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How long should basic slave training period last and what skills should they be taught?

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As you are heading through the slave market, you see a male slave (picrel), whom, upon inspecting, you realize is a guy you were best friends in back in elementary school before his family moved away. When, out of curiosity, you ask for him to be untied so you can inspect him, he makes a blind (folded) dash, shoving you aside, leading to you falling down, and him trying to run for it. Of course, he is immediately recaptured when he trips and falls, yet the slave seller, as he helps you up, immediately promises the slave will be severely punished (he says as he motions towards the horse stalls down street).
What do you do?

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>>11483889
Extremely basic slave training should last two weeks and include domestic service, obedience training, and any sexual use her trainer personally enjoys.

Get a fresh slave used to the fact that she isn't human anymore, and will need to do as she's told with her best forced smile. Service will very often include cleaning a human's home, the most basic duty she's expected to do. So the baseline of "you will mop my floors when I tell you to, wearing what I tell you to, with no resistance to being ordered to drop to your knees to suck cock should that be what I desire" is something that any slave going through some institutional training program is going to need to be broken into before anything else can be built ontop of her.

At a basic level any slave should understand "I don't exist for myself, I exist for who I belong to.". Once they understand that you can move on to teaching them whatever skills would suit your life the best.

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I think my pet might be a secret genius, I didn't even know she can write.

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>>11483912
Mine gave me some "this slave can be used for a hour in any way you desire, please redeem with it's Master" slips once.

Was a adorable little art project to surprise me with, even if she gets all up in her head being hypercritical about it. I know she wishes she could forget to write when she was asking me if I thought that the way she wrote the letters was "appropriately servile enough, Master?". Not the words she used, she was trying to make the way she scrawled the letters imply submission.

Still got many headpats for being such a good slave, taking initiative to entertain me like that.

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Any good games out there that deal with the theme of slavery? What have you been playing, and what do you recommend?

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>>11483987
>Strive 4 Power
>Free Cities

the two Classics, some games on F95zone have slavery but only as Bad end type side content

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>>11483987
Lot of rpgmaker games have some kind of slavery story routes or playable bad ends.

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>My pet: Day 1 VS Day 200
Why do some Masters allow their slaves to starve? Downright cruel, I swear. Can't even use them as a comfy pillow that way, it'd be like sleeping on a bag of bones.

>>11483110
>glasses are a no no, too tempting to remove or try to peek around
It's more that they'r socially acceptable to do out in public, especially if there are medical looking eye patches underneath. That way Master can lead me wherever, even order for me in cafes, and nobody would think anything of it

>>>11483118
>ecapeplay
even slaves probably won't risk eating during corner time, because it was established that Master wanted me to struggle when bound, and because the food was right in front of me as the "reward", there was at least justification.
The way you'd want to test obedience during cornertime, is to simulate leaving us there, with water running/tricking us into thinking Master's estate is flooding

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Here’s a scenario I’ve been thinking for a while:
Young hero with some recently gained knighthood is gifted a dark elf slave by a noble. He is known to be against slavery and he and many of the servants working at his fort were in fact slaves to dark elves once, so this obviously seen as in bad taste. However, before he can refuse, he realizes that the “helpless elf slave” is in fact one of the dark elf slavers that tormented him and his servants. Especially in the… sexual way. Chances are that after they escaped, she was demoted to an assassin. It becomes pretty clear really quickly that knife-eared sadist doesn’t recognize her old plaything now that he grew up. He pretends to begrudgingly accept the noble’s gift, but makes sure to inform all the old victims of the assassin who is coming there…
From this point onwards, his servants are to pretend to know nothing about who she is and even pretend he mistreats them to make her think they’ll be easy to trick into helping with his assassination… and make sure that every time she’ll fail hilariously, tortured, fucked and humiliated every bit as bad as she used to treat them and then some, then have her memories removed and the process will repeat until everyone has had their fun after which point he’ll give the old sadist two options:
>Go assassinate the asshole noble who hired her.
>Return all her memories at the same time, which will completely destroy her mentally
…Of course the two options are fake, if she refuses, the cycle restarts. If she doesn’t once the job is done he’ll return her memories anyway.

>>11483886
uhhhh sauce

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>>11485502
>That way Master can lead me wherever, even order for me in cafes, and nobody would think anything of it
That's why I like the contacts. Depending on the type, I don't even need to hide her eyes under sunglasses. I have a pair that are opaque white, with a realistic iris and pupil; the pair set me back almost $600. Then there are all black ones that are passible under most sunglasses, but give her a tiny bit of a doll look without. Then there are all white ones, which I'm not a fan of, but some like for the soulless slave aesthetic.
It's ridiculous how quickly it puts slaves into subspace.

>>11485743
It's because of the dependence it forces into us by having a freedom removed after taking it for granted for so long, like with having our arms folded behind our back in a butterfly press, or a collar just tight enough to feel when breathing

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>>11485757
>dependence it forces into us
Funny you mention a collar. Like a blindfold, it's a constant tactile reminder they can always feel that is the cause of their loss of freedom. This is a little different, it's like turning off a switch in their minds. There's no outside feeling to why they suddenly can't see. Their eyes open super wide, as if in a dark room.
A leash is nice for more private play, or someplace where it's a bit acceptable, but in normal public settings, there's nothing giving the game away, except maybe the cat ears.
It's just so delicious how vulnerable they become. A tiny touch is enough to make them jump, since they can't anticipate.

>>11485762
>how vulnerable they become, a tiny touch.
Yeah, i love the idea of walking blindfolded and bound, and having my already red butt spanked for "not emphasising enough of a hip sway" or something enough to make me feel fear even in empty rooms.
You can maybe trail the leash through the sleeve and into a glove, but that's a little convoluted
Have you ever tried mixing click training with your slaves blackout lenses?

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I want to punish a bratty slave!

>>11485854
How would you react to "the cookie trick" my friend does?
Basically, if she's really hungry as a slave, then she takes a plate full of snacks like 4-5 cookies out to her owner, kneels in front of them offering the plate.
For Masters she puts their spare hand on her throat whilst doing it, and for Mistreses she kisses them as "male tops are to be feared, girl tops are to be worshipped" (no idea how true that is, but she has waay more experience than me in living this fantasy so i take her word for it)
Sometimes it works, and she gets fed, sometimes she just has to put the leftovers away, or in the trash, but she never really gets punished for it

>>11485815
>click training with your slaves blackout lenses
Nekos are terrible at click training, they're just too skittish, especially when they can't see.
She learned a new trick on her own. I hugged her when she was naked, while i was wearing a robe, and she tied herself against me with her hands and the knot of my sash behind her.

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Could slavery be realistically implemented in any way?

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>>11486321
Depends on where and how far you want to go.

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Living close to a high class slave school would be entertaining.

>>11486321
Unless a complete societal breakdown happens no. Closest you could have gotten was a very one sided Kafala contract. Most Arab states have passed laws to limit that sort of thing though. Plus there is the whole thing of being rich enough to live there and be able to get contract like that approved.

>>11486262
>Nekos
I still want one. I even left the trash can open for a stray cat girl, and all I got was a fat raccoon.

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>>11487199
>fat raccoon
You say that like it's a bad thing, sounds like a jackpot to me. Little cushioning never hurt anyone.

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>>11487324
They're not very afectionate, and they make huge messes. A neko can be a little chaos goblin, but they're very huggy, especially when its lights out time.

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>>11486321
Jeanne would make such a great slave.

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>>11487484
True, house cats are better. Except on their lazy days, when they just go to sleep when they're supposed to be making din...ner.... God dammit, she did it again!

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>I like my neko slave, even though she frustrates me sometimes
>she gets especially nervous when she knows she hasn't been of perfect service, and a big rainstorm rolls through
>I am predictable in terms of the misery I like to inflict on her, I suppose
>the one today is still cold, I'll be waiting until the warmest part of the day
>I want to maximize the time she can spend doing nude push ups in the mud, before her punishment wanders into execution territory
>this chaotic little thing is mine for life, she won't ever be declared unfit for further service

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>>11487647
Mud? Sounds messy and uncool. On a rainy day like that I'd rather just take a warm bath with my pet and cuddle afterwards.

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>>11487657
she still gets plenty of cuddles, don't worry. she might be a slave and not a pet but she's not that dehumanized, it's especially important that you give her a lot of affection after she's endured such torture in Master's name.

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O-oh, guess my pet is in heat again. Welp, guess I won't sleep for a few nights.

>>11483891
source? yandex and saucenao got nothing.

>>11487812
I think I just downloaded that from Gelbooru, so no idea. The tags might mention the artist.

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Thoughts on slaver breeding?
Specifically between slaves, breed on master's orders

>>11487812
>>11487820
It's got a pixiv filename, you can use that to get to the posting and find the artist.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120501925

>>11483893
Can I have a source for this image. I have already tried reverse image search.

>1) How would you get adjusted to a new Master, or your life as a slave?
I’d be pretty defiant at first until my master dealt with that. I’d imagine with enough whipping and electro torture I’d become pretty submissive eventually.

>2) Would your Master assign the duty of training you to another trusted slave, training you himself, or train you with another slave?

Either himself or another slave. I would definitely be on the bottom rung in any kind of hierarchy.

>3) If trained in a group or as a pair, who is the other slave? Your friend, your enemy, your lover, etc.

Probably a random stranger. No time to even get to know them before we’re chained together and sharing a ball gag. Pretty hot to be forced into that with a complete stranger.

>4) What training will you be put through?
I’m extremely masochistic so I’d be a torture doll, trained to take incredible amounts of pain for the entertainment of master and his friends.

>>11488361
497392
instantly recognized it was in my collection

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>>11487657
Now that the weather is nice, I can take my pet for longer walks. she does love these places, even if she has absolutely no idea what they look like. Everything she needs to see is at home.

>>11488497
Welp that sure escalated. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

>>11488167
>Slaver breeding
i've said most of this before so i hope people aren't too mad st me recycling posts but
>Maste can castrate male slaves, and sterilise female slaves on whim
Slave sex is allowed but on condition of
>1) Masters permission is needed
>2) Master must be present and enjoying the show
>3) both slaves are enthusiastically thanking Master throughout
Then the next few are optional
>4) only the male slave is allowed to cum, Master is too possessive, even of lesser slaves not worthy of being in his harem. Our only hope is vibe torture, forced les show for Master, or being somehow chosen by Master
>5) Only doggy is allowed to reflect our beast like nature compared to Master

Then giving and raising your own child into slavery is horrific, but for the degenerate larp
>be blindfolded on birth, have to kneel after and present the baby to Master
>kept blindfolded and separated except to feed them until the last of Masters litter is borne
>no idea which babies are which, this is done intentionally to avoid diminishing Masters ownership

One last thing is slave breeding and different life expectencies is great no matter which way round, 3rd gen slave of original Master, or slave kept by Master now serving His great grandchildren

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Oh, get back here, you dumb pet! What kind of a cat is afraid of a tiny rubber mouse? I thought you would play with it.

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>>11489428
My neko slave is afraid of everything, she must know that I find it cute since there's no way she hasn't seen like, a squirrel before. It's all over the 24/7 calming cat TV livestream I leave on for her when I need to leave her alone for 20 minutes. she probably just does that to try and entertain me on walkies, but nekos are so weird, you never know.

Mine sure does love the cat toys I occasionally get her though. Those little felt mice on a string are the best. Standing over her while she tries to bat it around with just a beaming smile on her face.

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>>11489437
Yyyeah, I'm 99,9% sure that mine is just a pampered scaredy-cat. Literally.
Squirrel? Hide behind Master's back.
Mouse? Hide behind Master's back.
Dog? Yelp and hide behind Master's back.

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>>11489442
I mean mine gets excited and chases after birds. She knows I like that. Everything else is like yours, though...

Maybe it'd be better for her to be blindfolded more often. Can't have a rabbit run out infront of us, only for her to scream and basically glue herself to my back, if she can't see it and is already glued to me.

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>>11489445
Birds? Well, I guess my pet likes roasted duck.

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>Irredeemable bitch treats our kind meal offer she very much doesn't deserve like this
>After a hard day of trying to discipline her to boot
Wut do?

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>>11489666
Bitchsuit, small cage, and a bowl of the worst slop conceivable, plus a little pentothal so she doesn't get any ideas of starving herself. After a few days she'll probably have finished the first bowl, wait another day or so and give her another bowl of the same stuff. She'll probably have a similar initial reaction to this one, the trick is to keep this up until her first reaction is to dig in, then she'll know what happens if she refuses a meal.

Or just do what they do in the continuation of your webm (which you should post anyway)

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>>11489666
>>11489695
Just regular slave gruel is really good now. Cheap, dense, all of the nutrients a slave needs to keep on existing. Similar innovations have been made in "disposal gruel".

There are variants that are laced with some spicy stuff, but the rations I've used is just the standard formulation. A single bowl a day will starve her eventually, but it'll take a while, and crush her mind, body, and soul in about equal measure while doing so. I force mine onto such a regimen for roughly a week alongside harsher physical discipline, and it's usually enough to help get her through some...Episodes she has sometimes. she has a lot less trouble understanding her place after such treatment.

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Gruel? But that's the punishment food for acting extra dumb. You can't expect her to eat it every day.

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>I love my neko slave, even if she's a bit of a handful sometimes
>like how basically every conversation with her has a high chance of devolving into picrel
>it's not her fault, she's very emotional, it's what makes her so affectionate and devoted
>and Master is clearly treating her far better than she deserves, at least she thinks so
>I might rename her to "grovel" honestly
>it's quite endearing how she can get this way over "i did not look at you with the respect and worship you clearly deserve, Master."

>>11489875
Think of it like putting fuel in your car. Would you care for your car having concerns about the variety or the taste or whatever?

Obviously a lot of people treat their slaves differently, but dehumanization is a cornerstone of training mine. I think it helps her deal with the guilt of having failed me or done bad things. If Master is clearly treating you not as a human, then perhaps there's truth to him not holding you to human standards.

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>>11489445
It really is cute how clingy they get.

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>>11490399
It's nice to have such a visible effect on their mind. I don't think they ever get fully used to cuddling with their favourite person, mine still has her heart racing every single time.

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>>11486638
They probably have all the staff jobs "automated" due to being the kind of workplace that attracts the sketchiest people imaginable.

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>>11486321
>Societal collapse
>Ultracapitalist space colony
>Loophole fuckery. Are vat-grown catgirls human?

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>>11490729
>Loophole fuckery. Are vat-grown catgirls human?
Based on my personal experience with free-range catgirls I'm gonna go with "no".

They already need to be put in chains for their own good. I doubt growing them in a vat is going to change that.

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>>11490729
Vat-grown? Huh.
Mine just kind of showed up behind my door one night and never left. Guess it's because I was kind to her from the get-go, unlike the rest of the world.
Earning a catgirl's 100% trust feels great.

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>>11490804
Yeah they're like that. The cat distribution system applies to Neko's too.

I shudder to think what would have happened to mine had I not put her in chains, they don't do well with freedom, even worse with rejection, but thankfully her stupid little plan worked and she's been bound into servitude ever since.

It's nice seeing her slowly trust me with more and more of her just...weird neko girl things. It's endearing to see what her little mind comes up with. she's so dumb she can barely read most of the time, but then she presents to me these detailed and complex plans for a soulbinding ritual which will "make sure i get to serve Master even in the afterlife, Master!".

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Did you remember to take your slavegirl on a walk today?

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>>11490882
Yeah, but she dragged me to a local bakery again. As docile as this plump dummy is, there's no stopping her once she smells freshly baked pastries. Good thing I bought that heavy duty leash.
Huh, ¨doting¨. Who, me?

>>11489666
Maybe an houror two of some nightly exercises, like dancing to the rhythm of getting whipped or riding an exercise bike with a dildo will open her hunger. To make sure she regain the lost energy make sure to add somecumin her food. Ideally animal cum. Human cum is a reward and such behaviour is not to be rewarded.

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>>11490882
If you take your slave out for walkies at a specific time on specific days, even if you forget she won't. Yesterday was a lot of fun actually.

Big downpour, so she had to follow behind and hold a umbrella over me. she did really well, I was dry, she obviously was completely soaked. Getting home from outings like that I always make sure to personally towel off her body before she returns to service. It's good to be hands on with that instead of letting her do it herself.

It's good to see a smile on her face coming home drenched like that since she usually is covered in mud and tears when there's a lot of rain. Having a day like that where she isn't being tortured outdoors must feel a bit weird honestly, I make good use of them whenever she's in need of additional discipline.

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>>11490900
Rainy day? Staying indoors on a fluffy rug it is, then. Wouldn't want her to catch a cold.

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>>11490918
Make sure to cuddle her so she doesn't get cold. A slave that doesn't physically feel the warmth of her Master tends to get depressed too, and you don't want that.

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>>11490922
Well, of course. Though it gets awkward once she starts mumbling random stuff about me in her sleep.

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>>11490926
Yeah they do that. I think mine is a special case but any slave will eventually get obsessive enough with who owns them.

she...Might not be lying about every dream of hers being about me in some way or another. I'm glad she's been having less nightmares as her years of service pile up.

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>Yaaay, time to clean the house, Master! Don't worry, I'll be quick!
O-oh no. Got to hide all the vases again. And make sure there's nothing on the floor she can stumble on. And, and...
I just can't be mad at her, no matter how much of a dumb klutz she is, because gosh dangit she's so cute and always tries her best.

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>>11490947
>she's so cute and always tries her best.
Oh even if I treat mine far more like a slave that's just the truth. It's hard to be actually mad at her for any reason.

Mine's pretty good at domestic service now, she's had more than enough discipline, but it's still a good idea to inspect their work when they're done. Just in case.

>>11490931
Frieren couldn't possibly be enslaved

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>>11490967
She's some immensely powerful mage so probably not, no. Not unless she was willing.

Maybe you get bored of your lifestyle after 500 years and want a radical shift, who knows.

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>Medieval states lack the administrative capacity to run prison system. Instead, lesser criminals need to pay fine. If they can’t afford it, they need to work out the debt.
>meet Hilda.
>eldest daughter, after her parents died of fever it was up to her to provide for her siblings.
>Hilda was too proud to work as prostitute, and resorted to thievery instead.
>she got caught, couldn’t pay the hefty fine, so instead she has to pay off her debt as public fuckslut.
>every morning town’s resident wizard comes and casts a spell that prevents her from contracting and spreading STD’s for around a day; his contract states that he can fuck her as a bonus, an opportunity he never misses.
>once the spell is in place, she should be transported immediately to city square to begin her duties, but the guards like to give her a little “warmup” first.
>on a city square, she is put in the pillory, naked, and free for use for all townsfolk for entire day.
>there is no mercy; if she passes out guards drop bucket of ice-cold water at her and slap her face brutally until she wakes up.
>at the end of the day all her holes aro oozing with cum, and her neck, wrists and feet are basically open wounds
>after she is released and taken back to the dungeon she is given the cheapest healing potion that heals her wounds and prevents infection, but does nothing to qualm her pain.
>completely exhausted she would love to get some sleep, but the guards are not done with her just yet…
>after she finishes servicing the guards, she is unceremoniously cleaned up, eats crappy food she is given, and collapses in her cell.
>despite complains from local brothels about unfair competition, city’s Burgermeister orders all female criminals that are comely enough, to pay off their debt this way - it does wonders to his popularity. In one of those brothels, underpaid and abused, works now Hilda’s younger sister, careful to avoid Hilda’s mistakes.

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>>11491277

Enough talk about chattel, what do you think about public slaves?
>Would you/did you ever use one?
>What duties and protections should they have as a public property?
>Where should they came from? Prisoners, debtors, or maybe city council should spent some taxes on acquiring and maintaining them?
>If you were in position of power, would you delegate some of your slaves to serve the public? Why/ why not?

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>>11491278
>Would you/did you ever use one?
Nah I already got a personal and completely brainwashed slave. It's nice to threaten time in the stocks as punishment if she fucks up bad enough. It's particularly brutal, but I mostly just order mine to suck my cock in front of the poor creature locked up in there.

>What duties and protections should they have as a public property?
Hah...

Well it'd not be great if people were just allowed to dispose of them without permission from the local authority. It's common courtesy that if you make use of a slave, you leave her in a well enough state to serve again tomorrow.

>Where should they came from?
Lots of formerly human trash to choose from. A lot of slaves will either be criminals like previously described, or depending on how things are going war captives from far away lands. Lots of relatively unprotected villages with new stock just waiting to come to the capital city.

>delegate some of your slaves to serve the public?
Nah I'm too much of a weird wizard who likes to brainwash a single slave through various means. That's not to say that she doesn't get used by random members of the public, they just need to give me a good tip first. Assuming that she isn't being punished by stuff like a night in the stocks. That tends to be discipline that won't be forgotten for a long time.

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Do you modify your slaves bodies as a way to bring them to bring them to your standards and/or give them humiliating punishments?

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>>11490967
>>11490970
Even the most powerful mage is only one magic-sealing collar away from enslavement.

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>>11491447
Beating a slave into the shape you desire is already the norm, but magic does open a lot of options. You'd be saving a lot of money on hair dye when it's only being changed back to her natural colour by another spell, for one.

Punishments too. Like say flattie is being especially annoying with her whole "no You're wrong Master. my boobs are actually unsatisfying to You, Master." sure you can do your picrel sometimes, but I'd say it's better to render her boobs actually 100% flat for a few days. Show slaves like that what being unsatisfying actually looks like, and to be extra grateful that Master takes such care to force you to be especially satisfying to him.

>>11491453
If you are a even more powerful mage and defeat said mage that opens up a lot of options.

Sure her slipping out of the collar would always be dangerous, but there's a lot of ways to brainwash those things. Make the thought of freedom seem like more of a prison than servitude ever will be.

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>>11491447
I just make sure that my pet gets to live in excess (by slave standards), it's a matter of honor. That's it, really.
It's hilarious to see the confused and angry stares she gets from the other slaves when they see her curvy well-fed body and shiny gold jewelry, while she's just smiling brightly and remains completly oblivious of the cruelties she might've otherwise faced if she hadn't met me.
Lucky dummy.

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>caught my slave touching herself a few days ago
>how horrible
>brought her over my knee for a immediate spanking which...is nowhere close to what she expected for such a serious crime
>still brought her to tears of course, but I kissed her on the forehead when I was done and told her I'm proud of her but she has much worse torture waiting for her later
>oh no
>end of the week release day comes around
>drag her over to her supervised masturbation corner
>her old vibrator from when she was free is waiting for her
>oh no
>no no no
>overstimulation can often be worse than pain
>and considering how hard it is for her to get off with just her hands, she'll be in absolute hell now that she's permitted way more than just one orgasm
>she'll be down there for hours, but first it's customary to suck Master's cock before being permitted to masturbate, just like every sunday
>try not to shake too hard!
>it'll be even harder if you have to take a beating for poor service prior to your trip downstairs

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>>11490884
Be careful not to feed her too much, as fun as it is. they get too sleepy and aren't good for anything afterwards.

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>>11483886
Can anyone recommend some good reading on managing a large harem/group of slaves? It's pretty niche, but the training processes and politics of it are my favorite part.

Not sure if /patriarchy/ would be a better place to ask.

>>11491284
>Nah I'm too much of a weird wizard who likes to brainwash a single slave through various means.
That's hot, would you describe what exactly you do to achieve a training as effective as that? Asking for a friend ofc.

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>>11492182
>Asking for a friend ofc.
Of course. I personally prefer a mixture of the brutal cruelty that slaves usually experience alongside smaller acts of gentle kindness. It mushes up their little brains and makes them permanently attached to their Master.

For example, the first time you bring her home you force her to strip completely nude. she will never once wear clothes within your home. You forbid her from using any furniture, and she must ask permission to speak without being spoken to. This level of dehumanization will instantly humble any fresh slave, especially if they were recently free.

But then you treat her with kindness that makes it clear that her usual cruel treatment is just because of what she is, and you actually do like her. Headpats and a good girl after completing tasks, being handfed scraps of the people food she cooks you. Praising her body and her service when talking about her with other people. It forces her to internalize that she's a thing, but one that someone loves and has the closest a thing can have to a relationship with a person.

Such creatures will quickly become fiercely devoted, and often turn into their Master's greatest cheerleader. Perfect training for personal slaves. It's good to never let her out of your sight for too long either. Treat her a bit like a smartphone, keep her close at all times, ready to be used at any moment, if the focus is on other things she can just kneel staring at you until she has new commands to follow.

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>>11491983
That tends to happen often, yes. Once she starts staring at me with those bright expectant eyes it's basically impossible to say no; she's getting those cupcakes.
Though heading home and taking a nap together afterwards is comfy too, so it's fine.

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>>11483889
Basic training in the US military lasts 8-13 weeks, depending on branch.
The way I envision it, slave training would take longer than that. After all, it's kind of a more intense version of the same idea - breaking down the slave's personality and individuality and training them into total subservience. Ideally it would even be possible to rob a slave of their name, and turn them into simply a nameless "thing" with an identifier code at most.
A 26 week program would end up being essentially half a year - enough to rebuild the slave's personality from the ground up and quash any thought of future freedom.

>>11489666
>>11489695
What's the source on the webm?

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>>11492270
Nurunuru Bouzu
https://rule34video.com/video/4193639/punishment-naynnayn-2/
https://imhentai.xxx/gallery/1593160/

>>11492281
Ty. By chance are there any other websites you like looking for slavery content on?

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>>11490967
For her it's just a few decades' inconvenience.

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>>11492243
And come to think of it, they really should open some slave cafes, shit's getting expensive otherwise. My pampered pet isn't exactly a light eater anymore, guess I'm myself to blame for that.

>>11492303
I don't know any slavery-specific website, if that's what you're asking.

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Reminder that, even if it's cute and/or funny, masochistic sex slaves pretending they are not masochistic sex slaves should still be punished (well, "punished").

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>>11489666
>>11489695
Eh. I am absolutely certain that she will be presented with ways to redeem herself in the future.

Finding terrible slop takes effort. Why bother with that? Just let her starve for a while. Maybe disrupt her sleep. It will make her more pliable, and give you more negotiating leverage. Not so great long term, for obvious reasons. It is not good for her. But it is useful in the short term for making her desperate.

Thiopental is not effective as a truth serum. No such thing really exists. It lowers inhibitions in the manner that alcohol does. I don't think this is actually effective for breaking people. Let them show their full resistance, and show them that it is not enough. There is no particular reason to lower inhibitions, in my mind. It may be useful for building a compliance ladder, but this can also be done in many other ways.

Threat of cruelty isn't actually effective as a means of control. What you get is a pet that will behave when there's someone closely watching and a reason to go along. Skinner boxes do not actually work that well in practice.

If what you want is a pet that's well behaved even when there's nobody watching, you will have to show them kindness at some point. Breaking them isn't enough, you will have to put them back together again. Bond with them and give them new meaning.

But, I suppose everything depends on what you want. If you want a broken wreck, you can do that. I don't know why that's appealing, but sure. Go for it. Not what I'm interested in though. I prefer a loyal and devoted servant that I can place my trust in. Who can make me tea and manage my schedule and obsess over the details of how I like my eggs. Someone who is made whole by service, rather than less.

Typically this means willing participants.

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>april fool's day with my slave
>could be cruel to her, but I decided to be kind instead
>she's endured enough cruelty lately
>snacking on a chocolate bar
>decide to break off a piece of it to handfeed her
>"are...are You positive, Master?"
>"p-perhaps You would prefer that i kiss Your feet or suck Your cock, Master?"
>"using my mouth for it's intended purpose rather than wasting it on eating Y-your Master food, Master..."
>oh she's still afraid of some awful trick, understandable
>SLAP
>she's more than willing to be handfed now
>giving her a headpat and watching her smile after giving a thunderclap across her cheek does sum up her life honestly
>she confirms it's been roughly 2 years since I last fed her chocolate, and she "loves it, Master." and "i am so glad You find me worthy, Master."
>what a well trained little bitch, I'm so proud of her

>>11492879
>I prefer a loyal and devoted servant
Exactly.

Replace any meaning in life they had before with service to Master. Break down all vestiges of humanity, and replace it with what pleases you best. Even if you often treat her with cruelty and disdain, a slave should still be a person's most valued possession.

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I'm still not entirely sure what did my pet try to achieve with her April fools' day joke. She was following me all day in cheerleader clothes, jumping and cheering me on, and shouting embarrassing stuff like ¨Master, Master, he's the man! I love him forever and ever!¨
That... that doesn't even rhyme, though. Well, at least she tried, A+ for effort.

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>>11490884
Mine never leaves my arm, but just starts sniffing and getting excited, trying to guess where we're going. Silly neko, the whole point is that you have no idea what's out there, to simply trust Master.

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>>11493574
Yeah, I was not about to leave the house when she was acting like that. It would've been real awkward if she kept cheering me outside. That dumb thing has 0 situational awareness after all.

>>11483886
>1) What setting would you choose for your scenario? Modern? Fantasy? Sci-fi? Based in reality?
Modern/dystopian, slightly Sci-fi (less Sci-Fi than Cyberpunk but with advanced technology compared to today). World is very organized, clean, peaceful and strict on social norms. Slaves are not mainly sex slaves/prostitutes (although that's often the case for many especially good looking female slaves) but to a great extend like slavery in ancient Rome.
>2) What's the main supply of slaves?
Government conscription. Every year an amount of random people from late teen to 30 are conscripted into slavery, stripped off all human rights and sold like ordinary commodities in supermarkets. There is no way to circumvent conscription and deserting is a serious crime that will be punished by lifetime enslavement as labor slaves where they have to do heavy work. Therefore conscripts are better off accepting their fate and hope they will be sold to a wealthy household that treats them like a good pet. Albeit slaves don't possess human rights at all, there are some laws similar to today's pet protection laws in some countries, that means meaningless cruelty and senseless killing of a slave can be punished with a hefty fine.
>3) In case of mass enslavement, how are new slaves kept and trained to ensure they won't rebel or disrupt the society?
Electronic collars with GPS and tattoos. Also slavery is widely accepted in society. Rebellion against slavery as well as desertion from slave duties are a major offense and frown upon by a wide majority of the citizens. The government ran slave market is funding important social projects of the government and welfare making the society rich and wealthy.
>1) How do you want your slave(s) to view you/feel about you?
That I am a good care taker who's helping them becoming better slaves so that they will have a good slave life.
>2) Would you consider training new slaves in groups or pairs?
That could be an interesting business.

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>>11493585
They have so little self control. Mine thinks just because she can't see, other people can't see her. She's in her own little world where only her and her Master exists.

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>owned my slave for a while now
>I'm happy she's getting comfortable enough to randomly surrender the weird things she thinks or believes to me
>like how she wants to be executed should she fail me
>"crucifixion would be the best choice should i need to be disposed of, Master."
>"the suffering i endure will last long enough that even in my worst moment of having failed my reason to exist i can provide some entertainment to my God one last time..."
>"..."
>"Happy Easter, Master! would You like me to act like a entertaining bunny girl for You i-instead of saying these things, Master?"
>honestly she might have some scorching summer days tied to a cross for a few hours in her future
>the fun part of her admitting her random fucked up torture fantasies to Master is that it has a decent chance of just being inflicted on her one day
>assuming it's survivable, a lot of the stuff she says to me sadly would result in the end of her service

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>>11494094
My dumb pampered pet took part in an egg hunt, but she only managed to find 3 out of 17 eggs I hid. And here I thought that I put them in such obvious places that she would have no trouble finding them all. Guess I'll just go help her before she starts sobbing again, sigh..

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>>11494357
I keep on thinking the ways my slave shows how dumb she is is actually some form of performance. she didn't do well at the easter eggs either.

I guess I did order her to crawl the entire time but they were at slave-height, come on now. I hid 11 in a outdoor area, and she found only 2. I forced the dumb animal to dogeza and worship a tree for a few hours as punishment, which maybe is what she wanted to have happen the entire time, but still.

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>>11494404
All right, she finally found all the eggs. Only took her 3 hours...
Now, reward time!

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>>11491447
I mean, you have to humiliate the murderwhore that attacked you...

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Happy Easter, anons!

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>>11494924
Hm, how many chocolate eggs did I buy to my pet?
Yes.

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>>11494688
Torture helps alleviate a slaves guilt.

Of course, magical brands could help, especially if you have reason to believe she could still be dangerous. If you're going to be enslaving such a thing because of some transgression against you though then humiliation is also a effective tool.

Anytime someone tries to talk to her, especially someone she knows from before, make sure she dutifully states "i did a bad thing, and as a result i am no longer a person. please do not speak to me as one." before refusing to speak further, keeping her eyes downcast. Life as a slave is particularly brutal too even if you aren't trying to intentionally change her body to suit your tastes. It won't be long before people will be able to take one look at her and know she's just a tool.

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She tried her best. In retrospect, I should've gotten the eggs that beeped.

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>>11495285
Are you entirely sure that the beeping wouldn't scare her, and she'd just hide behind Master instead? I can see a problem right away trying to do something like that with mine.

>>11495298
My pet would probably think they're time bombs or something, and hide under my bed again. Or try to hide anyway, her huge butt always gets stuck and then she panics even more. You'd think she would learn after getting stuck once, but no.

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>>11495298
Neko slaves aren't really stupid, just horrible executive disfunction and need master to think for them.
For example, you tell a neko to sort papers into pile A, B, and C, depending on content, and you'll see her make at least 20 piles of 1A, 2A, 3A, 2B, etc, etc. A 20 minute task that involves decision-making takes hours, maybe days, and leave her horribly frustrated, when she wants nothing more than master making the calls.

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>>11495376
Under the bed, huh?

I'm surprised I haven't caught mine sleeping under there. I never ordered her to, but she has to be punished for doing weird things like that all the time. Seems like she'd love to rest with me even more above her, but I also value being able to look down and enjoy her nude body on my floor when I'm having trouble sleeping, so at least she's obedient for that.

They...Also rarely learn from getting stuck. Learning from their mistakes is tough in general. The 30th time I have to punish my neko for making the exact same mistake while cleaning would be a bit frustrating if I wasn't already pretty used to how those things are.

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>>11495401
Hah. Yeah exactly.

I just don't give her tasks that she needs to figure out on her own. The cure to executive dysfunction is to have Master standing above you guiding you through anything more complicated than a few minutes of basic service.

Giving that paper sorting task to any slave, much less a neko, is borderline irresponsible. They aren't that kind of tool.

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>>11495269
>Anytime someone tries to talk to her, especially someone she knows from before, make sure she dutifully states "i did a bad thing, and as a result i am no longer a person. please do not speak to me as one." before refusing to speak further
Not gonna lie, but that sounds counterproductive:
If they're talking to someone who didn't know their evil deeds, you probably want them to go into big detail into what they did, to kill any and all chances at sympathy.
If it's someone who knew what living trash they were, they were probably either against her or with her. Making her say what has been done to her in detail will probably make the first feel satisfaction and avoid them trying to kill her, giving her the easy way out and/or make them join in on her humiliation and will most likely cause fear and/or shame to the latter, who are probably next on the list...

>>11495423
And in general making her talk bad about herself remind herself of her own humiliation is probably humiliating on its own.

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>>11495423
That is true. Perhaps she can switch to the short "i am no longer a person" after a year or two, but when she's first been given mercy and permitted to live in servitude having her immediately start describing each individual thing she's done and the suffering she has endured to make things right with Master would certainly...Make it clear that she will never be human again.

Patience and mercy is how I often like to train slaves, even those that perhaps have a lot to be deeply guilty about, but forcing her to describe her crimes in detail to her former friends would deeply humble such a creature. Especially if they choose to still be a part of her life, and make use of her as they please.

>>11495432
There's nothing quite like having her describe her own deepest shame and failures, followed by "but Master forgave me, now my life is His." It perfectly encapsulates why she doesn't deserve freedom.

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>>11495402
>The 30th time I have to punish my neko for making the exact same mistake while cleaning would be a bit frustrating
At this point I just think it's hilarious. Sometimes I pretend not to hear her screaming me for help for a few minutes before I pull her out of there. Though I make sure not to laugh too much, otherwise she just gets pouty.

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>>11495298
>>11495376
>>11495402
>>11495403
>>11495742

Damn, are your slaves truly THIS stupid? Mine aren't the brightest, sure, but they are... how to put... adequately trained. They do all the tasks they are expected to do. And they know what happens if they fail.

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>>11495900
Mine is just a spoiled plump house cat who wandered in one day years ago (back then she was full of bruises and malnourished). Living a pampered, sheltered life with no more daily worries might have uh... dulled her mind a little. Not that she was smart to begin with, she just got really lucky. Imagine if she had wandered in to my neighbor's house, that man whips his slaves as a hobby every day.

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So, regarding training: Do you think it's better to have a weekly program of sorts, or is one day dedicated to a specific subject not enough? Or is it better to have no rhythm at all so that they don't get numb to the training?

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>>11496339
I still like the idea of slaves being extremely personalized, and their training reflecting that. Most of it being done by their Master to make her skilled in the things that he values. A formalized slave training program would likely only be for completely fresh slaves, and intended to break down any semblance of resistance to the fact that their lives are no longer theirs.

Training in that personalized model would also happen largely as a direct consequence of punishments for poor service. A slave is not giving her best blowjobs, so after enduring her lashes she has to spend a couple of hours a day practising on a dildo inbetween her other duties. she isn't the best at cleaning, so after being brought to tears from the pain, she has Master walk her through the exact motions she needs to do, often physically guiding her hands, so that she can remove all unnecessary thinking from her mind and just be a tool.

Perhaps there'd be slave schools for more complex skills. Like if you want your slave to be really good at cooking, you send her to a course during the day that teaches her the same things someone training to be a chef would learn, except the instructor is allowed to slap and scold her when she messes up. Such a world would probably see slaves as a reflection of who they serve so there might be a stigma against letting other people train your slave too much.

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>>11495913
Yeah, makes sense if you pamper them like that. I'm not so cruel to whip my slaves all day for no reason, but they do exist to serve and amuse me, like in the picrel. And I love playing mind games with them:
>"You missed a spot."
>"This worthless slave apologises, Master, it will fix the mistake at once. Please, punish it however you see fit, Master."
>"Actually, no, you didn't miss anything. I only said that to see how you would react. Are you so careless in your duties that you don't even know if you cleaned something or not?"
or alternatively
>"Did you call yourself *worthless*? Are you suggesting that I can only afford cheap slaves? You think I'm poor?!"

I absolutely love how they squirm beneath me, trying to explain themselves, and not make things worse. So they can't have pet-like intelligence, that would be no fun. And if they fail the game too many times, or their answers are simply too dull too entertain me... being whipped all day could be seen as mercy. On the other hand, if they manage to talk themselves out of the situation, or fail so miserably that it's actually kinda funny, I can give them great rewards (great for a slave, a least).

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>>11496399

I never considered it, to be honest. I buy pre-trained slaves, but they complete only generic training, not personalised one. Of course they also get orientation to learn house-specific rules, but I don't have time to do it myself. Instead, I appointed alfa slave who takes care of training while I'm at business meeting or whatnot.

>Training in that personalised model would also happen largely as a direct consequence of punishments for poor service. A slave is not giving her best blowjobs, so after enduring her lashes she has to spend a couple of hours a day practising on a dildo inbetween her other duties.
It actually already works this way to an extent. Slave trainers that I buy from are professionals, but some minor inadequacies will slip through. When that happens, I devise strict regimen to get rid of any flaw slave has. Although I am too busy to oversee it myself, my current alfa bitch is doing good job.

>Perhaps there'd be slave schools for more complex skills. Like if you want your slave to be really good at cooking, you send her to a course during the day that teaches her the same things someone training to be a chef would learn, except the instructor is allowed to slap and scold her when she messes up
Interesting idea, if I find slave school with good opinion i may sent some of my brighter slavegirls to get advanced skills.

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>>11496431
Ah I just enslave one former person. It's how she can get away with being so dumb she has mental breakdowns because she has to decide which exact cleaning technique to use on this spot. A lot of slaves probably don't serve so closely that they feel like another limb of their Master at times.

>Interesting idea, if I find slave school with good opinion i may sent some of my brighter slavegirls to get advanced skills.

There's some good ones out there for slaves to learn how to draw actually.

It's fun to force a slave to draw all sorts of hentai for you. The fact it's the closest she gets to any kind of skilled work isn't lost on her, and I've successfully trained her to only freak out a little bit about her art not being completely perfect "like Master deserves".

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>>11496455
I wonder if I should let my neko see to draw, or see what she tries to do. If I gave her a dried-out pen, she'd be sad to see a blank sheet later.
It must be her mischievous side rubbing off on me that I would even think of messing with her like that. I'd make it up to her, though.

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>>11496870
slaves love making things for their Master. Presenting it to him, getting headpats and praise for good work, or slaps and scolding for poor work, it's the highlight of their day regardless.

Nekos are also...Like that. Makes it easier to be mean to them sometimes, but I don't like to be unnecessarily cruel all the time. slaves are easy to trick in general because of how small their lives actually are. There's not a lot they truly understand outside of service to Master.

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>>11496870
I just bought some crayons and a coloring book for my pet. She also wants to draw me + about 50 cartoonish red hearts on every page for some reason, though with her artistic ¨skills¨ I just end up looking like a stick figure every time. Oh well.

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>>11496916
When I order mine to draw herself I also have to order her to be a lot kinder to her body. Poor thing, despite all my training and discipline she still isn't happy with herself.

Of course she draws me like a golden god every single time. she will just take the punishment if I tell her to tone it down, which is a bit endearing at least. It feels like therapy sometimes, if I let her just draw a self portrait of us it ends up with just loads of images of her grovelling before me with words like "inferior expired neko who doesn't deserve Master's Eternal Mercy and Kindness" scrawled all over it.

Art slaves are fun though. One way to be a bit cruel to them is to order them to draw themselves being subjected to a form of torture that you describe in exact detail, leaves them wondering if that will happen to them at some point. There's this dawning realization as they're getting manhandled around that they've drawn this exact situation before that is just delicious.

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>>11496936
>Art slaves are fun though
Yes and no. There's currently an endless supply of her drawings on my fridge door. Every day I wake up to her exited ¨GOOD MORNING, MASTER! LOOK!¨ yells and pic related when I open my eyes. Then she gives me 5 to 10 more of her doodles.

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>>11496959
*excited

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>>11496959
Oh to be so dumb must be liberating for a slave. Mine has so much trouble trying to be head empty and happy. Even if it helps to cheer up Master too, being like that will always be a performance.

I usually have to force her to stop drawing. Every picture would take a bare minimum of a month so that it "can be as perfect as Master deserves" otherwise. Probably the surest evidence of her actually being a good artist, she hates when people get to see her work, even when it's Master, who both the drawing and the artist belong to in the first place.

Lots of nekos. she isn't actually a cat girl IRL she just is one of those weirdos that really identifies with that. 100% of her human figures have cat ears unless ordered to do otherwise.

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Did that one invincible scene activate anyone else almonds

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Need advice for degenerate LARPing fantasies
>server name is our basic slave identification code, Sex-YYYYMMDD-3 digit skin tone-weight(lbs)-height(cm)-Waist-Cupsize/Girth
>Every Monday morning we have to submit a video of us weighing ourselves with 'Slave', or 'Slut' or something derogatory for the Master's inspection
>Apart from that unable to pick up phone until permission is sent over each day
>Can't leave without sending outfit of the day and getting permission
>Constant one way surveillance possible for the pan option, so the Master can display us to potential buyers with total anonymity

what i am really struggling to come up with is how Master can enforce discipline/punishments, and even just take His ire out on us

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>>11497178
First off, whatever punishment you were set to receive next you get an extra 10 for "pan option".
As for remote enforcement, it's hard to go wrong with a shock collar, ideally something tall and heavy. This one would also have a GPS tracker, microphone and speaker, and gyroscope (to enforce positions, for example if a certain downward angle were required it would effectively require a dogeza.) If a collar isn't an option for public appearance, a waist belt with the same functions can be substituted. (This also comes with the benefit of waist control, something I personally am a big fan of.
Keeping the collar charged is your responsibility. The battery is large enough to last a week or so, but if it goes below 75% or so then you start getting repeated debilitating shocks until you plug it in or someone comes to discipline you in person.
The morning videos are a good idea, but made daily instead. The camera can track the pose you need to hold so I don't need to review the footage if I don't have the time. I'll bet that image recognition is good enough at this point that if you just held your arms above your head and slowly turned in a circle, it could get a pretty accurate BWH measurement.
I'm sure there's more ways to control you with this system but once we have the hardware in place there's always the option for OTA updates.

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>>11497195
>First off, whatever punishment you were set to receive next you get an extra 10 for "pan option".

Ive seen that slave around here before. she's pretty cute, although I'm not surprised "panopticon" is too big a word for her.

Glad to see someone else who loves this artist. I enjoy the pictures with slaves being forced to hold those stress poses with their arms in the air. I am sentencing that slave to hold the pose in this one for 10 minutes, plus the additional 10 that you gave her, for a total of 20 minutes. Additionally she won't be sleeping in a bed tonight, instead on the same spot on the floor where she held that pose.

As for enforcing discipline in long distance enslavement like that your ideas are probably the only workable ones. The shock collar is different from Master being able to stand over you with his whip. There's no way to brace yourself or beg for forgiveness, the pain thunders through immediately. There's also the panopticon of course, Master could be watching at any time, he's like a guardian angel. Even if he doesn't care enough to watch you constantly, he always could, and that further motivates the slave to be of perfect service.

I also think the collar should be as bulky and heavy as possible. Completely undeniable what it is. Especially with Master only giving permission for the most revealing slave outfits before going outside, having people stare at such a obviously subjugated girl should be the goal.

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>>11497195
>shock collars
Should work but i am worried that nobody onhand means nobody to enforce, especially if the shock collar needs to be taken off to charge
the arms above head and slow circle is perfect for LARPing as a worthwhile slave, and the thumbnail alone should be enough to check the proper pose is being maintained
i also think that you're right, and whilst daily weight check videos are excessive, and wouldn't give anything new, that doesn't mean having to write slurs on my body for Master wouldn't be a good regimen for breaking fresh slaves in

>>11497249
>hold pose for 10 plus an additional 10
i don't know why i'm so malleable to the commands of strangers on the internet

>long distance
yeah, it's hard to conceptualise the enforcement for slaves that haven't alreadu been broken in

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>>11497462
>i don't know why i'm so malleable to the commands of strangers on the internet

You're a slave. There's always going to be a massive gulf between you and regular people. Even if you don't currently have chains constricting your body the chains around your mind and soul are never going away.

I think the only way long distance enforcement for slaves could work is if the shock collar cannot be taken off. Even charging it involves it still being on, I'd expect most slaves would dogeza towards the charger with the charging cable running off their necks like a leash.

Writing degrading things on your body at the command of someone better is a lot of fun, I do agree. That's why when you're resting on the floor tonight you'll write "DIRT" somewhere on that pathetic hide.

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Oftentimes when I'm feeling bad about myself, Mistress will have me kneel for her, hold my head in place by the hair, and just smother me in kisses. This goes for substantially longer than it takes for my knees and ankles to give out, but I'm not allowed to move or say anything. I'm only allowed to suffer for Her. And enjoy myself. And enjoy myself suffering for Her.

By the end my legs have gone completely numb. That's when She starts punching them to get the blood flowing again. It hurts so much. Sometimes I'm able to keep quiet and take my beatings like a good girl. When I'm not, She makes sure I regret it and feel adequately punished by the end.

This never ceases to cheer me up. It's hard to be sad when I'm shaking and crying for Her. I love my mistress.

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>>11497462
Of course the collar is locked on, if you were able to take it off that defeats the entire purpose of remote control.
That does mean you'll be responsible for cleaning under it, there's just enough room to run a thin washcloth under it (but don't even think of leaving it there, the shock module can detect the change in resistance and will keep increasing the power until you take it out or stop moving.)
Charging is done during inspection time, with the cord mounted to the camera like a leash.
>daily weight check videos are excessive
Daily almost isn't enough. They're not just visual checks, it's also time for training. You might end up posing for an hour in the morning and an hour at night, if you can't hold the poses for that long then you better start practicing.
Personally I'm not a fan of body writing, and feel like your time could be better spent repeating mantras into the mirror, but that's an owner to owner preference.

>>11497249
>Glad to see someone else who loves this artist.
I'm usually much more about physical restraints, but if the slave is obedient enough to inflict her own punishments then it's good fun to watch.

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>>11497570
>daily weight check
But I have to make sure she's not uh.. starving.

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>>11497547
God that's such a beautiful relationship. I live for the kind of dynamics where a slave is treated with both love and brutality. Having your freedom taken away includes your freedom to be sad. Mistress wants you happy, and so she will make sure you are.

>>11497570
>I'm usually much more about physical restraints, but if the slave is obedient enough to inflict her own punishments then it's good fun to watch.

I like a lot about that artist's work, but especially how personal a relationship this Master has with his slave. It's obvious that she doesn't need restraints or much stopping her from disobeying him, devotion comes naturally to her since every part of her life is completely dominated by personal service to him.

>>11497674
>daily weight check

Having a personal body inspection in the morning is a good ritual to have. Make sure every part of her is to your specifications, body hair is shaved, her hair and makeup is still completely under your control, and of course the weight is still where you want it, not above or below where it is supposed to be.

slaves who skip meals are still refusing Master's control the same as slaves who steal food, and will be dealt with accordingly.

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>>11497682
>not above or below where it is supposed to be.
Yeah, about that. I think my pet is going to need a new swimsuit for next summer. The one I bought her last year is starting to look a bit... let's just say 'indecent'. Oh well, she's been begging for a bright blue one anyway, with ¨property of¨ + my initials printed on the top.

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>>11497692
God mine wanted to go to the beach constantly after getting her "slave compliant swimsuit". It was tailored specifically for her, but that just means there is not a single bit of unnecessary fabric, it barely counts as clothes. I suppose I could have gotten something printed on it but it'd be hard to see, especially in that really light shade of pink.

You can see her brand anyways. And it's not like she's not ever wearing her collar. Pretty easy to figure out that she's my property.

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>>11497752
Let's make them play a match of beach volleyball or something. Though needless to say your slave is going to win unless you order her to play badly, my pet isn't exactly nimble or fast..
On second thought maybe building sandcastles sounds better.

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>>11497773
Oh she's going to win volleyball every time, I'm actually a bit surprised how fit she manages to be. I think being in a warm place where she can be very active and use her body for all sorts of physical displays puts her mind at ease, she isn't nearly as weird towards other slaves.

My favourite thing to do is to order her to run laps. Yours probably wouldn't be able to keep up, but she can just run in circles around everyone with a beaming smile on her face. It's adorable. Building sandcastles usually ends up with her attempting to live out her fantasy of being worked to death building a giant statue of me, so uh, she certainly won't be paying much attention to what yours is trying to build.

Has anyone ever tried short-term slave dynamics?
I think a weekend slave contract where the signee agrees to be property for a limited time could be fun for those that still want to have normal lives or test things out with new owners.
Recently learned about 'houseboys' and that seems fun too.

Also since there's no other thread for this, what are your thoughts on platonic discipline dynamics, where the parties agree on rules, deadlines, and punishments (usually corporal) for breaking them?

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>>11498007
>short-term slave dynamics
Actually living this kind of lifestyle is very extreme. I think a lot of slaves who have these kind of feelings are also quite afraid of how much it could consume them, and want some guard rails so that they aren't tempted to throw away all the friends and humanity they have built up. A good Master should want what's best for his slaves too, and I would heavily question anyone who would demand immediate complete surrender from a slave. I've not been able to do much of this lifestyle due to interpersonal stuff I'd rather not blogpost about again, but a lot of slaves into this tend to be pretty unstable to begin with, and I'd have praise for one that is able to clearly communicate and establish boundaries like that, instead of getting up in their little heads about how they won't be acceptable if they don't completely surrender.

>platonic discipline dynamics
"You have to take care of yourself and be a good person or else you get hurt" is like one half of a lot of slavery dynamics to begin with. Hey I'd be happy to do that sort of thing, leaving a positive impact on people is something I love to do, it filters through to most interactions I have. There's quite a few ways that a Master or a Dom isn't that meaningfully different from a parent.

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>I love having my slave introduce herself to people, slave name and all
>she started as merely a number, but it wasn't long before she earned herself a degrading slave name
>having her drop to her knees and say "i am slave assmeat, Sir." never gets old
>especially when people ask why this skinny thing with not that much definition anywhere ended up with a name like that
>"please talk to my Master, Sir. i'm just a slave."

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>>11497773
I have to be careful mine doesn't wander off into the ocean if she starts playing.

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>>11498499
>water cold, can feel it on my legs
>i trust Master completely though
>will keep moving forward, just as He commands

Yeah. Could cause problems. Even if you're going to be mean and slap your blind neko around make sure to never leave her unattended.

>>11498501
I'd need to reel her in if she wandered off to far.

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>>11498504
Having leg chains would limit how fast she could get in trouble, to say nothing of a leash. There's even the pleasing clinking sound that makes her easier to locate should she get lost.

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>>11498504
I'd probably have to take a selfie posing with her like she's a fish I just caught from the ocean if I caught her wandering into it too.

I mean, she's not that far away from something like that. It'd be another humiliating photo for her to reflect on.

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>it's a relatively chilly day today, raining a decent bit
>a good day for my favourite forms of outdoor torture, but a absolutely perfect one for interrogation
>cold enough to be extremely uncomfortable for a nude slave, warm enough that she can survive out there for long enough to extract whatever you need from her
>mandhandle her outside, shove her down to her knees into the mud
>stand directly above her, grab her by the hair to look up at you to answer your questions
>if she isn't telling you what you want to hear, spit on her, then shove her face down in the mud
>leave her alone for 20 minutes to stew on what she wants to say to you
>there could be something you want her to be truthful about, it could just be that you want to be cruel and torture her
>either way, she could be out there a long time
>and it can get far worse, she hasn't even meaningfully felt the whip yet
>hasn't licked every speck of dirt and mud off my boots before being permitted to speak again
>she hasn't even done push ups while the now spotless boot pushes back down on her back
>like come on now, it was never going to be that easy

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>>11498501
>slap your blind neko
Careful with this. It messes with them because they can't anticipate the slap, ever.

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>>11498697
Physical cruelty with blindfolded slaves is particularly scary for that exact reason. If you do it too much they'll just become a anxious mess, even more so than they usually are, and that's usually not the best for who they serve.

slaves are very attentive to the emotions of their humans, neko slaves especially, so chances are if you are upset enough with her to do that kind of cruelty she'll be able to tell at least a little bit, but since she can't anticipate the raising of your whip or the kick to her side she just gets scared and anticipates such pain constantly. It's best to be a bit gentler with them when it's lights out.

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>>11498712
>be a bit gentler with them when it's lights out
It really makes booping them irresistible.
She's usually lights out in public, puts her in subspace almost instantly, and makes her very clingy and deliciously vulnerable, often not daring to even take a step unaided. The outside world is none of her concern anyway, only master's.

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>>11498007
I have, yes. From time to time, usually between jobs, I go serve my mistress for a few months. Unfortunately it does not make a lot of sense for me to go 24/7 permanently, as I have a phd in a very lucrative field and care a lot about my research and career. I hyperfixate super hard, and She knows when to pull me away for my own good. It's like She's better at emotionally regulating me than I am. We're both of the opinion that agency and self actualization are important. Much of our relationship is Her making me into the best submissive I can be. But also the strongest, most well-rounded person I can be. For Her, and also for myself.

If I were to offer any advice though, it's that >>11498078 is absolutely right, and you should listen to them.

My other piece of advice is that people who go for this lifestyle think they are running towards something, but typically they are running away from something. Consider what that may be.

Another piece of advice, look up the symptoms of cptsd, and see whether or not you fit into that category. Properly managed D/s relationships can be very helpful for healing from trauma, but there's a decent chance you also need therapy to teach you some additional tools.

It is very common for emotionally dependent people to latch onto a prospective master and then not have the emotional skills needed to actually maintain a relationship. So, make sure that's not what you're doing either.

Once again, I suggest therapy. If this lifestyle is appealing to you, you would probably benefit.

There's a book called The Dominance Playbook. It's written for dominants, but is also extremely useful for submissives. At this point I've made like four or five of my submissives read it.

That's enough disclaimers. I really enjoy lifestyle D/s. For an actual taste of what full time looks like you would want to go for like, a week. Weekend is also good, it's just more like an extended play session. Which is also a great time.

>>11498732
>She's usually lights out in public
Wouldn't that attract undue attention that obviously some game is going on?

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>>11498733
>it's that >>11498078 (You) is absolutely right, and you should listen to them.

It does feel good to hear you say that, considering I am also writing a lot of the aspirational torture porn in this thread. It's strange to think of myself as a combination therapist, parent, and torturer, but yeah that's just what a Master is.

Therapy is good. Ive had a lot over the years. It gives you the tools to deal with things, although having the theory of what to do is just one step on the long road to actually doing it. People tend to be really good at constructing a mind prison for themselves, I know mine very well. I think the fear of many slaves to establish boundaries comes from the fact that they are very much using a Master to fill a void in their soul, and their love for them is often so complete, total, and unconditional that it feels wrong to somehow turn around and set conditions on your own life. Anything less than complete surrender of that life makes you feel like you're committing a transgression, or makes you unworthy in some way, so it's better to just stay in that mind prison. Escaping from prison is hard and dangerous, and the mind prison isn't that much different.

I'm...Also not sure its possible to be into this lifestyle and not have had some sort of mental health struggles at some point. I think far less about the Master side of this since I've got myself figured out a lot more and I swear being any form of submissive makes your emotions instantly 3x more intense, but you're going to need to have felt anxiety before to be able to understand and control a slave whose body is 60% anxiety instead of water.

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>>11498504
>reel her in
Yeah, good luck with that when she spots a cute squirrel or something.

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>>11498780
>Yeah, good luck with that when she spots a cute squirrel or something.
Another reason to keep her light's out, so she doesn't chase.
>>11498748
>Wouldn't that attract undue attention that obviously some game is going on?
No, the opaque contacts are virtually invisible from the outside
Now the collar and cat ears, that's a different story.

>>11497178
I'm not sure I understand your scenario anon. What do you mean by server? What do you mean by picking up the phone? What does the phone have to do with anything?

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>>11498794
>keep her light's out
And stop her from doing random hilarious stuff unexpectedly? Nah, I choose chaos.

>>11498873
>And stop her from doing random hilarious stuff unexpectedly?
There's plenty of random chaos. it makes them less inhibited since they don't think anyone's watching.

>>11498078
Setting up boundaries was meant to be implicit, Sir. The weekend slavery contract should outline what power is given, what little control the slave retains, and what the expectations are.

Another question: Do any of the owners here have something set up for the thread's slaves to do tasks? Maybe someone could make a chaster lock with a task wheel? (actual chastity hardware optional)

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>>11498980
I like the respect, slave. Signing a weekend slavery contract would be good for a lot of slaves. Having solid rules of what can and can't be done to them helps put their mind at ease, and should any friction arise it's good to build that trust seeing how who they serve deals with it.

I don't think anybody in this thread has set up any system like that. The capability to do stuff like that most certainly exists, but slavery is also such a personal thing to me, even giving tasks to internet strangers it feels wrong to automate it. You aren't enduring misery just for the entertainment of someone better, but because that human being also wants to dominate a piece of your soul. Stuff like a chaster lock feels like I gave a machine part ownership over my human property.

>>11499100
Thank you, Sir. I understand wanting to hand out orders personally.
Is there anything I can do/suffer to please you?

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>>11499214
Hm. Well you know what nekos are supposed to love, slave?

Boxes. Go and find one that is big enough to stuff your lowly form inside of. If you don't have one, then confining yourself inside a closet or crawling underneath a human bed will do. Kneel and kiss the floor infront of whatever you choose, and then crawl inside for exactly 11 minutes. Close yourself up inside as best you can, then release yourself and crawl back out, before kissing that same spot on the floor again.

Even the floor is too good for dirt like you. Make sure you are especially grateful to it.

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>>11498755
>therapist, parent, and torturer, but yeah that's just what a Master is.
I very much agree. There is, I think, an uncomfortable overlap between parenting and D/s.

It's actually kinda extremely fucked up that we expect every single child to navigate a 24/7 TPE relationship with their parents because our society considers children as property. This is kinda hyperbole, but not by that much. It's luck of the draw in the same way. Get a good master? Excellent! Although you won't be able to participate in society the same way as an adult. Unlucky? Shitty parents? You're screwed. For the most part you have no recourse. Enjoy your generational trauma.

But at least the parenting advice is mostly-applicable to D/s relationship stuff. There's a lot to be gained by reading parenting books and recontextualizing them.

Understanding all this has made me a bit apprehensive about parenting. I don't want to treat my future kids like my submissives. Sometimes I kind of wish I could go back to a time before I had this knowledge. I want my innocence back. Just so that I can deal with potential kids without having to second guess and triplecheck myself.

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>>11499399
...Yeah.

I've known I didn't want children since I was like 6 years old so that's a solved problem for me at least, but you are right. I'm sure there's ways to break down how its different, it sure feels like there is, but I just have feelings and no words. So yeah, that's a cognitohazard if ive ever seen one.

Ive always likened being a Master to more like owning a pet. Maybe its because I actually do take care of a small anxiety-stricken creature instead of a child. There's more than a few ways that too is different but I've always seen that throughline between always going for a tiny anxiety-filled dog that gets highly attached and will freak out if they don't know where you are at all times and also liking the slaves who aren't too different from that kind of personality.

>>11499303
I have completed your orders, Sir. It was mildly uncomfortable, but I also made sure to stuff my ass like the slave in your pic so I wouldn't be too bored. I even managed to have a quick orgasm under the bed.

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>>11499537
You really couldn't help yourself, you were just that horny huh? So horny you couldn't follow exact orders?

If you were actually enslaved you would have gotten a beating for this. Your orgasms are not under your control, and you exist for the pleasure of other people, your own pleasure doesn't matter. There's not a lot I can do as a internet stranger to inflict discipline however, and I've seen your flattie ass around before, you're just going to get more scared and nervous if I am especially harsh in scolding you.

Instead, pleasure yourself for me again today. Any orgasms you have today, no matter how many you've already had, should be done on the floor, with you leaking out onto that floor only to lick up whatever you spill immediately. Do not disobey me again, slave.

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>>11499537
slaves in this thread should be numbered and use it as their name when posting so we can tell who disobeyed their own promises. how should they be numbered? i think modulo 9999 of the post number.

for example:
lets try to number >>11499214
the modulo 9999 of this post number is: 364
so this is slave 364. the numbers repeat after every 10,000 posts to the board, hopefully that's unique enough.

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>>11499651
I have some of my own systems for numbering slaves. For example the month and day of a slave surrendering if it feels particularly satisfying would be a good one. You can also use other dates to yield a number that feels right. I do enjoy giving that creature orders, should she surrender further I'd assign her a different number, but until then slave 364 is good enough.

It's always going to be limited the suffering a slave can be expected to subject itself to in a thread like this, if I told 364 to run laps around her neighbourhood until she was certain she was exhausted, before coming back to collapse on her floor, would she actually do it? And ordering suffering like that when I don't actually know her living situation isn't responsible.

I expect her to be able to handle gooning on the floor though. This time under a real person's orders, not just a choice by 364's own little mind.

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>>11499303
>you know what nekos are supposed to love
Boxes.
Master, Food, Napping and Boxes, in that order.
At least in my pet's case.

>>11483886
Just call them sex maids instead of slaves and it's legitimate job for young maidens of your desired fantasy races. Also they have self healing powers and robust psyche compared to general humans.

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>>11499656
im sure it is possible to come up with a numbering scheme that describes the age, gender, and time availability of the slave but it would be longer than 5 digits unless you start using higher bases with letters in the number.
and i don't think 7X2WN rolls off the tongue as cleanly as "364"

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>>11499672
If there was a formalized system I can see there being that complex number code you describe that every slave is registered by, but in the database there is also provisions for personal names assigned by it's owner, and numbers are pretty popular for a lot of slaves, getting all that dehumanization without being clunky for a person to say.

slave 364 isn't too bad. I think three digits is a good amount, it implies that there's hundreds just like her, so she's not anything even remotely special something like slave 17 would imply, going up higher than that gets a bit clunky to say all the time. When barking orders at two tools you're going to want to not spend that much time differentiating which specific one you're talking to, especially since numbered slaves are usually the lowest of the low.

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>>11499698
>so she's not anything even remotely special something like slave 17
using the modulo 9999 method it's actually possible to get double and even single digit slave numbers
an example would be >>11488891 (which is not in this thread) which would have the number 40.
maybe it is better to just use the last 3 or 4 digits of the post number instead of modulo. less math.

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>>11499746
Assigning a number to a slave for me is such a weird mixture of very personal yet completely dehumanizing. The fact that I care about a number that feels good to my brain despite that being something I can't really quantify while completely disregarding my slaves feelings on its number is a echo of that too.

Like for example a slave that I captured today would simply be slave 416. April 16th, that's not too hard to figure out and it does feel good. But other numbers in this month don't feel quite right, slave 426, slave 48 or slave 408, stuff like that. So I'd have to subject her to interrogation to figure out a more pleasing number that still matters for her. her birthday doesn't matter too much, but if it could be combined with the numbers of mine in a good way then that would be acceptable. Also major life events, is there a time that she can narrow down that she knew she was destined to live life on her knees? Does she have any history with Master before being bound beneath him? There's a lot to work with there.