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I am intimidated by relational and possibly sexual experience that most women probably have. I am 32 and prefer to date very close to my age. Basically the highest I'd go is 34 and lowest is 28. Anyway, I have next to no experience with dating, relationships or sex and I am male. I get the feeling that most women in the age range I want date have tons and tons and tons of experience by this point. I also perceive that women have a easier time engaging with these facets of life so their experience eclipses mine. I am not really self conscious about how many men they may or may not have been with. I am just self conscious about the massive gap in my experience compared to them. I know most women age 30 are probably fucking and have been fucking for probably close to 15 years. So in my mind, I have to somehow be skilled enough(not just with sex) to get a woman to like me. I have very very poor dating skills but I can't improve because I rarely get dates and have been forced to use online dating even though it doesn't work for me. I didn't get my fist kiss until I was 30. So what can I do? To put it simply, I feel like a guppy fish swimming in a pool of veteran sharks. Some of these women have been dating consistently since they were teenagers. I wasn't so lucky. then to make matters worse, a buddy of mine told me that most women don't even prefer to have the higher amount of experience. If I did meet a woman and she finds that she is more experienced, she might resent me because her being more experienced would make her feel slutty or something. But I don't feel that way. Or rather, I wouldn't think of it that way.
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>>34599124
women get desperate at 30, show a little bit of backbone, they like that
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>>34599124
>If I did meet a woman and she finds that she is more experienced, she might resent me because her being more experienced would make her feel slutty or something. But I don't feel that way. Or rather, I wouldn't think of it that way.
>i'm such a cuck I'm worried about her thinking I'm not enough of a doormat and rejecting me
come on dude. grow a pair
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>>34599124
women over 30 can provide very little, don't be effeminate, earn a decent amount, and they'll settle for you very happily
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>>34599133
that's simply not true
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>>34599124
> I didn't get my fist kiss until I was 30
Okay, normie
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>>34599133
I know women over thirty with 4 kids who still get men doing crazy shit for them. Don't know how.
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>>34599124
If the sex concerns you, tell her you prefer to take things slow, and work up to it gradually. Don't be afraid to ask her what she likes: every woman is different, and what works well on one won't on another, so this is a perfectly reasonable question. Experiment; see what gets a good reaction.

As far as dating experience is concerned, you're not going to get it except by dating. The main things you'll need is to attract women enough to get a date are to appear solvent and not obviously mentally ill, to take a bit of care with grooming, to either be confident or to be able to simulate confidence convincingly, and to be entertaining company. Anything else can be compensated for, but not those.
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>>34599186
simulate confidence? So just be a faker?
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>>34599199
>simulate confidence? So just be a faker?
Yes. It's an essential skill in life generally, and in dating in particular. You'll find that once you learn how to fake confidence, people react to you so much more positively that you very quickly gain some real confidence and don't need to fake it much any more.
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>>34599124
>dating 30+ women
Must be insane, most look bad at 20, at 30 or 35 they look terrible and after only a decade they will look significantly worse. No thanks.
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>>34599245
Am I doomed if I dont want to fake what I dont have?
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As for your fear that a woman will think you judge her, I would not worry if you truly don't. Experienced women already know that some men judge and some don't and their own experience level is pretty unrelated (after all, plenty of very experienced men still judge women harshly for having sex). If she gets the vibe you don't judge she probably will not have any issues believing you.

I also think it is useful to talk back and try to put your own thoughts into perspective. Like yeah okay a woman might have been sexually active for fifteen years. So she lost her virginity as a teenager to a probably also teenage bf - I can guarantee you that this was not amazing sex for any reason other than hormones. If she had a few long term relationships, she has only ever had sex with a few partners and you have no idea how often those wanted to have sex or how skilled they were. If she had lots of casual sex, realize it is rare for women to have a hook up that is actually very physically satisfying. Many one night stands are awkward fumbly sex between two drunk people that don't know each other's bodies or preferences and are not that comfortable with one another deep down.

You are not wrong that you will be inexperienced compared to many, but there is no point in dreaming up this fantastic sexual walhalla past. Most women simply do not have sex that amazing especially not when young. Being very in love with a partner and super eager to please them already gives you a huge upper hand over other men that cared less or paid less attention. Being mutually in love adds a whole emotional level of electricity that is largely totally unrelated to actual skill level or the smoothness of proceedings.

Basically your fear is not 100% unfounded and irrational but like most fears it is a steroid version of what you will probably encounter at worst in real life.
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>>34599728
>Am I doomed if I dont want to fake what I dont have?
If you don't want to fake confidence then yes, you are doomed. 100%. There is literally nothing that is more attractive than confidence (or a convincing simulation of it) and literally nothing that is more actively unattractive than the lack of it.
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>>34599124
>I am intimidated by relational and possibly sexual experience that most women probably have.
Go to a prostitute ffs.
You'll realise how "meh" sex is.
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>>34599747
Sex with a person you love is incredible
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>>34599274
Tf you on about. Women in their thirties look so good. Men on the other hand... Bald, out of shape, yellow teeth, don't wipe their butts, smelly, don't clean their home (live like bums)
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I had my first sex at 26, met my wife at 27. in between, was a period of trying to date roasties from tinder and OkCupid. my wife was the only one where there was chemistry and she has never been on any dating app whatsoever. in fact, she only had one bf before and that guy cheated on her (and was an overall loser from what I can tell).

All those anons suggesting it is a you problem and that you should just get used to roasties, are wrong. things are in fact easier with a woman who is not a roastie. someone who has not had hundreds of sexual and dozens of relationship partners and evaluates your performance based on the past. someone who does not have a circle of friends who would easily provide a replacement dick if there happened to be an argument in your relationship. and who talk badly about you because they actively want to sabotage your relationship to feel better about their own ones.

just because a 30 year old roastie was "humbled" by having been pumped and dumped countless of times, does not mean she would happily accept you. you would always be a reminder that she failed with a Chad - and would happily try it with hi again if he came along. the entire marriage would be a financial necessity and the hate towards you would grow year by year. expect dead bedroom by the time she is finished with kids. in fact, she might even resent the kids because they are not from Chad and take them away from you only for the child support.

Don't do this to yourself and your future kids.
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>>34599780
>All those anons suggesting it is a you problem and that you should just get used to roasties, are wrong.
The issue is if OP wants to date women 28-34 with very little sexual experience it is not just "roasties" he can't date, any woman who's been in long term relationships is also out because she will still have had years of sexual experience.
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>>34599804
no, here you are being too strict. in relationships, sexual experience is oftentimes the same and there is only that much that you can do to spice things up without including other people (cheating, cuckolding, threesomes).

most women are not even that much into a specific technique and cannot tell how big a dick is from the feel. they get more stimulated from thoughts rather than actual penetration. have you read female porn (like 50 shades of grey)? they just want power imbalance (from fucking a powerful man and doing some pretend bondage / slave play). they don't care about size, technique or actual pain (most bondage is light). so if you want a woman to enjoy sex, she should respect you, see you as dominant. a woman who has had a manager or famous musician as an ex will always have higher relationship and sexual requirements than one who dated a boring athlete, even if the latter could fuck her for hours.
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>>34599763
Cope hag.

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