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>>153889008
>bratty hebe
Harley is Jewish, not Ivy, the only "religion" shes into is her devotion to nature.
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No her and Babs were 15. Her and Bab's origin are tied directly to each other because they used to be best friends, so Babs became Batwoman (everybody just called her Batgirl so she stuck with it) to try to save her friend from the abyss.
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They were pretty explicitly stated to just have begun university
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>>153893614
I'll never understand why Batman fans are so obsessed with "Horny Maneater: The Character" being a dyke
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>>153893622
Pamela always had a sympathetic edge to her(eco activism, betrayed by a lover), so her already highly popular relationship with Harley served as a convenient way to ease readers into her transition into anti-hero territory.
>>153893914
She's bisexual. And it was arguably either B:TAS or Harley Quinn #1.
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>>153893967
>She's bisexual. And it was arguably either B:TAS or Harley Quinn #1.
Really because i thought she only fuck men to make them do what she wanted them to do but this is coming from someone who only seen some episode of BTAS, that 2004 show and brave and the bold
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>>153893967
Her eco activism is trying to murder every human on earth and her powers are essentially mind raping men. Of all Batman villains she was depicted as one of the least sympathetic.
And who do they pair her with for her redemption? Of all characters? The childkiller who's whole deal is being romantically obsessed with a man.
Its so retarded
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>>153893967
The relationship with Harley was friendly in B:TAS. In the DCAU comics they were shipped together hard, but homosexuality itself wasn't taken seriously and neither was their relationship; it was all fantasy aimed at the young boys and teens who would be picking up the comic. Eventually we moved to an era where we can't just ogle female characters anymore and they took it as an opportunity to say "look at us! we're ahead of the curve! we had LGBQ characters before it was cool!"
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>>153889008
cute vs >>153894388 uggo, cute wins
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>>153889357
Barbara was a high schooler, Ivy was a college freshman. The age difference was something that bothered Jim Gordon, he considered her a bad influence.
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>>153896318
She is 16 so technically no
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>>153896498
By this point, Alan Burnett had taken over as showrunner and he wanted it to look and feel more traditional, old man that he was. They even made Batman's chin a square instead of a triangle. The show was wilder when Duane Capizzi was in charge.
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>>153898960
When the fuck did we make a new term? I thought under 16 was loli.
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>>153889008
Wasn't /co/ super big on shipping them as well at some point?
>>153889066
Ivy now isn't even a character except to be harley's carpet muncher
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>>153889008
>Remember that time Ivy was a bratty hebe?
Yes... but DC doesn't. It's a shame the 2004 series gets zero love from DC. I'm genuinely amazed we got a reprint series of the tie-in comic relatively recently.
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>>153900218
It's been a matter of debate for psychologists and sociologists, but everyone knows there is a clear difference between wanting to fuck a literal child and a bratty teenager who does have a concept and desire for sex.
Granted, you shouldn't go after either, but if the former titilates you, you deserve the noose.
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>>153901269
you assume anyone using the term read the novel in the first place, where they'd know the subtext is vastly different from this debate
it's more grooming and predatory behavior than outright pedophilia but the main character is a fucking lunatic all things considered
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Because you've heard of her, and propping up more obscure characters is like, really haaard.
Y'know, something I really respect about the Harley Quinn Show is that it NEVER has Ivy do any anti-hero stuff. The only even vaguely heroic actions she ever takes are literally only to please Harley or out of hard pragmatism. Otherwise she stays a villain through and through.
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>>153900218
https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/bering-in-mind/pedophiles-hebe philes-and-ephebophiles-oh-my-eroti c-age-orientation/
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>>153902372
neverminding the Jackson slander, the article was the fastest one I could find that explained the differences and went out of the way to explain that there is conflict in the scientific community as to whether to place ephebophiles as mentally ill (even goes a step forward and says this conflict extends to hebephiles)
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>>153902410
Fucking children is indisputably unnatural. At least in regards to humans. It's simple unproductive behavior that produces dysfunctions. Teenagers is another story because it's only until recently did we decide that's not okay because a bunch of women bitched about it. Look it up.
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>>153889066
Yup Uncle Ted would be proud of this Ivy, hell she would totally break him outta super super max prison. Hoping he could be a father figure for her. They'd make a fun duo committing ecoterrorism together, proper ecoterrorism too.
I hope someone uses this Ivy concept again.
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What's truly bizarre is how recently people have retaliated against even showing the slightest interest towards the underage when jailbait was an accepted and wide-spread concept in the early 2000s due to the uprise in sexual abuse in the mid to late 2010s.
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>Once I get Robin under my thumb they’ll be easy pickings!
>*A few dates later*
>Oh my god he’s actually really sweet what the fuck. Maybe I can just keep him around? Yeah I’ll do that. Not cause I like him or anything, I’ll just need someone to watch out for me yeah
>*More time later*
>And then when I take over Gotham me and Robin will have a beautiful wedding and rule over everything together
>*Even more time later*
>I might have to rethink a few things
Meanwhile with Robin
>Man, Ivy is so cool. I wonder if she’d like the circus?
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>Robin the only way you can stop my plans is to say you’ll be my boyfriend! MUAHAHAHAHA!!
>Oh no! Dang it I guess I have to! Darn! This is the worst! Don’t try and stop me Batman I have to do it for the sake of the city!
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>>153889008
>take the Batman villain most associated with femininity, seduction and raw sex appeal
>make her an underaged girl
literally what on earth did they mean by this
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>>153903310
very cute. Meanwhile Batman is tearing his hear out banning Robin from visiting her.
>Youre not my dad!!
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>>153896444
I like the idea but why batman mean to her? That one did almost nothing wrong
>>153896498
The 5th season could've been saved if instead of turning the show into dcau justice league lite, just add clayface 1 to the bat family instead because the second one doesn't even fucking talk anymore
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>>153905592
Here's the interview to back it up https://dcanimated.com/WF/thebatman/backstage/interviews/lopez.php
>Barbara is a 16-year-old gymnast; she’s not too tall and has straight red hair. We would put drawings next to Gordon and see which would work as his daughter. With this in mind you just let go, do a bunch of sketches and sooner or later you will hit the right one.
>For Batgirl I took a sketch that Jeff had done and put the costume on the Barbara model. We also created a homespun costume that she was to wear on her first night as a super hero, but it was taken out later on. One of the main things to keep in mind with her and Batman is the powerful silhouette. Batgirl had to be appealing at full detail and in shadow.
>Same thing with Pam, but in her case we had a 19-year-old rebel that loves plants. In the first designs for her she was a bit of a hippie, but later on I made her more grunge style, with baggie, torn pants and a ragged sweater. She doesn’t really care about her looks.
They didn't make it explicit in the episode, but the subtext was there. Pam used to be a juvie and had a juvie record, but she wasn't anymore. If she got arrested again she'd be going to real jail.
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>>153905844
It's not out of the ordinary for a high school senior to befriend a freshman and remain friends for a while. That was also the dynamic of the original Ultimate and Spectacular Peter Parker and Eddie Brock.
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>>153905956
They're just waif-like shorties. They're not going to get any taller or fill out more than this.
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>>153893967
Reminder this character change came immediately on the heels of Pamela being raped for weeks by Clayface during No Man's Land.
It's not properly an 'empowerment' arc, and the writers leaning into that logic are lacking in awareness and are incredibly tone deaf.
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>>153905456
This would actually be a fucking cool plot. How would batman deal with an ecoterroist who's obviously taking out bad people but the bad people are also key people in the function of Gothams economy who could just pay to win at trial.
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She is 19 from what I researched also because this series has barely any young characters outfi of Barbara and Dick being shown to having parents
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>>153906373
She had a soft spot for the kids, but she was still a bad guy. She an enemy to the police.
A few years later Paul Dini had her seducing guys, having them eaten alive in giant fly traps, and recording it so she could masturbate to it later.
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>>153906082
meh, i was hoping for more
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>>153907429
Honestly it’s just a bit of fun I guess. Not taking it really all that seriously, just think it’s a fun/cute idea. In the actual canon both comics and show it wouldn’t work but I’d be impressed if they pulled off an Ivy and Robin relationship and have it actually be good and make sense
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>>153889008
Best Ivy
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>>153902717
OK man, you aren't wrong, but you sound like much more of a pedophile than the average lolicon. I salute you.
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>>153906731
>few years later Paul Dini had her seducing guys, having them eaten alive in giant fly traps, and recording it so she could masturbate to it later.
Are you accurately summarizing these panels? Are we to believe Batman taught Robin about the birds and the bees by having him watch a snuff film of Ivy pleasuring herself while one of her giant plants eats one of her boyfriends?
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>>153910380
unrelated but I love that death for Joe Chill. Created the bane of the kind of violent thug he was and they took it out of him with the same violent thuggery. Better than whatever the fuck they were doing in Three Jokers.
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That shit was weird as fuck, because they aged her up specifically so they could sexualize the character. But she was mentally still a literal fucking child. And they just aired that shit on primetime Fox, and no one even cared. Just further proof that the entire anti pedo hysteria is entirely aesthetic
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>>153915873
They caught shit for that and backtracked their plans for her in season 3. She was supposed to seduce Bruce for her schemes, but they had her become Penguin’s wacky sidekick halfway through the season. Then they replaced the second actress to make Ivy a full-blown eco-terrorist for the rest of the series.
She still got to kiss a barely legal Bruce a couple of times though.
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>>153922390
lol, fairnuff. I didn't follow any of the discussion around that show while it was airing. The /tv/ threads were kinda fun to skim occasionally, just to see them tracking Penguins body count. But that quickly defolved into gay shipping, and the show went to shit, so I stopped following it week to week. I just marathoned it years after it wrapped up
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>>153924372
the mesugaki(bratty slut) has been an been a common character archetype in japan/manga/anime for decades. But the word brat has been commandeered by zoomer nuspeak to mean basically the exact same thing. "Brat" in zoomer new speak is an adjective that means sexy young girl boss. It's a term of empowerment
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>>153924644
It's popular now because of pedoshitters, but being a "brat" has been a thing in BDSM for a while.
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She was, until she wasn't.
>>153913932
It's not like the show was lacking on femme fatales either.
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had the idea to incorporate Nina Cortex's design so to make it cuter in a goth brat kinda way
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>>153889066
One of the best incarnations of this character, she deserves much more popularity.
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I'm so used to Babs being the redhead with glasses it was a bit of a shock to me.
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I cannot believe people still share low-quality stills like this when the blu-ray release has been out for years.
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>>153933327
It’s disappointing that this show has both of the main villainesses offer Barbara a chance to work together and after that doesn’t do anything interesting with either of them.
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>>153934443
I think Poison Ivy should have at least gotten the same closure that the original Clayface did. Especially since they both, got their powers from an accident, were former friends of one of the heroes, and had origin stories that were a two parter.
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Well she definitely did something pretty special to him in the tie in comic
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>>153934431
>and after that doesn’t do anything interesting with either of them.
That's honestly the show's MO. Any remotely interesting villain got written off or forgotten about while it spammed their mediocre takes on Joker and Penguin.
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Thank you it is kinda based. Here’s this cause I like writing
>“Hey Ivy!” Robin greeted with a smile, sitting down in the provided chair in front of her cell.
>“Hi Robin.” Pamela replied with a smile taking a seat on her mattress. She’d hug him but looking at him through the glass wall would have to do for now.
>They’d been having these “dates” for a good while since Batman had stopped her plan of seducing Robin to get an in on Batman and Batgirl.
>Well to be honest she stopped her plan and he showed up and took her to Arkham.
>Pamela didn’t plan on actually getting fond of Robin, it just sort of happened.
>The good guy was a good guy. Who knew?
>So pretty soon it became less about getting information and more about being as normal a couple as they could be.
>Hence these dates.
>“So how’s the outside? Pamela asked.
>“It’s ok. Batman’s been teaching my some new moves.” Robin said while miming a karate chop. “What’s in here like?”
>“Boring mostly. But I made a friend, that Harley Quinn lady. She’s nice but I don’t know what she sees in the Joker.” Pamela said with a sneer. That guy really creeped her out.
>“Ugh yeah that guy’s the worst.” Agreed Robin, “He’s not even funny!”
>“Exactly! You’d think a clown would know how to tell a decent joke!” Pamela herself joked.
>The young couple shared a laugh before Robin went, “Oh yeah! I got you something.”
>Reaching into a pouch on his utility belt he produced a DVD in a plastic case.
>“There was a nature documentary on the Amazon on the other day. I put it on this so you could watch it.” He said sheepishly. He was a little nervous yet excited about giving her a gift.
>Pamela felt herself blush as she smiled and said “Robin thank you!”
>“You’re welcome. Uh do I give this to a guard or?” Robin’s question trailed off.
>“Yeah just tell one of them and they’ll get a little set up.” She explained.
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>“Great. By the way… how’s therapy?” Robin asked under his breath.
>Part of Bruce’s “agreement” on his and Pamela’s relationship was no escape attempts, no experiments, and no more Poison Ivy.
>Which meant daily therapy to get her “issues” under control.
>“Fine. A little frustrating because my therapist agrees that my anger is justified, it’s just my methods are ‘to extreme’ and I need a ‘better outlet for my feelings.’” She explained with air quotes.
>Truth be told she still wanted to be Poison Ivy on some level. To heal nature and have Robin by her side.
>But at the same time she knew her only shot at getting out and being with him was to “get better”. So she’d get through it. For him.
>“Yeah that sounds rough,” Robin agreed, “but look I think they’ve got a point. You care A LOT about the environment, and I love how passionate you are about it I really do, but maybe Pamela can do more than Poison Ivy.”
>Pamela took a second to take in his words. “…You really think so?”
>“Of course. You’re awesome Pam.” He smiled, putting his hand on the glass.
>She really wished that glass wasn’t there so she could crush him in a hug and never let him go.
>Unfortunately they both had to wait till that day came. So the next best thing was for her to put her hand opposite his and say “Thank you.”
>Well… she could also do this. “Hey put your cheek on the glass.” She told him.
>Confused but following her instructions he did. And was caught off guard when she leaned in and gave the glass a kiss.
>Robin blushed as he saw the green lipstick mark where his check had been.
>“When I get out I’ll give you a real one.” Pamela said with a wink.
>“Uh cool.” Robin stammered, “Yeah when you get out I’ll take you on the best date! A picnic in the park.”
>“Promise?”
>“Promise.”
>The couple shared a moment before a guard came. “Sorry Romeo and Juliet, visiting time’s over.”
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>“Oh yeah I gotta get back to the Batcave anyways. Same time next week?
>“Yep. Goodnight Robin.” Pamela said blowing a kiss.
>“Goodnight Pam.” Robin said graciously accepting said kiss.
>After asking the guard if she could watch her documentary, and getting it set up, Ivy thought about what Robin said.
>*Maybe Pamela CAN do more than Poison Ivy. Only one way to find out though.* She thought, steeling herself for whatever came next
>Back at the cave and Dick had changed out of his costume he ran into Bruce at the computer.
>“How is she?” Bruce asked over his shoulder.
>“Good. She’s making progress. In her own way.” Robin stated.
>Turning around Bruce put his hand on Dick’s shoulder.
>“Look, Dick, I know I’ve made it known I’m not fond of your relationship with her. But I’m not against you. She’s a criminal-”
>“But you and Catwoman-” Robin petulantly interrupted.
>“Are different. We’re adults and you two are still basically kids.” Bruce finished.
>Dick sighed and looked down distraught.
>“But. If she really is changing for the better, and you really do like each other, there’s not much I can do except ask you to be careful.”
>“I will Bruce. I really like her and I think she just needs someone who likes her too.”
>“I hope you’re right Dick. You’ve got a big heart kid, I’m glad you’re giving her a shot.”
>“Thanks Bruce.”
>The dynamic duo shared a quick hug before Robin headed to his room.
>Getting on his bed and staring at the ceiling he thought to himself.
>*Yeah. It’s gonna be the best date ever.*
Hope you enjoyed. Any constructive criticism is very much appreciated
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I like it and with imagining it in the shows art style, it is cute how she may be slightly older but has a case of arrested development that probably led to her becoming poison ivy in the first place. And they are stabilizing each other. I mean Arkham is literally for crazy people after all. But its almost like reverse joker and harley, its funny you noted shes disgusted by Harleys relationship with him.
maybe shes never been in a serious romance before so she finds him more charming
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its just mentally ill anons bonding over fanfic it doesnt have to be 'real'
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Thank you. Yeah I made sure to try to make her seem younger than normal Ivy even if she’s still a little older than Robin. And the fact that she’s in what’s supposed to be a mental health facility so she would go to therapy.
The whole “stabilizing each other” thing is definitely something I wanted to show, I’m not into that idea of one person “fixing” another I think it’s just a bad way of viewing relationships so I wanted to avoid the idea that Dick wants to help her get better just for himself (even if he’s the reason she’s going through with it)
I actually didn’t think of the Harley and Joker angle actually. I just wanted to include a nod to their friendship and show that Ivy does care about certain people and not just plants. But I’m digging the idea, symbolism, metaphor you get the idea. Yeah Ivy probably never dated anyone (same as Dick) so they’re both figuring this out.
Also I wouldn’t pay to much attention to that other guy. Couldn’t even reply to my post like an adult and just vaguely brought it up
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>>153900218
>under 16
Dude, gross, its U13. Why do you think Anzu isn't a U149? She's 17 and therefore a false loli
I am a lolicon
I am a true lolicon
My strike zone for women lies between 7 and 12
I could go lower but never higher
I don't when consider older women the opposite sex
Good grief elementary schoolers are the best
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>>153945299
well it might not be intended by you but i couldnt help thinking of them as a parralel because both robin and harley are dating a villain, the villain does not usually see themselves as a villain. Anyway its really cute we should keep it going to see if she wants to use the Robin connection as a leverage for early release or if she actually wants to keep it going after she gets out only to be hit with a harsh reality or something.
Or maybe the visits just keep getting more intense for her personally while to Dick its just a simple crush and fascination.
Anyway I like how you think about it and wrote it detailed.
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I think what could be interesting is she does get more attached to him than he is to her. Don’t it wrong though he does like her, but maybe now she’s like “Ok new plan. Get out, start things up again, BUT… use pheromones on Robin so he can be with me forever.”
Then when she gets out she does and either can’t actually bring herself to do it because uh oh therapy worked actually. Or she does but Robin is able to convince her to stop. Basically consoling her going “It’s ok you didn’t do anything bad yet. But you gotta go back to Arkham and I’m not going to visit you because you need to get better for you. Not for this obsession with me.” Basically they put things on pause till she gets out and she’s legit reformed
I would like to think Bruce would have conflicted feelings on the whole ordeal because another villain did get reformed like Kirk Langstrom and Ethan. But she’s dating his adopted son, and she’s a bit older than him but that’s honestly the least crook thing about their relationship he can take that
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Batman gives her a version of that monologue from New Frontier
>I have a chunk of radioactive meteorite to stope the superhero from Metropolis. The one your pheromones mind controlled I might add.
>But for you? All I need is a bottle of weed killer. So be good to him. *grapples away*
>What the fuck I was just going to pick up groceries. Almost gave me damn heart attack.
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>Someone put her in the jar
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While this is a more wholesome and grounded way it could play out, I think it would be hotter if it spiraled into a more dysfunctional direction :3
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I like it, cute and well-written dialogue.
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Yea id have to go with the fucked up obsession one because I wouldnt want Ivy to actually reform and change who she is. But the opportunity and denial of it would be really funny drama. Potentially Harley intervenes to set Ivy 'straight' and remind her of her priorities. That would be high tier black comedy, but keeping the cute interactions up till then would make it work.
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Thank you I’m really glad you enjoyed it. I find I’m good with dialogue but exposition I guess that’s what I kinda get hung up on. Especially because this is like a snapshot of their story not the whole thing so I have to explain background stuff. But at the same time I don’t want to info dump you know
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>Ya see, Red, you’re problem is that you’re trying to have your cake and eat it too
>What do you mean?
>I mean that you want the bird boy but you also want to be the wrathful agent of the environment. Even though you know you can’t be with Robin if you do go all Mother Earth
>Then what should I do?
>Ya gotta pick one and stick with it. And face the consequences of either decision like a grown up
>Hmmm
>Excuse me. Harleen it’s very nice of you to offer Pamela some “professional” advice. But part of group therapy is letting everyone have a turn to speak, like Mr. Karlo since it is his turn
>Sorry Doc just helping my gal pal with boy trouble!
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>Happy release day Pam-
>*Pfffft*
>*cough* Ugh what the- *cough cough* I feel really *wheeze* bad
>Oh my god that was the poison one by mistake I am so sorry! Here I’ve got the antidote right here!!
Introducing girl failure yandere Pamela. It’s a mouthful I know
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Well hes never had a girl like him in a romantic way like this before. Maybe once or twice in petty exchanges. But the red flags are more like green ones.
Shed probably ask him why HES there early and he would simply explain being a superhero means securing the perimeter. Which she interprets as flattering of course, because hes so concerned about her safety.
I am amateur at drawing I might try sketching this interaction, it amuses me imagining it.
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Aw that’s a cute spin on it. I was thinking something like this
>I don’t get it Bruce, how does he not get she’s still evil?
>Dick’s young and this is his first relationship. Besides; kid’s not exactly an honor role student. Watch. Hey Dick! *throws batarang*
>Yeah?-OW!
>Barbra did it.
>Dude what was that for?
>Wow. I mean wow.
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I don’t think so but I like to think she’s sitting in her cell going
>Hold on hold on hold on. If Barbara is Batgirl, and she’s always hanging out with that Dick Grayson kid, who’s also the adopted son (?) of Bruce Wayne… then that must mean Robin and Batman are actually-
>Hi Red! Watcha doin?
>Damn it! There goes my train of thought!
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Lewd mesugaki Poison Ivy has such good potential. Hopefully we get another version soon.
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it would really suck if she charmed me and then did weird things to me
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>>153979820
It's not that I hate Robin so much that whenever they added new characters old ones got retired or sidelined. Like just going off episode descriptions come season 4 Batgirl gets to be plot important in 4 episodes and every time it's "Batgirl and Robin" and Yin disappears after season 2.
Maybe if the show had run for like 6 seasons I'd be fine with it but all the relationships that got built up with the old characters villains included got dumped for new and shiny things.
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Anyone got those old "The batman" ivy and babs greens?
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>>153894135
The timm era comic literally makes fun of (you) and all shippers with a panel gag.
Hell, the main episode where they're cohabitating and talking about Harley's Joker oneitis they proceed to kidnap Bruce wayne and effectively make him take them on a date day. Because the original DCAU was made by top men.
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Honestly think old DC was back when you could have your cake and eat it too. Only in old DC could you have two girls be basically fucking, but also crushing on batman and joker and bruce wayne. They literally constantly toed the line and it was honestly better that way. Now they are basically two different girls all together because the new writers are obsessed with their tragic yuri. When timm did tragic yuri way better without even trying, think that's the real kicker classic comic writers did better when they weren't overly forcing it. Also supergirl x babs is one I've never heard of til this panel so pretty fun joke
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>>153987604
I feel like you're the one trying to have your cake and eat it too. You criticize the pairing while insisting the DCAU made it good.
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here's the full thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH8aXw9Qhzk
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Sucks that TTG is 5% interesting stuff like this, and 95% absolute dogshit.
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Cheesecake is cheesecake, yurifags just read too much into it. Cute girls are allowed to do cute things and the DCAU was forged in the autism of pinup artists like Timm and Glynes.
Batman and Harley Quinn has this same continuity Harley jump nightwings bones for /ss/ roleplay and also talk Ivy down through the power of cuteness. It's all (you), the male adolescent viewer, serving. Like peeping in on an all girl's sleepover.
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I literally just said he did both, I'm not the one criticizing it other than them being different characters now and let's not pretend they aren't. They push harley as just a deadpool esque silly toonforce anti hero now and ivy as just a misunderstood eco terrorist at least when she's with harley
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Was a different time I guess
>>153989261
Really true but problem is yurifags control the industry now. Look at how they've tried so hard to make ivy x harley a peak dc ship including trying to make them both heroes
That is true why I said they had their cake and ate it, they never cared much about who was genuinely with who. At some points felt they were shipping batman and harley but then as said they pushed her and nightwing and her and ivy. So really harley at one point was the perfect "bi" girl because she really just jumped the bones of whoever was kind to her which was kind of the point. She has no defense mechanism and just goes for whoever is coolest at any time
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It was kind of funny how they kept bringing the sweater back in contrived ways.
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>>153983027
I dont like hiw Harley isnopenly smug and mocking me while rubbing her face all into those delicious green moisturized honkers of Pammy.
She knows...she knows i want it but never have it. Shes a cruel clown...
Godni want Pammy...
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Firefly looked cool you gotta admit
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>>153998722
They had her in the new Lego Batman game, but she was underwhelming. She's basically the same before becoming Poison Ivy. She doesn't even have a transformation. She gets hit by chemicals, runs away, and then she switches costumes. They probably cut some more gameplay or something because it felt abrupt.
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>>154005957
Using this for Girl Failure Yandere Pamela
>So Robin how about we go back to my place, relax… and I can tell you alll about this species of tree I’m researching!
>…Ok!
Admittedly not very yandere but very girl failure for my version of Ivy
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I actually thought the way they handled Two-Face's origin was great. I just thought the way they did Ivy's was rather lazy in comparison. Freeze felt undercooked. The second half of the game's story felt rushed compared to the first.
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The whole LEGO game seems to mostly follow the Nolan continuity with aspects of the Burton and Schumacher films transplanted in, which is about the main reason Two-Face got more attention than the other villains.
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According to Greek mythology, Hercules (Herakles) married Hebe, the goddess of youth and the daughter of Zeus and Hera, after he died on earth, achieved godhood, and ascended to Mount Olympus. Their marriage served as a symbol of peace between Hercules and Hera—who had plagued him with trials throughout his mortal life. The couple had two twin sons, Alexiares and Anicetus, and spent eternity guarding the gates of Olympus.
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Thanks for the etymology and mythology lesson. Also the show technically had a Zeus fight a hebe in one of the episodes.
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The character was conceived as massively horny.
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She needs to be Bat-corrected
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