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I have a plan, I am creating a replica of the winter shotgun coat from rdr2 and wanted to know if my plan to build it would be ok for a coat since I've never made a coat and cant find much information for what I'm looking for.
I will post the crude sketch of the anatomyi have planned for it
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>>18682688
There is much information on the internet about how to make coats of all kinds.
In short, if you want it to actually look good, you're going to have to learn to become a tailor and it's going to take you a long time to learn.
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I think the anon is the one who already made the rdr2 pants, so he should be able to create such a coat.
how much cloth do you have spare? The sleeves are the hardest part, and it might be worth it to experiment with a cheap fabric first, but one that is similar to your actual material so that it drapes similarly
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>>18682688
I'd advise you to give up on gauntlet cuffs if you don't know what you're doing.
Double breasted coat needs a center front dart unless you are a mutant with a concave chest, converesely, the front facing requires dart manipulation to erase the dart.
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>>18683029
yes its me i bought a cheap fabric to experiment patters when i get to that state, i have bought many of the material just waiting for a time in the future when i think its be a good time to start I plan to finish it before winter this year, here is the anatomy I have planned for it.
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>>18683460
im sure i can figure out the gauntlets cuffs
could you provide a visual of what your describing exactly?
This is a pattern I found online that I'm going to use as a base and modify it to make it as close as I can to the actual coat, I have the 3d model of Arthur in the coat and using it as reference for the equivalent proportions to me.
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material i plan on using is: beaver fur, sheep skin, wool batting, hemp batting, cashmere wool felt fabric, cotton canvas, cotton corduroy, linen collar canvas, cotton wrapped polycore thread, thick cotton thread, and thats all that comes to mind. I may be willing to swap sheepskin for something like bison fur if I get the chance but given prices I'm currently sticking to sheep skin.
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>>18683593
I might be willing to swap sheepskin with sheepskin with reindeer fur since I believe I can get more for the price because I would need to buy 2 sheepskin for the coat where I would only need to buy 1 reindeer skin because its bigger, I would just need to learn to dye the reindeer fur brown.
opinions?
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>corduroy as lining
>double layer CASHMERE sandwiching wool
If you're sewing fur then what do you need the canvas for?
Are you mentally ill?
Sewing a coat for an expedition to permafrost?
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>>18683643
Thx anon
>>18683576
Why so many layers?
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>>18683640
I mean, if I look at pictures, I can really just tell a canvas outer and a fur lining. That's plenty warm. Doubling the body with batting AND cashmere wool is just overkill. (Also why expensive cashmere for an inner layer?). And on the sleeves, you want to use FIVE layers. That's ridiculous. Just use a canvas outer and line it with something soft.
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>>18683648
I've never made a coat before so im inexperienced and dont know if one is too much or too little, the arms were going to have more layers because they didn't have fur lining. is there a substitute for the cashmere wool I can use? I chose it because its what I've been lining gloves with. I'm trying to avoid synthetic material and make it somewhat period accurate. to make the batting stay in place and not clump or separate around the inside in the coat i was thinking of sandwiching and quilting it between two fabrics(cashmere) and putting that in-between the coat and lining, would that be a correct method or is there a name for a different method i should do instead?
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>>18683657
Just use normal wool? And why the batting?
>to make the batting stay in place and not clump or separate around the inside in the coat i was thinking of sandwiching and quilting it between two fabrics(cashmere) and putting that in-between the coat and lining
Yeah, but that's just ridiculously complicated and warm and stiff too. I'm not an expert on 19th century american clothing, but I think they mostly just used wool outer with various thin linings. And if they used padded clothing, the quilting would just be visible on the outside.
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>>18683661
I think the problem with lining sleeves is that wool does not slip, so putting it on becomes harder. Sleeves are often lined in smooth material. You might consider lining the sleeves with thin, soft cotton or linen, then maybe sandwich thin wool inbetween for warmth.
Frankly, if you just want somethign for looks... Only line the lapels and collar with fur. Leave the rest unlined. It will be a summer/fall coat, but it will be much easier, cheaper and more comfortable to wear.
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>>18683662
The coat on Arthur is pretty thick and doesn't wrinkle a lot so I assume its stuffed with something warm, it gets cold here so i want it to be a thick winter coat, I was already planning on lining the sleeve with corduroy to make it easier to slip on.
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>>18683673
this one has batting in the arms
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>>18683672
I also recommend not using the batting. canvas-wool-lining should be warm in the sleeves. If you keep the corduroy lining it will also be stiff enough.
Same for the body, but you could use the cashmere there additionally.
Anyway, the pattern you posted is cut very wide usually, to easily wear over a suit. With batting it would probably fit asa single outer layer.
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>>18685031
that coat wasn't that warm, this coat I do want to use it for very cold weather, I want to wear this coat when I visit places that have harsh cold weather so I'm willing to compromise the cashmere wool for a thinner fabric but have wool batting for the arms at least.