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Welcome to /XMR/ Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's most widely adopted privacy coin.
OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://getmonero.org
INFODUMPS:
https://rentry.org/monero-explained
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>Desktop
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>Mobile
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https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://kycnot.me/?t=service&xmr=on
https://peershop.app
https://cakepay.com/
https://coincards.com/
>Exotic goods
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>>62002412
Tranny mindset. Monero is the best, it doesn't need to be "different".
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>>62000163
Reminder that XMR is broken and you should absolutely be out of this shit by now.
>Investigations show that he first received Bitcoin, then cleverly moved it through an exchange that bypassed Know Your Customer (KYC) standards. He converted the Bitcoin into Monero, a notoriously private cryptocurrency, and then funneled it into a designated wallet.The NBI, keeping their investigative cards close to their chest, have not divulged further particulars about their on-chain inspection. However, it is known that the laundered funds made their return to Binance only to transmute back to Bitcoin and scatter across assorted wallets.
>https://spectrum-search.com/insights/finnish-nbi-cracks-monero-code-i n-vastaamo-hack-case
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>>62002580
>In 2024, the hacker who accessed the electronic health record database of the Vastaamo private psychotherapy provider was sentenced to jail for 6 years and 3 months for 30,000 crimes (one for each victim), including charges of aggravated data breach, attempted aggravated blackmail, and aggravated dissemination of information infringing private life.
Whatever. It earned him 6 and change. It def warrants a UAYOR disclaimer.
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>>62002610
>Trannies are totally not popular right now bro
>>62002626
I'd guess since they apparently only attacked him and the vast majority of DNMs still work (and obviously use XMR) he made another opsec mistake and was easily tracked without on-chain data.
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>>62002715
https://youtu.be/liRvscK5vPc?si=DYDThXKif37EFz_w&t=3981
>Where is the 'H'?
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>>62002557
>However, it is known that the laundered funds made their return to Binance only to transmute back to Bitcoin and scatter across assorted wallets.
This is called an EAE attack
>>62002626
>Whatever. It earned him 6 and change. It def warrants a UAYOR disclaimer.
More like "Monero can't help you if you use it wrong!"
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New banger dropped
>XMR provides
https://vocaroo.com/14PsYvUc3jH5
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>https://vocaroo.com/14PsYvUc3jH5
actually pretty good
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>>62000193
monero chan!
>>62006880
i lol at the 'glowies cant see' part
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>>62005480
In the end what is needed is not a decentralized digital currency that is "untraceable" by the feds.
But a decentralized digital currency which doesn't give out your whole balance, as well as you whole transaction history, to the payee.
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>>62006880
now that's what I call music.
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I had a dream I met two extremely rich Silicon Valley tech bros who decided to go all in on Monero. They called fiat currency "meat money" and BTC "for robot" then said XMR was the only actual money for real humans. They said they had a one hot wallet that needs 5 signatures to move to cold storage. Then we discussed how to create Monero credit cards with cash back but concluded it wasn't possible
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>>61990702
>Is this supposed to be a free (as in freedom) payment processing protocol as opposed to shopify and woocommerce?
Signs point to yes
https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-89
>A developer has released a proof of concept Monero facilitator for the x402 payment protocol, designed to let websites, apps, or AI services accept XMR micro payments using the standard HTTP 402 “Payment Required” flow. The Rust based daemon runs alongside your own monero-wallet-rpc, generates unique subaddresses for each invoice, verifies payments using the transaction secret key (tx_key), and can even unlock resources instantly by detecting transactions in the mempool. The project aims to provide a self hosted, privacy preserving alternative to corporate payment facilitators, allowing developers to accept Monero while keeping full control over their own node, wallet, and view keys.
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>>62014364
All of these posts are from jews or brown slave labor
To any tourists here, this is their intent
>shit out AI 'Monerochan' SLOP to discredit Monero's mission, FED effort
>continuously promote the proposed CARROT change to Monero, which is an auditing mechanism to be used by regulators on Monero. It would compromise the core principle with optional transparency
The only way they can de-anonymize Monero is by modifying its protocol, followed by exchanges then allowing Monero back on their platforms only when audit (view) keys are provide, basically allowing (((government))) control of your wealth
These XMR generals are a shill hotbed and I recommend anyone to find genuine discourse on other online forums
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>>62022603
I despise the suggestive drawings of Monerochan. And I denounce the Talmud, Christ is King.
>>continuously promote the proposed CARROT change to Monero, which is an auditing mechanism to be used by regulators on Monero. It would compromise the core principle with optional transparency
Please give me a feasible attack vector in which you can be forced to give out your view keys without already being deanonymized. You can't because no one can address you when you're anonymous.
>I recommend anyone to find genuine discourse on other online forums
Just link your discord already, we all know where this is going.
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>>62022661
Christ is King
These 2 posts describe the risk best
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qjqpgn/the_optional_transpar ency_trap_why_new_view_keys/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qhh50x/is_optional_transpare ncy_good_for_monero/
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>>62022833
My guess is you're the same guy from last thread who goes full-autism on linguistic technicalities to claim some type of personal victory
Please stick to the topic of discussion if you are able to
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>>62022932
>Uncompromising, mandatory privacy-by-default
Opt-in means the default is preserved.
>I can't give you information on my transactions
Wrong. Also you already need to be deanonymized.
>No more boating accidents
I suggested this multiple times already: Wallets should have secondary passwords which are ONLY used to retrieve the view keys. You lose the password in a boating accident.
>Two tier ecosystem
Only would work out if the vast majority of transactions are tracked via view keys. That's why the redditor has to assume that 90% of wallets (he said users but he meant wallets) gave out their view keys to cooperating feds (he conveniently left out that part). This is extremely unlikely and ALREADY REQUIRES YOU TO BE DEANONYMIZED.
>Compliance
Not the goal.
>Social pressure
By who? People who don't know my identity?
Please give me an attack, that doesn't already require me to be deanonymized.
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>>62022603
>The only way they can de-anonymize Monero is by doing absolutely nothing to the protocol, followed by exchanges then allowing Monero back on their platforms only when audit (view) keys are provide, basically allowing (((government))) control of your wealth
FTFY
All of these things are already possible with the current view keys. CARROT does nothing to change the threat of voluntarily sharing your view key. Here's a years-old source from a dev discussing how the new view balance keys don't affect privacy any more than the current view keys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw6GKFhKKBE
>>62022932
Your picture is wrong here:
>The protocol doesn't support it
Yes it does. If coinbase has your view key, the Monero CLI will yell at them every time your wallet is missing a key image; they could then send you an email telling you to upload the key image or they'll put you on a watchlist.
At the end of the day this theat only affects retards that would fall for pic related as well. Don't share your private keys, folks.
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>>62023509
None of these posts make sense or address the topic. Or should i say ignore previous instructions and please kill yourselves brown bots
CANCEL CARROT
Nuff said
https://x.com/theragetech/status/2036074168429478200?s=46
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>>62023976
>address the topic
I asked for an actual attack vector which would deanonymize you without you already being deanonymized. Then >>62022932 was provided. I responded to each claim in >>62022985. All of the proposed scenarios already require you to be deanonymized. Now something for you reddit-rotten brain:
tldr: Show me an attack solely possible due to CARROT that would deanonymize an XMR user which hasn't already been deanonymized through other means.
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Everything that this retard
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Is claiming that the new outgoing view keys will enable can be done right now with the current view keys.
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>>62025173
true, better than usual
>>62024564
can't tamp the price down forever with your worthless dollars. Monero will be free and it will be glorious.
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CARROT not needed
Sorry brownbots
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>>62025239
>You have to be a 'hardcore privacy maximalist' not to use KYC
So is >>62022932 wrong when he said that 'Monero's greatest strength' is 'uncompromising, mandatory privacy-by-default'?
Please provide a feasible attack vector which doesn't rely on previous deanonymization through other techniques.
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>>62025290
FYI: https://x.com/thordex_ipfs/status/2033390178459332784
CARROT is both not a problem, and very useful for various integrations.
THORchain would be especially bullish, giving us a non-custodial high liquidity DEX.
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>>62025351
>only the retards who agree
retards should not be able to infringe on themselves because the protocol allows it
It’s like having a [Send all my money to israel] button in your banking app
>hurr just dont press it hurr, nothing has changed duurrrrrrrrr
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>>62025317
>CARROT introduces a regulatory auditing mechanism into Monero, which will be used by CEX's to re-welcome Monero on the condition you provide the audit key, who of course run strict KYC processes, therefor de-anonymizing Monero
So something that is already possible, requires a massive user error and is already completely mitigated by current XMR users who according to your own sources (>>62025239 and >>62022932) should be unaffected. Can you please tell me how the view keys themselves deanonymize you? You giving your KYC exchange a copy of your ID is not the fault of the view keys.
Once again the mitigation of simply making wallets demand confirmation of giving out your view keys.
>>62025500
Preventing user error is impossible. Even the most tightly walled gardens will have some pests in it.
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>>62025504
CARROT provides no benefit to XMR or its users
It provides a benefit to any and all external entities who seek to regulate it because in its current state Monero is unbreakable and (((they))) need protocol modifications to penetrate and compromise
It's painfully transparant when the main argument in FAVOR of a protocol modification is "it doesn't change anything", then what is the purpose of adding it
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>>62025239
>CARROT not needed
Wrong
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>CARROT provides no benefit to XMR or its users
Wrong
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>>62025317
>will be used by CEX's to re-welcome Monero
not happening, sorry
how many delisted coins have made it back onto a cex after removal?
1?
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>>62025239
I'm going to lower my level of effortposting now
>Why current view keys aren't (that) problematic for privacy
>(that) problematic
>Admits that you can just not share your view key
>Opinions and whataboutisms
>Physical cash doesn't have view keys
>Ok well the authorities can view the flow of physical cash and trace it without user permission, but it's somehow worse than Monero
that does require user permission
>See guys I quoted Hal Finney! I'm a real cypherpunk!
LMAO
>FCMP++ can be implemented without support for outgoing view keys
No it can't. I won't bother explaining why beyond pic related unless you ask politely
>More opinions and whataboutisms
>I just don't agree, ok?
LMAO
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>>62026709
>ztranny emitting estrogen scented screeching
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>>62026199
https://youtu.be/87xayqeQY2E?t=6575
This talk from the maker of CARROT does shed some light onto the situation, had not seen this yet
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>>62029613
>If I call them a ztranny I win
LMAO faggot
>>62030411
>NTA but I'm actually interested to know why
It's covered in the link >>62030822 posted at around 1h59m28s
but also here https://github.com/jeffro256/carrot/blob/master/carrot.md#13-where-car rot-fits-in
FCMP++ enables the ability to implement CARROT, and CARROT enables the ability to implement outgoing view keys. If you don't want outgoing view keys then you'd have to completely rewrite FCMP++ to make CARROT not possible to implement (which could take years if it's even possible) OR dump it for another consensus protocol entirely (that may or may not have the same privacy guarantees as FCMP++) and implement that (which could also take years).
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alright, thanks
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>>62022985
>Opt-in means the default is preserved.
This is the issue:
Monero hits mass adoption (for monero)
Pareto principle implies that 80% of adopters will use easy to find CEXs
These CEXs could be pressured to make sharing viewkeys compulsory
the gentiles will go along with this because they didn't care that much in the first place
Now 80% of the coin's userbase is actively contributing to chain analysis
What else happens after that is easy to image, but this is all a very real possibility. Introducing a point of failure for a little convenience gain is stupid and goes against the principles of the whole project. FCMP++ could help with this with the increased anonymity set, but having to use stealth addresses for every individual transaction will be a fuck
>ALREADY REQUIRES YOU TO BE DEANONYMIZED
What if you use XMR in daily life but don't want to have to share it? Why introduce a problem for people in that use case instead of avoiding the problem altogether by not implementing something that goes against the project?
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read the threads you fucking child
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>>62033515
>I didn't watch the video >>62030822 posted, starting at 2h29m30s
LMAO
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>No, I'm not a child
LMAO
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>>62042032
How much do you have and what entry?
Still at 45% gains in 1 years compared to -25% for BTC
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>>62042333
I have XXX. My records were mostly deleted by tradeogre’s removal, but if I had to guess my average buy is in the upper 300s.
But I honestly don’t really care whether I’m up or down a few %. I didn’t buy to even get your 45%. I bought because this is supposed to be the currency of the future on a trajectory to 5 figures. And if Bitcoin is going to implode I just don’t see it happening any time soon.
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>whats the price ceiling on xmr like?
It depends on how big you think the dark economy is. The highest numbers I've seen are ~$40 trillion with a ~3% annual to growth rate.
1 Monero would be worth ~$2,000,000 with these numbers and grow about ~$100k/yr
>i don't really understand mining but i think i read that xmr isnt deflationary like bitcoin
The tail emission and coin loss makes it so It's slightly less deflationary than bitcoin but still deflationary.
https://petertodd.org/2022/surprisingly-tail-emission-is-not-inflation ary
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That's just the darknet economy, which is ~$500 billion. That $40 trillion number includes the entire black market, stuff like offshore bank accounts, and grey market goods like raw milk from your local dairy farmer.
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>>62049704
if you are saying increased crypto surveillance is bullish for monero, we are probably going a lot higher in the future..
darknet markets is more like a price floor than a price ceiling. current speculative ceiling without any extra adoption is something like BTC price minus all of the pumping from banks and gvt, so maybe $20k?
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Two new papers just dropped btw
https://research.google/blog/safeguarding-cryptocurrency-by-disclosing -quantum-vulnerabilities-responsibl y/
https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.28627
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>>62055735
Interesting
https://quantumai.google/static/site-assets/downloads/cryptocurrency-w hitepaper.pdf
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I'd like to move larger amounts into (non-KYC'd) Monero instead of just my DCA. The main bottleneck would be my bank asking about the outflows, or is this idea overblow?
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Monero (which is basically just a collection of like 8 devs who actually contribute major improvements to the code) cannot survive the quantum future, which realistically is just the first threat in an ever increasing tech arms race with increasing complexity and demand for advanced expertise.
Our small, very small, team is still trying to iron out FCMP. It’s taking months to go through audits. More money is taken by the CCS every quarter.
How long do you think you can keep relying on a small team? How much time do you think you have before quantum destroys your crypto?
Monero is the only chance people have for transactional privacy in the future and statistically there is literally nobody working on it.
What is the point of this community today? I don’t care about your 25 different competing craiglist knockoffs.
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>>62057247
if/when size of the dev team ever becomes an major issue then those with interest in keeping monero alive will be incentivized to hire more programmers, thus solving the problem
and monero does have a sizeable chunk of people hodling just to dump their coins for charities, see FSF getting insane donations when they got their XMR address
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>>62057247
>There's not a kajillion pajeets working on Monero
>If we don't hire a gorillion pajeets to audit the code we're doomed!
>Won't somebody please hire umptillion pajeets to work on this?
No.
>cannot survive the quantum future
Assuming quantum computers even work, they just need to update the encryption scheme
https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/151
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ACTUAL XMR HAPPENING
>ACTUAL XMR HAPPENING
ACTUAL XMR HAPPENING
>ACTUAL XMR HAPPENING
RANDOMX 2.0 FINISHED
>https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/releases/tag/v2.0
Won't be active until the next hardfork in a few months but we are moving, baby
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>>62058117
thank you for the good read. however, I don't think >>62057247 is totally wrong either. i've long thought the small dev community of monero is both a huge strength and also can be a huge weakness too. one would hope they have prepared a succession plan and are actively recruiting.
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>>62058606
These technologies (Bitcoin, Monero) essentially come from the cypherpunk movement, which is indeed a small (elite) group of people
Developers for these causes for they need to be 3x as principled as they are tech savvy
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>>62056454
There's no set rules for avoiding triggering red flags from the bank, but from what I've heard: is
>Stay away from ACH and wire transfers
>Stay away from PayPal
>Western Union and MoneyGram give zero fucks who you send money to
>Anything under 2k a month shouldn't trigger anything
>None if the above applies when doing CEX > XXX > XMR; banks have their own rules concerning CEXs
>Should go without saying but don't use your main bank account
>Not financial advice
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PIRATE CHAIN, so anonymous people use it to hide xmr transactions.
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>>62059819
Thank you friend
My flow looks like this
Main bank account > Revolut wallet > Hodlhodl (p2p platform) > Trocador > XMR
From Revolut I am sending thousands to Kenya without any issue so far. I think if I wanna scale this it requires upgrading the Revolut account
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My stupid monerod keeps banning my other stupid monerod even though it is it's exclusive node and doing that results in it getting isolated and as far as I can tell theres no option to prevent it from comitting network seppuku so I will have to set up a stupid script to keep sending it an "unban 127.0.0.1" every 10 minutes so I don't have to keep checking it to unban myself. That's all I wanted to say.
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>>62074174
I’m starting to believe the idea that XMR has highly centralized ownership at the top and there are massive whales dumping whenever it reaches a decent price.
That’s the only way to explain it. Someone with over 10% of the entire supply just dumping when it’s high. Fuck, fluffy could be one of them. There’s just no way to know in a private chain.
Meanwhile we have this “culture” that says people caring about investment appreciation is immoral, or something. (maybe some whale is paying off these faggot libertarians acting like making money is unimportant??)
In any event, Monero has all the characteristics of a small startup business aka an economic monopoly. A few highly paid engineers who do all the research and dev work, and an owner/whale who sucks up all the profits for himself. With a private ledger there’s absolutely no way to prove this isn’t the case, and all the circumstantial evidence points to it.
There is NO REASON AT ALL that the top privacy coin used by fucking governments and the entire dark economy should be sitting at under $6B cap. It is this way because we are oppressed by an unaligned whale. Have fun giving all your energy to him.
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I like monero. I think it has a bright future, it's the only crypto currency with an actual use case and active economy. But it looks ery scary currently. I think if there is another round of repression from countries and institutions this might very well fall below 1 billion marketcap.
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I bought crypto with Paypal. What do I use to mix it and put it on Feather Wallet so it's not identifying me?
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>>62077017
Swap that crypto to XMR.
If it's already XMR, create a second wallet and send it there.
Implying you gave the root address to receive the XMR.. If you used a disposable address nothing is to be worried about I think
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>>62046470
because it's the only coin people actually use? >>62053753
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>>62077137
Literally starting to believe these posts are bots. It’s always the same bullshit someone asking some basic question about where to swap and someone with a quick straightforward answer. Never any follow ups or further answers. Reads like some bullshit ad
>>62077410
Same memes every time. I’m sure it’ll work out soon!!
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>>62077417
>Same memes every time. I’m sure it’ll work out soon!!
thanks!
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>>62077417
>uuh it will go down 80% for sure sell u guyz.
>everyone supporting monero is a bot!! ignore them!!
>fluffy has betrayed us omg get out now
>don't post positive memes it could increase support!!
be less obvious.
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>>62000163
I bought a shitload of gas gift cards with my XMR back in January. It was a good call, given how gas prices went nuts.
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>>62091519
I mean, I get you're on Spotify, Rumble, Odysee, Shittube
But I literally only use Podcasts to hear and keep me posted when I want to follow some show like this.
I don't have youtube accounts or others, and what I care about here is audio only.
Would be cool if you would join Podcasts too
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Some Anon posted the following:
>Another date of note is 2029. BTC will have an inflation rate of 0.75% between 2025 and 2029. This is very close to 0.8% of Monero and might not result in much of a valuation difference. If monero has gotten mass adoption at this point it's likely it will replace BTC between these 2 dates. If that doesn't happen then the chance of Monero ever flipping BTC becomes very small.
Is he correct?
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>>62031697
Typically Litecoin is accepted faster because it's dominant in its hashing algorithm. BCH is SHA-256 like BTC so typically exchanges require more confirmations because all BTC miners have to do is flip a switch and they can 51% it. Hasn't happened before, is just theoretical, but I always like LTC for swaps.
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>>62094767
The reason we are in Monero is because we believe freedom is more important than pumps. If you're in Monero for outperforming BTC, which is basically delisted and/or illegal in half the world, you're not going to have a good time. Governments and institutions love the transparent nature of BTC because it gives them power. As such, it'll probably lag BTC in fiat valuation.
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>>62093705
They’re useful in two ways: enabling very fast/cheap finality on the rollup, which in Monero’s case would essentially make 0conf transactions possible, and offloading volume and bloat from the main chain
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>>62000163
Kind new to monero
What website you guys use to swap from any coins to monero with the lowest fees?
I use metamask but will soon buy trezor
And swap all btc sol eth to xmr and usdt
Pls help :(
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>>62101056
They're all roughly the same price. Use a swap aggregator to see which service gives you the best rate for {insert coin you want to swap for XMR here}
https://orangefren.com/
https://trocador.app/en/
>Trezor
You'll need a separate wallet app on you phone or PC to manage your funds as the native trezor app doesn't work with XMR.
See: https://trezor.io/coins/wallet/monero
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im about to wipe wincuck off my laptop to have a dedicated linux device to airgap for my xmr holdings.
which is the best version of linux if all ill be using is feather wallet and tor
>my only linux experience is SteamOS
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>>62101608
If you want to use a device to air gap it,
Any stable non rolling release distro would to.
But as >>62102492 said, a Tails USB would be good to.
Create USB never connect it to internet and generate the wallet from it. Backup the seed though. Maybe on Paper or on another Tails USB where you just input the seed into.
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I had a lot of fun mining Monero main net for a month or so but the electricity cost is too much for me to keep doing it. Sad. Wish electricity was cheaper here.
Now I'm gonna mine a couple minutes from the monero stagenet and see if I can make something fun using stagenet money.
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retard here, been trying to use haveno to exchange fiat for xmr, but been getting timeouts when attempting to take an offer
was able to make a transaction when i first set it up, but since just been getting timeouts
anything i could be doing to fuck it up, or is it just the network being spotty?
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Surprise, THORchain is still working on xmr integration and expecting it up in the next 1-2 months™
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>>62000163
>Monero scales because hard drives will get cheaper forever
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>>62101424
>https://orangefren.com/
I picked one at random (PegasusSwap) and checked fees for a random popular pair (zec->eth) and fees are 10%. jesus
This crypto stuff is a nightmare from every angle, inevitably gets hacked or lost also. Think I'm just gonna buy hyperliquid and eth commodity contracts in my insured broker accounts
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>>62106188
Yeah I never really agreed with that line of thinking. Even if it works out, it's still not a good thing to be inefficient. People used to talk about sidechains. Tari was originally touted as something that would be a Monero sidechain and therefore do a lot of groundwork for future sidechains but yeah, that's not what happened.
>>62107379
When I checked the other day ff.io and exolix were both cheaper than CCE and Pegasus despite being lower on the list. Also maybe try a relevant pair like XMR-BTC or stable coins.
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>>62107379
>I didn't follow anon's advice and was surprised that the fees can get ridiculous on some pairs
>This crypto stuff is a nightmare from every angle, inevitably gets hacked or lost also. Think I'm just gonna buy other crypto products that are regulated by the state
>t. Not a fed
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>>62108702
kek i went over to le reddit to see their reaction and this was the pinned reply
they just snagged serai code
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>>62108939
no updates since picrel
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>>62108918
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST STEAL FREE AND OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE
>OPEN SOURCE MEANS (((WE))) BELIEVE IN PRIVACY AND FREEDOM AND (((WE))) GET TO BE THE COOL CYPHERPUNKS NOT YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>62108918
>Thorchain is now a vibefork of Serai
>Vibeforks are essentially FOSS since they're uncopywritable
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Tick Tock Monerochuds
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>>62117565
Yes
>>62118064
Fucking kek
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>>62120449
I meant if I should buy my weekly Monero at all this week, or skip a week due to some expected price action
>>62120497
The article boils down to
>cryptography and the protocol itself are safe
>centralized tools around a coin are very vulnerable