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Was Dinosaurus right?
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>>153252916
No. Environmentalism started as a fairly good idea for humanity's best interest, but for the last several decades it's basically just been a tool used by governments to manipulate the poor and explain how they need to sacrifice their quality of life for the sake of the 'greater good' while the rich fly around in their private jets.
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>>153252916
No, and neither was Robot.
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>>153253044
Why does he keep having these lameass tyrant villains able to just instantly achieve things with no actual organic development on their part to make it happen, and then everyone instantly bending the knee instead of opposing them?
Is it just shit writing due to a lack of care to put effort into the comic or is it shit writing due to being ones of those loser creatives "subverting expectations".
>I could use all of you together
Very first action was to randomly sperg out and try to murder all superheroes with a sneak attack (and succeeding in alot of cases) and they couldn't even put up any significant resistance against the army of murderbots because Kirkman doesn't let superheroes show any credibility
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>>153253109
Honestly the answer is just Kirkman is a shit writer in the end, plus he cared more about the walking dead which was also a dragged-out mess of a story.
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>>153254623
Nah, Kirkman is just the kind of spiteful fag that would mock others characters for something he himself does.
Him and Ottley really that petty side of them shine through when talking about fictional characters.
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>>153252916
always was
>>153254395
dinosaurus is not epstein class
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>>153254935
>its fine, we should do nothing to clean up the planet.
>it's fine that there are microplastics in all of our bloodstreams.
>it's fine that conservatives are in the pockets of the meat industry and we continue to slaughter millions of animals constantly instead of even try to even find out if lab grown meat is nutrionally the same and tastes the same
>don't worry about the pacific garbage patch
>let's keep building cities in deserts before a water shortage
>people die in wars but it's okay because capitalism, if some die that more can live that's evil doh
>manufactured scarcity is cool
>planned obsolescence is cool
>externalities are cool
>imaginary money is cool
>infinite growth/profit is the ideology of cancer and breaks the 2nd law of thermodynamics, but i'm okay with it
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>>153253038
Faggot
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>>153254997
Shut up captain planet
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>>153252916
No, malthusians are all fucking retarded and that includes Dinosaurus and Kirkman
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>>153253109
If Amanda didn't pipe that alien with her monster cock, all the suffering could've been avoided.Robot's arc only exists as Kirkman wanting to prove his cuck fetish had long lasting consequences rather than merely 2000s edgelording
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>>153252916
No. Dinosaurus is a retarded schizo worse than picrel.
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>>153254997
>it's fine that conservatives are in the pockets of the meat industry and we continue to slaughter millions of animals constantly instead of even try to even find out if lab grown meat is nutrionally the same and tastes the same
This guy eats bugs.
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>>153253038
Agreed.
>>153253044
>Known jobber faggot Immortal has more of a backbone than Brit
Being invulnerable really makes you bitch made
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>>153253006
First post has it right. Kirkman is legitimately just too retarded to handle concepts like this, while hiding behind a paper-thin layer of irony which may as well just be the 'I was just joking bro' defence.
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>>153255568
His power is being immortal, why is yet another flying brick in the series?
Nothing about the character makes sense, if anything shouldn't he have supernatural powers he's picked up from his nature over that lifespan?
Why give him generic flying brick powers but make him so much weaker than any viltrumite characters, is Kirkman as a southener still butthurt about losing the Civil War so he randomly decided to include an immortal Abe Lincoln in his comic to endlessly torture?
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>>153255674
>is Kirkman as a southener still butthurt about losing the Civil War so he randomly decided to include an immortal Abe Lincoln in his comic to endlessly torture?
Most likely. Would explain things like Bulletproof and show Amber.
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>>153255035
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>>153255557
>guns kill people, so we should take everyone's right to self defense away and ban guns
>drunk drivers kill people, so we should prohibit alcohol and sue car companies
>some capitalists are taking advantage of environmental movements, so we should abandon all positive change or try to make the world better
>>153255226
>malthusian
>is unaware of the literal history of famine. thinks severe water scarcity, food insecurity, habitat loss, biodiversity extinction, and intensified climate change due to pollution and high energy consumption are not real
>guize it's really simple. don't neuter or spay any stray animals and just keep feeding them
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>>153253038
>hurr durr gubment
the government is controlled by capitalists. oil industry knew about carbon emissions and did nothing to change or control damage
>sacrifice their quality of life
safer and clean nuclear energy would improve quality of life but oil industry probably doesn't want that, and the oil industry would definitely be interested in siphoning a little bit of their own money to propaganda campaigns against solar and wind to keep making millions
strait of hormuz is blocked but somehow it's not an incentive to use alternative energy. go figure
it's okay though. we should just let greater israel have control of the oil, right?
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>>153255987
no argument
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>>153255950
>is unaware of the literal history of famine
The population of the world is now billions when it used to be millions in the past
And guess what, less people die of hunger today than they ever did in history
The only one unaware about history is you. You think that just because commie countries had famines last century it proves Malthus right? Lol.
>>153256007
>strait of hormuz is blocked but somehow it's not an incentive to use alternative energy
Yeah, because its hard to set up, you can't build a nuclear power plant in a fucking week.
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>>153253115
Amanda's fault for being a weak femoid. Her loneliness and moralfaggotry lead to him chimping out, killing people, and taking over the world. Hoes need to learn to be loyal or their man will commit the greatest atrocities
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>>153256054
>less people die today than ever did in history
basic internet search proves this false
>projects dunning kruger effect on to opponent
>you can't build a nuclear power plant in a week
never said you could. that's true though. power/utility companies would have to find a way to price gouge
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>>153256109
>basic internet search proves this false
Obviously in % terms, no shit, more people die of murder when there are more people in general
We haven't had a serious famine in the capitalist west since when, the second world war? Because of the war forcing food rationing?
Just give it up retard, people made the same argument as dinosaurus during the industrial revolution
>Oh god, society will collapse, we cannot keep growing!
And then we simply kept growing.
>to find a way to price gouge
You are so fucking retarded
Yes, price gouging is why it takes time to build nuclear power plants, clearly. Jesus christ.
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>>153256172
>and then we simply kept growing
>with climate change
>with increasing pollution
>with microplastics in our bloodstream and sperm
>and atrazine in the water
>and forever chemicals
>>153256172
>price gouging is why nuclear plants
you're too dumb to pick up on sarcasm and miss my point that providing cheap energy is something the ruling class does not want for everyone. you stupid dumbfuck
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>>153252916
he got defeated by invincible just asking "what if you're wrong?" and then he instantly gave up and committed off panel suicide. Fucking pathetic writing. The comic is largely retarded padding until a viltrumite shows up.
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>>153256512
>with *problems that will not end the human race or even kill millions*
In 100 years people will have made up new problems to justify this retardation, just like they did in the industrial revolution or when the digital era started
>providing cheap energy is something the ruling class does not want for everyone
You are retarded. Oil companies lobby for oil because they sell oil, not because they "don't want cheap energy"
Want to solve the issue? Destroy regulations that stop investors from building solar, wind and nuclear all over the place. But you won't, you will support more regulations instead (because you are convinced there is a magical elite that dislikes cheap energy), making the problem worse and more entrenched
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>>153256054
>Yeah, because its hard to set up, you can't build a nuclear power plant in a fucking week.
This is the problem. Nobody wants to even try because it takes time and effort. Path of least resistance + short view of the future.
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>>153256563
>it's okay if it's merely dysgenic and weakens humanity as a species
>hurr durr oil cheap
yeah because that's the way to control energy in to being available though one means. a cheap monopoly is still a monopoly, dipshit
>regulations that stop solar
>but you won't
it's true that those things won't happen if the government is controlled by capitalists and the oil lobby
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>>153256599
>it's okay if it's merely dysgenic and weakens humanity as a species
Yes anon, in literally 2 weeks we will all fucking drop dead and earth will explode because of global warming, two more weeks until your favorite talking dinosaur is proved right
>it's true that those things won't happen if the government is controlled by capitalists
See? You want the government to be controlled by somebody else, you don't want to fix the issue. You will INCREASE regulations because you are scared of plastic and the problem will get even worse, as it always does when people like you are in charge
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>>153254375
Kirkman and his glass house.
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>>153256007
>strait of hormuz is blocked but somehow it's not an incentive to use alternative energy
China, Denmark,Spain and others were bragging that they got hurt less because they pushed alternative energy.
And I think Frenchies said the same because nuclear
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>>153256767
You guys just prove it right over and over with complacency. It's the same shit that happens with most endangered animals in a clear repeated pattern. Nobody cares to do anything when the early signs are there, and then once it becomes serious enough and they finally give a shit to try anything it's already too late. Everyone throws their hands up and goes "we tried."
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>>153256802
sure, but would a comic book company allow that? they're full of liberals who show their true colors when they depict ethnofascism.
even with kipo you get bullshit like "let the murderous villain live or you're just as bad as them" then the villain murders a main character
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>>153253038
These for our world, and absolutely not in his world.
Even with the oddities of the larger image universe crossover trimmed away, interplanetary travel exists in the Skybound or whatever universe and Dinosaurus isn't unaware of it considering his reaction to the Vilrtumites later.
At that point there's no reason to prioritize what amounts to a bloated arts and crafts project in some dusthole when means of significant strides in civilization are around.
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>>153256838
>Is so hated people cheered when Mark's baby mama threatened her
Cursed and pointless race swap, even if she's more interesting to talk about
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>>153256931
the environment is a serious problem but it's also a serious problem how long they've been crying wolf. Saying the ice caps will be gone within 5 years for every 5 year stretch of time since 1980 has numbed people. Nobody cares and I can't blame them.
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>>153256007
>muh capitalists
Not a consequence of capitalism. Corruption is to be expected and power will be abused by the powerful, but we lost the ability to protect against it through purely political means. Your country was doing fine before the political class realized they could do whatever they wanted as long as they pitted voting blocks against each other, bribing them with handouts and preferential treatment, locking them into being self-serving, single issue voters. Universal suffrage was a terrible idea and everyone's been propagandized into thinking it's fundamental to the American identity because that's the only way a congressman can deliver literally 0% of the time and still get elected over and over.
Anyway, man-made climate change is mostly fake and gay. If you want to save the world from smokestacks and plastic bags, you should go be an eco terrorist in China or India. Even if I'm completely wrong about climate change, that'd be the only way to make even the smallest dent.
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>>153256007
Anon Africa imports 85% of its food from over seas, how sustainable is that? How much carbon does that add to the atmosphere? How does the second most populated continent not being able to feee itself help the environment?
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>>153257423
Invincible is too safe edgy to do that, even if lefties are starting to hate pajeets
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Schizosaurus
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In principle? Yeah. is not even about the planet, is about long term survival.
You are literally going trough an slow motion apocalypse right now, and I'm talking more about the problems over population and the amount of resources the planet has to offer. We will run out eventually and the response people in power have is "some solution will come up eventually, so we don't have to worry lol."
And that's only one of the issues, AI, bacteria resistant antibiotics, the over decadency of culture and freedoms and of course, climate change and it's consequences. Is very much the question of do you want to a lot of people to die now and give humanity an chance of survival or wait until everyone is dead later?
Nigersaurus is the type of person that chooses the later, but since he is alone and can only achieve his goals trough extreme means he often over corrects that leads to more issues (in the short run). But just because someone doing something did it wrong, that doens't mean the idea is wrong itself. I honestly believe in all the crap tumblrinas spill, about trans rights, equality between races, gender equality and crap like that, I like those ideals, but I'm also aware the people defending and the people promoting them are all retards that make the issue worse and by mostly feeding their own ego, making their entire ideology hard to defend to anyone sane.
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>>153252916
the whole hook was Dinosaurus had something of a point in his ramblings but his solutions were absurdly psychotic even if there was a grain of good idea in there somewhere. Mark was definitely the wrong person to try and sift through that though
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>>153253125
Because Rudy fucking murdered a shitload of superheroes minding their fucking business not even opposing him with sneak attacks without even talking to them first? Cecil only put a bomb in Marks ear because his dad literally almost conquered the planet and wiped out his first team and he wasn't sure if Mark was going to go AWOL.
>>153252916
To answer OP literally proven by Mark that Dinosaurus plans could positively impact the planet without deciding to randomly genocide shitloads of people to do so.
Alongside Angstrom Levy and Power Plex Invincibles villian motivations suck ass
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>>153254623
The jabs at DC and Marvel are his seething bleeding through into his writing that Image comics will always be chump change compared to DC and Marvel.
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BAN PRIVATE JETS OR SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY
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>>153257074
>corruption is to be expected, anon
>but also, let's do capitalism, which is specifically the opposite of a meritocracy and specifically rewards greed and corruption,
>man-made climate change is fake and gay
confirmed for retarded
>china and india
china has the majority of eco friendly energy extraction in the world and indians, especially the ones living in poverty, have a smaller carbon footprint than people in the capitalist west
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>>153258644
>dinosaurus plans could positively impact the planet
i think in the comic he tried that but would have needed more help and cecil would have never given a shit because the people in charge are about security, status quo and control, not prosperity or safety
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>>153253038
The same governments that are doing jackshit when it comes to environmentalism?
>>153258218
Stop spreading lies
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>>153259174
Keep coping
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>>153255674
>if anything shouldn't he have supernatural powers he's picked up from his nature over that lifespan?
No? Why would you, he's Vandal Savage with flight. Although he could have been more like Victor from Undead Unluck
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>>153258423
Anon. The problem wiyh resources are the people in power who misuse it and lay claim to what they dont own.
Do you think the slave class were in favor of cutting diwn the redwoods? Or was it the billionaire monster class.
Name a single verified problem you are complaining about that can't be laid squarely at theur feet.
Hell the overpopulation and climate control RELIGION is a convenient unproven lie that 8s an extension of the cult if malthusvabd eugenicist insanity.
If tomorrow we found limitless free energy that also creates bountiful food by extension would we have a problem?
We can fit everyone in america into an area the size of texas and everyone on earth into an area roughly the size of half of America.
Go on. Tell us why thats bad.
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>>153256768
>Mark: muh lazy
Everyone will always remember "It's a bird, it's a plane, no it's Superman... faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound...", "Spider-Man, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can" and "I'm Batman"
meanwhile "uuuh here comes Invincible...?"
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>>153259388
So is climate change. We have coastlines that have remained the same for thousands of years across the globe.
Here's a hint. When idiots try to say a coastline is disappearing because of climate change, remind them that tides and erosion are a thing.
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>global war- I mean climate change
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>>153259461
And I'd like to remind you that ice up on mountains and Greenland is resting on landmass, but when that ice melts and join the water cycle then that will add more water to the ocean.
The volume of the Greenland ice sheet is 2,850,000 km3, the water volume of the Mediterranean Sea is 3,750,000 km3. Do you think nothing will happen to the ocean and planet as a whole if 2,85 Million km3 water was added to it?
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>muh 8 no 9 billion people
imagine believing that
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>>153259476
Imagine creating this picture and drawing the conclusion that acid rain and ozone hole was just made up. And not pressing issues that the governments around the world actually did something about
>>153259489
Climate change is real, humans are causing it and we can do a lot against it. We might not be able to reverse all of it, but some.
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>>153259461
Climate change is just the natural life cycle of the planet. However pollution accelerated the rate in which climate change happen. The Forever Chemicals in our water and food supply however is also completely preventable but greedy corporations just relocate to another state/country with less regulations so that can continue polluting the Earth for profit. Take DuPont for example, they are one of the main violators that contribute to the distribution of Forever Chemicals in our water and food supply.
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>>153259615
>And yeah, the ozone layer hole was mostly bullshit
It wasn't though. In fact recent reports on it point to it as a problem, that is no longer an issue precisely because people actually acted and caused it to improve.
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>>153259628
Prove it.
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Other countries?
Remember the "accidental" train derailment in Ohio?
Those chemicals once burned, created a black smoke plume you could swe from space and a chemical that if used in a war would constitute a fucking war crime that is specifically mentioned in the Geneva convention.
This was last year. There is no climate co trol problem there is an evil ruling class slowly poisoning us problem.
That portion of the us is POISONED forever. That is never going away and you will never hear anyone talk about the residents. Want to kniw why?
Becayse its easier for you snd yours to see it as a distant probkem if its in ond of those "lesser countries". You think its not going to affect you because you are one of them.
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>>153259320
Because we will all be miserable in a world where we are packed into mega-cities like sardines with no woods and can't even visit nature because all the wonderful ecosystems and creatures have been eliminated. Even if I didn't care about all the beauty of this planet and all the biodiversity, just try to make me and my children live in a world that's purely high-density housing and industrial agriculture
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