>>2983802
So what do I buy? Give me a list of foods I have a 15 metre basement by 5 metre

>>2983802
Nothing ever happens

Interested in seeing where this goes.
>>2983803
What you eat but four times over.

>>2983802
Rock salt or table salt better?

>>2983803
Canned food is pretty shelf stable if stored correctly

In theory 100 year old can food is editable apart from lead seal

>>2983806
Table is iodized, which is an important dietary supplement that you will really not want to go without. The iodine will last 5ish years btw so you may want to rotate your salt if you want the thyroid benefits to remain available. I personally dngaf and only want salt as a spice/preservative/electrolyte.

Looking at some iron nickle batteries that are 50 years old, need to source a steam generator that's wood fired before the winter

>>2983808
What about 15 years atleast? There's no salt mines near me.

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>uses AI slop for the OP image

shameful.

>>2983806
rock salt, because it can be ground down to smaller form if necessary but adheres and lasts longer when used for packing meat.
>>2983807
people sleep on this stuff but generally there is no currently produced canned food that would be good for that long. any older cans were not lined and thus rust through or they use lead solder as you mentioned; both create obvious conditions that can kill you with bacteria.

currently produced cans are lined but that plastic liner leeches into the food over time. if we're talking long, long, long term food storage then glass containers are your #1 best choice. heavy enamel/glazed/sealed clay is a good second choice, so long as the exterior remains intact and no moisture can penetrate/degrade it.

>>2983811
I already make jam I'll have to begin using glass for other stuff, what about rice?

>>2983810
The salt itself will be good forever, it is just a rock after all. The added iodine content is what will fade. Best thing to do is keep it cool, dry, and away from the light.

>>2983803
You'll need rice, sugar, salt, canned food, then spices since they are worth gold

What else?

>>2983813
>iodine
Does it do anything? It's salt why add it??

>>2983812
For dry goods like rice, pasta, oats, and beans look into heavy Mylar bags with o2 absorbers. If done right you'll get a 25 year shelf life. Much lighter weight and less fragile than glass, which is better suited for semi long term use canning such as keeping veggies available through winter until the next harvest.

>>2983812
Rice is a great stable food to store long term. Also works well in glass. If you're storing large amounts there are 5 gallon food-safe plastic buckets with purge lids that can be used to essentially vacuum seal the buckets. I think it's smarter to store in smaller, portable containers rather than one big unit. If any part of that container is compromised the entire lot of food is spoiled. I keep smaller glass jars inside 5 gallon buckets to protect them from breakage, including rice.
Put a small bit of rock salt in the bottom of the jar, fill with rice, and sprinkle a small layer on top as well. Salt will absorb moisture and help prevent bacteria from growing. Moisture absorbing packets work good too.

If you're putting jars inside the 5 gallon buckets, you can just use the cheap Home Depot buckets that are like $2 a piece. Good insurance for a big food supply.

>>2983816
>Mylar
Can I reuse them?

>>2983817

+1 for this, we do the same thing. We had awful, dirty neighbors when we were renters, sealing all our food in those tubs make the pests fuck off. They left permanently when the neighbors moved.

>>2983817
I've seen my neighbour use coke bottles and stacks them against the wall

Wood fire stove or coal? Asking for a fren

Chocolate cannot be trusted right? Even when advised at 99%

>>2983820
Yeah glass is plentiful and if you buy decent pasta sauce it comes in good Mason jars most of the time. Those can be re-used, the most you have to do is buy new seals which are quite cheap from any kitchen or hardware store. For wet stuff you'd use some wax.

I highly recommend investing in a food canning kit, including a large stainless pot, tongs, wax, seals, etc.
It is useful even in the post-nuclear fallout world, you can always make a fire from wood or the bodies of slain communists.

>>2983822
Milk's fat content is what leads to spoilage. Same reason it's hard to freeze-dry foods that are high in fat.

Lard can be kept for years if stored correctly and sealed up tight.

>>2983824
So where do I get non milk coco?

>>2983821
Wood will work forever, coal only works if you've got coal. Coal has to be mined out of the ground unless you live in one of the special places that just has it scattered on a beach - like Alaska. Even then the supply is hit and miss. Trees also re-grow in 5-10 years. Coal takes a few million to form.

>>2983821
Wood unless you live in a barren wasteland

Petrol generator really doesn't seem like an option currently given how much fuel is spoiling currently.

>>65033465
Best rule of thumb is to have both. Gas generators have distinct advantages over solar generators/battery banks. Solar generators are useful for passive/slow charging, they're quiet, and so long as your panels are intact you can always get some sun rays even with cloud cover.

Gas gennies give you instant power, you can "recharge" them in 30 seconds by pouring a few gallons of gas into them, and they have variants that run at full power or smart ones like Honda that cycle down the RPMs to consume less fuel when not needed.

Get the best that you can afford.

>>2983830
And steam?

>>2983831
This would be incredibly based and steampilled, but you're going to need to put aside some money for a tophat, a pet rat, a unicycle, and some striped pants with suspenders too.

>>2983833
I mean you only need a single steam piston water is plenty so firewood is only problem and if its a large iron block abd piston then your good

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>>2983831

>>2983834
Steam's main drawback is that it's basically on-demand and very difficult to "store" energy. A gas generator can self-regulate with a carburettor or EFI, a steam engine cannot. It requires manual intervention and adjustment of temperature and pressure valves, and they were still known for being volatile things when they were commonplace.

Water freezes too, at much warmer temps than gasoline. Best case with steam would be to use it to generate electricity that is stored in battery banks.

If you are looking at a direct-drive system powered by steam you'll also be disappointed by its poor power-return. Typically wood doesn't heat water hot enough to generate very high pressured steam and so you get a weak output - hence why they used coal whenever they could. It burns hotter.

Steam is a fucking retarded idea. Just get gasoline and fuel stabilizer.

>>2983840
Steam is handy if you have a wood fired boiler for heating. You can tap off it and scavenge some of the lost thermal energy. A small scale steam turbine would be quieter than a gasoline engine too.

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Here's a 1 year long term storage list for a family of four. Keep in mind this is purely long term storage, and you should supplement with a prepper pantry setup with at least a couple weeks, but with the goal of 3 month supply on a constant rotation of the foods you eat on a daily basis, which should be done before long term storage. This is purely the basics, but should cover most bases. You can also supplement with Dehydrated foods as listed, as well as other canned foods.

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>>2983848
Part 2, with the dehydrated meals and adding livestock.

lol why was this moved to diy

>>2983895
Hey, Man. It's that mods will.

Since they moved it.

THIS IS WHERE PREPPING LIVES NOT ON /K/ BUT /DIY/ because when people start asking about firearms, brass and we're like of course this belongs in /diy/ how stupid of me.

>>2983815
Yeah, it stops you from developing a goiter as a result of no iodine.

>>2983828
Diesel nigga.

>>2983803
freeze dried food is the best option last forever.

>>2983803
canned food, some jarred/pickled stuff
get sealable buckets & fill them with dry rice, beans, flour, whatever else

>>2983803
Buckets o' beans

>>2983803
dried beans and rice will last you a minute

>>2983824
>Lard can be kept for years
nope

>>2983815
Also increase your HP against radiation. You could probably withstand double the nuclear blast after a course of iodine compared to without it. Magic stuff for prepping

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>>2983803
Your basement is 1.5 times the size of my apartment. Kill me, please. I beg of you.

>>2984764
I use 1% iodine when working cattle to cleanse wounds and prevent infection. I'm assuming a gallon of this stuff would be enough for a hundred years of personal use in a shtf scenario right?

>>2983803
first buy prep stuff you eat
and rotate eat old stuff first
buying food and throwing it away is very bad behavior

ez for start: spaghetti noodles
i still eat of my 14 years old prep and they perfect eatable
they even taste like fresh bought
and i did nothing to extend durability
they simple in the 500g plastic bag i bought them
ignore any best before date and never throw them away.
you can eat them in 30 years

Almost all of my canned food came from the food bank. I have like 12 milk crates of soups and vegetables and beans. Maybe only one crate of meat fish but I can mix those too make a meal.

>>2983805
>What you eat but four times over.
brb filling my basement with hot n ready pizzas and mcdoubles

>>2985765
Honestly they will probably last 20 years without any additional preservation and be as good as the day they were purchased. You did it anon! You're a real deal prepper now!