold up good ideals regarding how kindly they treat others and how they treasure good relationships.

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In any case, the amount of growing you have to do is enormous. At this point it doesn't even start with girls, it starts with getting rid of social anxiety. Get on meetup.com and start doing things for YOURSELF, ALONE. go to events ALONE. This builds a sense of self, it is hard. It forces you to answer the question "who am I?" And sometimes you don't like the answer because you feel like you're just a stump standing there not knowing what to say, no redeeming qualities what so ever just a boring husk of a person who has nothing to talk about.
But you'll come to see that through being that boring person, you'll still find people who treat you favorably, shortly you'll see people treating you a certain way and you'll say oh I really liked that. And then next meetings you'll gravitate towards such people and learn how to identify them, and also how to speak with people who previously you didn't think you'd get along with.

I'm giving you quite a long effort post that you probably don't deserve because you'll gloss over it like the selfish nigger that you are, but I can tell you that I was you just a few years ago, and especially when I was a teenager.
You need that self growth, what does it mean? It means that you love yourself, that you see yourself as worthy, that you care about yourself. And you clearly don't care about yourself. You think you do, but you don't.
And like me, you probably have a lot of trauma around females. I'm self conscious and afraid every time I'm next to a female, like I'm being judged, and it makes me turn either performative or closed off - this is my own issue that I've been working on, it has nothing to do with the girls. It could even be a random girl sitting next to me on the train.
You are likely the same, and this is an "us" problem that can only be solved by repeated exposure to women. Preferably not in a romantic context to begin with, but as humans. So, get on that meetup boy. Good luck

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>>34598681
if he doesn’t appreciate you and your effort just know that i do.

>>34598694
Thank you man, I'm glad I could help somebody, means a lot to me that you let me know.

>>34598676
>>34598681
OP here, thank you and no, I'm not a selfish asshole.
I know the freeze. Heard somewhere, years ago, about the meaning of the myth of the Medusa.
Why she petrifies men is because she is THE woman. She is "woman" as if she is the dark when you fear it.
She turns you vulnerable and makes you acknowledge every single inadequacy that you have, with nothing else but her gaze, her acknowledgement that you exist.
I don't and have never blamed anyone else for my failings. It is all my fault, the consequences of my choices that made me who I am.

Thought about going to things by myself but knowing that I'll be the odd one out, even somewhere that will filled with nothing but the odd ones out, makes me give up.
At the core of it all, I am a coward and courage is the thing I run away from the most, besides women.
Ironically, I have a much easier time talking to older women (still can't initiate, though) and I assume that is because I want nothing from them, like you said.

>>34598554
>I can't possibly have anything amusing or witty to say.
Try talking about music like Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze and Kaoru Abe.

>>34598756
That does not work in my country.

>>34598742
That's really honest reflection OP, and a really nice story about Medusa, I didn't know that that's how she originally petrified men, it honestly makes so much sense.
I live a lot of my life through the lens of the other women and what they think about me.

I'm like you dude, I try not to blame others, I know that I've arrived at where I'm at thanks to me, I even reached some suicidal ideation a couple months ago and I am way too nice, it didn't even phase me, I thought - I reached this point, it is unfortunate, but it's just not for me. Circumstances led me to this point, but I don't feel resentment. So I understand you.

I know your fear man. I know it very deeply, we are even more alike than I assumed before now that you mentioned it because we have the exact same fear, and let me spell it out for you - we are afraid of women who we're attracted to.
That's the real fear. Those are the women who make us feel self conscious, inadequate, they are the source of fear but can also be the source of comfort and feeling like you're being seen, if you manage to get close with one.

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I had your fear 2 years ago when my ex of 5 years cheated on me and I was left alone. Then I went on meetup, got over my fear of meeting strangers, started lame af and had zero ZERO self-worth, the only time I knew worth is when OTHERS treated me well and told me how fun of a guy I am to be around. Long story short I eventually reached a point where I can now go to an event alone or enter a room of people who I don't know - and I know that I'll be fine and have fun. This is an indication that I'm comfortable with ME now. I know that I'm there - and I can rely on myself to still have fun.
Ofcourse it's better to not be alone, but to be able to know that you don't NEED others to feel adequate, that's the biggest indicator of "you've grown".
So by all means dude, I started with hiking meetups off meetup.com, and then ttrpg group meetups, board game nights, meaningful conversation evenings, bar/social meetups, pickics and dinners with strangers, then I branched out into hobbies, singing, dancing, acting, medieval/fantasy festivals, all the things that I'm afraid of I did them. That's self growth. I'm a better person today thanks to that. And I've lost a lot of weight doing all those hikes, and recently dating apps even started to work for me after a long period of swearing off them and trying to get girls irl but back then I was too scared so nothing worked IRL. I know the guilt that comes with being afraid, you're fully aware that you're scared and that it's your fear and subsequent avoidance that separate you from having a truly good-feeling, well-lived life. All I can do is share with you that I was you, and I've grown tremendously over the last 2 years, entirely by myself. If I could do it as a now-30-years-old chud, you can do it my friend. Best of luck again

>>34598757
Also I wasn't that guy who just diarrhea spilled music on you, but now I'm curious, what's your country? I'm in NL. Expat here

>>34598676
you type like a really obnoxious redditor, but from the size of your comments, it seems you really wanted to help OP

>>34598763
Thanks for the kind words.
I've been gathering will to go on a hike with my dog but the idea to search for a group of people that just gets together for their dogs to play around flashed my head and I'll try that. I am WAY more cheerful and sociable when I'm with him. Guess his happy go lucky energy rubs a little on me and lets me let go a little bit.

You're right about the women I'm attracted to being the one who freezes me but it is a weird interaction because, internally, I'm extremely self-conscious, wary that they are looking at me but externally, I keep a nonchalant, even arrogant expression, often looking down at them. At least, that's what they told me at work. To the point that they lower their head and avert my gaze.
It's fucking crazy. Inside I'm begging for a crumb of pussy, for even one of them to say more than "hi", yet I'm afraid to open my mouth and seem like a fool and on their side, they are afraid of me.

I'm in Brazil, native.

>>34598554
>I've had one girlfriend
Okay faggot next time write this in the first line so i don't bother reading the rest

>>34598554
It sounds like you just need to be in a relationship with a dominant girl who takes control, the lead. That's pretty rare but it is a type of girl that naturally fits your submissive weak feminine self.

Sun

>>34599269
Optimally, yeah, dominant in the streets, submissive in the sheets. That would be best.

>>34598874
Hey man, thanks again. It sounds like masking, honestly I do that too. I did it way more when I was younger. Tough guy look. It comes from a place of hurt. That anger at them or even dismissal of them.
You're full on living in your head, hoping for something to happen, while projecting "Don't talk to me", many men fall for the same trap, I did too.
It will help to go on that hike, and just talk to people. Anyone. Make friends without the ulterior motive of getting a girlfriend. And do that over and over.
To what end? - to the goal of trusting strangers, and physically learning how to start and hold a conversation, and to identify different people, see who finds you interesting and who you find interesting, It's super valuable. It's lonely because you go back home alone, but It's valuable.
Keep that up for a period, I would say go for several months, until you know that you are not anxious anymore to go to events. It is hard. I had my grandma on the line the first event I went to, I was terrified, she told me I'm doing something good. I'm now about 100 events later, I'm not terrified, I'm excited. I know that the events will be fun. I see the world as my oyster and I'm not afraid to pick an event and GO. Knowing that no matter who is there (I used to be VERY picky who's going somewhere) - I will have fun.

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Maybe you'll relate:
I used to be the type of guy to get really upset or scared when someone was added to our group when we went out for something, I just knew it changes the dynamic and I didn't want to deal with this. Especially true if they added a hot girl, or if the outing was supposed to be just me and a hot girl and she added a guy.
I have let that go entirely, honestly I don't care who's coming nowadays. I finally can express a "People are people" attitude and just try to enjoy them in the moment, without thinking much of it.
And It's from this freedom, from this trust in strangers and assumption that they just want to have fun and not there to bother you, and not worrying about dynamics, that true growth and happiness comes from.
And I'm not saying that retards don't exist, if you've had a bad experience with someone it is fair to reconsider your options, but don't let no one stop you who you don't know yet.

I mean this - you never, ever know what's going to happen.
Lamest looking indian could show up and you'll have a great time.
More people = more better. Go.
Your country is beautiful, your people are beautiful, I hope you get a face full of ass soon enough.