>>154102809
Because Marvel doesn’t care because they know Disney will bail them out no matter what.

>>154102809
... That doesn't make any fucking sense. Did May just FORGET that she gave birth?

>>154102809
Soap opera-tier writing. That's what capeshit is, really.

File: spider-man shoot self.jpg (94.6 KB)

>>154102809
They'll do ANYTHING but let Peter and MJ be a couple again. Something that lasted for decades has no place in the House of Ideas where things are awkwardly retconned in.

It's just intentionally insane. What's next? Uncle Pen's secret pet Pomeranian?

>>154102809
So who's the other guy?

File: RCO017_1466357391.jpg (594.2 KB)

>>154103367
Are you retarded?
>>154103375
Always has been.

>>154102809
>They can't honestly think this is a good idea for the big milestone.
>Have no fear, we've got stories for years!

>>154103968
I don't even recognize what comic you posted

Don't worry, he can still be a tulpa created by Mephisto.

>>154102809
They have had the same writing team for decades, a writer team that believes that youth is more central to Spider-Man than responsibility, they fundamentally misunderstand this character and they cannot write the youth they claim is so crucial because they are aged Gen X'ers. They are unable to let go but unable to change or read the fucking room. Their ego is too enmeshed in the thing now, they won't admit the obvious fucking mistake for what it is, and so we just have to wait for them to retire or die until we get actual direction back in 616 again.
Until then, telenovellas. Not even original plots, but aping Mayday Parkers origins and doing another secret relative plot. DC please please please brutally murder my favourite Superhero's mainline, I need you Prime.

>>154105469
Or a robot created by Chameleon

>>154103966
The black man is Aunt May’s current boyfriend who is living and fucking with.
>May loves B. B. C.

>>154105678
He also doesn't like Peter, will no doubt take to the NEW GUY like fly to honey and be a voice on Mays shoulder saying sure is better than that dead-beat gone away for months Peter!
They are so predictable, just always bet on the stupidest and most aggravating thing and you're always right.

I defy you to name a reason Peter hasn't just told Aunt May yet. This should be the real debate for Peter, to explain six months absence in space (our relatable street hero to the youth everyone) and not have that just swept under a rug by Kelly who should just be doing GOTG. We can't even cite her heart anymore because she's aging backwards to ensure OMD lasts forever, all she does is faint like a true telenovela grandma.

>>154105536
>and they cannot write the youth they claim is so crucial because they are aged Gen X'ers.
Don't drag me into this, I fucking hate OMD

>>154103968
>Always has been.
Maybe so, but there used to be high concepts and bombast to balance it out. Now it's unfiltered soap operas.

>>154105755
You know the sad part is May has found out he was Spider-man numerous times and it was actually really good.

>>154105978
Don't blame you aged brother, so long as you aren't trying to write hip dialogue for the kids by citing Bill and fucking Ted.

Had the right editorial regime been in place, to just let him age naturally and let a clearly family orientated character and story grow properly, they ironically would have a far greater locus of reference to speak for Peter.
As it is, just give Peter a skate-board and we have a full Buscemi.

>>154105536
>a writer team that believes that youth is more central to Spider-Man than responsibility
Don't they already have that nigga Miles for that?

>>154106027
And May has had a brilliant death that should have lasted, she had her time. She made her impact. Her best stories had been told. What has she been since then other than a writers tool from the anti-creatives who just want to write the thing they were reading in childhood? And rather than start their own ongoing which would have to depend on its own merits, just completely hijack the original run and nail it down to a dead and rotted status quo complete with Faustian bargains and wonder why ASM has such a dismal reputation to write for.

We have the responsibility comic, where nobody takes responsibility or consequences seriously, nothing can't be undone except the most obvious thing near everyone has been asking for.

>>154106130
The superfluous inclusion of other Spiders to the point of oversaturation in 616 is only making the Youth argument look even more retarded. And it was always retarded. Goddamn Peter Pan over Peter Parker.

>>154106146
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Miles gets married earlier than Peter

>>154106200
If he does, he unironically will be the ascendant Superior Spider-Man and I will fucking kneel to your OC Bendis.

>>154106263
fuck off

>>154106438
I find Miles inoffensive at best and irritating most of the time, but if the editorial cabal for some reason lets at least one Spider get away from them to lead by example then so be it.
That said Miles already did a Mephisto deal, so he's proven no better. God we need Mayday to kill old scratch already, Spider-Office can't be trusted with this diabolus ex machina enabling them.

>>154106494
I haven't kept up with Miles' story (I haven't kept up with Peter's either to be fair, I only know that Paul's dead and Peter and MJ 'reconciled' recently), what was the deal about?

>>154106560
>what was the deal about?
Kamala Khan of course

File: aunt may lost a child.jpg (660.6 KB)

>>154105376
>i don't know it so it doesn't count
You're pathetic. I bet you won't know the panel this story was fleshing out either, fuckhead.
>>154105984
Nah, it was always this unfiltered. Peter's greatest enemy is his best friend's dad.

>>154106567
Let me guess, he made a deal to bring her back?

>>154106578
yep

>>154105469
Paul should be revealed to be that too, once the editorial stops sucking him off.

File: thanks for the rescue chump here's some dirt in your eye.jpg (376.3 KB)

>>154106560
Ms Marvel died and got undied by letting someone else die. And no, there are no consequences beyond Miles 'quitting' which is a nothing to a Spider.
What the fuck is Mephisto's powerlevel again and why does he need mortals permission to use such power over life and death? What are the rules for him, and who set them? The OAA?

And that reconciliation was fireman grade washing apologetics. They can't address anything actually said or done in the Wells run so we just get an allusion to 'thrashing', sorry without specifics and moving on. It makes one wonder why even bother with comic books if this is the drama resolution they give?

>>154106657
>once the editorial stops sucking him off.
The editorial would rather sacrifice their own firstborn than make Paul out to be a villain

>>154106697
Realistically how can this shit be fixed without a retcon

>>154106657
I fully believe Paul will be given the Marcus treatment the moment those responsible for his creation and continued involvement leave office. Too infamous and too many young creative people out for his scalp, the moment Lowe and the like are gone the hatchet will fall. He'll be revealed if not as a Supernatural empowered agent, to just be a stereotypical incel type who emotionally manipulated an isolated soul in a abusive setting for years, and those kids worked as supernatural chains that made MJ live her worst nightmare.
To become her mother and sister.

>>154106755
At present? It won't be because >>154106731
Too much ego and people responsible. They are STILL carrying water for this abortion of an arc, even though it's caused as much reputation damage if not moreso than the worst excesses of the Clone Saga. They did a Avengers #200 sequel, they realize how many elements are there and are desperately trying NOT to be the office that did a Avengers #200 sequel. Hence Paul glazing even in pointless death that THEY advertise.
They want us to just move on and pretend Wells didn't happen. Which is a terrible thing to do in an ongoing, if you hit a shit run you should try use it as fertilizer for the next writer the fix, but they can't do that without addressing the raping element in the room.

In short anon. We will get a resolution. It will be arriving sometime in the next decade when the old heads are finally beheaded.

>>154106758
Yeah, but it'll take years (probably a decade) before anything like that happens.

>>154106828
I see it as the canary in the coal mine, the moment Paul is finally properly addressed we know the old regime is dead. That or just OMD being retconned.
616 is the most bizarre odd thing out in the whole franchise, it's solely because of the old boys club and self-selection it's lasted this long. Except now DC is proving you can with the right run hit lightning, and Marvel is still pounding sand.

>>154106755
Make Paul an avatar of Mephisto and have the reason why MJ was such a bitch toward Peter at the beginning of Wells' run is because of a secret spell or miasma that makes most people see Paul in a better light than he actually is and Peter in a worse light than he actually is

File: Paul justifying abandoning kids before MJ objects.jpg (492.9 KB)

>>154106923
These panels are so fucking bizarre to me.
And look at how the world once the 'kids' is all sunny and idyllic? This is a omnicide world where nothing lives, what the fuck are kids doing walking around? Why doesn't she question that? Why does MJ never question Paul openly weighing leaving them to die?

There's a perfect story of manipulation, gaslighting, self-loathing and abuse here. It's not a nice one but it's compelling, but Spoffice won't do it because we like Paul.

>>154106982
>we like Paul
Didn't Brevoort or some other fuck claim that there was totally a large Paul fanbase out there and they were just being drowned out by the loud minority?

>>154107069
Brevoort also said that MJ and Paul are the most sexually active marvel couple. He's a troll whose not actually in charge of Spider-Man anymore, but the self-selection of BND folk mean it doesn't matter.
They know Paul was loathed, and they know the Paulheads was entirely ironic shitposting on par with Morbiusposting. They just didn't know what the fuck Dead Language was going to do because Lowe doesn't read or appreciate the impact of goddamn scripts.

>>154106050
>as you aren't trying to write hip dialogue for the kids by citing Bill and fucking Ted.
The entire point of B&T3 was that they're behind the times

>>154107163
Well B&T3 has much greater self-awareness than Spoffice, which is either going to do a It's a Wonderful Life thing for 1000 or a secret relatives plot... AGAIN. It's like Sisyphus but it's a big dungball we're expected to crowdfund getting to the top.
Nah, imma keep my money.

>>154106755
>>154106923
>Current MJ a clone while the real MJ's out there a la TAS
>MJ was being manipulated by magic
>Making MJ genuinely reflect (not the half-assed bullshit in Venom 258) on what she did; hell, if you want to keep the editorial happy (I wouldn't see why you would) make it where MJ starts thinking she doesn't deserve Peter and distances herself from him for like two runs
In all likelihood it'll be swept under the rug. They kind of already did that with Venom 258, to be honest.

>>154106577
I dislike everything about this administration but if the draft is reinstated and this generation of solipsists is sent to fertilize another nation's soil maybe there will be some good to come of it

>>154107337
>MJ starts thinking she doesn't deserve Peter and distances herself from him for like two runs
You could absolutely do that from page one of her return in Wells.
One of the biggest fucking things missing (along with basic characterization) was her inner monologue. The entirety of the Wells run. it is left to the audiences interpretation, WHAT IS THIS WOMAN THINKING? it's part of the mystery box, and the mystery box is fucking empty because Wells was writing badly and rushed, and so you end up with Dead Language.
Just have her in denial about how nothing about these unaging children whose names keep changing and refuse to be schooled or socialize are wrong, that her relationship with Paul is abusive and wrong, and that her decision to leave Peter under false pretenses that Paul knew about makes her think herself underserving and unloveable. Boom, character drama. Character if not saved then at least salvageable for a big airport departure reconciliation down the line straight from JMS.
But they won't. Because Kelly and his ilk don't care for MJ, they don't want to treat the Wells arc for the immense cancer it was, they just want to throw it under a carpet and move on and expect the audience they teased and baited to move along happily with them.
And DC will continue to eat their market share.

>>154106697
>>154106755
Peter has forgiven Doc Ock, Venom, and Norman Osborn, all of whom are much worse people than MJ. Why exactly does this need a retcon? Every time people elaborate it’s always “I personally would not tolerate this”. But you aren’t a superhero. No one cares.

>>154107337
>In all likelihood it'll be swept under the rug.
To be blunt I honestly think this is the best way to handle things. The more they try to "fix" things the more they just complicate and break shit. Just do what Spencer was doing and let them be a couple and we can all pretend this shit didn't happen.

>>154107447
Spidey Office has been running on pure spite for decades now, and as long as sales are doing decent then they won't care

>>154107477
I think it's more for MJ's sake than Peter's, I personally don't have any issues with him being quick to forgive

File: thrashing around lmao.jpg (3.2 MB)

>>154107477
Forgiven but not dated, let alone have a ring ready for a proposal.
Saint Peter shenanigans aside (he should never fucking trust nor goddamn hug Norman I don't care if you strap him to a gattling gun of sin eaters, and Ock got off way too scot free for his early rapey and memory shredding shenanigans in Superior), the relationship needs a lot of work to continue to work. Or just Spencer sweep it. It's lazy but so is much of comic book writing.

>>154103326
Not buying this argument until they quit renting comics in digital spaces. No ordo ab chao shit.

>>154107376
What does that have to do with anything I posted? Unless you thought you were talking about me? In which case, I'm too old for the draft kek.

>>154107551
Decent but never growing. Possibly the most popular Superhero in the world and they can manage top ten sales reliably. Kept afloat by a speculators market and variety covers like we're in the goddamn 90's again. This is what they call an achievement. A managed decline just gradual enough to avoid getting smote by the mouse.
Such ambition from Spoffice, bravo Lowe.

>>154107376
>this generation of solipsists is sent to fertilize another nation's soil maybe there will be some good to come of it
The maximum age to get drafted has been raised so if the recrooters started with the oldest then maybe you'd have a point here.

>>154107645
>>154107551
Outsold by Ultimate.

>>154107594
For her character's sake, I hope they'll actually explain it rather than sweep it.

>>154106130
miles will always be a ripoff so it doesn't matter.

>>154107744
Again, they don't care as long as sales for ASM are decent

>>154107745
This shit is going to be an albatross around her neck until it's addressed, but Spoffice would rather her wear it than them and their beloved Paul.

>>154107744
Half the fun of Ultimate was seeing BND creatives lose their fucking mind.
You mean you can actually just turn this one spigot and print sales?

>>154107799
That reminds me, did MJ even care that much about the kids disappearing?

File: GWEN WAS A SAINT.jpg (16.0 KB)

MUH GWEN
MUH GWEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>154102809
Who the fuck is this guy?

>>154107876
They couldn't even keep the kids names straight and you wanted catharsis for fairy-dust children? Her world reeling as everything she thought was wrong, and possible self-examination about how else she might have been manipulated? Like waking up from a long half-remembered dream where you had a relationship and it's all over and never existed?
She had that one sadgurl image in group therapy with Paul, then she put on the Jackpot outfit and started quipping because we are Spoffice and we don't know how to write a one to one origins anymore.

Better question is why a supposedly atoning Paul would let his distraught girlfriend wear the RNG kill me device, as opposed to him? They never discuss that? He never say it's my burden to bear?

>>154107772
>decent
decent is a relative term. It sells "decent" because most of their books sell like crap.

>>154107954
How did Spider-Versity and the BND miniseries Slott wanted as a ongoing go?

>>154107895
the villain of the upcoming ASM 1000. “You stole my life. I’m their real son” blah blah blah

File: IMG_0350.jpg (2.2 MB)

>>154107968
Spider-Versity is based and has hot babes.

File: Spectacular Spider-Man - Brand New Day 001 00009.jpg (3.5 MB)

>>154107968
Slott's BND makes Mephisto more relevant to spider larpers than Peter Parker if anything.

>>154108000
Norman step away from the children.

>>154108000
they all need to be incinerated

>>154108000
Norman is so fucking cool

>>154107954
Which means they can still justify it. "See? All the other comics are selling like shit, but ASM's still doing fine, so we must be doing something right."

The Marvel strategy for Spiderman has appeared to be 'write absolutely retarded bullshit that will annoy people' for years now. There's no other explanation except that they believe that writing their series as ragebait will somehow result in more sales.

I personally find it hard to believe anyone buys comics that are terrible. But you have to assume that they have numbers to back their strategy up and they aren't just throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars for no reason.

>>154102809
TOTAL KKKUESADA DEATH!

>>154107942
>They couldn't even keep the kids names straight
Kek, I forgot about this, but I shouldn't be surprised considering they also 'forgot' the fact that Paul knew about the time difference between his universe and 616.

>>154108097
The comics are an IP and idea farm for Disney, it's not exactly a loss leader but they aren't kept on for the profits expecting an Absolute series return.
Problem is the House of Ideas has got fucking nothing, and has had nothing for a while now. Hence the telenovella shit that could never pass the sniff test to the MCU without a massive rewrite.

>>154108057
He’s after Jessica Drew

>>154107119
It's honestly kind of impressive that Lowe is running the Spider-Man office when he is the worst editor at Marvel. How did he pull it off?

>>154108097
Marvel and Disney execs can be retards too, anon.

>>154108108
>we forgot one of the key reasons fans have been seeing and treating Paul as some sort of rape by omission creep for years
>cement this fact by having MJ's canon reason for leaving being she thought Peter was dead, never mind how even that doesn't explain how fucking zombified her behavior was on return to her family and friends
They really are in some sort of bubble, the Marcus popping is going to be wild and is the only thing to look forward to, too bad it's at least a decade away.

>>154108021
I don't get why THIS is the era they wanted to go back to when it's barely noticeably different from the current status quo. Like if they wanted to do PRE OMD as a way to shut people up it would make sense.

>>154108138
Connections and sycophancy. It's what has ran the office for decades.
Are you on board with BND and OMD? Believe Spider-Man is about Youth and not responsibility? Come on in.
Want longevity? Cathartic drama? A story viewed as something more than a toybox to be reset? Keep away, boo and hiss.

>>154108158
It's literally just title synergy for the new movie. There's no actual demand for it.

>>154102809
please god please be another clone instead of whatever this looks like.

>>154108148
Way I see it, the moment the editorial actually calls out Paul and addresses MJ's mischaracterization is the moment OMD genuinely begins to unravel

File: 1767739598505764.jpg (3.9 MB)

>>154108285
Call out Norman too. He visited Paul's funeral.

>>154108285
As the mischaracterization of MJ is a direct result of OMD's status quo needing to keep, to write her in character is the absolute route of the youth crowd.

Spider-Man #1050: Aunt May's older sister Annie actually faked her death, and she is the new old boss of New York crime. Also she's a hapkido expert and can suck the life out of others on contact.

>>154108373
*rout

>>154108378
We could have a gag where Peter picks out his old year book and realises just how many of his school chums have become Supers, Villains or killed off. I swear a third of his cohort have been swallowed into Capeshit because BND cannot for the life of them leave that era be.

>>154108378
Spider-Man #1500: Uncle Ben is actually still alive but is now a genocidal maniac.

>>154108148
Does anyone outside of the Spidey Office actually like Paul?

>>154108631
Shitposters. He's a shitposters dream.
Other than that, he has as many unironic fans as the Morbius movie did.

>>154108631
Christians could have him since he had a christian funeral instead of a secular jew one.

>>154102809
>I just want to know why? Why are Marvel like this?

Yeah, it's crazy the editors let "generic matches" get past them.

>>154108726
>>154108734
I meant within Marvel Comics, sorry.

File: Chicken Korma.jpg (234.7 KB)

>>154108734
He didn't even believe in god.
He was a vegan who made chicken korma.
To Paul, our most confusing rapist.

>>154108780
DC rightfully treated him like a creep, DC generally has been on a upswing since DiDio fucked off forever. The Marvel artists I swear are in a group chat talking about how much they have wanted him dead, half the loathing comes from drawing the worlds most punchable numale face.
It's just Lowe, Wells and the usual suspects being divorced from consequence.

>>154106438
Miles has more than earned it

>>154108896
And what? Have a baby with Tiana? A tarantula hawk is a kind of wasp, so it isn't suitable for a multi-level nepo baby's hero name.

>>154108819
It's genuinely just pure spite and entitlement on the editorial's part that's keeping Paul from being ripped to shreds.

>>154109015
They don't want to have written Avengers #200, hence we're all apparently reading it wrong.
Problem is.
They absolute rewrote Avengers #200.

>>154108726
I don't think even cuckfags or NTRfags like him that much, I've seen more art of Paul getting cucked than him doing the cucking

>>154109238
Who would want to self-insert as him? A sex scene with him on panel would make chastity a solid choice.

>>154102809
Why does this bother you? How is this offensive?

>>154108164
I've been burnt out over Marvel comics (Spiderman especially) for a while now, what's the point in trying to follow the story if nothing's gonna change?

>>154109460
Peter’s life is regularly changing though, are you stupid?

>>154109460
It would be one thing to have an Evergreen defined Spider-Man where you play with the character in a locked era or setting. The problem is we have had the SAME fucking wheelhouse troupe of writers for two fucking decades. There is nothing left for them to say, and what they had needed to be adapted with a hell of a lot of repair to make it the big screen. Compare the differences of what made BND to the set-up to the coming movie.

File: paul.mp4 (858.2 KB)

>>154107119
>the Paulheads was entirely ironic shitposting on par with Morbiusposting
I mean it's not like we ever attempted any subtlety or finesse

>>154107892
Why couldn't Nancy Marchand have been May

>>154108819
>DC rightfully treated him like a creep
He was THIS close to nailing Peeg

>>154109628
Because she was a Saint.
;-;

>>154109665
One digit away Paul, alas Mephisto's bargain doesn't stretch to DC.

File: 1778074017580512.jpg (1.7 MB)

>>154109687
>next collab with DC would feature Wally West cheering up Peter Parker after defeating Mephisto together

>>154109769
Wally gives me hope, the DiDio situation is pretty close to what we have here, except the cancer has spread to multiple peoples shared philosophy.
Good news is the BND mandate failed, ain't nobody young wanting to see more divorced man energy the run. Just going to be a long wait until they fuck off.

>>154109804
What happened with DC under this DiDio guy?