>>153251332
How the fuck are you going to train a Rognarr to use a jetpack?

So, why didn't they freeze?

>>153251350
If you can't, what's the point of bringing them in the first place? Even on solid ground, Thragg can grab some jobber like Oliver and zoom off to the other side of the planet, forcing everyone else to follow while rognarrs are left behind.

>>153251332
>"...Okay? But at least the rognarrs have jetpacks so that they could properly fight Viltrumites in the air, right?"
That was the funniest part. The plan was just to throw the rognarrs in the Viltrumite's general direction and hope for the best.

Source tells me Theadus is stable

Please god

>>153251332
>"There will be loses…but it’s a sacifice I’m willing to pay.

Thragg is level 99 they should've grinded first

>>153251332
>Tech Jacket, our frailest and worst-performing member
she's still the only one who has never taken any notable damage

>>153251332
>Hopefully Thragg will just stand around letting us killing multiple Viltrumites instead of just 1 shotting all of us

>>153251983
Her suit was one punch away from being destroyed a few episodes ago.

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>>153251332
>In the many years since the scourge virus nobody has gotten close enough to Viltrum or used something like a telescope or spy drone to see the massive ring of bodies surrounding the planet

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>>153251332
All their budget went to the brilliant animation instead

>>153252054
To be fair a Viltrumite can be on your ass within seconds and nobody knew most of them had been wiped out so trying to get those close would be suicide and even sending a drone or something to do it if that gets traced back to you your planet is fucked 10 ways to sunday.

>>153252040
it comes back from just about anything she's the only he keeps ending every fight at 100% health. space racer is the most vulnerable and literally needed her to to repair him.

How did Space Racer manage to snag rognarrs?

>>153252305
they froze them again with a repaired sundisc. he grabbed the popsicles and they somehow thawed while in space even though all it takes is some shade for them to freeze instantly.

>>153252163
The coalition is already at war with the viltrumites, they can use a fucking drone

>>153252144
>WHY DID YOU REDEEEEEEEEEEM!

>>153252391
Makes me wonder how they didn't freeze to death in space, being cold-blooded.

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>>153252163
>>153252054
>In the many years since the scourge virus nobody noticed that the same 100ish viltrumites were the only ones ever appearing, across the entire galaxy.

>>153252582
Why would the raggies even be able to survive in space? They live on planets instead of the void and they can't fly.

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>>153252601
Viltrumites all look the same to your average alien.
Either that or they regularly changed haircuts which would explain things like pic related. Over 100 years you've got to be scraping the bottom of the barrel as far as hair is concerned.

>>153252582
Space is actually really hot, you get bombarded by the raw sun light without the atmosphere protecting you from the worst of it

>>153251332
You forgot the part were they spend a lot of their energy mid fight to blow up the almost empty planet of the enemy that doesn't need to breath.

>>153252762
you have to be in direct sunlight. even battle beast froze over from gett abandoned in space.

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>>153251332
>"Yes. Well, no, actually. We're putting it into non-retrievable darts and giving them all to Tech Jacket, our frailest and worst-performing member."
I'm still annoyed that dumb bitch wasted all the Viltrumite weakening darts on lesser Viltrumites without bothering to save even one to weaken Thragg. You know the ENTIRE reason they went there in the first place.

>>153251983
>she's still the only one who has never taken any notable damage
Because she's not super powered. Without the suit any hit from a Viltrumite would make her explode into a pile of guts. So either she is protected by the suit, saved by Allen for the bazillionth time, or she takes a single non-suit hit and is insta-dead.

She sucks at straight up combat, but her main contributions as far as I can remember is helping hide Allen in the tech suit on the outside of that Viltrumite ship, bringing Space Racer to help save Allen later, and then saving Space Racer in the most recent episode from his broken space helmet. So despite needing her ass saved constantly she has still contributed more than say, Oliver.

>>153253207
thragg was the first guy she fired at and it got intercepted by skinny lucan.

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>>153253249
I realize chances are Thragg is so OP he would likely dodge any dart shot at him. Pic-related we see him casually not even bother moving because he's so skilled he can tell Space Racer's Viltrumite killing laser beam will miss him by a few inches. He's like those Indians who try to seem cool by walking near a passing train and not reacting except he can actually pull it off and not end up just another idiot in a gore vid.

But again the entire purpose of going there was to kill Thragg specifically so she should have saved some darts on the off chance maybe the other characters like Omni-Man, Allen, Invincible, Thaddius managed to hold him still for a moment just long enough so she could shoot him with a dart.

All the other Viltrumites were just a roadblock to the ultimate explicit goal of killing Thragg specifically.

>>153251332
>Kill Argal hoping Viltrumites would stop being so tyranical
>They get pissed and double down
>Create virus to kill a ton of them (and don't even bother to check if it worked)
>They get pissed and double down

>Decide to blow up their entire planet
>"YOUR ONLY OPTION IS TO SURRENDER"
what the fuck did he think would happen, that they'd all start crying and say they were sorry?

>>153253408
He's a liberal: he cannot fathom anyone not having the same self-destructive desires as him

>>153253420
The world is more than your obsession with American politics

>>153253408
Also, what was he trying to accomplish? They can breath in space, they don't need resources to move and fight like other species, the planet just has symbolic value but isn't like destroying affects their ability to fight.

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>>153253432
Anon, do you not know what liberal ideas are?

>>153253376
>Hurr Thragg is so OP and can't be hit
>Later takes him multiple days to overcome a furry who can't even fly on bugworld

>>153253448
He was already wounded

>>153253442
Ragnarrs and how they are used are fucking stupid, just fly around them for fucks sake.

>>153253459
No, he was only wounded towards the end of the fight, and the cat man gutted himself after that point to make it 'fair'

>>153251332
>>153251420
The comic explains it a bit better - when Space Racer is telling Allen and Tech Jacket they have to retreat, he says the plan was for a fight on the planet's surface and that was completely fucked by the Viltrumites' space ambush keeping the battle up there and heavily limiting the usefulness of the Ragnars which were quickly removed from the fight.

I have no idea why the show cut that line.

>>153252829
>>153252762
>>153252647
Space is not cold
Space is not hot
Space is a vacuum
There is nothing wicking heat away from you, nowhere for any heat to leave your mass except radiation
There is also nothing heating you up except radiation

>>153253507
Why did you link me? I didn't mention anything about the temperature of space.

>>153253438
It changes their goal
Thragg was resistant to Nolan's proposition because he still believed the planet could be restored.
With that now out of the question Thragg is forced to accept that hiding and interbreeding is the only way forward

>>153253492
it's almost like it's shit

>>153253438
>They can breath in space
They can't, they hold their breath for a long time.

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>>153253472
Obviously Thragg can be defeated but the main purpose of the last episode seemed to be to show the audience "THRAGG IS SUPER OVERPOWERED HE IS NOT SOMEONE TO FUCK WITH".

So I don't know I guess Invincible keeps getting stronger but as of now the show is explicitly telling the audience "Thragg could easily defeat any one of us and we only stand a chance if we fight him together". This is not even a subtle thing for the audience to interpret, the dialogue straight up tells us this. So yes Thragg, at least in this point in the story, for this episode, is supposed to be ridiculously overpowered compared to the other characters.

I mean for a large portion of the episode Thragg wasn't even doing anything he was just standing (floating) there like the Japanese yakuza guy from that one Simpsons episode in pic-related.

>>153253507
just say space is cold but it takes longer for you to freeze than sitting in a freezer thanks to inefficient thermal transfer.

>>153253563
Its literally never a problem no matter how much they fight and get bodied (except for the one time being choked is the bullshit reasoning for Mark to beat Conquest, despite being done via the worst choking method possible)

>>153253575
>I mean for a large portion of the episode Thragg wasn't even doing anything he was just standing (floating) there like the Japanese yakuza guy from that one Simpsons episode in pic-related.
That just makes it even more retarded, since he was watching his own people die needlessly when the nonsensical excuse for him sparing Mark and Nolan is that every Viltrumite life is super vital and must be preserved.

>>153251332
Couldn't they have released the poison into the atmosphere and waited in orbit to kill anyone who tried to escape?

>>153253442
The rognarrs have only eaten female viltrumites. The only victims we've seen are Nolan's partner from the mission to their planet and two female viltrumites this episode. And I don't remember any female viltrumites in the viltrumite war getting killed in any other way than getting eaten by rognarrs.

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>>153253611
It is kind of retarded. But at the same time the very same episode begins with Thragg putting an order to Viltrum to kill all of the weak in their mists.

So he clearly wants to keep the Viltrumites who are strongest around and doesn't care so much if the weaker ones get culled. That's a huge part of Viltrum culture and Thragg in particular. Omni-Man has shown himself to be one of the strongest Viltrumites which is probably why Thragg wanted to get him back on his side, despite his betrayal. I doubt Thragg would be so forgiving of a Viltrumite who was weak.

Remember even when Conquest failed and was ready for death, Thragg refused to kill him and instead decided he would be of better use to keep fighting for the Viltrum empire. Because Conquest was one of the stronger remaining Viltrumites and killing him would be seen as a waste in Thragg's eyes.

>>153253408
At the end of the day, Thaedus is a Viltrumite. He's just as brutal as any of them and he doesn't really value life much more than them, either. He will resort to a show of strength and domination without much thought.

>>153251332
>Like, equipping Mark and Nolan with anti-Viltrumite poison-laced wristblades or something?"
Only makes them vulnerable if another Viltrumite were to disarm them

>>153253376
>so she should have saved some darts
She had 10
Only 10

>>153253764
Yes but it doesn't change the fact that she should have saved some for Thragg. If I'm playing a video game and the final boss sends out some lesser enemies for me to kill I'm not using all my rare super enemy weakening potions on the lesser fodder enemies. I'm going to make sure to save some for the extra tough final boss (Thragg).

And this is just a dumb video game I'm talking about, not an actual life and death scenario where billions of lives in the galaxy hang in the balance.

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Having space racer wield the planet-piercing laser gun is the equivalent of tying a nuclear bomb to a stick and having an 8 year old child charge into battle with it.
Like yeah, he's gonna do some damage, but wouldn't you rather give it to someone who doesn't die from one punch or maybe attach it to an AI-assisted targeting canon of an FTL spaceship? Just a thought.

>>153254161
Space Racer is one of those Atom Eve esque oddities that break the story if Kirkman gave him non-shit accuracy.

Thragg more like fag

>>153254161
Seriously, if they gave him one of those gyroscope robot arms they use in Aliens to fire the smart guns he would be able to take care of everything.

>>153251350
That was my thought. OP was doing a great job making Thaedus sound stupid, then he just went and made himself sound retarded.

>>153254242
Yeah, the problem is that while Viltrumites are extremely strong... they are JUST strong. They really have no counter to any of the various superpowers or magical abilities that don't care about strength beyond 'punch the guy before they can use it'.

Any kind of mind control/transformation/etc other power has to be conspicuously absent, because their existence would render Viltrumites a non-issue. Eve has to be specifically neutered to make her not instantly solve the entire viltrumite problem because otherwise she could turn Conquest into a cloud of flower petals with a thought, and so on.

But on the flip side, Mark can't walk 10 ft on Earth without tripping over some new villain that can knock his teeth out or break his arm or nearly kill him. What, is Earth just overflowing with low-grade anti-viltrumite tier people? Mark can fly through a planet but ghost dragon dude can seriously injure him?

I'm not normally one to care about power levels, but they are so fucked in Invincible that all stakes just become completely arbitrary. Who wins what fight almost never makes any in-universe sense, people are just randomly unfathomably stupid or inconsistently vulnerable or can't decide whether their punch hits like a fast moving car or a relativistic kill vehicle.

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>>153251332
>"Well at least Battle Beast is with us. He's like the tank of the group. I'm sure with him, we'll even the odds."
>"Yeah, about that. He's now mid-tier goon level."
>"The fuck does that even mean? He can beat Thragg, right?"

>>153253827
>lesser enemies
These are fucking Viltrumites

>>153254368
>Any kind of mind control/transformation/etc other power has to be conspicuously absent, because their existence would render Viltrumites a non-issue. Eve has to be specifically neutered to make her not instantly solve the entire viltrumite problem because otherwise she could turn Conquest into a cloud of flower petals with a thought, and so on.
Given they're made up of smart atoms I think it's clear they resist transmutation which is why Conquest had his skin peeled off instead of being completely disassembled.

>>153254368
This is something I've asked before, why is seemingly only earth the place with
>Magic users
>Giant monsters
>Literally just hell
>Both normal people and people with super powers
Like does any other planet have to deal with this shit?

>>153254161
It's probably only him who can fire it given it's tied to his own life and merely touching it is enough to restore him back

>>153254380
He can't fly
He's at an inherent disadvantage because space is not his element
His jetpack isn't as durable as he is so take that out and he's well, out

>>153251350
Ideally, you wouldn't train them at all. What you would do is have Tech Jacket put a jetpack on each of the Rognarr and remote control them around. She doesn't have to tell them what to do, just drive them closer to the enemy so they can melee. Give Tech Jacket something that only she can do: play a miniature RTS game micromanaging Rognarrs where they need to be.

Also: missed opportunity to have her shoot a poison dart in the opposite direction from the fight and then maneuver an enemy into its path to get hit by the dart when it comes back around in the orbital path.

>>153254407
Well give him a better firing platform than just his arm, then. Get his ass a target-assist scope or something.

>>153254368
>but ghost dragon dude can seriously injure him?
magic

>>153254422
Yeah, Thragg didn't beat him, he just got a shot in and yeeted him. He would've immediately come back for a counterattack if he could.

>>153254368
>Mark can't walk 10 ft on Earth without tripping over some new villain that can knock his teeth out or break his arm or nearly kill him
That's the stupidest part
It seems like earth would genuinely beat the viltrumites considering half the villains can beat them. When the mark variants invaded like 10 of them died, and I'm supposed to take 50 viltrumites as an existential threat?

>>153254494
>When the mark variants invaded like 10 of them died
Those Marks were bitches.

>>153254494
Cecil himself said the Mark the Reanimen killed at the start was weaker than the main Mark
There's a solid chance the other Marks that died were scrubs and even then the only ones who did die (with confirmed causes) were thanks to Oliver (who's already half-Viltrumite) with assistance of other heroes and Tech-Jacket (whose weaponry is Geldarian and still took days to kill one)
The only things that killed the Viltrumites that are strictly Earth based is Powerplex (who hard counters physical opponents and even then he can be overtaxed with enough force) and Re-Animen who still suffered their own losses and are expensive to make

>>153254504
Nah that was stupid, one was a fulltime viltrumite including the stache

>>153254557
And he probably got hard carried by Nolan.

>>153254557
And he died to the one character armed with one the things Nolan himself could counter a Viltrumite
Yes she was the second glaring missing link as a combatant and was much better as support but Zoe's armor is still Geldarian and we saw how well she fared against more experienced Viltrumites

>>153254543
>was weaker than the main Mark
Yeah no shit, main mark is already top 10 viltrumites, he wins against Lucan and no name viltrumites jobbers easily
He held his own against Anissa this episode, he killed Conquest. But god forbid he has to fight doc seismic!

The point is, the mark variants are viltrumites too, Mohawk was able to subdue Conquest in his dimension, they should still be virtually unstoppable to earth

>>153252786
It was more to give a message rather than cutting their breath…also aurafarming.
I bet the old man was feeling it really really sick until he got beheaded by Thrag

Viltrumite wank is one of the qualities that makes the series so shit, as a further extension of the quality of the overall writing.

>>153253207
In her defense, Thragh was literally dodging insta-kill lasers with ease, among the viltrumites, he is the only one that kind of sneak attack would ever work against

>>153254595
Yeah and Mohawk survived
If he died you'd have a point that Earth could've dealt with 50 Viltrumites

>>153254590
*himself said could counter
*weakest link

Mohawk was effortlessly killed by Robot, like ridiculously so.

>>153254646
Robot got power crept hard in the Flaxan dimension

>>153254690
Robot just has more plot armor than Batman, even dying doesn't stop him since the author has his back.

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I hope they do something to ramp up the brutality for the series finale to compete with last season's finale. I want to see how well they fool non comic readers with picrel since mark vs thragg was pretty toned down.

Is it true that robot wins and they need to travel back in time to beat him or did i got memed?

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>>153254740
I just want to see best girl behead worst girl

>>153254768
the rape scene really mondbroke /co/ huh?

>>153254746
No, the time travel and robot winning are different parts, both are utterly retarded though

>>153254788
No I think the abortion scene did that

>>153251332
The show's been this retarded since season 1.

>>153254746
Robot wins. Half of Earth's heroes give up because they realize that as much of a murderous scumbag he is, they concluded that given he made Earth a utopia for ordinary common folk, it'd be self-destructive to undo it all and it'd be better to make due and work with him
ACTUAL late spoilers
He basically becomes Earth's leader and ambassador to the Viltrumites but crosses the line when he starts kidnapping Viltrumite-Human hybrid children. Mark gores him but leaves his brain alive to serve as an advisor to Immortal who's now in charge in the hopes that all of Robot's ideas will get filtered out by Immortal's morality. Basically thinking it'd help keep Immortal sane
The future refused to change

>>153254595
> The point is, the mark variants are viltrumites too, Mohawk was able to subdue Conquest in his dimension, they should still be virtually unstoppable to earth
Different growth.
Evil mark get their life easier in most dimensions, probably due to living under nolan’s tutelage and fighting the bare minimum to be welcomed in the “empire”.
So they usually don’t reach their potential beside some flew evil variants.
The main one is playing his life at the hardest difficulty specifically for staying a good guy to the very end, he got beaten up by everything (his father included) and had to strive harder to be stronger and merely have a chance with the current viltrumites, so he got stronger and will continue to grow stronger.


To sum up. Most of the evil variants are playing it easy mode, main Mark is playing it NIGHTMARE INFERNO mode, which on the other hands grant him better EXP as long he survives

>>153254821
The story bends over backwards for the sake of Rudy, its so fucking stupid. Why does Kirkman have such a hardon for him?

>>153254768
>best girl
That's not Tech Jacket

>>153254839
>Actual training makes you weaker
Powerscalers, ladies and gentlemen.

>>153254839
That's stupid, viltrumite's don't get stronger from constantly getting their shit slapped, that's specifically Allen's ability.

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>>153254800
Eve was a mistake post Conquest

>>153254839
>Trained from a relatively young age by your own race, a species of warriors who have been using the same set of powers as you for years
>Somehow WEAKER than the guy who gets his ass beat every other hour
God, is this shit just American Dragon Ball?

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>>153254871
Because Kirkman genuinely believes in Rudy's fascism. Its also his cuck fetish having actual relevant consequences rather than "lol, lmao".

>>153251332
>If I kill the emperor SURELY they will immediately become pacifists!
>If I throw a bioweapon SURELY they will immediately become pacifists!
>If I blow up their planets SURELY they will immediately become pacifis-ACK
Thadeus was fucking retarded, out of all the ways to try to reform their society he consistently picked the options that would make the viltrumites even more pissed off and brutal

>>153254903
I see you left out the part where Anissa has sex with black men, who don't even have powers.

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>>153254382
>These are fucking Viltrumites
Yes and Viltrumite power scaling is all over the place. Some Viltrumites get punched and their heads fly off, meanwhile Nolan gets punched so hard he gets thrown all the way to Viltrum and is still relatively okay.

Being a Viltumite isn't just a matter of being powerful, some of them clearly are WAY more resistant to taking damage then others.

>>153251361
Space isn't actually cold. There's no air or other material to whisk heat away from your body, it would feel like being locked in a room with completely stationary air at a temperature that always matches the temperature of your skin. The body can't expel the heat it produces. Then we have the matter of solar light/heat/radiation and how it's completely unmitigated by atmosphere or magnetic field (since you're not on a planet).

If you're at a distance from a star comparable to how far a life-sustaining planet would be, you'd just overheat.

>>153254950
That's cringe, but its somehow less lame than Eve.

>>153254940
he approached the viltrumites as a viltrumite

>>153254969
That's just because the show is shitty and constantly inconsistant.

>>153254932
>God, is this shit just American Dragon Ball?
For a long time people been saying that Nolan is vegeta, and Mark Gohan.

>>153254932
Yes, except American Goku never learned ki attacks and just has to be a flying brick

Thragg really treated Oliver like shit for being a Thraxan hybrid which is ironic considering he amasses for himself an entire army of Thraxan hybrids

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>>153254368
>Eve has to be specifically neutered to make her not instantly solve the entire viltrumite problem because otherwise she could turn Conquest into a cloud of flower petals with a thought, and so on.
Eve can control Conquest's hand, which is made of metal that can endure viltrumite-tier combat. But no one ever thinks to ask if she could engineer more of this element for viltrum busting weapons. Coat reanimen armor with that shit and earth would be safe.

>>153254969
...cute

>>153255013
Eve can creat stuff from nothing, she could literally build prisons around viltrumites like she did with multipaul but made with the metal conquest uses

A great tip for writers: do NOT give characters reality bending powers if the story is not centered around them and you are not willing to devote all your time to them, it just ends up being gay green lantern.

>>153254969
>Some Viltrumites get punched and their heads fly off,
It's never that easy
Even the heavy hitters like Thaedus and Nolan can't kill a lesser Viltrumite with ease
Then there's the numbers disadvantage
It's either
>Try to save a few (out of 10) darts to kill the one guy fast enough to not worry about Space Racer's death ray
>Use them to take out as many Viltrumites as possible (especially ones coming your way or the ones protecting Thragg already)
>Die
The only ones one-shotting is Space Racer and he comes with caveats or the Rognarrs who can't be controlled and can also be one-shotted
Zoe did try to conserve her ammunition (it's why she used a mine when that one Viltrumite dodged) but in a situation like this, it makes sense why she opted to use them to dwindle the enemy side as much as possible

>>153255013
>Eve can control Conquest's hand,
That wasn't her manipulating his hand, that was her densifying the air around him
I think it's like FMA or Firestorm where she has to know the exact composition

>>153254975
rognarrs are clearly the most comically extreme example of being cold-blooded every though since being in the shade turns them into an icecube in a literal second. they aren't producing body heat.

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Eve is quite literally immortal. In fact she’s a better immortal than Immortal because she can fully regenerate on her own AND de-age herself

>>153255084
Oh don't tell me she can visualize in her mind the exact atomic composition of an apple, down to the differences between the core and the seeds etc
Her powers are just fucking stupid

>>153255117
Why are the pages reversed

>>153255052
>do NOT give characters reality bending powers if the story is not centered around them and you are not willing to devote all your time to them, it just ends up being gay green lantern.
It is even a problem for characters built around it, see Firestorm.

>>153255117
Why is this right to left like a manga

>>153255117
So then even Eve can outlive both Terra and Mark

>>153255117
That's all her godlike powers amounted to, just providing Mark with an immortal wife (after an entire comic of the WORST sort of soap opera drama bullshit; breakups, abortion, or fucking some random alien asshole with dredlocks who despised her kid because that how his species do).

>>153255117
show mark is going to age way better than comic mark

>>153255116
Even if you accept that, there's still the fact that they're being exposed to sunlight from the local star which is completely unmitigated by things like atmosphere and magnetic fields because they're in empty space, which is to say they're in sunlight that is exceptionally strong.

>>153255117
I always hated how Mark essentially just abandons earth and Debbie in the end

>>153254590
>>153254640
Honestly, this episode saved Zoe's performance. She may be weaker than Oliver and often finds herself in danger and needing to be rescued, but this episode showed how helpful she is as support with the utility of the Tech Jacket suit while Oliver is just another fly fast and punch hard guy but the weakest one. Even her damsel in distress moments were more minor compared to her usual. I think it's safe to say that she performed at least as well as Zack did in the comic in the viltrumite war even though she's clearly weaker than him in combat.

>>153255199
Debbie herself literally reassures to Mark that it won't be the last time she'll see him again

>>153255179
Because he's Asian?
But since Viltrumite genes in hybrids overwrite the other species genes shouldn't he turn White like Nolan? If the series was logical and treated him the same as it did Oliver.

>>153255314
>But since Viltrumite genes in hybrids overwrite the other species genes shouldn't he turn White like Nolan?
Yes but that'd be "problematic" so it won't happen

>>153255272
It helps that we have solid confirmation she CAN kill a Viltrumite with the suit's firepower which explains why Nolan wanted to bring Geldarians along for the ride
She barely missed but that's more on the Viltrumite's experience rather than her lack of power

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>>153255199
It’s fine Mark continues to visit earth every now and then to have Terra stay with Debbie. Mark probably did stop going altogether once Debbie died though. Judging from the grim Immortal future that does still happen, Markus eventually leaves the planet too at some point. Earth is just doomed

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>>153255314
asian viltrumites exist so by the same logic there's even small amounts of asian genes in nolan that don't need to be overwritten.

>>153255272
zoe should be oliver if she could beat mustache mark. the low end for him would be similar to season 2 mark. also zack never showed an attack as strong as this

>>153255314
>>153255351
Oliver should have stayed purple, that was a pointless detail to add changing him to look like everyone else.
Especially now when the cartoon makes Viltrumites a fucking rainbow of different physical appearances, where in the comic they were much more samey which better fit their whole "Eugenics Dictatorship" theme.

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>>153255117
out of curiosity, what age is Eve after she resurrects? asking for a friend

>>153255193
it didn't seem like they were in direct sunlight, at least definitely not when space racer was carrying them he must haver brought them from their own planet or some great distanc since he had to arrive later than the others

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>>153254446
Pretty sure Thragg beats the shit out of him without effort once they actually do battle 1v1

>>153255482
Ursaal my beloved

>>153255482
No, you retard, its a battle that takes a long time, and if Battle Beast was less of an HONORfag Thragg would have been killed.
Hell Thragg should still have died, but for some reason despite being there Space Racer doesn't ride over and blow his brains out after he collapses.

>>153255482
They fought for several days and Thragg gave him an actual funeral for his effort

>>153254380
Thragg didn't actually fight him past a blow
He immediately went for the jetpack and threw him because he saw he was a threat with a vulnerability to remove from play

>>153255396
There's no solid confirmation that attack would've killed if it hit

>>153255515
Space Racer can't fire his gun on planets or he risks heavy collateral

>>153255589
He saw it burn through flesh like a knife through hot butter
A hit to the heart or head wouldve been a kill or if it struck a limb and crippled the foe

>>153255589
it pierces viltrumite flesh so it would damage a viltrumite's vital spots if it hits center mass. more damage than the usual tech jacket lasers which they still try to dodge because they still hurt even if is more like get shot by birdshot.

>>153255631
*hot knife through butter
It's no different from how Anissa barely grazed Space Racer's gun firing

>>153255631
>>153255632
Burning through flesh doesn't mean it can pierce through muscle and bone and destroy a vital spot.
>>153255649
If all we had from Space Racer's gun was it grazing Anissa, that wouldn't be solid confirmation that it can kill viltrumites. But we don't.

>>153254380
We gonna see that fight next episode or is it gonna be a next season thing

>>153251421
Alright okay pretty good

>>153255601
I'm pretty sure the coalition doesn't give two shits about destroying bug planet if it meant killing Freddie, also he doesn't need to shoot through the core to kill a single dude on it.

>>153255703
Last season
So 3 years at this rate

>>153251421
kek

>>153255694
>Burning through flesh doesn't mean it can pierce through muscle and bone and destroy a vital spot.

...What do you think flesh is, anon?

>>153255694
it wasn't just a skin burn even if the shitty artwork made the later wound look like it. she lost a big chunk of blood from it so it had to go through the muscle and deal more thn superficial damage. the would for aanissa looking how it does is more excusable sicne we know his gun doesn't cause bleeding.

>>153255717
Shooting it while on the surface risks damaging at least something or someone because the blast doesn't stop

>>153255727
I thought it's just skin and fat

>>153254740
You can tell this is fake because Brit took damage.

>>153255758
a fleshwound is damaging more than the skin meaning the muscle and fat but not the bone.

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>>153255742
>she lost a big chunk of blood from it
It wasn't that much. They lose more blood from punching each other.
>the would for aanissa looking how it does is more excusable sicne we know his gun doesn't cause bleeding.
It does actually

>>153255748
Nah, that stops being an excuse when he fires the gun at all. There's ALWAYS going to be something in the way of his shots evetually after he fires it, but he fires it off willy-nilly in combat.

If he's not willing to kill Thragg at that point then he shouldn't be willing to shoot as much as he does.

>>153255851
Well she got grazed on her side where it's mainly skin and fat

>>153255193
>>153255116
it seems like besides the virus, all the viltrumite weaknesses are very meme tier (space race relies on thragg not one shotting him) and the virus is only effective beause the plot required the viltrumites to do basically nothing for 500 years before the start of the story.

>>153255914
I think that's probably because Kirkman never wants the viltrumites to lose, that's why he has them win in the end. They are basically his OC knockoffs of kryptonians and he's a big wanker whenever he starts talking about the concept of his characters vs others.

>>153253492
>fight on the surface
Like with everything else with the "there are only 50ish~ of them left" unnecessary subplot, you'd ahve to literally find them first to do this and if they all said "lol" and just flew into space where rognarrs can't do shit then your retarded plan doesn't work. The rognarrs really only make sense in a situation where there are, you know, more of them or they have something on the planet to protect- like labs producing anti-scourge vaccines, or shitting out viltrumite clones as a secret weapon that isn't ready yet, or some other third thing.

I'm still baffled why Kirkman didn't include some kind of Viltrumguffin for why the planet had any relevance besides it being a big space graveyard. Like maybe thragg has reanimen tech now and is reanimting the dead ones? Literally anything to make the planet relevant besides sentimental value.

>>153255876
that part of the torso is mostly the oblique muscles

>>153255860
you can see the arm is cauterized like every other hit so either animation error or you can ecxuse it as he ruprured so of his organs by strugling after. but either way tech jacket objectively caused more than a surface wound.

>>153255954
You're asking alot for Kirkman to put that much effort into his writing, anon.

>>153253611
The thing is all we can really assume is that Thragg thinks he can literally just be the race and the empire and everything and the other guys exist for him to rule over. The fact that the species is nearly extinct and then he says "fuck it I'm the best" and bangs the ant people and impregnates millions of them to make millions of his children and singlehandedly saves them from the brink and considers his ugly purple kids superior to the other viltrumites indicates that his belief is really only in himself, he is The Viltrumite and everyone else is expendable.

>>153252163
>>153252601
then there's the other plot hole
>thousands of squads of viltrumites/single agents are out in the universe fighting at the frontlines
>the virus kills all of them too, somehow
Kirkman could even fix this one by saying a lot of them went into hiding or awol when they heard about the virus and are just chilling on some distant world.

>>153255954
>Literally anything to make the planet relevant besides sentimental value.
Why tho? The Viltrumites are 100% the type of guys to protect their home planet not for actual logic but for patriotic attachment.

you can actually assume tech jacket's shot would go through the viltrumite the same way space racer did because they gave them both the same type of wound wihich in the visual language of the show's animation means they are doing the same kind of damage.

>>153251332
This post is dumb because they never planned to fight him in space. It was supposed to be an ambush, and they didn’t expect Thragg to just be waiting for them outside the planet.

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>>153253408
It was weird of them to get optimus prime to voice thaedus but didn't fix a lot of thaedus' weird actions.

I still maintain they should have said the virus only depowered the viltrumites and the depowered viltrumites were dumbfucks and the race in general were dumbfucks and massacred their own people/left them to die and Thaedus assumed the virus would force them to reconsider being a dick but they fucked themselves over, removing the " why did you literally kill your own race and make the remaining ones even more determined to figure out how to gain immunity to the virus and then conquer the rest of the galaxy" plothole, and the "why not just scourge 2 if you did scourge 1?" plothole.

>>153253546
>Thragg was resistant to Nolan's proposition because he still believed the planet could be restored.
>With that now out of the question Thragg is forced to accept that hiding and interbreeding is the only way forward
but none of that makes sense. Restore what. It's like Kylo Ren saying he wants to 'finish what vader started'. What did vader start, specifically? It's a cool line but it has no substance because he's not DOING anything, there's no explanation why the planet has any relevance at all, restoring the planet? To what? They were already going to interbreed with humans/aliens anyway, they didn't even attempt to have any kids. Like thragg specifically is the strongest he could have been like "all bitches to me, then conquest, then nolan, then the rest" and had a couple hundred kids running around.

The big problem with this being a "reimagining" is that Kirkman could have fixed these plotholes but weirdly chose to do meaningless stuff like Debbie is getting with Paul instead of nolan or tech jacket is a chick now.

>>153251421
Morbid
Tiny crack of a smile, but morbid

The usage of Ragnarrs confuses me. Isn't their whole danger based on them being super mobile on the heavy gravity of their planet? If the Viltrumites are on a planet not burdened by a ton of gravity, how do they end up being a threat?

>>153253492
People love to clown on Netflix-style overexpository dialogue, but the fact that some didn’t even understand this without the characters spelling it out kind of proves their point. It was already very clear, they literally state that the mission is to go to the planet and kill Thragg without engaging anyone else.

>>153252040
That's the thing with tech jacket, if she's not dead, she's back to 100% in 3 seconds.

>>153256055
>>153255978
I'm asking for anything at all. Maybe even thragg is like "we have concepts of a plan to make viltrumite clones in our labs but you fucked it up by blowing up the planet". Or even get super wacky and say that the planet's magic soil can revive dead viltrumites given enough time to recover from being dead as long as their body is intact and not just gore on the floor. Just any fucking thing to make the planet and the dead viltumites plot relevant.

>>153252601
They resorted to using their slaves more and long lifespans aren't too uncommon

>>153256107
but the thing is
They probably should have expected the guy who can go from surface to space in 5 seconds can do that.

>>153256134
They are extremely strong, thus their mobility in heavy gravity.

I mean I get the point is
>I can write a better version of DBZ+superman, just watch! Look at those fuckin punches holy shit!
But literally put any effort into the plot, any effort at all, so there aren't like 20 plotholes making me ask why the viltrumites just kind of slow walk extinction while talking shit about how they're totally gonna make a comeback as soo as they figure out how to have sex again.

>>153256145
Tech Jacket doesn't have infinite power

>>153251332
>Thragg could have easily killed every member of the resistance
>doesn’t just because
God this show has some of the worst writing I’ve ever seen. How fucking braindead are normies for slurping this slop?

>>153255405
>Kregg
>Teach

>>153254768
This scene wouldn't make sense tho. In the comics Thragg says "there's nothing left but revenge" and in the show "i chose death" there is no personal vendetta against Earth. So I'm not sure how theyre gonna adapt that

>>153256254
Thragg is an arrogant retard, glad you're catching on.

>>153256179
There were a million ways that literal suicide assassination mission could’ve gone wrong. They were hoping for the best and the best-case scenario was fighting Thragg on the planet’s surface.

>>153256273
or
>scourge 2
>mark, thaedus, oliver and nolan bang all the human women they can
>race restored+now they're not evil

>>153256273
Why did they throw everything they had away on a retarded faulty suicide mission that was probably going to go to shit... instead of just grinding away at the increasingly limited viltrumite forces.

>>153256269
You mean the writers are retarded.

>>153254768
>several new viltrumites despite there "only being 50" including Kregg 2
Like I said they're like elves there are always enough of them to keep the plot going.

>>153256319
They literally answer your question on the last episode.

Hey, if Thad was so remorseful, why didn't he install a suicide bomb into his body? He could have rushed Thragg and it's over.

>>153256266
>and in the show "i chose death"
Oh come on, that doesn't mean he couldn't go murder people in rage

>>153256369
Still spared Nolan and Mark tho despite them blowing up Viltrum

>Thaedus genocided his own people to near extinction through a traumatic virus and then blew up the planet
This is a good guy?

The last episode is going to be pretty boring isn't it?
>return to earth
>find out viltrumites live there now
>find out eve deletus mark's fetus
>allen decides to use scourge virus to wipe out the viltrumites even if it means the humans go with it.

>>153254991
That explains why they feel the need for so much gore.

They don't have the "pretty colors" to distract their audience.

>>153256389
Yeah but they are viltrumites
If he goes to earth and starts raping people he might kill the guardians, eve, cecil, and destroy a few cities to make a point. It's what viltrumites usually do

>>153256430
I don't think character stuff is boring, I enjoyed Nolan and Oliver on the planet

It's the hell and mafia filler shit that is annoying, them trying to deal diplomatically with the viltrumites is super interesting to me

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I fucking hate duplicunt for this line, it's even better when you realize mark and eve's relationship literally outlives immortal's memory of her.

>>153255084
Her being a knock off green lantern for the fight is so fucking stupid. If she had a bit of sense she could've changed that air into some kind of sticky resin that would've atleast obstructed his vision and breathing. Should've let her get instantly killed like in the comic.

>>153256447
No she's right, Mark and Eve's relationship is a cancer that drags the comic to shit and only exists as a vehicle for soap opera drama.

>>153256447
>Duplikate
>Never does anything worth shit
>Quits acting like she sacrificed most being a superhero
>Acts like Stacy every fuckin time

If the goal was to creat cuntiest cunt, Kirkman outdone himself.

Can’t wait to see how wokeslop show spins Eve’s abortion as a good thing actually.

>>153256447
She's right though.

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>>153256447
>Show Duplihoe's "I saved the country from getting nuked" line/tard logic is so cancerous it spread to a gag corner version of Mark and show Oliver but worse

I legit believe Duplikate is just Kirkman's new rage bait machine since Eve's dad is just the broken clock "well-meaning" asshole dad and he needed a way to memoryhole show Amber

>>153256499
Why do you keep watching shit you know will make you mad

>>153256447
Is it weird that I just hear a very thick accent from her even though she's American?
Like, Christmas Eve from Avenue Q levels of thick accent?
I'm Asian American myself and I know plenty of Asians who don't have an accent and I still hear it coming from Dupli-Kate in the comics

>>153251350
They were expecting to fight Thragg on Viltrum to be fair, they were caught off guard when he waited for them in space and forced the fight to happen there. And even then flinging them at the viltrumites and having them cling on until either they or the target died worked pretty well.

>>153256515
I don’t watch it but I can’t escape it either because it litters my feed and normies are obsessed with it. I am a forced viewer through osmosis.

>>153256544
>feed
Stop doomscrolling on social media then dumbass

>>153256399
he believes the only good viltrumite is a dead viltrumite. this is correct because as allen said, they never learn, only double down.

>>153256452
>She could just stop him mid air by altering the air particles density like we see in the show
>She could very well make them vibrate to the frequency that harms viltrumites

>She decides to go melee and be Green Lantern instead of being full fucking Dr Manhattan
>Can't even use the retarded Saiyan excuse of her trying to fight Conquest on equal terms for the love of the game and muh honor.

>>153255405
Markus is clearly the better child. What a brat, especially from that last one. A bitch karen in the making. Anissa > Eve

Thragg beat those fraud allegations like he was beating his meat in that one gif

>>153256119
They probably planned to kidnap them and force them to live on Viltrum producing kids for them. There’s still holes with this plan of course, but Thragg’s in denial and doesn’t consider what would happen in that regards.

>>153255166
I think they also say she gets better with her powers every time she has one of these rerezzes, so eventually she's just going to be able to turn Mark into the god of the universe.

>>153256526
They make her look almost stereotypically chinky in that panel

>>153256526
>Dupli-kate played by Trisha Takanawa

>>153256269
>Muh villains with ideas I disagree must be ugly dumb retards because if they were likeable people might preffer them over my clearly morally correct opinions.

Kys you propaganda consuming faggot

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>>153256644
NTA, and it is lazy writing, but it is very Kirkman writing.
Dictators aren't bad, just evil dictators are bad.
Otherwise the ending of Invincible wouldn't be Emperor Mark.

>>153254937
Honestly the fact Rudy is what caused Immortal to go crazy seems more on brand with what would inevitably happened if Rudy was left in charge long term than whatever the fuck Kirkman thought he was writing with him.

To get the obedience he’d want Rudy would absolutely do Viltrumite level purges.

>>153256673
The issue with most dictators is that they can't handle so much power, so they end up becoming corrupt and evil.

>>153255965
>that part of the torso is mostly the oblique muscles
Well regardless of what it hit, it didn't do enough damage to affect her fighting capability.
>animation error
It's not an animation error. Space Racer's gun causes bleeding in the comic too. It's clear that it can cause bleeding but the heat from the shot cauterizes the wound. Tech Jacket's shot worked the same way. The heat from the shot cauterized the wound and stopped the bleeding. Those burn marks are an accurate representation of how much damage they did. It was just a surface wound.

>>153256668
Why didn't he dodge? Why didn't any of them react?

>>153256644
They didn’t say he was ugly. He looks pretty normal for the most part.

>>153256703
That’s also why even in Empires there’s usually checks and balances to keep them from doing something too.

>>153256703
The issue with 'good' dictators is that regardless of how much of a prosocial utopian society they make, that sort of centralization can only be maintained under threat of force.
But if threat of force is what is holding your society together more than other aspects, then it is something that erodes on individuality.

>>153256733
Thragg too fast.
The gap between Thragg and Conquest might be bigger than the gap between Conquest and Immortal.

>>153256733
>Why didn't any of them react?
Because Thragg is moving too fast for them to react
>But why doesn't he do this and kill them with the Speedforce
Because Kirkman is a hack

>>153256762
No, you're full of shit. Thragg gets his shit rocked instantly when 4 viltrumites attack him at once, not even slightly able to resist.

>>153256673
I was talking about the fact that fags keep calling chuds to anyone who points out how much they missed the mark with Thragg in the show.
>D-don't you know, he is a manchild, of course he is supposed to have a baby face!
>Ye-yeah chud! He is supposed to be retarded be-because... his idieologies are retarded!
>What you want him to be intimidating?! You want him to be compelling?! What are you A NAZI?!!?

The idea of "It's done shitty on purpose" is one of the worst things that the irony poisoned internet has brought us

>>153256061
They gave them both the same type of wound because they did the same damage. But that doesn't mean they will do the same damage with a direct hit. You're not seriously saying Tech Jacket's shot does the same amount of damage as Space Racer's shot, are you?

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>>153256668
Man they didn't even bother with this frame. Hi Paul. and they copy pasted some Nolan head on top

>>153256742
Also it costs way more and hurts the economy to constantly invest first and foremost in weapons for violence, whereas there’s much more tangible benefits with building infrastructure and supporting society logistically. People underestimate just how much globalization kept the world functioning until they feel firsthand the damage of disrupting it causes.

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>>153256791
That's comic Thragg, the same version of Thragg who Nolan and Mark made bleed in their first fight. It's obvious show Thragg is much stronger so that's not gonna happen

>>153256814
Debbie refuses a three way with an old man!

>>153256826
That's not an example of Thragg being stronger in the cartoon when Mark was also bleeding alot less in the cartoon version of this fight

>>153256791
Okay, I should have couched my language a bit more.
With how Thragg is presented in this episode, it makes it seem like Conquest is weaker than the Immortal is compared to Conquest.
I believe this is a mistake that leaves Thragg as incoherently strong in the setting.

>>153256845
Comic Thragg was fazed by Mark's punches, retard. Show Thragg wasn't

>>153256826
It will happen in the show too, the powerlevels will get fucked again

>>153256810
Oh no I get what you mean, I am just saying that I'm pretty sure Kirkman likes the idea of a single ruler society.
That's why morality in Invincible often seems like it is situated on Mark rather than something consistent.
It isn't on purpose per se, but rather because Kirkman is a hack but a brilliant salesman.

>>153256871
Mark gave thragg a nosebleed in the comics, but his fist still nounces off his forehead

>>153256742
Monarchy: Dictatorship + Nepotism, and optionally incest
Dictatorship: How Jews rule the world
Democracy: How Jews tell Goyim to rule lesser Goyim

>>153256447
she's a realistic depiction of asian "wives" once you get past the yellow fever, they're vapid, materialistic bitches

>>153256888
Also
democracy: Decides to nationalize corporations to ensure the money is in the peoples hands
>US comes in and overthrows them to install Dictatorship or restore Monarchy to exploit them for US and Israel

>>153254368
It’s probably even more retarded in the comics when guys like Spawn are just walking around.

>>153256728
it went through her oblique muscles meaning if it hit her chest if would go through her chest muscles and damage vital organs. even if you assume it wouldn't vamorize the bones. it was a flesh wound that missed hitting a critical spot

>>153256811
>You're not seriously saying Tech Jacket's shot does the same amount of damage as Space Racer's shot, are you?
to the viltrumites? YES. Space racer completely far exceeds the durability of any viltrumite or object seen in the series so durabiltiy is irrelvant to it. tech jacket doessn't have to have a shot be as powerful to deal the same amount of damage to a viltrumite all it has to do to deal the same aamoundt of damage is bypass the durability check. and they both do which is why they did the same damage

>>153251350
You dont. You make them AI controlled.

>>153253752
True of literally any weapon. Don't give cops guns as if the criminals disarm them the cops are vulnerable!

>>153254426
Tech Jacket, have you ever read the online web-serial Worm? We were thinking what if instead of ants you controlled a swarm of killer monsters in jetpacks.

>>153253492
Yeah the actual plan was a ground invasion/sneak attack. Thragg engaging them in space was unexpected

>>153257418
Why would they think Viltrum would have no scanner network or any other security as is common to star civilizations?
Just because the Viltrumites are obsessed with Ungabunga tactics doesn't mean they have no advanced technology.

>>153257442
Thragg's idea of a quarantine was also an information quarantine, but also Viltrum has a science division based on what Nolan said about the Solar Disk.
So who the fuck knows.

>>153257037
>it went through her oblique muscles
It grazed her oblique muscles at best and she brushed it off. That shot simply didn't do the damage you're making it out to be.
>>153257079
>all it has to do to deal the same aamoundt of damage is bypass the durability check
There's no such thing as a binary "durability check". It can be powerful enough to injure viltrumites without being a kill shot.
>which is why they did the same damage
They did the same damage because they're both grazing shots. You know for a fact that Space Racer's shot was a grazing shot.

>>153255117
Eve is not fully immortal. She can be killed before her powers kick in.

>>153257570
Yeah presumably you could just squish her head and she'd be dead dead.

>>153257616
Which makes it bullshit how many times she's slapped around by viltrumites and somehow her head survives, even when chunks of her face are getting ripped off.

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Tragg is one of the worst examples of villains! On the one hand everything is great. He's incredibly strong, he not just dumb evil, he has own goals. BUT! The plot does everything possible to make him don't just kill everyone. He just sits there and watches, or he decides not to kill anyone and so on

I hate it

>>153251332
they should have saved the infinity gun for a surprise murk against thragg

>>153257696
>save
it doesn't run on ammo

>>153253442
tiddy meat

>>153256814
nolan looks like he's trying to look away in disgust kek

>>153251332
...
Run this by me again, how much of the "weakest" have the Viltrumites culled out after that mass genocide of theirs? 50%? 75%? 90%? Any number in-between?

Why can't Invincible's fights have high quality animation like shonen anime and superhero cartoons from the 90s and early 2000s do? Comparing the "fights" from Invincible to the fights in Justice League Unlimited, Dragon Ball, Naruto etc. is appalling. It really opens your eyes to how slow and lazy the fights are from a choreographical standpoint in Invincible.

>>153256814
Oh god this isn't an edit.

>>153255703
>>153255721
definitely not the last season, their fight starts in issue 115 and lasts thru the start of Issue 120. Definitely would be Season 6, and frankly there's enough content for at least 8 total seasons(so four more seasons)

>>153257801
because episodes too long
because kirkman treats the show like it is live action

>>153252054
the entire retarded storyline around viltrum comes from kirkman needing to severely limit how many viltrumites are actually alive. you could say they all had really bad stomach aches and died, which would be as thematically impactful as thadeus being able to magically genocide his species

>>153257749
It seems like there are two purges.
One Great Purge that happened during Argall's reign.
One little purge that happened after his death.
The first one was an unknown number of deaths.
The second one was Thragg being sad and the numbers were still high enough to be in the billions for the Scourge to kill.

>>153257835
>because episodes too long
It's 8 eight episodes every 2ish years. Most cartoons from the 90s and the early 2000s went on for 20-26 episodes a season.

>>153254368
kirkman says powerscaling is retarded and that the only thing that matters is storytelling. Whilst writing a story about superheroes who must overpower the villains...

>>153257931
>powerscaling is retarded and that the only thing that matters is storytelling.
Lol sounds like Oda, or as I call him, Hackda

>>153257891
Companies like pricey actors more than properly paying animators.

>>153257558
a.308 doesn't need to be a powerful as .50 to pass straight through a human all the same.both will be a flesh wound if it misses a vital spot and both are equally lethal if they hit a vital spot.

you are just being willfully retarded about this. they went through the trouble of giving a dramatic close of the shots charging, it's travel time, it's impact with the viltrumite barely dodging at the last seond as he gets injured while she has a shocked expression to emphasize that her barely dodging it is significant. you are essentially saying she needn't bother dodging but it would be the same superficial wound on a direct hit but only a retard would believe tha. like you are trying to cling to the idea that tech ajcket can't kill viltrumites even if we are sitll shown that the attack is dodgeabile and she is in a clear disadvantage in a close range encounter.

>>153257931
>kirkman says powerscaling is retarded and that the only thing that matters is storytelling.
I see. So that's why Mark will be moving like 100 miles a second during a viltrumite fight but suddenly be slower than a bullet when he's fighting the street level villain of the week. It must also be why Mark's durability will fluctuate from being strong enough to withstand the heat of a planet's core to weak enough to be BTFO by random bugs

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>>153257973
There's a lotta bad power scaling in Invincible. Dinosaurus is gonna be the face of it next year

>>153257931
Then why is Kirkman's storytelling also terrible?

>>153257973
I mean, isn't that the case since forever? Flash is also always as fast, as the plot needs him to be.

>>153257891
Well no I mean like the runtime is too long. It is the sort of problem that amplifies instead of plateauing.
22 minute episodes are a lot less strenuous in that regard.
It doesn't help matters that they are basically taking the hardest path of adaptation, between a scene for scene and a rebuild. So they aren't using the comic book as guidance for storyboarding.

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>>153258020
Because he's a dramafag and 2000s shock jock who likes to drag his work out for money.

>>153258025
Yes, but the way you avoid straining disbelief is by not putting the Flash in positions where his speed makes serious moments feel incongruous.
Like being much faster than light speed effectively makes it so he can be omnipresent on Earth.

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Kirkman - king of hacks. Still fun to read the discourse he creates

>>153251332
said thaddy, before the head ripper offer ripped off his head

>>153251332
Why didn't Thragg just have the strong breed to produce more strong children?

>>153253663
>I don't remember any female viltrumites in the viltrumite war getting killed in any other way than getting eaten by rognarrs.
Maybe it would be too sexist to have women be killed by men.

>>153254368
>Eve has to be specifically neutered to make her not instantly solve the entire viltrumite problem because otherwise she could turn Conquest into a cloud of flower petals with a thought, and so on.
It is extremely fucking retarded that the American government were able to just create a god like her. If she didn't have her "mental block" she could solve all the problems in the universe.

>>153258201
according to Viltrumite traditions having sex is gay

Does someone have the thragg impact frame?

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Can't believe Thadeus got Pitou'd'

>>153256349
when?

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>>153258286
For someone who likes to shit on DC superheroes, Kirkman created a parody of Green Lantern that's infinitely worse. All Eve needs is her own corps of jobbers.

>>153251332
why didn't the viltrumites simply breed with the rognarr

>>153253611
>>153253732
>>153256014
I think the main point they’re going to make with the antagonist in the series, is going to be “racial purity bad, hmmkay?” and “he let his people be killed because of his outdated viewpoints on how a Viltrumite should be, hmmkay.” The fact that they retconned the purge and made Thragg the one to order it validates my point.
While that’s true to some extent, he’s the strongest, and he clearly can’t see from others’ point of view since he’s beyond the rest of the Viltrumites. And if the others are so blind that they can’t see his ways are leading them to extinction, well… they might as well follow their leader to their deaths.

>>153253472
Did the show change shit or something, because I only really care about the comic, and in that, Battle Beast injures himself pretty much at the start of the fight, as his GF released the contingency Rognarrs that were supposed to kill Thragg if he failed at the beginning of it instead in a futile attempt to save him from conducting the battle.

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>>153259193
>the main point they’re going to make with the antagonist in the series, is going to be “racial purity bad, hmmkay?”
Except one of the recent episodes made it clear that one of Omni-Man's explicit goals was to find another race that Viltrumites could successfully breed with because the Viltrumite population is so low that they need to find another species that can help them repopulate the Viltrum race.

Nolan marrying Debbie wasn't just a thing he did because he fell in love with her, he made it sound like this was an explicit order that Thragg probably approved that Viltrumites should go around fucking alien races to see which ones can produce viable Viltrumite offspring like Mark.

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>>153259167
there's nothing down there...

Will Thragg go to Earth this time round tho

>>153257968
>a.308 doesn't need to be a powerful as .50 to pass straight through a human all the same
That shot hasn't shown it can do to a viltrumite what a .308 can do to a human.
>you are essentially saying she needn't bother dodging
Obviously it matters if she dodges or not because it can injure her but you're jumping to the conclusion that it can punch a hole straight through her when there's no evidence of that.

Why does Oliver think he's hot shit, when he never won anything. Is it just teenager being a retard?

>>153254161
Invincible makes every world breaking mistake you can with a power system.
-Upper tier is exclusively basic flying bricks sorted by power level.
-Eve has the most important broken power in the history of the universe and nobody gives a shit.
-An entire species of hyper predators strong enough to fuck up continent busters. which means you can toss 1 of them on a planet and wipe out the entire population
-Viltrumites not just cloning themselves back from extinction
-Interdimensional portals existing and nobody trying to weaponize them
- We can't replicate or give this technology to someone because reasons

>>153259443
>power system
oh my god
THIS IS NOT REAL
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT
BLAME KIRKMAN'S WRITING INCONSISTENCY

>>153259440
He's like, 2 years old