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>>153252826
Bump if you are reading both or one

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BEHOLD THE NEW AND IMPROVED AND NOW TECHNORGANIC VICTOR CYBORG

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Because how long it took for DC to mention Smallville Cyborg?

>>153252971
Did DC forget about Grid?

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>>153252979
Osterman murderfucked Grid into a permanent death

>>153252922
So it's just the Omegadrome + Clone Body shit from the early 00s again, basically.

>>153252982
>my machine-self proceeded to kidnap you then built all of this
>his own mecha-world where he could keep his friends safe
>even if it's against their will
Remind me again how this isn't just the Technis Imperative?

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In the end Tara markov never hated her family aka the titans or her brother, she simply is a retarded tsundere, and the redemption arc is in

And 4chan is shitting itself again

>>153253040
The whole point of the parts with old Titans is its satirizing all their old plot points/story beats. Last issue barely had a plot because 90% of the issue was that.

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And there she is, and brombal said that Victor and Tara will be very close.

Next Stop, Nightwing.

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Now if 4chan doesnt shit itself again
This is how Dick's life is after last issue's shenanigans, which is sounding like Daredevil.

>>153253111
A lot of people are probably gonna agree with Terra until we learn more about Eva.
>>153252979
Honestly, this feels like a new origin story for Grid.

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Also there will be a Zatanna preview at the end of this storytime, i didn't include in titans because it makes no sense adding early on.

>>153252865

God damn I was confused by them calling Spoiler in her Spoiler outfit "Batgirl".

>>153253160
This reads and looks like he got raped.

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>>153253281
nah, is waters wanting to give dick the miller's daredevil treatment

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How many many times was bludhaven and gotham's origins tied to satanic black magic and sick shit?

>>153253342
Bludhaven? Pretty sure this is the first time. Nobody's really gone into any of its deep history/past before.

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And here is the Zatanna preview

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And That's It!
Support your LCS if you like
I was going to add Deathstroke too but that deserves its own thread for reasons.
Lobo is also getting covered unless someone does it since yesterday it was nearly impossible.

>>153253105
The whole point of the FIRST issue was satirizing the old plot points and story beats. They're in the real world now, and the real world threat is still just another repeat of a story they already did.

>>153253491
So is this Nightwing meets Supernatural?
Because it feels like Nightwing meets Supernatural.

>>153253491
Dick you need to fuck the witch. That's the only way out of this. Babs will understand. I hear she's in jail now.

>>153252995
1998 was late 90s not early 2000.

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>>153253644
Yeah, and they already did one of the main cast being split between their two halves earlier in the volume (plus, Johns already did it specifically with Cyborg in his JL run).

I can't tell if it's meant to be self-aware or if it's just oblivious.

>>153253111
>schoolgirl in american comics
:|
>schoolgirl in japanese comics
:3
>japanese schoolgirl in american comics
:/

>>153252826
And Deathstroke is done >>153253763

Moving to Lobo

Last issue in this new Titans run was all about how the series needed to change and introduced new characters as a means to that end. But this issue is something that could have been done with the OG team, nothing would have changed.

Swap Jon Kent, Yara, and Batgirl for idk Aqualad, Speedy, and Kid Flash and nothing would have been different.
The premise that the most popular version of the team is overdone in some way is stupid if you are just going to do the same stories with a worse team.

Plus this "New Titans" line-up looks really lame. Faggot Jon Kent shouldn't be on any time. Yara Flor has never been an interesting character nor really had a concrete personality, Stephanie Brown's only role in the Bat family is to be on the bottom of every popularity ranking. (plus when you have people with the powers of fucking Superman and Wonder Woman on the team, what the hell would the worst Batgirl be able to do?)

The Fantastic Four have managed to have the same cast have plenty of fun adventures for many decades, it's ridiculous to suggest that the Teen Titans needed to change. Just have them do something new and fun

>>153254372
Titans have been circling the drain since the 90s. We are talk about a book that was able to compete with the Claremont X-Men and now it's c/d-list book if we are being charitable even with the OG characters.

>>153253754
I'm not seeing self-awareness on the similarities to Technis Imperative or GRID or even the Dark-Winged Queen arc.
>>153254372
Thank you. What genius actually thought the Titans would be improved by shoehorning in gay superboy, popozuda wonder girl, and worst batgirl.

I agree DC overthinks the Titans. Just hire some writer with the mandate to not do Trigon, Deathstroke/Traitor, Brother Blood or them feeling lesser than the JL and you can probably get something decent. Adding 5 new sidekicks isn't gonna do much.

I also feel like new ideas/pitches for those characters as individuals is probably harder than it looks. Some of that is due to Wolfman getting most of his characters to their natural conclusion in NTT.

Cyborg is the most obvious example. He has been in a dozen Titans books, a dozen Justice League books, JL Odyssey, and like four solo books and no writer has found any interesting angles for him. He should probably just stay in the Titans because nobody has any better ideas.

I feel like Beast Boy and Raven should be integrated with the more Vertigo characters like Doom Patrol, JL Dark, Hellblazer, Animal Man. I'm not sure you are ever gonna get the most out of these characters in mainline DC.

Maybe Starfire could hold a solo book in space, but you need a good sci-fi writer because most of DC Cosmic isn't very interesting.

Nightwing had to reinvented as basically a completely different street-level character when he got his solo. Donna Troy, Roy Harper, Tempest...They are all just sidekicks who are never replacing their mentors and their franchises aren't big enough to allow them to develop like Nightwing did. Being on a Titans book is probably as good as it gets for them.

>>153254099
Lobo is out >>153254787
Therefore all missing issues from yesterday are done

>>153252893
The demonic hell chains are new

>>153252947
I don't recall Yara making a forcefield before

>>153253018
Oh I guess everyone is getting new powers

Did Steph contribute in any way?

>>153253228
thats her outfit since shes been a batgirl since after rebirth. notice the bat symbol

>>153255291
stephs drones attacked cyborg a bit

>>153255808
Fact, is the new canon, stephanie never was robin or was teen pregnant.

>>153254626
>worst batgirl.
steph isnt gook girl shes off doing stuff in her own book

>>153255899
no she was still robin it was mentioned in the new history of the dc universe mini last year. however they did not mention the pregnancy

>>153253228
She's been Batgirl since she added a bat on the rebirth spoiler costume.

>>153255986
I forgot that, had to check out, the torture was written off, so is obvious that DC is rewriting everything to keep the most retarded stuff from the past out of the new canon.

She only became Batgirl recently in the new timeline.

>>153253228
>>153255808
Aside from the Bat-logo her New 52 Spoiler costume was pretty similar to her old Batgirl look, they just swapped up her mask from a Batcowl to a mouth mask and a hood

>>153255899
>>153256016
Everything is canon again

People remember both the Post-Crisis and New 52 versions of their lives

Steph remembers being Robin and Batgirl and people remember her as both

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>>153252826
Titans variant covers
New Titans #34 Cover B Ethan Young Variant
New Titans #34 Cover C Stephen Byrne Variant
New Titans #34 Cover D Fico Ossio Things to Come Variant

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>>153253143
Dick variants:
Nightwing #137 Cover B David Nakayama Variant
Nightwing #137 Cover C Martin Simmonds Variant
Nightwing #137 Cover D Denys Cowan Things to Come Variant

>WATTERS AND COWAN EXPLORE MORE FOLKLORE! There have long been legends of something bestial lurking in the forests just outside of Bludhaven . Some say it's demonic. Others think it's extraterrestrial. When a trail of violent incidents seems to connect this creature to the city's new super-highway, Nightwing resolves to get to the bottom of it. What he uncovers will bring one of his Titans teammates to Bludhaven , looking for some long-overdue closure...
Nightwing #138 Cover B Dani Variant
Nightwing #138 Cover C Philip Tan Variant

>NIGHTWING… CRIMINAL?! A new prosecutor is determined to hold Nightwing accountable for his alleged crimes, challenging Blüdhaven's once beloved hero to turn himself in to the police. As long-buried bodies surface beneath the city's highway, Dick Grayson must confront the cost of his choices and decide whether saving Blüdhaven means finally facing the law.
Nightwing #139 Cover B Ben Harvey VariantCover B Ben Harvey Variant
Nightwing #139 Cover C Gabriel Hardman Variant

There's a good chance starfire got pregnant

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>>153257382
Thus Elayna'r Grayson is born

>>153253712
Omegadrome + Clone Body was Grayson/Faeber Titans issue 20, which came out in 2000.
Don't fuck with me, casual, I have the floppy in my longbox.

I'm all for convenient consolidation but if you were gonna put Deathstroke in a separate thread when you had a flimsy excuse to put it in this one, you should have given Nightwing a separate thread

These may as well be two separate Dicks

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>>153257607
>New Titans #33: Aren't you tired of this franchise just rehashing the same stories over and over? What if we did something different?

>*look inside*

>New Titans #34: WHAT IF CYBORG GOT SPLIT BETWEEN HIS HUMAN SIDE AND HIS ROBOTIC SIDE? WHAT IF HIS ROBOTIC SIDE WAS EVIL? WHAT IF WE RETREADED DICK/KORY/BARBARA DRAMA?

The joke's on me I know

>>153255251
Titans should function more like Teen Titans Spotlight from the late 80s. Short stories highlighting different members of the team. It doesn't have to be solo adventures, but it's not trying to juggle a large cast in every issue. Raven, Beast Boy, and Troia all work in the Vertigo style. Cyborg should read like a mid 00s Warren Ellis sci-fi book. Starfire could go cosmic and try to pilot an Omega Men relaunch, but I'd rather see her on Earth. Maybe Ryand'r comes to live with her in New York or something.. Arsenal should be back in the spy fiction space, contracting with the CBI or Checkmate like he did in the 90s.
Aqualad is fucked, he's Aquaman but more boring.

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>>153257892
>WHAT IF WE RETREADED DICK/KORY/BARBARA DRAMA?
It's shocking to me how it keeps happening every 3 years

>>153257471
I hope they bring back Mar'i

>>153253257
Everytime Batman uses the Batcomputer, it makes me wonder why does he need Oracle in the first place.
That's why I always felt that Oracle is a silly superhero.

>>153253491
This feels pretty by the books but I'm enjoying. Even something that's not too crazy can be an enjoyable read sometimes, but is there anything else that leads into this? Or is this a general All-In jump in if you want run? I could use more books to read, especially with the one dollar backlog weekends here

>>153258560
The previous two issues are essentially a restart of the run

I enjoyed Watters stuff for the most part prior but Dexter Wordfilter was not the artist that should have been on the book and Cowan is a WAY better fit for the tone

>>153255291
>I don't recall Yara making a forcefield before
I think it's supposed to be the burst of energy Wonder Woman and company can make by clashing their bracelets together

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>>153258478
Aged up superhero kids from the future are always fun.

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>>153258798
Pre-Flashpoint Diana was able to bang her bracelets together to make a shield because her bracelets were forged from the Aegis

Can't recall if the other Amazons could pull it off too

>>153255251
Actually I think you could do some interesting stuff with Donna with all the New Cronus stuff, but literally only Phil Jimenez remembers that's a thing.