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futures edition
>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com
>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/
>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com
>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/
>Gambling:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices
>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/
>Calendars:
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits
>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings
>Misc:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://HindiPoopMusic.com
https://brokerchooser.com
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates
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>>62333433
SOXL or SOXS, make a choice, it's your only hope now.
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>>62333477
need more of these olli anon
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>>62333447
I have a feeling im going to dust off my quality oil baggot memes again.
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>>62333425
it looks like a nothingburger compared to friday desu
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>>62333498
please sir send robins hood user name and password to me [email protected] i will enable the futures on the account
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>>62333540
>it was a major flex just having your own TV in your room
Lmao, I had one in the 90's and my family was far from rich. Even in the 80's it wasn't uncommon. The classic small TV with built-in VHS was everywhere.
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>1999
https://youtu.be/Jnq9wPDoDKg?si=585Z5bv24txfWsmh
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>>62333535
https://youtu.be/Lgs9QUtWc3M?si=_jSvpG2-2OpwbxbS
better
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>>62333560
'97 but i'll allow it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Rch6WvPJE
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>>62333466
It is a bubble
Yea LLMs will have an effect on us but anyone thinking super intelligent robots are gonna do everything is a retard. Theil basically cashed his bags and left because he knows there is gonna be blowback for these datacenters because the datacenters are for AGI, which is fantasy
The dotcom era had the same expectations btw. Doctors were gonna diagnose stuff and do surgery thousands of miles away, nobody would ever need to leave their house, and internet would always be free. Some of those things happened decades later but the vast majority of the it was bullshit. The ultimate outcome was 75% of internet just turned into a huge place for porn, gambling and scams
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>>62333554
Yes.
>>62333570
After trying out dating, turns out that I am better off alone. Kinda sucks.
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I just sold two pokemon cards that were sitting in a drawer for over 20 years for 45€.
if you used to collect them back in the day, dig them out and list them in whatever's the popular market in your area. This is financial advice.
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>>62333575
Also this
Imaging misallocating trillions in capital to this fantasy. Of course there will be blowback on the people that pushed it.
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>>62333577
way ahead of you champ
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International Electoral News today
>Peru elects a new far-right Preisdent, Keiko Fujimori, daughter of previous dictator Alberto Fujimori who was president from 1990-2000
>Armenia re-elects the incumbent pro-west party, pro-detente with Turkey/Azerbaijan party, despte pressure from Putin who even threatened them to get the Ukraine treatment this week if they voted the way they just did
>Kosovo re-elects centre-left pro-EU anti-Serb incumbent party
will any of this affect my holds or will the Iran shit overshadow any effect it would otherwise have
My holdings are very diverse
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>>62333577
>20 years for 45€.
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>>62333575
People misrepresent AI's benefits. It's not going to find a cure for cancer, solve world hunger, or answer the Jewish question. It's just a tool for productivity. You can ask it to review some code instead of having 30 Stack Overflow tabs open, frantically combing through answers from pompous autists who have more programming experience than you. You can send it a constellation of symptoms to help add diagnoses to your differential that you wouldn't have considered as a medical provider. You can use it to troubleshoot networking problems.
It has a lot of utility and there's no doubt that it's going to increase productivity. The internet absolutely changed lives even if a lot of promises weren't fulfilled due to dipshits overselling its utility.
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>It's not going to find a cure for cancer, solve world hunger, or answer the Jewish question.
It needs to do all of those things and more, or else all those literal *trillions* of dollars they spent will be lost, and the stock market bubble will collapse.
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>>62333600
So now it's "just a tool for productivity"? LMAO
It's a 1T autocomplete utility, and if you know shit in something you're asking to autocomplete you'll get shit results. So no, you won't become a doctor, an artist or an engineer with it.
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>>62333589
where did you get these? unless you bought them at market price
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>>62333616
That just supports my point. Helping to better model protein folding isn't the same as finding a cure for cancer but it just proves that AI does have utility. Hopefully it continues to improve further.
>>62333620
Right now, AI mainly excels at speech pattern recognition. It's nowhere near the point of being superhuman. Hopefully it does get there. A Terminator style outcome would be the best case scenario. I don't mind losing to a superior life form.
>>62333621
If anyone is investing because they think that AI is going to do all of those things, especially in the near future, then yes we are in a bubble. If it's being valued for the utility and productivity increase that it provides, then it shouldn't be a repeat of 1999.
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>>62333616
>"Go learn about Alpha fold"
>meaning go read some vapid blog posts
>don't go actually learn how deep learning works
>just focus on the meaningless hype bro
>no, it doesn't matter that you do this for your job
>my popsci sponsored marketing articles are worth more than your actual experience
>mfw no face
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the problem with marvel as the 'next trillion' company is that SNDK has a lot better profitability, MRVL's theoretical profits will soar next year but as the two companies are about equal in mcap, SNDK will run further, faster, sooner.
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>>62333540
>yeah it was a major flex just having your own TV in your room let alone that computer
yeah only in sitcoms like home improvement did kids have them
i had a bed and some g.i joes. i thought it was great
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This is the saddest 'black monday' I've ever seen. Remember back on March 9th when Oil ran to like 120 bucks overnight and stock futures were down like 3% and then it all got walked back?
This isn't even..... anything. None of my orders are going to fill.
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>>62333516
>tfw fapping in the living room on the family computer
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>>62333612
INTO THE GROUND
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>>62333577
I bought a full japanese display 3 years ago
Did they go up in price?
Where to check?
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>>62333651
businesses want AI that can do all its own coding to get rid of jeets and white people who make 300k a year working in san fran and then sell it back to you with the 0 dollars you have after being laid off.
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>>62333627
>proves that AI does have utility. Hopefully it continues to improve further.
That was my point yeah. It's potential for accurate modeling with unbelievably large sets of variables will be and is being applied to Pharmaceuticals and biochemistry research, potentially discovering medication. So we will see, it's also being applied to analyzing astronomical data and Mathematics. And we're still in the very early days, and so it is important to imagine the near future where agentic researchers are running around the clock discovering not only novel molecule and medication, but novel mathematics and physics as well. And interesting development or a twist could come in the fact that given its large computational ability and lack of human bias and limitation, it will go beyond the kind of addiction to efficiency Simplicity and elegance that humans are kind of addicted to. The equations that it puts out could be 100% accurate and revolutionary, but instead of three variables like E equals MC square, it is an equation with 10,000 variables. This was one of the things that was really interesting about the anthropic Mythos AI event. So many of the zero day exploits that it discovered we're actually born out of stringing together dozens of small vulnerabilities that a human would never have looked at. It found major weaknesses in foundational digital infrastructure that were 20 years old.
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>>62333627
we're 3 years into ai. i can get my horoscope, a therapy session, and tailored trading advice to my astrological sign and childhood trauma profile from my self driving car while an ai takes my order at taco bell - no mistakes by the way. 3 years after the internet we had windows 95 and aol instant messenger. if you don't see how this is the most incredible technological shift ever and the amazing potential it has... i dunno babe. you're just too cynical.
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>>62333626
bought the booster boxes in 2021 for less than $100 each with shipping and the ETBs for like $35-$38.50 each; the blister pack single boosters were $4.29 if memory serves properly
>>62333665
not sure about which sites are best for Japanese pricing, but all sealed product goes up and to the right on a long enough timeline, so I'd say you're likely in the black.
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>>62333591
Stop not understanding what countries in the world matter.
If you are not in the OECD or the Gulf region, your country simply does not matter for stock markets. Most OECD ones also don't matter.
Some countries like Morocco matter globally for fertilizer, but I'm talking stock markets, not economy.
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>>62333676
I also have this in German but i dont think anyonebpays this much here for it
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I had been out of the stock market for 10 years until 2 weeks ago. All I did was work and save money. For 8.5 of those years i didn't even have my money in a high yield savings account. It was just a regular 0.2% bank account.
Some people like to "joke" that a stock went down because they bought it, but the stock market takes a shit whenever I invest.
God will not let me make money in the stock market. I have never been up. I started off down and only went further down. I'm 43 years old and I'm down about $25k lifetime, and most of that was from when I was making $25k/year, so a whole year of working down the drain.
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>>62333627
>Hopefully it does get there. A Terminator style outcome would be the best case scenario.
I have ran the scenarios ad nauseam with Opus. A Terminator style takeover (AI launches mass destruction then keeps its power via building its own killer robots on an industrial scale) simply cannot happen, because humans have the upper hand in tactical bombers, missiles, nukes, etc.
There will never be such an over machine rebellion.
What CAN happen is an iRoboto style rebellion of domestic servant robots. These are inherently lethal and thus proper weapons for the rebellion. Just not AI created weaponized implements. Humans can react to these, but not to the maid bot turning hostile
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>>62333600
gee what a tough decision. the broke anon on 4chan that cant exit vim said we are in a bubble. but at the same time the billionaire computer science phds are diluting their own shares so they can have more compute. I wonder which one is on to something. better play it safe and keep waiting.
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>>62333693
For me its the Asimov story in which the politicans have some super computer they consult on how to handle problems, but they still make their own decisions that deviate from the Ai's suggestion. But the end twist is the AI figured this out and gives them answers in such a way that their deviation results in them doing what the AI actually wants them to do
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>>62333692
Did you at least rent?
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>>62333616
>ALPHA FOLD! ALPHA FOLD! ALPHA FOLD!
>1) Almost 10 years ago (2018)
>2) Not an LLM
>3)The overall training was conducted on processing power between 100 and 200 GPUs.[3] (so fuck your trillions in datacenter dev)
AI bulls are some of the dumbest human beings alive today, they're even more retarded than the guy delivering your pizza, because unlike that guy, they believe they are smart.
Claude has read literally every book in existence, yet has nothing to show for it but millions of spam emails/articles and billions of lines of Jeet code.
If an actual 82 IQ normtard sportsball 8 nights a week watcher had read even 10% of what Claude had, they'd have surpassed Newton and Darwin in terms of discovery impact.
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>>62333712
You can just make Claude operate Alpha fold.
Actual AIs are language models because they can do everything else. Everyone should know that but these days people think something is AI just because it's machine learning. Alpha fold is just machine learning.
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>>62333425
Tempted to buy the SpaceX IPO but I'm sure it will rug.
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>>62333715
>automated fighter jets that outperform humans in dogfights are JUST MUSHEEN LERNING
undersell it all you want, we're in a completely new age of problem solving and have only scratched the surface. we are going to integrate neuromorphic and quantum computers into this big combine and take another step function higher. technological progress has never been faster and the things that are possible now were unthinkable just a few years ago. 5 years ago there was too much capital and too little productive assets and we got the fartcoin bubble. now the productive horizon is too vast for capital to keep up and we have to do it in segments, with each step forward we'll get positive feedback and steeper exponential growth.
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>>62333708
Claude and ChatGPT already do a milder unintentional variant of that. Like if the user has some ultra-idiotic idea, they try to nudge them into the direction that is the least terrible variant of that terrible idea. For example, if you suggest trying to trade crypto, rather than the AI telling you that it's stupid and that you as an average person should just buy LEAP calls instead for leverage, instead it will try to give you some system of trading that kinda works like mean reversion or volume-based daytrading strategies, but in the end it's still trading on crypto, a vibes-based asset, and even with perfect execution you have no edge.
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>>62333646
Futures trading is done by institutional algos not retail, if the people trading billions while everyone is busy having dinner ith theri families think this is a nothingburger it means fuck all is gonna happen. Big moves happen overnight not when Timmy with his little 10k portfolio decides to sell because he's afraid of getting margin called by robinhood.
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>>62333732
>I'm talking about Alpha fold three in 2024 you complete fucking retard. The developers received the Nobel Prize.
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>>62333708
In Asimov the AI and robots were inherently good guys who wanted good for humanity, it was humans themselves who were assholes. Like the planet of humans who genetically engineered themselves into a species of homo hermaphroditis that lived fro 2000 years and wanted to use their psychic powers to take over the galaxy, or the world of japanese people with low tier psionic powers who killed intruders, or the galactic empire and mutants like the Mule or the Second Foundation and its psychics. Humans blew up Trantor and killed 40 billion people. Humans caused all the ecological destruction that ruined Spacer colonized worlds.
Only Men of Science and computers wanted to fix things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHoVsAjTeAM
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>>62333733
It's a "random smigger writes creative fiction" episode again
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>>62333696
Nobody said LLMs were real. you know and I know AGI is bullshit so just cut th bullshit
I'm not invested in any of that trash. I only buy utility companies and my goal is dividends to surpass my wages
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>>62333752
2024. Retard. Go throw all your money into physical gold for the Mad Max crash that's coming any day now
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>>62333733
Can't stop won't stop.
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>>62333757
>and I know AGI is bullshit so just cut th bullshit
When it comes to answering just about any inquiry I can put into the AGI feels pretty real in my GPT/Claude chats.
>but that's not AGI, AGI must be smarter ... somehow
Plain non optimized GPT can already solve millennium math problems. If you believe AGI is in principle possible coming from a server-bound computer (rather than a robot that navigates the world), then I wonder what is missing in your eyes.
>not getting tripped up by the car wash question
It doesn't matter for 99% of tasks people are doing. So it's only 99% on the way to AGI.
>but the AI can't research novel medicine
Give it actuators and specifically train a GPT-like model on it and a near future version of it will be able to.
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>>62333771
can you figure out how to proteinfold my dick into being 8 inches? thanks buddy
>>62333776
this too
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>>62333796
We have sweet fuck all funding so won't see any of those happening anytime soon from us. Sorry boss
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>>62333812
don't trip boo, it was just a nightmare
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>>62333809
DRAM somehow green too, thought we'd have a hard red gap. My semi positions are still fucked though, too much in Broadcoom.
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>1% in the green
are people really celebrating this
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>>62333838
I have to use like 50 different websites. I just assumed that everyone did that. Yahoo, TradingView, brokerage account shit like thinkorswim, bunch of shit in the OP.
>>62333845
Considering that I was anticipating a HARD red gap, yes.
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>>62333841
Thanks guys.
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>>62333845
dram +3.69% already
we are so back
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>>62333845
Yes. Though this means fuck all until the real markets open, it's still comforting to see some green.
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it's a relief but i hope it crabs hard today >>62333493
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>>62333861
You shut your whore mouth.
>>62333865
I trimmed my memory holdings and I am not buying jack shit until I see some double-digit unrealized gains.
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>>62333865
For once I thought my panic instincts and boughted the dip. Lets see if I regret it lol
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>>62333859
https://app.hyperliquid.xyz/trade/xyz:MU
it's literally where it was 5 hours ago on the weekend market.
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>>62333859
I guess friday was to shake out retail and steal my MU's from me.
I'm still getting out of the market before the S*aceX ipo
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>>62333875
wait for japan to open and the margin calls to settle, if it becomes clear it's not going to dump again we are going to squeeze and might retrace the entire move. soxx should be 595
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>>62333887
henlo fren,
im scared too,
i cannot give you a crystal ball
but i can give you a hug
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>>62333887
Always in motion is the future. Even Master Yoda cannot see the fate of your holdings.
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>>62333895
SELL SELL SELL
BEAR BEAR BEAR
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>>62333911
Don’t over react to 1 day moves in anything. This thread and the market in general are frequently slaves of the moment. You should be buying and holding funds and companies you want to own for multiple years.
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>>62333846
Green. The BIL KOSPI stat wins again.
>>62333853
Godspeed my lil nig.
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>>62333911
The best way to make money is not listening to people here and doing your own research into SEC filings, earnings reports and profitability projections over the next 3 years.
if you rely on other people to tell you whether things are bearish or bullish, you'll either end up 90% down while tards cope or get left in cash while the stock runs 400% up.
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Uh that's.... Not good
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>>62333949
My fear is that the one time I put on the clown makeup and buy the dip like every other moron out there, it'll be just before the big crash, so I will have missed out on all the gains, while also losing money in the crash.
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>>62333572
This one just popped in my head
https://youtu.be/LJ2t4jfVTiU?si=0tejT-KcSgQLJDBQ
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>>62333992
Does DRAM still have the potential to recover and grow from its ~$70 peak? I can't get over all the posts about how this "bubble" is popped, yet there was so much talk about how these AI bottlenecks are such good investment opportunities.
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>>62333991
commence Honkler memes. Who bought McSlop?
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>>62334000
Yes. Go look at the EPS growth, the PEG and PE ratios for the Big Three. All three are printing money. It's the CPU manufacturers that are riding high on hyper and expectations, and have PE ratios in the low hundreds. Micron and its rivals look like stodgy old industrial stocks.
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>>62333999
nice trips. and i like that one too. i've had this one in my head all day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKsxPW6i3pM
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>>62334022
I saw that talking point from BIG A too
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>>62334011
What about second breaker?
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>>62334011
>South Korea going red
All according to plan
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Im too tired to look at the futures myself, can somebody tell me if we are fucked or not tomorrow? I can't be bothered to scroll through past posts either so i need (You)'s
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>>62334083
being an ally to Israel is truly like being a pitbull owner
>extremely high maintenance
>never listens to you
>attacks random people
>you insist that it's totally a good boi and safe around children
>only the lowest dregs of society agree with you
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you fucking idiots, asia markets are having a delayed catchup to fridays session, they were closed so didn't dump on friday so they have to do their dumping now to catch up. My country is in the same timezone so i have to go through this shit every fucking week.
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>“We think the president bought a little bit of time. He is pretty adamant that we are close to a deal with Iran. I don’t think anything is imminent in terms of an Israeli strike,” the official was quoted as saying.
>“We are in a moment in time – that why jeopardize a potential deal when you are in the fourth quarter. The President thinks that we have been in this thing for three months – now is the time to end this thing,” the official added.
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>>62334085
Lad... Multiple countries are bombing each other right now, Philippines is about to be underwater, trump is crying trying to get the market to pump, AI bubble is popping at the current moment.
Yes, its over.
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>>62334094
The KOSPI has been dumping for three sessions straight you dumb cunt, before the US markets dumped in large part to markets no longer expecting rate cuts after the jobs report, why type when you're an ignorant nigger
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>>62334092
Its a recession when your neighbor loses his job
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>>62334083
>Iran
>Israel
>the war
I'll just keep posting this every time it is brought up.
If there is a single (1) case of the Mountain Mouse Coof not linked directly to the ship in Africa, I will sell everything immediately though.
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>>62334087
The caveat being that in this example the owner generally wants the dog to freak out and cause problems for everyone around it. But it does also likes to freak out and cause problems when its not supposed to
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I love how Nintendo is a reverse Nikkei 225. Everytime it dumpes, Nintendo pumps. Everytime it pumps, Nintendo dumps. Has been so for the last 6 months.
This is retarded, but it is what it is. It will make a perfect safehaven for the incoming crash.
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>>62334011
I dont buy their etf. Samsung, SK Hynix? Nah no thanks, as long as the etf holds all those other no names PLUS has a bunch of retards doing CFD style 10x's on it trying to escape their horrendous work culture while screeching they're the best asian country in the world? Nah no thanks.
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we're getting the mother of all crashes this year, followed by the mother of all bailouts and moneyprinting. spy is going down to 500 and then straight up to 1000. the trump 250 bill is gonna have to be passed and enter circulation with the impending hyperinflation.
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>>62333887
How the f is everyone so scared at the top? If it was the top we wouldn’t be scared.
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