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>>62118827
How is he wrong? 99% of bitcoins problems could be solved by rolling out a new identity provider OK'd by major financial institutions and the EU, forced KYC at the wallet level with things like face scans and digital ID to ensure the right person is the one accessing the wallet and they're not a sanctioned individual, and then just freeze all the legacy wallets until they've updated to the new identity provider. It's seriously that easy to fix bitcoin and it also becomes quantum safe too.

>>62118846
kys fed

>>62118846
>>62118827
Boot all of them from the team

>>62118827
Quantum computing is one trillion light years away from being able to break sha256 encryption.

>>62118846
Based and safepilled. Think of all the available insurance you'd be able to purchase in this regulated paradise as well. I'm so excited for you wholecoiners.

>>62118858
it's not sha256, but ecdsa. many early wallets have had their public key exposed, which can be used to compute the secret scalar using shor's algorithm. but we're still quite far from a quantum computer capable of doing this

>>62118827
>BIP
lol

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>>62118827
>BIP
lmao
>>62118846
bitcoin has no problems
>>62118853
what team? lmao
>>62118858
>>62118902
quantum computing is not real and it will never be real
logical qubits defy entropy, they're literally impossible to build at any technological level
and yes, SHA2 is "quantum safe" because grover only reduces the brute force by half, but you still have 128bits of entropy which would take trillions of years

anyway, shor will never be run on a quantum computing
we will, in centuries, arrive at classical computers capable of maybe running shor at a level that can get "lucky in a century of runtime"
quantum computing will never run shor
in fact, quantum computing will never factor the number 4

>>62118827
Why not allow the inventors of quantum computers to take those coins? Don't they deserve them? If Satoshi is alive, he can move them to a quantum-resistant wallet. If not - I believe he wouldn't mind that some scientists will inherit his wealth.

>>62118943
Kek im quite sure the price would tank by atleast 80% thats why

>>62118827
>nukes are real
>quantum nonsense is real
>moon landings are real
kek

>>62118827
Kek

>>62118827
Quantum computing is a scam and they know it. The universe won't allow us a shortcut. Noise grows exponentially with qubits (to the point it's unusable), and supercooling means it will never be energy-efficient except in outer space.
Just like entangled particles won't allow us to transfer information faster than light; Einstein already thought we'd try that and clarified it's not a workable hack.

Test

>>62118827
But its not dormant, people randomly send coins to his genesis wallets fairly regularly. Its actually a method of burning coins since putting coins in early era wallets that are known to be unused decreases the available supply which theoretically increases the price of the available coins.

>>62118865
Its still not safe because the bitcoin network is not actually owned by anyone, so its not illegal to attack it since you aren't attacking anyone with any legal claim on anything, it would be "safe" if a nation state made their own blockchain that they claimed ownership of and insured with their national resources, but then it would be antithetical to the intentions of the bitcoin project.

>>62118923
>we will, in centuries, arrive at classical computers capable of maybe running shor
that's not possible, shor's algorithm as a solution to ecdsa is only plausible if a computer can simulate all points on the curve simultaneously, which is only possible with quantum computation. the state obtained from the quantum computation is then decomposed with a classical computer to determine the secret scalar.
>>62118943
censoring satoshi's wallets is only part of the solution. updating to a quantum-safe signing algorithm requires all users to transfer funds to a new address. since satoshi presumably can't access his many hundreds of wallets, he wouldn't be able to participate. And if the chain is hardforking to counter quantum computers, then it makes little sense to leave this problem only partially solved

>>62118846
lololol you've got it wrong, btc and crypto is exactly the opposite of that and nobody cares what authorities think or say
you can all go and fuck each other

>>62118827
>>62118846
>>62118851
bitcoin is not an anonymous coin
it's an investment
if you want sth to run from the feds use monero
btc should have face id etc

>>62118943
Western scientist wouldn't be the one to get them. Hacking a wallet would still be illegal here even if you could. Fuxking dimwits.

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>>62119981
This. The leap of logic is so fucking stupid. We're supposed to believe that, in the event that quantum computing is even possible, the first lab to make one are going to utilize it in petty crime to steal BTC? Gotta be a fuckin tard.

>>62119599
>Noise grows exponentially with qubits (to the point it's unusable),
they add coirrection codes

>and supercooling means it will never be energy-efficient except in outer space.
1) no, achieving <1 K or what ever in lab is possible
2) so do it in earth orbit. or even do it in space (in decades) but still no

>>62118923
>we will, in centuries, arrive at classical computers capable of maybe running shor at a level that can get "lucky in a century of runtime"
this is how we know you have no idea what you talk about

>btc should have face id etc
you are a retardo
coinjoin = anonymity

>>62118827
QC is worthless. Less than worthless, even. Only fraudsters will try to tell you it is ready for anything for reasons that are super simple for anyone who knows the math but sound like nonsense to normies: If your qbits are not entangled with each other. ALL of them.

>>62118846
What the fuck would be the point in BTC if it became that pozzed.

>>62119444
oh no?!

If quantum hackers are taking bitcorns then they’re probably state sponsored because goys can’t even afford ram

>>62120108
>If your qbits are not entangled with each other. ALL of them.


according to LLMs:

Today’s quantum computers have demonstrated Shor-like factoring only for tiny numbers:

15 3 × 5
21 3 × 7
35 5 × 7

These experiments used:

~5 to ~20 logical-equivalent qubits
BUT often with heavy simplifications (hybrid tricks, compiled circuits)

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ooo look at me im a cypherpunk look at my dumb cypherpunk beard

>>62118827
What about solar freaking roadways? How will be protect against that huh?

>>62118827
Bitcoin is an abomination and all core developers are pedophiles

>>62118827
Nobody cares about a shitty dividend fork of Bitcoin.

>>62118846
Whatever. Vangardists will just move to an other chain. It's always like this. Reminder that Youtube was cool at the beginning. Even Google search gave really good results before delisting/censorship. Hell even Reddit had plenty of contrarian subreddits, full of informations. When something becomes normalized, it turns to shit.

>>62119448
Oh since we are onto this:
>Space is real
>viruses are real
>Dinosaurs are real
>Mainstream historical chronology by Joseph Scalinger is real
>Heliocentrism is real
>Satellites we see in the sky are real

>>62120025
>btc should have face id
when did I ever say that, retard?

>>62119731
>that's not possible, shor's algorithm as a solution to ecdsa is only plausible if a computer can simulate all points on the curve simultaneously, which is only possible with quantum computatio
that's true
the problem still remains, it's impossible to achieve that because of entropy, not because of any engineering issue

>>62119969
>bitcoin is not an anonymous coin
it's pseudonymous
>btc should have
irrelevant what you think
my node, my rules

>>62120863
>Today’s quantum computers have demonstrated Shor-like factoring
they have not
all factoring done by supposed quantum machines were
>fed the answer
>or used a classical hybrid setup which defeats the whole purpose of the machine itself
the actual number of logical qubits built is ZERO
a quantum computer (it's not a computer) has not factored the number 4 yet

>>62121988
>>Dinosaurs are real
All the "bones" you see in museum are plaster.

>>62118827
Based. Less supply the better