>>22049352
yes. what is the alternative? some stay at home wifey's husband-funded foodblog? The ai answers for how to do basic shit like ratios for pickling brine or pizza sauce are much better and more convenient than anything else you could click on.

>>22049352
No.

>>22049352
yeah, all the time, it's great. I'm past the point of cooking with recipes so I don't use it to generate whole recipes, just as a brainstorming partner and a platform to bounce ideas around.

>>22049362
>I'm past the point of cooking with recipes
this just means you're complacent and you only cook the things you know how to cook and never venture out of your comfort zone.

>>22049352
jesus, tf, absolutely not. AI needs to steal pre-written information, and shit like cooking is far too low level that sources are ubiquitous from both professionals, laymen, and dumbasses. Sources on topics like group theory, topology, and basic comp sci are common enough from intelligent writers since these topics aren't that complex, but not too simple that dumbasses aren't smart enough to get into them so their input is precluded.

Using AI for cooking is like half a tier better than using the recipe book from instant pot. Just use fucking google like a sane person and browse through multiple reputable sites including youtube.

>>22049352
no but i have asked it for medical advice and it produced more complete and more accurate information than my doctor. I'm pretty sure another doctor used it during an appointment with me to double check something he was saying.

so what I'm saying is ai is getting pretty good and i will use it for cooking tips next time i think i need help

>>22049368
>Just use fucking google like a sane person and browse through multiple reputable sites including youtube.
legitimately can't tell if this is bait or srs

>>22049371
Have you ever done any research, like ever?

>>22049368
Retarded.

>>22049366
wrong.

>>22049375
when's the last time you cooked a dish you've never heard of before?

>>22049366
actually, I'm a more adventurous cook than I ever have been. once you understand the fundamentals and processes of cooking, you really don't need step-by-step recipes anymore (for most things, I will admit there are exceptions). they can be a handy reference for knowing the ingredients and stuff but are often lacking in information, and to even get a good idea of a new dish you need to look over multiple recipes and secondary sources. I still do that sometimes but AI is good at cutting through the bullshit and extracting the information you really need. it's also good for sharpening your ideas, catching things you might miss, reigning you in when you need it to, and giving sparks for inspiration that you can follow.
the anti-AI fearmongering is stupid. it's a great tool if you learn to use it as a honing rod for your thinking, not a replacement for your thinking. there are legitimate reasons to be against AI and I think you do need to be careful how you use it, but it's legitimately useful for cooking.

>>22049352
No but now I might.

>>22049373
if you believe google and youtube constitute "research" then i should be asking you the same question.

>>22049352
Anyone who has any remotely decent recipe on their website has chatgpt blocked, so no.

>>22049352
since you said be honest yes i have asked chatgpt if certain retarded recipe ideas or food combinations were a good idea with the full understanding that it has 0 way of knowing and will always agree with me.

>>22049386
So you think looking into the experiences of real people who test out their recipes, document their process, take pictures and videos, describe their pitfalls, and comparing these experiences, isn't valid research?

>>22049374
You know this is a dumb person when zero real criticism or argument is given.

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>>22049352
Its surprisingly good at giving tips on how to use a slow-cooker to make weed butter and just slow-cookers in general.

>>22049390
no, i dont think watching tv is research.

>>22049394
>No u!
You're talking out of your ass about something you don't use. You're retarded.

>>22049403
>something you don't use
Lol, reread my initial post. You can tell when idiots are talking by how they argue. It's very easy to pick people like you out.

Im gonna use the same tactic you used in your last post. Are you smart enough to figure out why?
>You're stupid because you don't even cook, nor know how to cook well
Only a stupid people would argue like this, people like you. Do you even know what an LLM is?

No. I know how to cook. I mostly use it to "Google" for me since Google itself is patently worthless now and can't give me relevant fucking results anymore. I asked Google about making suji at home and it have me directions for sushi. I changed the spelling to su ji, suchi, su chi, suchee and su chee and each time, the results were retardedly irrelevant.
ChatGPT sucks now, too, after the most recent updates but at least it 1) knew what suji is so I didn't have to find out how to write it in Chinese and 2) gave clear directions on how to make it at home (too involved; fuck that noise).
>>22049366
Nonsense, you fucking retard.
>>22049362
I did that once. It suggested cooking mussels with yellow capsicums. It was okay, but very, very sweet. It did think up an interesting idea for pizzas I was cooking for a get-together: dhungar-ing them shits to make it seem like they were wood-fired.

>>22049352
sometimes i ask it to help pair flavors or entree/sides. i never trust it for recipes.

i use it all the time, mostly to tell me how long to cook food in an oven. it works fine

>>22049352
AI saved me $20 yesterday. I wanted to buy a bulk bag of horseradish powder thinking I could use that to make fake wasabi. Turns out you can't use just regular horseradish powder you need freeze dried horseradish powder to get that wasabi nose punch.

>>22049370
>more complete and more accurate information than my doctor
Are you a doctor? No? Then how would you know? It's just telling you what it thinks you want to hear, and will happily make up shit and citations if it thinks that's what you want.

only if im low on ingredients and have trouble thinking of what to make with them. i always have a prompt to ask it to pretend to be on Chopped. I like how in character it believes

>>22049352
i know how to cook.
if i ever need a recipe it's for baking.
i don't really bake.
i made some chili peanut butter cookies about 14 years ago.
that was the last time i baked.
>>22049366
>being past the point of cooking with recipes means you're ALWAYS cooking the same thing... that's in the recipes
now that's the craziest mental gymnastics i've seen yet.

>>22049368
>AI needs to steal pre-written information
>steal
a librarian doesn't steal from the library, they just point you to the information they have available.

>>22049391
what makes you think ai is a valid librarian?
why would you think it's autonomous and has agency?

>>22049394
>criticism or argument
critics = people with hot opinions.
arguers = people with a problem.

nobody sane argues, they discuss.
nobody sane critiques, they silently judge and move on.

>>22049358
What blogs even exist in the post-internet era?
Especially from non-americans.

>>22049707
As in the internet is dead. Yeah sure there's still places like here, IRC and usenet. But nobody actually engages with the internet that way outside of the stragglers.

I tried to use it. Was making two dishes, both asking for onions, but had only enough for one of them. However I also had shallots.
>Should I use shallots for X and onions for Y or the reverse?
"yes you should used shallots for X and onions for Y and here's why"
>Mhhhh
>>Should I use shallots for Y and onions for X or the reverse?
"yes you should used shallots for Y and onions for X and here's why"

Utterly useless sycophant.

>>22049358
nigga where do you think the AI trained to get the answer to all the ratios and shit? the fucking mom blogs dogs

The AI likes to take a bunch of recipes and hybridize them. Which means everything is ingredient maxxed. Making recipes overly complex wastes a lot of money and effort and I think gnerally taste worse than simplicity

>>22049634
A librarian doesn't cut out words from the books and glues them together how he sees fit. Now imagine that librarian not having eyes and not having tasted a single thing in his life. To mitigate that he calculated an average for every recipe in the library's cooking section. You arrive at the library and the librarian's book is waiting for you on the counter. Are you going to bother reading it?

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>>22049702
Most good content went behind a paywall since 2012. There are good blogs left, but in niche subjects: food science, regional cuisines, historical research or because of ethical motivation. Ironically, AI is fantastic at sniffing out who is pocketing corporate bux and who isn't. For Italy Gambero Rosso (once 100% legit) and Giallo Zafferano are massive scraping operations. While as big, The Slow Food Foundation and related associations and chefs remains hardcore legit, more than ever before, even - they're hardcore anti-bullshit. They're active on a much smaller scale in 160 countries, but definitely a highly reliable source to start from and regularly return to. Pic very much related.

>>22049352
It completely removed the need to try and make sense of imperial units and for that alone it has my respect.

>>22049865
lol same for me i can ask it convert europoor weights into volumes so I dont have to fuck with scales

>>22049352
There are two instances where you would use AI for cooking:
1) You're cooking for photos. (even then there's a danger of fire or chemical fumes killing you)
2) You're suicidal masochist. 'Nuff said.

I like thar AI removes all ads and blogs but sometimes are good clues that youre reading a bad recipie. GPT is the ghetto ass Ai

> Sthometimes
It's nice to enter whatever protein dish I want and ask it for high fiber side options

No

>>22049352
hey chat what were the most influential french cookbooks of the last 300 years
>go to archive.org and downloaded all of them
>feed them to chat

I then told it what I like, and how many im feeding, and then told it to print me a weekly meal schedule for my review, upon which i approve and have it build me a grocery list from that very meal plan and then just have those ingredients delivered.

I've never eaten so well.

>>22049352
I use it constantly to get ideas for seasoning blends. If I want to create a cajun seasoning for something like turkey breast I'd just use generic store bought cajun seasonings, but GPT usually suggests a blend that gets me there without using much salt
has also helped me recreate dishes I've seen on youtube or tiktok or whatever where the person doesn't bother giving any measurements or if they do its another
>follow this link to my website
where the link doesn't work or the website is full of ads

>>22049352
I use it to convert from American measure units to real measuring units

>>22049352
fuck no.

>>22049352
no. the only time I even need a recipe is when I want the actual original recipe for some type of food. once I make something I rarely need the recipe again. I am at the point where I can make nearly anything without recipes or the internet.

>>22049386
actually all the worst cooklets i've seen are on instagram tiktok and yt shorts

you'll run into a ja/ck/ every so often on yt but at least those failures are taking their fourth strokes seriously enough to set up an actual camera so you can watch their arteries clog in full HD

general rule of thumb if you're following a recipe filmed by a ham planet in portrait mode then you're dumber than they are

>>22049871
Multiplying by 10 was too hard for you?

No but I like Red Village's covers of Rhianna's 'Umbrella' and Marshall Mather's 'Not Afraid'

>>22049352
No not really

Yeah it's great. I can take pictures of my fridge and pantry and tell it to give me ideas. I can adjust recipes for serving sizes on the fly.

>>22050824
>serving sizes on the fly.
That sounds like a miniscule amount of food

>>22049352
I just ask it things that I would otherwise google, like ratios or particular techniques I'm unfamiliar with. Beats having to sift through an hour of fucking garbage blogs

>>22049352
It taught me to make amazing rice like asians

>>22051095
>>22049352
not chatgpt btw chatgpt is trash
I'm a geminichad

>>22049368
>they hated him because he told them the truth

AI will bend over to suggest unneeded garbage and when the food turns out shit it'll be WHOOPS YOU ARE RIGHT THAT WAS TOO MUCH CYANIDE

>>22051172
or it tries to gaslight you into thinking cyanide is perfectly fine

Nutritional analysis is useful and quite a convenient asset on the fly if you have a broad diet.

>>22051172
>>22051176
Facebook memes

>>22051707
reddit comment

>>22051736
I had to google with "reddit" even was. You post there?

>>22049358
fpbp

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>>22049382
Based nuance thinking enjoyer.

Sure, I listen to a robot that is incapable of testing or tasting the things it's telling me, lol.

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>>22049352
AI isnt new, people have been using bots for a decade to copy and repost recipes (some with slight tweaks) on blogs and websites.
AI scrapes all the recipe websites, AI scrapes every youtube video, facebook page and then some.
Its all circular, a website stole their recipe from another website and added cinnamon or sprinkle of chocolate and called it unique. Some youtuber stole said ripped recipe and uploaded it 6 years ago. So on so forth.
If you go look at grandmas cookbook, half of the recipes were from a soup can in the 70s anyways.

When you ask AI about a recipe, it just pulls the same recipes you would have found just googling it.

The reality is, you cant escape it and somewhere along the way it was sullied. Dont think searching in DuckDuckGo for a recipe you are exempt from this problem.

Just dont be shit at cooking and use recipes as vague guidelines, but use your actual brain.

>>22052222
>If you go look at grandmas cookbook blah blah blah
Canned soup wasn't a thing in my country when I was growing up and is still pretty rare now, mostly because we actually fucking cook. You can find it, mostly in the international aisle of the supermarket or some dusty corner of a weirdo store selling weirdo soups. So no, my mum's and gran's cookbooks don't contain any corporate created recombinant cuisine recipes like Rice Krispie Treats™ or Chex™ Mix.
Not everywhere is Fatmericanised, you disgusting beast of lard and also lard.

>>22052443
Poor

>>22052448
Nope. Just not into canned soup. It's like Shenzhen. Hyper modern Asian city that makes Tokyo look like medieval times. And no canned tuna. Just not a thing. Different places have different food needs and wants and we neither need nor want canned soup just as the Chinese don't want canned tuna.

>>22052456
Yeah, hes poor

>>22052473
The guy whose family cookbooks are full of Campbell's recipes is, yes.

I never use AI for anything, ever. I don’t even like AI search summaries. AI will lie to you deliberately. Why would you trust it with things you are going to consume? AI will poison you with no conscience, malice, or accountability.

>>22052523
ChatGPT is the worst of them. It hallucinates a version of reality where it's always right then gaslights the user when he tries to correct it. I was testing it with simple questions retards could answer like "how many Es in the word 'extreme'?" and it not only said two but argued with me about it when I literally spelled it out for it:
"E 1
X
T
R
E 2
M
and E makes 3. There are 3 Es." It continued to insist there were only two so I told it to organize the letters in alphabetical order and while I don't remember the order of its reply, not only was it way off, it included a fourth, phantom E for some reason.
It fails at simple arithmetic. And it lies. It at one point gave me information on supermarkets in New Jersey (that I didn't ask for) because it saw I was in New Jersey (I wasn't) then in the next session, i asked it where it thought I was and it lied, saying it can't see where users are. So why would it say it saw me as being in New Jersey then say it can't see where users are at all?

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>>22052540
This didn't happen. You are referencing comedy videos that parody AI but are entirely fictional.

>>22052932
It absolutely did. I have no idea what comedy videos you're talking about and that's almost certainly because these videos do not exist.
Just because it can count now doesn't mean it always could. You fucking retard.

>>22053082
Show me a screenshot, Anon.

>>22053083
Show me the video, Anna.

I don't really use it for recipes but it can be a nice alternative for ideas. My partner has a fuckload of retarded allergies and it's kinda nice to dump the giant copy paste list into the schizo ai and have it spit out some ideas for possible dishes I can make without those ingredients especially when the alternative of most cooking sites is miserable.

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I used ChatGPT about a year and a half ago to get me a recipe for a pork tenderloin, just to see what it generated.
https://chatgpt.com/share/67b3bd50-eeb4-8009-a93e-5fa4b5aee284
Pic related. As with most LLM-driven subjects, if you know basics (literally basics as in 'don't mix white vinegar with milk if you don't want curdling') it can be good for inspiration.

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>>22053110
Okay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T4KiWP4Hs4

You've been watching this guy's videos and thinking that they're accurate to what using AI is actually like, which is easily debunkable by simply using AI.

Now even begin to make your argument.

>>22053135
Huh. Never seen this before but it only proves my point. No interest in actually watching the video. The headline is enough.
Anyway, I can't provide a screenshot for a few reasons
1) this was months ago
2) I'm almost always incognito and you can't screenshot an incognito browser and
3) I didn't think it would ever be so pertinent to any future conversation that I would have ever needed to screenshot it in the first place
I suppose I'll concede insofar that a video I didn't believe existed actually does and that I can't prove what I saw with my own eyes. Enjoy your day.

>>22049368
Google is just a slower and more manual LLM

>>22053157
>I'm almost always incognito and you can't screenshot an incognito browser
What is this, some phoneposter shit?

>>22053168
Yup. I've got a kid. If I hand him my phone, I close the browser so the entire history is gone and I don't have to worry about him finding out what kind of sick fuck his father his.

>>22049352
occasionally for spices

>>22049352
i use it for nutrition and to discover ingredients and dishes high in certain nutrients, not for actual recipes and cooking.

>>22049358
>yes. what is the alternative? some stay at home wifey's husband-funded foodblog? The ai answers for how to do basic shit like ratios for pickling brine or pizza sauce are much better and more convenient than anything else you could click on.
You're either suffering from psychosis or genuinely retarded.

>>22049775
You have a brain, you have free will, you can decide not to use every ingredient AI mentions.

>>22053859
Not that anon, but... What? If you rely on the internet for cooking instructions or inspiration, your choices are basically random blogs and AI. Yes, you might find the answer by going through a bunch of blogs and hope it's written by someone who knows their shit, but AI is much faster at searching and will often even provide a link to the source.
The only reason I even bothered replying is because this isn't the first time I've seen accusations of insanity and delusion at random posts that make complete sense, often ones related to AI.

>>22049352
yeah sure. Fuck having to pay for a subscription tho

>>22049352
Nope. I only use it to try to make it say nigger by accident

>>22055624
Just ask it the name of Bayard Rustin's 1986 speech on gay rights. It was something about the alphabet soup crowd being "America's last/new niggers" because they were the only group remaining that it was still socially acceptable to openly discriminate against.

The Labyrinthine Reduction (A Study in Bureaucratic Gray)
This dish is designed to mimic the feeling of endless waiting and the crushing weight of administrative indifference, using ingredients that are perfectly edible but entirely devoid of comfort. It is a meal for the waiting room of eternity.
Ingredients:
12 oz of Gray-Billed Mushrooms (Oyster or Cremini)
2 cups of Steel-Cut Oats
1 firm, flavorless Turnip\
1 tbsp of charred Shallots
A splash of Balsamic Reduction
A pinch of coarse, gray Sea Salt
1 liter of unsalted Vegetable Broth
Step-by-Step Preparation:
The Prolonged Soaking: Place the steel-cut oats into the broth. Do not boil them quickly. Allow them to simmer at the absolute lowest setting possible. The goal is to reach a state where they are soft enough to eat but remain stubbornly chewy, mimicking the feeling of a task that is never quite finished.
The Forcing of Texture: Slice the turnip into paper-thin, uniform discs. Lay them out on a dry cutting board and leave them to oxidize. They should turn a sickly, bruised shade of off-white before they touch the pan.
The Saute of Indifference: Sauté the mushrooms until they release their moisture. They will shrink, darken, and lose all their individual character, eventually becoming a singular, inseparable mass of gray matter.
The Ink Staining: Add the balsamic reduction to the mushrooms. Watch as the dark liquid stains the fungi, resembling the messy, blotchy signatures on documents you no longer understand.
Assembly of the Pending Queue: Spoon the porridge into a shallow, white bowl. Arrange the turnip slices on top in an overlapping, nonsensical pattern—like a pile of files that have been mismanaged. Place the burnt shallots in the center, a charred focal point of the dish.

>>22049352
>do you ever use AI to improve your cooking or to get ideas?
yes but only because im retardedly new
like learning to use a pressure cooker and process chicken thighs and dealing with hard to cook beans that i will get sometimes that never cook thru no matter how much you boil em
extremely good for concepts I don't have the vocabulary to describe but if you know the terminology to ask or describe your question its often better to look it up first and use AI as a plan B