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How far are we from a theory of everything? Why can't we measure stuff and say: "life is this" yet?
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>>950074734
Thing is, we've hit that several times now so people are tired of being wrong
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>>950074734
super far

theory of everything needs to narrow down definitions if it ever wants to be attainable
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>>950074734
42

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>>950074734
>How far are we from a theory of everything?
about 5 miles
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>>950074734
not really achievable. You can model anything but its difficult to say 'life is this' when that question itself is just a best-fit model
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>>950074734
I like the theory that if we successfully explain everything in the universe it reboots and comes back even weirder.
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>>950074734
>measure
Our systems of mathematics are not inherent to the universe, yet we try to project them onto reality while expecting them to fit perfectly.
We try to hard to contrive truth, and try to little to understand. Fix that, and perhaps you will get your wish.
However, there are so many layers of faith and trust and money wrapped up in this I doubt you could.
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*too* x2 for post above
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>>950074769
>>950074828
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>>950075123
So assuming it is a thing: a "universal truth"... How can I tell if my mind is capable of understanding it?
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>>950075222
42, if you cant understand it thats one you
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>>950075222
Triples checked. If it is a universal truth, it has always been, and it is part of the united wholos of our natural world, and therefore by the logic associated with Occam's razor, we can deduce it is likely very simplex.
It may take some innate wisdom to understand, but it shouldn't be incomprehensible either. It should align with the phrase:
>"Simplicity is Divinity."
My take. Yours may vary.
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>>950074828
>>950075254
is that from that stupid book you boomers hold up for some reason?
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>>950075471
i too find this annoying
not him obviously, but it's like stfu already
stop shoehorning that meaningless non-answer into everything
even in the book/movie it was basically outlined as an error in interpretation by the machine answering the question iirc
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>>950075471
>>950075547
Someones butthurt over an answer to their stupid pseudo intellectual question
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>>950075573
if you think searching for a unified theory is a "stupid pseudo intellectual pursuit
then you are only proving you are what you claim others to be
cope more then
because your "answer" is only proving you don't know anything
>log-fat-faggot
oh right
you always pretend to be dumb, but you're never capable of acting intelligent either
which outlines the fact you really are this dumb
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>>950075666
>guise the UTE!
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>>950075698
>implying it's one thing
>and not a pure pursuit of truth in totality
you'll never be anything more than a joke
and that's sad
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>>950075763
>take me seriously
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>>950075826
you do take me and this thread too seriously
and in your effort to undermine the concept you've only proven your own ignorance and malice
cope moar
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>>950075893
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
42
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>>950074734
brain is a liar
reality made of lies
liars everywhere
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>>950075906
you have no point to make
and spam nonsense you fail to comprehend in order to cope
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>>950076050
>take me seriously
42
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>>950076104
>botspam
>no point made
all you have is cope
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>42
>You can't answer a question that you can't ask

Idk
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>spams a number
>has nothing interesting to say
>dismisses others for what he provably is
cope moar
it's all you've got
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Its 42 seething hard
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42 spammer is seething
and has nothing to say
because it's log-fat-faggot
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>>950076368
>no you
42
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>doesn't even know what no u refers to
insanely retarded
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>>950076340
>Its 42 seething hard
>>950076368
>42 spammer is seething

>>950076440
>hur dur its not no you
42
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>mass replies
>plebbit spacing
>projecting ignorance as a virtue
you're too dumb to exist here, even on /b/
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950076558
42 :)
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you have no point to make
and your spam is only proving what you are and what you lack
you've already proven yourself to be an anti intellectual by virtue of the fact you dismiss pursuits of truth in favor of pop-ssci media quotes
it's shameful and telling
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Why are you guys arguing with each other over a number?
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42 sperg
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samefagging won't save you from your ignorance
we see through you
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>Doesnt know what samefagging is
Kek, 42
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>called out
>i-it wasn't me
you're too obvious
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Point to my samefag posts. 42
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what a lame clown
get a better act jack
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>i cant
Kek, 42
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>too retarded
at least you know
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>>950076945
>ad hominems because you cant
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careful
someone's watching
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>>950077068
>the giant bearded eye is watching
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its not ad hominem
it's a statement in fact roven by your actiuaons and you inability to change
i am not dodging an argument by making personal attacks on you]
i am pointing out something you agreed with
the fact you cannot change coupled with something you cannot seem to see
the fact you're promoting dumb ideas while dismissing a pursuit of truth
cope more
all you seem to have is ignorance and lies, so I see why you do tend to cope instead of trying to argue a point
nothing to say
head empty syndrome, a.k.a. retardation or mental deficiency of some variety
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>>950077068
>You are what you see

Wrong

You are MADE of what you see, but you're not it
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>>950077189
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
42
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you scream in rage instead of confronting the truth
and that's what defines your repugnant nature
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42
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>>950074734
About the only definitive thing that we can say ties it all together is struggle and suffering
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>>950077433
And 42
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>>950077433
Not this again...
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>whole lotta nothin to say
i accept your concession then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlknAj_nou8
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>>950077459
Idk what do you want from me? That not to be the case? Because even the flip side of love is the vulnerability to suffer
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>accept concessions, plese stop
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those aren't the same things and your statement is false
and if you want to turn this into a challenge of endurance, so be it
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>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE stop
42
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screaming in futile rage is all you are able to do
it's shameful honestly
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>please stop
42
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your propensity to lie and indignant rage doesn't change the fact you have nothing intelligent to say
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>>950077692
>i said stop
42
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>>950077502
You just complain.
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even as you try to persist you continue to fail
as you desperately attempt to bend the truth into lies
pathetic display, anon
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>da lies and truth
42 btw
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your coping is repetitive
\because you're an unimaginative loser
change that, please
for yourself more than anyone else
change who you are
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42 :)
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>>950077738
That sounds like projection
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>>950077926
Like saying that reality is suffering? I don't think so.
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nothing to say? then remain quiet. it's that easy
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.42.
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>>950078036
..42..
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42?
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a pathetic unfunny display of futile rage
and nothing much more
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4 2
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add a zero lol
at least that would refer to something
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42
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spamming to mask your rage and ignorance
based retard lol
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42.
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mods try to make this place less appealing by sabotaging it with spam
and i wonder if this is related
even if it's not it's equally as repulsive
not lulzy or fun
just kinda sad more than anything else
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42
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moderator spam
great
(not really)
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>>950077202
you're making stuff up
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42
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>>950079753
>you're making stuff up

Yes. And I suffer no physical change in the process.
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donde esta la biblioteca
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>>950080190
En su mama culo
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you've thoroughly demonstrated your inability to think reason or create an argument
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Jdjd
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cope
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>>950074828
The answer is 42. It's always been and will always be. We can't escape it and it can't escape us. The cognitive dissonance between us is also the catalyst of congruence.
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dumbest post ever lol
at least you're trying to commit
respect to that
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>>950085863
>The answer is 42.

What does that even mean?
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>>950085953
who the fuck is your retarded ass replying to?
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>>950086011
GTS and find out for yourself.
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>>950086011
dubs
it's bait pm
it's like saying the same thing 50 million times in a row to make yourself feel powerful or something
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>>950074734
No matter how much you try to measure anything, you’ll never achieve jt.
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>>950086075
It's a reference to a book. I still don't get it
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>>950086107
you don't know... SAD!
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>>950086284
So then read the book.
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>>950086340
Why would I have to read a whole book when you can just tell me?
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the guy spamming the number doesn't know
and he failed to demonstrate anything more than dismissal of interest in the pursuit of truth
he's an anti intellectual and a spammer
so why should anyone care
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>>950074734
Isis is the mark of the beast/Satanic Hivemind.
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42 is a joke from hitchhiker's guide 2 the galaxy
(the ultimate answer)

2)
we will never understand everything
you brain is optimized for
running thue the forest with a pointy stick to kill a cute animal
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what a horrible set of answers
>the sky is blue
>and my materialism makes me think im nothing more than an animal
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>>950074734
Life is the universe fighting against entropy.
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>>950091525
>Life is the universe fighting against entropy.

Nothing can stop heat death of the universe, anon
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>>950091662
Not him, but that's only a theory based on limited observations, and if I must remind you there's no "center" to the universe, and so to presume dissolution into nothingness is more than a bit absurd.
The further we look into the universe, the more we see, and the less likely it seems we would ever simply fade into "nothing".
Whatever the source of matter is, it may not be so fleeting.
The theory is founded on presumptions and limited observations, so while I know it "feels good" to doomspiral and doomsay, in a sick way, it's not really a theory that holds water either.
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>>950091948
Oh ok
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>>950092097
It's an absurd thing to cling to. A theory of death centered around observations made in ignorance.
For all we know matter is generated from the special physics found in black holes. Perhaps at certain scales and under such extreme conditions, matter simply manifests into being. Regardless, even if the universe ends, it doesn't matter much.
Enjoy your life while you've got it. Don't dwell on doom anon.
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>>950074734
You should at least try to get your dick good and wet at least once in your life
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>>950092982
I can't be bothered
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>>950091948
dark matter is the big bang still happening
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>>950093066
42
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>>950093066 dubs
"Dark" "matter" is a nonsense term for something scientists don't understand, and since the universe has no center, t"the big bang" doesn't hold water. It's a ridiculous theory.
Almost as ridiculous as the spam ITT.
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>>950093238
42
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>>950093288
Niggers and faggots? Yes. Kikes too. Dubs though.
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>>950093332
42
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>>950093352
A kikes and a nigger walked into a bar and asked for a drink. The bartender shot them both.
Was that fair?
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>>950093438
42
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Bots man.
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950093590
>da bots
Kek, nah youre just fucking stupid so get 42. For example "the universe has no center" fucking kek
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>>950093238
>since the universe has no center
What a fucking retard
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>>950093671
>>950093711 doubles though
Point at the universe's center. You can't because there isn't one.
This isn't a perfect representation, but it does demonstrate the scale of things, and the fact there's no center to the universe.
What kind of foolish thinking led you to that erroneous conclusion?
>so get 42
You don't know how to communicate, at all.
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>>950077950
I’m not complaining even a little just an observation
You however have the complaint that reality is what it is
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>>950093825
>there is no center
Hahaha youre retarded, 42 btw
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>>950093887
There are centers to objects, but there is no center of the universe.
Ad hominem and deferral to nonsense does not help your point, and you cannot refute my own point either.
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>>950093940
>there is no center
Fucking tard
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>>950093980
Ad hominem fallacies are only proving your own retardation. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sThaCXe1eJU
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>>950094052
Im sorry im not arguing a stupid opinion of a /b/tard, 42
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>>950094081
You fallacies and innate stupidity speak loudly anon.
Prove there's a center. Point at it or reference it. You can't do this because it doesn't exist.
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>>950094118
>makes a claim
>asks others to prove it
This is why i dont argue with retards on 4chan, juat enrage them

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>>950094162
You think there's a center to the universe, and that fact alone tells me you are what you're claiming I am.
You don't know up from down lol
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>>950094180
You claimed there was no and that disputes the big bang. Bold claims, got any proof? Nope? Shut the fuck up retard
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>>950094225
*no center
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>>950094225
>You claimed there was no *center* and that disputes the big bang
The fact there's no center disproves the theory, yes. The fact there was never any real proof of the theory to begin with somewhat dismisses it too, yes.
>got any proof?
The fact there's no center, and the fact "the big bang" was never proven or related to any empirical evidence states it has no merit.
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>>950094373
Show us show us the shape the universe. You cant plus any shape still has a center. So like i said 42 and shut the fuck up you retard
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>>950094373
>The fact there's no center
Show us
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>>950093238
That's because you are picturing the big bang and the universe in 3+1 dimentional space time. If you allow that the universe has additional dimensions, then dark matter which adds to the universal gravitational field while being invisible to the human eye makes more sense.
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>>950094591
>guise 4d
Youre just as retarded at the universe has no center anon
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>>950094416
>the shape the universe
Ridiculous and a false supposition, but it is somewhat radial from every point of material interaction and dispersal of energy. Still, the universe itself has no shape, and no definite center. Star-systems have relative centers. Objects have centers, but the universe has no center to point to, because it is practically infinite in scale. you're asking the shape of something which has no shape to speak of.
Now, let's ask you a question. Point to the center, and explain why you believe the universe has a definite "shape".
Please, elaborate.
>number spam
You have no point to make, and you're not saying anything by posting that number.
>>950094567
there isn't one to point to. it is absent. That's my point.
>>950094591
Wrong concerning my thought process.
>the universe has additional dimensions
illogical, and this defies Occam's razor. the simplest explanation cannot be this contrived nonsense.
>dark matter which adds to the universal gravitational field
No,. but considering a universal medium which is not this explains much.
I think sci-fi got to you too deeply.
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>>950094694
>i cant show you the fact there is no center
So youre lying and retarded, gotcha
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>>950094720
It is self-evident/ the fact there is no center to point to proves there is no center to point to.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
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>>950094720
Now point to a center. i will wait.
Oh, right. You can't.
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>>950094752
>its a fact
>i cant
Classic retard behavior, 42
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>b-but 42!!!
lol
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>>950094774
See>>950094162
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>>950094789
>its a fact...just believe me tho
42
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>>950094784
>>950094801
You have no evidence of your claim, while my claim is proven true by virtue of the fact you nor anyone else can point to it.
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>>950094822
>>its a fact...just believe me tho
yeah that's what you're saying to the other guy
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>>950094850
>claims a fact
>has not evidence
Classic retard behavior 42
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>>950094864
See>>950094801
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>>950094885
The evidence is the center you claim exists does not in fact exist, and if it did exist you could point to it, which you cannot.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Point to the center, then, if it exists. I will wait.
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I am not sure humans can every comprehend everything. We are still 99% the same genetically as a chimpanzee. Are you every going to get a chimp to do calculus? Why would an animal 99% the same be able to solve the meaning of the universe?
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>>950094925
Show us said evidence
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>>950094903
youre the one making claims you can't back tho
cope is high with this one
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>>950094950
>claims a fact
>cant prove
Everytime 42
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>>950094937
The fact the center does not exist proves it in fact does not exist.
Now you point to the center you claim exists.
You can't? then you cede your point.
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>>950094978
tha's all you m8
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>>950094985
>the fact
Show us
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>>950095009
>prove my claims
Retard
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>>950095011 Doubles 11
Show us the center.
You are the one postulating a claim without evidence.
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>>950095039
You claimed its a fact. Show us.

Protip: you saying so isnt proof
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>>950095027
are you drunk anon?
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>>950095053
You claimed a center exists. I claimed something does not exist by virtue no-one can see it.
You're the one making the claim, and so the burden of proof is on you to display.
The fact we cannot see or abstract a center is self evident.
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>>950095061
See>>950095053
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>>950095095
See>>950095053

42
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>>950095103
jsut a faggot then
cool
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>>950095124
See>>950095053
Youre crashing out 42
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>>950095123
So nothing? I accept your concession, yet I anticipate your continuation of fallacies and feigned ignorance, or genuine stupidity.
Some people should have been beat more in their formative years.
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>>950095138
that doesnt say much
have fun crashing tho
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>>950095138
>crashing out
Is that some weird disney channel movie term?
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>>950095187
>>950095217
See>>950095053
Youre crashing out, 42
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>>950095228
See>>950095053
Youre crashing out
42
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>>950095187
>if you dont argue in argumentation by way of fallacy statements then my smug bullshit is for nothing!
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>>950095240
Gibberish.
If you use nothing but fallacies and "no u's", then you have nothing of importance to say.
You can't point to a center, and so you are ceding your point.
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>>950095320
>If you use nothing but fallacies
>its fact
>cant show said facts
Kek, retard 42
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>>950095344 Doubles
You can't point to a center, and so you have no point.
I already pointed out there is no center, which is self-evident by virtue no-such-thing exists.
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>>950095382
>its a fact
SHOW US, 42
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>>950095393
Show us a center.
I see no center to point to, so please, elucidate us. Show us "the center of the universe". Lol.
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>>950095479
See>>950095053
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>>950095497
No point? You can't poi9nmt to a center? then you cede your argument. until you point to a center, you have nothing valid to argue in relationship to this line of dialogue.
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>>950095497
Also this proves you can't read lol.
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>>950095524
See>>950095053
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>>950095544 Dubs though
Show us a center.
I see no center to point to, so please, elucidate us. Show us "the center of the universe". I will wait for you to produce the evidence you claim exists.
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>>950095533
>you cant read
See >>950095053

Read all the text
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>jase please come back!!!!
>vincent!!!!
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>>950095558
>i see no center
See >>950095053
Try reading the protip
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>>950095565
>>950095580
You're the one claiming a center. The burden of proof is on you.
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>>950095597
>i cant
Classic retard behavior
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>>950095617
You're the one making a claim. The burden of proof is on you.
You claimed something exists. A center to the universe.
Your ad hominem fallacy is terribly funny, because it's clear you're only projecting your own failure.
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>>950095719
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you said its a fact. Show us
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>>950095773
You're the one making a claim. The burden of proof is on you.
You claimed something exists. A center to the universe. So show us said center.
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>>950095794
Nice deflection, show us
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>>950095812
>Projection
You have nothing to back your claim.
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>>950094632
>Youre just as retarded at the universe
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>>950095844
Youre a joke of a human. Show us your facts
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>>950095877 Dubs of coping
>no u
Is there a center to the universe? If yes, then were is it?
>>950095866
Dubs. I think he's tweaked out or drunk honestly. If not either of those, it's profound mental retardation.
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*where
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>>950095919
You claimed its a fact show us the facts,

Protip: you saying so isnt a fact
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>>950094694
>this defies Occam's razor
which is an immutable scientific law and not a general rule of thumb, right einstein?
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>>950095866
You cant even wrap your mind around the 4th dimension when you use daily
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>>950096028
*use it
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>>950095945
You made a claim, I pointed out it doesn't exist. You have yet to prove your claim, and yet the burden of evidence/proof is still on your shoulders.
Produce evidence for your erroneous claim the universe has a definite center, or cede your point once more.
>>950095950
It is most likely. Can you point to these imaginary extra dimensions, or are they like unicorns?
Prove your point, or concede it. In theory, you may state many things. In hypothesis, even more, but these claims do not fit common sense, Occam's razor or our actual observations. So, your claim is exciting to consider, but completely detached from reality,. and that's the point I am making.
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>>950096028
I think you "use daily" for the fact you think such illogical things.
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>>950096065
You claimed its a fact there is no center. A FACT. Show us already (you saying so doesnt count) or shut the fuck up
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>>950096094
You dont even know what 4d is, lmao
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>>950096134
Inb4 anon posts a hypercube further showing he doesnt understand the concept of 4d
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>>950096117
If there is a center, you could point to it. that's the point.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
>>950096134
I do in fact know the theory you are pointing to, and your claim of ignorance is nothing more than an ad hominem fallacy. Your "faith" in this speculation is not reality, anon.
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>>950096180
Figures your both of these retards, kek
4D isnt a theory numb nuts. Youre so fucking stupid
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>>950096155
You conceptualize things which cannot be seen weighed or measured. You are caught in a trap of faith and rumors.
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>>950096214
He doesnt know, kek.
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>>950096210
>>950096244 dubs of cope
It isn't "time" and time isn't a thing unto itself.
It isn't some extra dimension outside of our universe which you cannot prove real.
It is an idea. You're right it's less than a theory. its a weak hypothesis which doesn't hold water, figuratively speaking.
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>>950096287
Youre so stupid
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>>950096300 dubs of cope again
Your ad hominem fallacy and your inability to prove your idea real says everything.
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>>950096338
You have no concept of the words you use. There is no point but to call you stupid
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>>950096408
Another appeal to the person instead of the argument? Aka ad hominem fallacy.
You have nothing of substance to say, and you can't prove your idea has any merit or basis in reality.
There are no extra dimensions outside of our universe you can prove or point to, and I think you're samefagging another anon's ideas because you realized you couldn't prove there is a center to the universe.
Even if you're not him, you sure do type and argue identically. Interesting.
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>>950096552
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Nope we're done. You dont even understand the basic concepts and thus have no grounds for any discussion
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>>950096876
So you're screaming in rage now?
Either prove there are extra dimensions outside the universe, or prove a center as you were previously arguing, or cede your claims.
Your personal attacks are nothing but fallacies unrelated to the argument, and it's clear that's why you keep deferring to them
You have nothing else.
Your signature is saging and a willful inability to understand others. I know you well enough, as anon.
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>>950096966
You don't even know what 4d is and you want to discuss space. Kek
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>>950097041
I know the concept well. Still, you can't provide evidence of your claims in relationship to the idea. Otherwise, you would have done so by now.
It's clearly not about what you're claiming to argue, but instead a pursuit of a feeling of false power over others. Likely pursued because you're so weak both mentally and physically. I truly pity you, but I would help heal you if I could. I mean that.
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Isis, fuck you.
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Ah, it's the fag that projects his mental illness and insults deities...
Sad.

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