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Today, I was talking to a few people and I said I retired at 25. Then one guy said the following things to me
>wow you must be miserable
>uh ok man
>for sure man
I was confused and said
>retiring at 25 is the dream for most people man, what is your problem?
Then another guy chimes in and says
>I would be so bored if I had nothing to do
Wtf is wrong with normal people? “Bored if nothing to do?” This guy’s life is his job?
What?
Has anyone here experienced something like this? Please share.
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>>62113256
> I would be pretty bored too if I couldn't also make all my friends retire
No adult says this lol.
>¥> Have you ever worked weekends? When you're at home on a week day and everyone is away busy at work being social is much shittier
It really isn’t.
Would you work your job if you didn’t get paid? What is wrong with a bit of boredom? Wtf is “boredom” anyways?
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>>62113225
Arbeit Macht Frei.
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my mother could have retired at 32 when my father passed away but instead went to university, got a phd and now she is 63 and does conferences all over the world
if your goal in life is to retire so you can suck ladyboy dicks in Pattaya then you are a poorfag despite your money
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They are confused because you aren't making any sense. A 25 year old is not at equilibrium with the world and therefore not retired. Someone should legit kick your ass for being so stupid and a prick at the same time.
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>>62113348
> A 25 year old is not at equilibrium with the world and therefore not retired.
Huh? There are retired 20 years old now with the social media age. 19 year olds worth 30M plus…you’re stupid af. Youtube stars retired early 20s are quite a few now. This isn’t the 1950s where people retire at 50.
>the world
Most people would be lucky to retire at 40 now bro.
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>>62113357
Explain.
Also, explain this anon>>62113348
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>>62113394
Not true at all. Wealth buys all the nice things. Driving into your neighborhood, there is nothing quiet about that.
Also, what about those 2 guys speaking nonsense to me?
I never said I was rich, just retired. Why is no one happy for me?
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>>62113225
The problem with retiring at 25 is that the only people that you can realistically be friends with that won't be jealous of you are 20-something trust fund babies. Either you find the good ones with a plan and a career etc or you end up hanging out with the ones that just travel and do coke all day.
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>>62113432
Seriously, their attitudes were wierd as hell.
>i would be so bored without my job
How pathetic is that? The guy enjoys being underpaid. Like I would rather be bored than working.
>good job
Thanks.
I told the first guy
>you should be congratulating me man, not giving me this attitude.
His attitude was terrible. You had to be there.
>>62113446
What?
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OP do you have a formal autism diagnosis?
>>62113273
I'm an adult. Have you ever worked weekends? A lot of things I want to do involve my friends who are still trapped at work even when I am free. Being alone is boring for most people, maybe not for you. There is nothing wrong with "normal people", you just don't understand them.
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I think you quoted the wrong post.
>>62113305
Yes they probably do.
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>>62113500
This. I was going to say that too but instead just asked “are you an adult?”
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>>62113225
kek that's pretty funny. i never gave normies much thought before my early 30s but they're mostly concerned about fitting in and doing the needfuls and avoiding risk/responsibility. so yeah they're not going to retire until the government tells them to.
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>>62113225
I spent almost 2 years in my 40s unemployed. It was fine. I have a house and garden to take care of, a wife to fuck, and 4 kids under age 10 to care for and do stuff with.
But.
I am not rich enough to retire at 40 unfortunately. I need the job for money.
If I had some serious money, I dunno, even 1 million, I could and would retire. My wife will keep working until she's 85 because she actually likes her work so we'll always have income.
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>>62113256
i work from home so not only do i have to work but i also have no friends/social life. it's the worst of both worlds. want to retire asap so i can pursue my dreams
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>>62113225
its just pure cope, they're boiling inside keep teasing
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People are conditioned their entire life to be worker bees. You're thrown into school as a kid and given homework. They are just goycattle slaves, just look at what epstien said "let the goyim deal in the real world".
Just lie to people about it, it will save you the headache. Yes, for most people their life is their job.
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>>62113225
A guy I know retired at 65 and he's so bored he's considering getting a new job. Oddly enough, most people actually want to feel like they're producing something of worth to the world. Course, how the average wage slave can consider their work valuable is beyond me.
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>>62113225
The mindset in America is that you are a slave to your parents from birth to 18, free to take on debt from 18 to 22 in order to have regular college orgies, a slave to your boss from 22 to 65, and free to play bridge from 65 until death. Any freedom outside of those two milestones is unimaginable to normies.
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>>62114419
I remember I took a summer off in college and some guy asked me about my summer. I said I just relaxed. Guy blew a fuse and was like "WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN!!?? YOU WEREN'T WORKING!?!" I was like 19 and so perplexed, I didn't know what to even say.
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>>62114445
kek, it's always amazing to see wagies explode. My work began a flex hour/show up when you want thing during covid and one time one of the contract workers in a hard hat walked up red in the face as I was walking in around 10:30AM and asked "Why are there still people arriving? Is there a new shift right now?"
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>>62114470
I sometimes wonder if that's all they have, the world we created sucks, and the only pride and dignity someone can have is showing up on time and being a good wagecuck. grim if so. the human soul is above being a wagie
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>>62113406
>Why is no one happy for me?
You know exactly why retard, they’re seething with jealous rage. Stop acting dumb. Given your age and that you’re posting here you most definitely made it off crypto too, which whether you want to admit it to yourself or not was mostly luck, and that’s why you get so riled up by their responses - a (big) part of you knows they’re right and you didn’t really "earn" it.
Of course, had you made it from something legit like building+selling a business they’d likely still be seething, but you wouldn’t have such a chip on your shoulder about it
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>>62113225
This is because their self-worth is directly tied to how much they work. That's part of the reason. Another part is that they literally would be bored because they don't have a life outside their job. They wake up, they go to work and then they come home tired, they eat and go to sleep. That's the basic cycle and outside of that cycle there is nothing. Look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs. They're basically only able to cover the bottom 2 or 3. They literally have never lived, their only way of living is through their job. I had a co-worker once who like crashed out and said "I have nothing except for work". He lived at his parents, he was like 23, and I think his parents actually were a bit abusive and the thing was. At work we always had fun, joked around, respected each other, believed in each other, we really were good to each other. So, what happens is people get belittled at home and then that's why work becomes their life because at work everyone is trying their best to have a loving relationship. At least that's how it was where I worked. So in a sense, his work colleagues were nicer to him than his own parents (PROBABLY. I'm not a 100%). The thing is, people get thrown into the fucking rate race and they don't even see that they're empty and that they have no interests outside of working and eating. Everyone's asleep living in a self-made prison while being proud of the prison, where they exist in a state of schizophrenia being the prisoners and the prison guards at the same time. People need to start waking up and realizing that there's more to life than working. Work shouldn't be the #1 priority. The #1 priority should always be your own emotional state. What do I mean by that? If I put you into a cave somewhere into the Himalayas with some food then that should be enough. Staring at a white wall shouldn't make you bored. Joy, peace and contentment should come outside of you. You should be the one generating all of that, from inside yourself.
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>>62114332
> My wife will keep working until she's 85 because she actually likes her work so we'll always have income.
Would she do her job for free?
>>62114523
> Some of us actually need to do important things to not feel bored
10% of Americans have 1m.
2.5% have 1m excluding a home. What important things are you talking about?
And if you are rich, there is a point where majority of jobs are a net loss. Please explain.
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>>62116023
> They literally have never lived
This. Like how can someone say
>i would be bored without my job
> People need to start waking up and realizing that there's more to life than working.
We have entered a new affordability crisis and most people are worse off than before 2020 or even 2025
>>62114372
He retired at 65 lol. A lifelong worker with no lifestyle.
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>>62113225
Envy is an extremely powerful emotion and nothing you say will override that feeling in wagies. Even if they don't show it directly, there will be resentment. And in many cases, they will use that resentment as justification to try to take advantage of you financially.
That's why most trustfund babies are instructed by their parents to always pretend to have a job when they interract with the unwashed masses.
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>>62116119
>And in many cases, they will use that resentment as justification to try to take advantage of you financially.
Wagies have no financial power hence why they are stuck waging and get taken advantaged of by capitalism.
>>62114525
Not true, then why do wagies like the weekend?
>>62114506
>Of course, had you made it from something legit like building+selling a business they’d likely still be seething, but you wouldn’t have such a chip on your shoulder about it
Implying building a crypto portfolio isn’t building something. You buy crypto and sell it. Lol what. Sounds like cope.
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>>62114547
True. Majority of people are born into working class lives and by the time if they even do retire, they are still poor with nothing to show for it.
>>62114332
> a wife to fuck
Gross
> and 4 kids under age 10
Why do you have 4 kids if you’re not rich? Pretty selfish. Very selfish. This is how generational poverty starts…4 kids aged 10 growing up in today’s hyper slavery world. Wtf? Even if you had 10 million, 2 kids max for providing them a high sol
>I am not rich enough to retire at 40 unfortunately. I need the job for money.
If I had some serious money, I dunno, even 1 million, I could and would retire
So you know you’re not rich and you have 4 kids throwing them into the world like this. You do know all the struggling adults today came from families like yours right?
>My wife will keep working until she's 85 because she actually likes her work so we'll always have income.
This is crazy. I think your family is literally the “normal American family.” (at best) That is terrible bro. No shade but think from an outside perspective. Very irresponsible.
>>62114506
The world today is literally catered for get rich without a job schemes mainly gambling. You’re probably a coping working class or ex working class dude.
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You haven't explained what you do every day that you are retired.
I could definitely retire now and be happy as I just spend the last 3 months without a job before starting work again recently.
Part of the reason I would be perfectly content is that I have so many plans and things I'd like to do an accomplish that I can't because I'm in work.
If I was 25 I don't think I would be mentally in a good enough place to figure out retirement so if you can then hats off. I feel a lot more comfortable with the idea 10 years later.
Frustrating thing is I could've been retired in 2021 but didn't sell and here we are. Still did pretty well but could be better
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>>62114332
Your family is like a family from the 50’s where your children can get jobs and make a living.
But this is 2026. Crazy. But I guess they are near 10, and the crazy wealth gap and economy changed a lot in 2020 and more so now.
Like people under 30 now cannot get jobs and people over 30 are working more for less or doing lower level jobs. College is a scam unless your parents are professionals and they can afford it
>>62116223
> You haven't explained what you do every day that you are retired.
It doesn’t matter. I always say
>elon musk and trump have loads of time to shitpost. i definitely have time also.
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>>62113225
You are retarded for even saying this shit to normies. Normies are extremely prone to jealousy and will hate you for being successful. You need to find a new circle that matches your status as a extremely succcesful young man.
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>>62117773
> Why are you talking about money?
Economy, for fun.
>I talked about important things like helping other people, keeping society running, creating culture, coming up with new stuff ect.
I am almost 40 and never had to work.
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>>62113225
I retired last year at 36. Until now, I've been presenting it as my taking an indefinite break from work while I travel the world. Normies get sick with envy and beg me for details. I don't want people to know I have a lot of money so I'll never say that I retired from work.
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>>62117808
I just like to talk about economy but as discussion goes on, normies tend to get triggered and emotional and the more they talk the more stupid they sound and more insults they throw. So eventually yeah.
Yesterday, I told someone top 2% of Americans is 2m. And he responded very angrily.
>top 2% is definitely not 2m heheheh
And he used chatgpt to pull up top 10% but chatgpt used household so top 20% is 1.9m but I was talking about individual.
Then we had to go and I couldn’t say the individual part and he walked away thinking he was right. He also does shift work so he had a day off. So yeah.
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basado
>>62113369
being retired doesnt mean being done wageslaving for schlomo goldensteinberg. it means checking out mentally from the race of life. what are you going to fucking do, coom and scroll tiktok all day? or are you going to produce something? there are very few hobbies that you as a 25 year old man can throw yourself into that, if you are really passionate about, could not count as hard work. if you mean youre retired from ever exerting effort or working hard, then your coworkers are right. youve lost
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>>62113225
Same here, retired in late 30s. People ask me what I do all day, movies, anime, series, video games, cooking, music. Learn something new. They are like agh that so boring, you must be very miserable it must be boring just staying at your house. I start telling them about my luxury travels around the world. Is priceless seeing the change in their faces to just bitterness.
My only problem nowadays is you cant hang out with friends like before. Some families invite me to their travels but it feels weird. Like we just have to follow their kids wherever they want to go.
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>>62117977
you have it backwards. you think a hedonistic life of luxury is the life you should strive to. you should be striving towards a fulfilling life. for basically everyone, that means good brain stimulation. theres a reason that people who live the longest are active through their geriatric age and retire late--event after passing the point of needing to work to live
retiring = ceasing work, regardless of motivation. if you equate working to wageslaving, you are a slave even in the confines of your own fucking brain
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>>62113225
You'd be surprised how dependent the average man is on working and I don't just mean financially. It shapes everything about them. At my workplace half the people who retire die within a year or two. They can't handle freedom and the responsibility it entails. Nothing sadder than a man forced into retirement only to drink himself to death out of boredom. Many such cases. Sad.
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Same thing happened to me. I tapped out at 29 after stacking ~2.7M between index funds and a couple rentals. Not even crazy numbers, just lived below means and didn’t panic sell.
Told a group at a BBQ and got the exact same script:
>“what do you even do all day”
>“I’d go insane without work”
>“must get boring”
Meanwhile I wake up when the sun feels right, make a slow coffee, get a lift in, mess around on guitar for a while, read something decent, maybe book a random trip if I feel like it, check my accounts for an hour or two a week and close the laptop. The rest of the time is just mine.
The disconnect is they can’t separate *having structure* from *being owned*. If you remove the job, they have nothing left so they assume you won’t either.
Reality is once your time is yours again, you realize how small their world is. They’re not defending work, they’re defending the fact they don’t have a choice.
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>>62113225
Normies unironically enjoy working for the sake of working. They would do it for free if they could (and most do in the form of unpaid overtime)
For normies, labor and leisure are one and the same. There's no difference to them
It's why jews (and some autists) are an objectively superior race of humans because they're the only ones who can see beyond the material world and pursue ideals. They're the only human beings who look at grueling manual labor and think "nah there's got to be more to life than this, I should be better than this." Contrast this with normies who salivate at the opportunity to do unpaid back breaking sweat and toil all day to give themselves "meaning." Doesn't mean jews are good, they're actually quite evil people obviously but still far superior in every way to your average goy cattle who can't think beyond this weekend's local goyball game.
I'm being dead serious with you when I say that normies genuinely thank god every day for the opportunity to commute 2 hours every day at 6 am because "dude id be so bored otherwise"
As much as I hate jews, there's simply nobody as contemptible as normies.
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>>62118300
>laptop
Why don’t you have a desktop?
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>>62113225
Do not talk with normies about this. In fact, do not talk with normies at all. It's useless. Except trivialities perhaps. Weather. Hollidays. That's it. >>62113482
Listen. Since you do not get it, read what aristotle said about natural slaves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_slavery
The sooner you get this, the better.
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>>62118322
In the end, the "elite" and the goycattle work hand in hand. Aristotle was right. The "elite" (master) is the head, and the goycattle (natural slave), the body. The body is happy to move as the head commands.
Now, the problem happens when someone that is not a natural slave, finds himself in a slave job. He will be unhappy.
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>>62113225
yes, ive had this convo with two frens who got laid off and immediately got a job when the state was offering them 9 months of unemployment
i just cant understand
>yea it gets boring tho
i really think some people are just bred and born to be serfs
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It’s not about being bored, it’s about purpose.
Most people don’t get to decide their purpose in life, but having purpose and meaning to life is an essential psychological anchor for humans. By saying you don’t work and you’re just “retired”, it confuses them not because they’re wagies but because you’re revealing that you’re living without a purpose.
Every single person ITT complaining about “normies”, “wageslaves”, and “goy cattle”, none of you are any better. You only want to be able to “retire” so you don’t have to work anymore and can engage in aimless hedonism and mental onanism
>Nah bro if I was retired I’d lift weights all the time and read books and play instruments I’d basically be a Greek philosopher
Pure mental masturbation. You’re not striving for anything, you’re just spending your time becoming the smartest, best-looking future corpse you can be. It’d be one thing if you became a writer or a musician or an athlete with the spare time, but you’re just doing nothing when it comes down to it. The truth is that you’re just as empty as any of the people you deride.
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>>62116023
See? Mental masturbators living in a little hedonistic, solipsistic existence.
I thank God every day for giving me a purpose in life, the talent to do it, and the luck to be successful at it so I’m neither a wage slave not a mental masturbator.
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>>62118322
> They're the only human beings who look at grueling manual labor and think "nah there's got to be more to life than this, I should be better than this."
Like what, jerking off to loli hentai everyday like you do?
Jews are talentless wretches that parasite society because they have no abilities of their own, not because they’re some ascended genius race. It’s why Jews are always to the forefront of sexual deviance and pornography, even with all that free time they can’t think of anything better to do than fuck and cum and jerk off.
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>>62118611
Sounds like cope. Most people with a job wish they could stop working.
>>62118632
But how can they put me down? They have jobs.
>>62118611
> I thank God every day for giving me a purpose in life, the talent to do it, and the luck to be successful at it so I’m neither a wage slave not a mental masturbator.
And what is your purpose? This is /biz/ btw so growing wealth is all that matters here so dont go metaphysical on me.
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>>62118623
>Like what, jerking off to loli hentai everyday like you do?
Actually escaping the wage cage makes people better. Better to become no fap, reading, meditating, living healthy, doing outdoors activities.
Now we get it, you have a particular talent, a skill, with which you make an honest living. But not many have a real talent. We have been conditionned to work as wage slaves. How could we have developped a unique talent? The stress to be good at studies, and then at work, is exactly the kind of stress that fucks up your ability to develop a talent, a unique skill. You focus your early life on being an efficient wage slave, then you get totally disgusted by it, and then you expect us to somehow have a great talent at something in our late twenties/ early thirties?
>you’re just spending your time becoming the smartest, best-looking future corpse you can be.
There are spiritual practices, done daily, that are not going to the mass, that grow not your body, but your spirit. But you sound like a trad christian so you wouldn't get it.
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>>62118611
> Every single person ITT complaining about “normies”, “wageslaves”, and “goy cattle”, none of you are any better.
Of course we are better. Not sure why you’re going so spiritual. 90% of people with jobs wish they could stop working.
Retired people don’t need to work. What they do after retirement isn’t part of the conversation. You’re just a stupid old larper. Why work when you get paid to do whatever you want?
That’s why I always ask people
>would you do your job if you didn’t get paid?
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tell people what they ought to be doing instead then
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>>62118669
> And what is your purpose?
To develop technology and systems that will allow me to fight the powers that be of this world using the enterprise I’m building
>growing wealth is all that matters here
To grow wealth as its own end or to just indulge in a comfortable life is shallow
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>>62118778
Idk. I don’t care.
I am having so much and constantly on party mode.
One thing I noticed is whenever I get fired from a job, it is like dopamine floods back into my body. Kinda like being drunk or high but without intoxication is the default state of a person and having a job takes that away.
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>There are spiritual practices, done daily, that are not going to the mass, that grow not your body, but your spirit. But you sound like a trad christian so you wouldn't get it.
NTA but what practices would you recommend?
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>>62113225
Work give meaning to life anon.
Those who don't work have no purpose.
That doesn't mean to be a slave for mr. Goldberg though.
I ran my own business during Covid.
I was working more hours that ever and loved every bit of it.
100% of my efforts went into making more money for myself.
The feeling that you get is insane.
Everything I put in I got out, all 100% of it.
I get why dudes sell their business for millions.
Then start up a new one soon after.
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>>62119027
For boomers that's what retirement means.
Boeing employees for example: have a 18month average lifespan after retiring.
They just watch TV and eat+ Drink.
Then die.
It's sad, but not having to pay for their $5,000+ a month pensions is nice I guess
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>>62113225
I also retired at around your age thanks to getting lucky with crypto.
As other people have stated, it's likely because they think your life lacks purpose. I just say that I'm a freelance programmer if anyone asks me what I do for a living.
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>>62118778
Your advice is worthless, my purpose isn't raking dirt and driving a skid steer, it's cooking three meals a day and enjoying walks and flowers and birds. I already know because I used to have a wfh job and got a taste of retirement. I'm going to make a ton of money so I can retire and live a simple life and I'm halfway there.
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>>62113225
>Then another guy chimes in and says
>>I would be so bored if I had nothing to do
You have to understand, Normies have to be told what to think and what to do. otherwise they just stare at the TV vacantly.
I could easily retire and keep myself busy. I'm happiest when i'm unemployed and focused on my own learning and crafts.
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>>62119139
> I could easily retire and keep myself busy. I'm happiest when i'm unemployed and focused on my own learning and crafts.
Obviously. I am retired and there still isn’t enough time in a day. Normies are so pathetic and honestly, they should be mocked just for their attitude and arrogance.
>>62119110
Yeah that guy is some larper. Tons of those on 4chan. Middle aged married loser males living in rural or suburban shithole.
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>>62119095
> As other people have stated, it's likely because they think your life lacks purpose.
The guys working shift work who has a day off in the middle of the week thinks my life lacks purposes. lmaoo. Even funnier if they have shifts at 4pm or overnights. lmao. The funniest shit is they have days off meaning they have low value jobs.
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It's a massive mistake to ever tell anyone you're retired, just say self employed / freelance and have some bullshit title for it.
I pick fruit for my one uncle and fix houses for the other, and that's my line, self employed. Sounds a lot better than me saying I only hold enough work to just get by. You aren't retired, you're a freelance investor.
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>>62114419
I'm also a landcucked house-slave, the cheapest land in my area is 10k and it's owned by some dude in canada who's unfindable and it's .25 acres, so 40k per acre.
I could buy said land but I'd have to pull said 10k out of my investments + closing costs + track the guy down all to buy land he has never stepped foot on that's in a flood zone.
Everyone has those big suburban backyards here so land is a premium, with everyone having .25 acre parcels and their house taking up 1/2 of it there's not a single piece of cheap land in the entire small town since it's all owned piecemeal by people who fence it off and don't use it.
We're the only house on the block that has a garden, I think.
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>>62118279
It's simply not possible, the math doesn't add up
>Wake up
>Probably 1/2 hour to wake up and eat breakfast and do morning stuff, effectively all time used for work
>Go to work, work, go home - 9 hours minimum including commute and lunch and possibly the shower after manuel labor
>9.5 of your hours are already gone
>Relax and take a load off, 11.5 hours gone and you've accomplished nothing
>Eh, might as well burn the rest of the time you can't really get truly stuck into anything in only a few hours, still need time to sleep
>Also the sun has already set so you can't go for a walk or do anything outside really besides meaningless bars / parties
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>>62119365
Bro I just wont give information and if they google and say they cannot find it then who cares?
Most people username is different from real name anyway and it isn’t easy finding models unless they are like really popular.
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>>62113225
Well they're seething. I retired at 32.
>spent a few months roadtripping USA
>spent three months in europe
>spent a month visiting family, a month snowboarding, and another month chilling
>back to europe
>wound up spending two years back and forth in europe visiting every art museum
>snowboarding for a month every year
>finished that, now I'm a fiction author
>finding small success on patreon, enough to pay groceries and massively extend my runway
It doesn't get better when you have a good answer to "what do you do all day" because they don't want an answer. They just want to take you down a peg. They want to hear you're day drinking and getting into drugs and fucking gutter hoes and living in filth because you don't have a reason to get up and shower and dress nice and commute and work for shlomo, like they do.
Really the winning move is to code shift. If you're with the peasants, pretend to be between jobs and scrimping. If you're with the middle class entrepreneurs, talk about your trades and business ideas and hustles. If you're with the truly wealthy, discuss the higher pursuits: the art you're creating and consuming, the travel, the time spent outside touching grass, and so on.
What you DON'T want to do is brag about wealth to the lower class. They love to talk. You may not tell a thug you're crypto rich, but SOMEONE will tell a thug and you just painted a target on your back for no reason. To my poorfag family, I've been "burning savings and hustling for petty cash" for the last few years and they think I'm going to show up any day now with a bullshit salary job or news I'm going back to school for a masters or some shit. And that's how I like it. Every wealthy person who hears that knows IMMEDIATELY that I'm lying, and they know why and play along.
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>>62113225
I work at TSLA, we had a tech support guy come back after retiring. He was in his 40s. He was a multi-millionaire from his stock vesting.
People are dull as shit op. They have nothing aside from TV in their lives. Total NPCs.
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>>62119680
Pretty npc. Definitely no life outside of work and never built a lifestyle and also never bothered to try and build a lifestyle after retiring.
>>62119674
Interesting. Yet you have anime pics.
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>>62119716
>Interesting. Yet you have anime pics.
Obviously. It's an anime website, faggot.
Also anime is high art.
>>62119711
I tend not to do that because most people, regardless of class, are utterly retarded on health. And they think the same of me. It's a complete waste of time other than vaguely encouraging people to be "healthy."
>>62119707
Not in my experience. Every poorfag I know either makes enough money to support themselves and start making it, but they spend too much and refuse to stop; or they aren't working out of laziness and constantly making excuses. I even tell these latter poorfags I don't care, they don't need to cap to me about why they're not working, but they insist on it. It's not for me, it's for them and their own psychological well-being and self-delusion I suppose. I just nod along and change the subject asap when it happens now.
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>>62114523
> Some of us actually need to do important things to not feel bored. Not everyone is an autist who is endlessly entertained by playing with toys like a child.
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>>62119696
>Caring about anime pics on 4chan.
Leave tourist.
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>>62119879
It's not healthy to be stuck in the past, grow up nigga
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>>62113225
>Wtf is wrong with normal people? “Bored if nothing to do?” This guy’s life is his job?
What?
They're defending their ego that you just unintentionally attacked
Why would you even say that to normies and expect a positive response? Lmao
Why do so many people, like OP, just say things without thinking about what it will achieve.
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You shouldn't be surprised that NPC cattle behaves like NPC cattle, these people dont even have an inner monologue, they are literally scared to be alone with themselves, they cant imagine doing something outside of work and consoooming
What do you do with your time? I think in lots of cases people do stuff they enjoy which eventually leads to them doing business/self employed doing said thing, which isnt bad imo they dont need to do it but enjoy it
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>>62113225
55 more years to go, wagie
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>>62113225
>retired at 25
OP says this but what he means is he stopped working and still lives with his parents.
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>>62113225
Yeah, I had people tell me the same after they asked me what I'm doing with all my money and I said investing for an early retirement
>Lol, what would you even use all that time on?
Most people are born to be drones, there's no real point in seeing them as anything else than that.
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I don't even understand the whole boredom argument that normies have. Okay even if you are totally bored without work, isn't it still better than the pain of being in the wage cage?
The only explanation I have for this and for the entirety of normie psychology that actually neatly fits is that theyre just masochists.
Just plain ol perverted masochists who get off on the idea of being a slave
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>>62120490
No the truth is much simpler, they are merely coping when they say such things. Pretending to need employment because they would be bored without it prevents them from having to come to terms with the sad reality that an employer is in control of all aspects of their lives, from the time they get up and sleep to the amount of time they spend in traffic and how much they have to spend on gas, to how much time they have (or don't have) to cook healthy tasty food, preventing them from pursuing meaningful interests that they always dreamed about but never got around to, and so on. Such talk is a cope from ever having to come to terms with or take responsibility for their sad situation.
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>>62120490
People don’t have an internal sense of direction anymore, modernity destroyed it. Imagine an ant with no colony, what the hell is it supposed to do on its own? Tell a normie that their options in life are truly infinite and they’ll come back to you with an excuse justifying their banal way of living. It’s honestly a basic point hammered by many of great thinkers. One example is Nietzsche in his last men vs super man discourse (and for anyone ITT that thinks they’re above it all, unless you embody it, you’re no super man…lots of intelectual masturbators here). A better and more psychological example is from Lacan. People live as if the “big other” exists, when it doesn’t. The only positive ethic according Lacan is to live life according to your desire and accept “lack” (the fact that your desire will never be fulfilled because desire circulates, not completes). Blah blah just do whatever you want with your time and don’t just mindlessly accept a structure like a cuck.
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>>62113273
I mean I work a pretty important job that dozens (I know Kek) of people rely on for a pay check so if I retire, I would immediately be ending the careers of ~20 guys who would have to find new jobs. In fact I would also be giving up before I actually “made it” so to speak.
Plus people beed the thing I’m selling so doing so would make them more expensive
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>>62113225
I think I would get bored and/or go full hedonist, but that's just due to my personality traits. If I won the stock lottery I would genuinely just keep working and enjoy my job 10x more because I would be able to ignore the money aspect and all the bullshit it entails and enjoy the parts that made me go learn it in college.
If you have the means, the personality to live a decently productive life (as in fully enjoying your day to day and living experiences, not jewish shit like generating revenue or [[[[value]]]] ) I see no reason why you'd want to work unless you also found something you'd enjoy doing even if you didn't need the money from it.
I think the hyper toxic culture where you HAVE TO be always working and reaching "higher" proffessionally is one of the worst things that has happened to human culture. All it does is promote psychopaths and jaded bitter people into positions of power.
A lot of people really need to take their job less seriously. There's barely anyone out there whose job couldn't be done equally as well or better by millions of people that could replace them at a moment's notice. When someone dies, people remember the person, not the worker.
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>>62113225
The founder of the company at my old job still works even though he is 95 and his kids bought him out. He just works an hourly wage like the rest of the wagies. The guy is worth millions and works for about $30 an hour. I retired from there at 27 when I sold my bitcoin in 2018.
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>>62118267
How old is that study? Or over what field of work? 65 is normal retirement age and average life expectancy is ~78. Those two things don’t line up.
I do find it interesting it’s basically an IQ chart too, showing that smarter people live longer. If you’re smart or responsible enough to retire at 55, you’re smart or responsible enough to take care of your body too. And able to find fulfillment outside work.
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>>62118611
> >Nah bro if I was retired I’d lift weights all the time and read books
I do that now. Swap play instruments with video games and shoot. I do that now AND work. The work is pretty gay compared to my hobbies. I’d love more time for them.
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>>62118778
> To develop technology and systems that will allow me to fight the powers that be of this world using the enterprise I’m building
A vague, meaningless statement. If you have taken actionable steps to do that, you’d be more specific.
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>>62113225
No idea why this thread is full of assmad retards. If you truly did retire at 25, good on you. I hope your motivations and pursuits are fulfilling for the rest of your days. Ignore the crabs in the bucket, and do not cast pearls before swine.
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>>62122463
All the assmad people are either wagies or those that retired from work and are 45+.
>muh purpose in life
>muh bored without work
>muh you waste all your days doing nothing
>muh what you even do in your free time
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>>62113225
the thing is if you're financially retired at 25 nothing stops you from taking a job and just going there to have fun and meet people. You can literally choose to be any career that agglomerates the types of people that you like. Being retired at 25 just means that you can do whatever you want for the rest of your life and nothing can stop you.
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>>62122752
> You can literally choose to be any career that agglomerates the types of people that you like
I dont like people that HAVE to work. They are full of anger, resentment and stress. Waking up at 6am 5 days a week is enough to make most people bitter. That and the 8 hours at work.
This week, for the first time in months, I was doing stuff before 12pm. I was up making breakfast at 10am and I felt like I was still sleeping and groggy. I had to flashbacks to when I had a job.
I don’t want to be around stressed working class people. Going to work week after week after week after week is enough to kill anyone’s spirit. I don’t want to be around spiritually dead people.
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>>62122804
> I like people who are under 40, well off, no need to work for a living, fit, free, educated and from wealthy families.
I dont like these people because of the things listed. I like these people for their mindset and outlook on life.
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>>62121037
>The founder of the company at my old job still works even though he is 95 and his kids bought him out.
That’s different. I wouldn’t do that, but I understand that. It’s his company, his kids run it. There’s a huge personal connection to it and he’s emotionally invested. That IS his hobby and that’s very different than wageslaving.