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http://www.ausliebezumduft.de/fragrances.html
https://www.jovoyparis.uk/
https://www.lessenteurs.com/
https://bloomperfume.co.uk/
https://lulua.pl/en/
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https://essenza-nobile.de/
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im still very serious about this, what would he wear?
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to the Montblanc anon, I actually tried it again today. last time it seemed a bit boring to me.
I guess I was just noseblind, there is something fruity in there that rounds it out so well. I might just buy a bottle
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>>18683827
drake and taylor swift are popular.
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Blind bought Club de Nuit Intense Man after drinking half a bottle of wine. I knew my skepticism was right because this is a weird frag for me, the tacky flashy bottle was my warning but I still fell for it. The citric opening smells like old lemons, like lemons going bad with a hint of pinneapple, and the drydown doesn't seem smoky and woody enough for me compared to frags like L'Eau D'Issey. Luckily enough, my zoomie cousin was interested in it, so I had him try it and he enjoyed it a lot, gave it to him as a gift.
>>18684042
Wouldn't Le Male EDT be more of a summer spin on Le Male Elixir? Anyways you'll probably enjoy it as the whole JPG lineup is pretty high quality, but Le Beau Paradise Garden is too sweet fuck that frag I hate it
>>18684061
It does make sense since do have the same base generally, the tonka creates some resemblance between them all but anon choose poorly
>SOTD Black Afgano
Holy kino this frag is incredible. I got a decant because I thought it was a meme, it's mysterious and dark, suitable for cold but very easy to pull off in the heat. There's nothing hostile about it for me, it's inviting in it's complexity. Would get a dupe before buying the original though.
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davidoff cool elixir safran mineral
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>>18684061
They're both very sweet with a strong ambery tonka base, you're wrong
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>Le Male EDT
Because of the lavender and mint? I guess you're right but I meant summery in that LBLP is tropical
I should get Le Male though, it's a good frag
>Paradise Garden
It reminds me of Bisch's Kenzo line, that aquatic fig scent profile
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Should fragrances be about self expression or smelling good/attractive? For example I love patchouli-incense notes but they aren’t very mass appealing
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>>18684093
If I had to choose one as universal rule it should be mass appealing. Nothing worse than smelling something vile and disgusting on a stranger while you are just trying to go about your day.
I'm all for unique and interesting fragrances but I believe the ultimate goal of a fragrance is to be worn on skin and to be enjoyed by yourself and others. If you want a extreme scent experience to enjoy sitting at home while you explore each nuance of the scent and the intention of the perfumer knock yourself out. A sensible person understands others around them wouldn't want those "olfactory experiences" imposed on them.
I have both, I have some mass appealing scents I can spray liberally with the understanding that that average person will not be offended. I also have some stuff that is more polarizing that I wear subtly so only I and those too close can experience. Finally I have some stuff I rather enjoy while home alone.
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tried dior sauvage for the first time today
initial impression: something natural/animalic + a fresh soap
1h later: theres a bite about this, a sort of sharpness or sourness (?). this actually kinda makes me horny.
anyone else ever had that experience? im very impressed by dior so far, best designer maybe?
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>>18684120
For a brief period of time when Demachy had full creative control (Leather Oud, Cuir Cannage) they were the greatest. Unfortunately while Sauvage is good its success led to discontinuations, reformulations, and expansion that led them astray. Now with Kurkdjian at the helm there is very little left that is worthwhile. Dior has always been the most experimental of the designers, it had to be since that is their only competitive edge. That leads to a lot of flops but also great heights. Dior gets a bit of undue hate because liking one designer means you have to hate on others to prove your loyalty.
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>NOT SHOWN, THE TWO OTHERS ALSO AWAITING SHIPMENT
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>>18684113
I see, I see. I try and wear goth mostly but because I’m a man I end up going safe just all black boots/jeans/shirt which is honestly too minimalist compared to my music taste, I think wearing dior poison and tom ford black orchid, various patchouli/rose incense type attar oils is way too niche and off putting but I like it and it’s “me”. Meanwhile I can wear a safe fragrance like dior homme parfum or azzaro most wanted edp and get hit on by normie women but it feels fake. Doubling down on your own goth look doesn’t get you girls who are into the same thing and not even girls in general.
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What are some bloomer/hopecore fragrances?
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>>18684113
I am with this Anon. Go for mass appeal but try weird shit. What convinced me and was part of my PdE kick that another Anon got me on was pic related. It is not friendly to anyone in the world except maybe horse girls. This is a horse and a stable in a bottle, which is the reason why it has such a low score. Technically? It's amazing in terms of skill on display. But as a product you'd want to wear? Are you fuckin' high? Thus it will forever sit as a sample in my collection.
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>>18684092
>They're both very sweet with a strong ambery tonka base, you're wrong
By which you mean you read that tonka is a note on fagnautistica and you have tried 3 perfumes in your life so anything "sweet" smells anything else "sweet" to you.
Honestly I'm not surprised given how retarded people on here routinely are.
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>>18684153
Smokey, but as smokey as say, Black Afgano. The ingredients mix together to make a heady scent that is a combination of spice, and wood, and leather. It almost becomes sweet, but not quite. It's for someone refined. You don't wear this and a graphic t. This is working professional, dressing to impress sort of thing. Whatever that might qualify as in your world. It's masculine. It's smells of money. It's strong, but not off-putting. That's why they peg the MSRP at $550, but you can get it for considerably less from known, safe third parties. I've seen Lugxery sell it bottles of it in the high $300's before. Do your research if you're going to buy from a third party because Amouage has so many people selling fakes. Don't even trust the accounts on eBay with hundreds or thousands of reviews unless they're one who has been around forever. I mentioned Lug because he is a long-time trader/seller who has a few bottles of this or that rotate in and out of his store. I bought a bottle of Lyric off him once. He doesn't have any at the moment though.
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>>18684137
Portrait of a Lady is a patchouli/rose/incense and one of my most complimented fragrances. Others actually like it more than I like it myself. I'm always surprised by what people end up complimenting. Shit like Kouros got me compliments, as long as you don't overdo it people can enjoy polarizing fragrances.
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>>18684137
>goth frags
I would say Dior Homme Parfum is pretty goth as far as designer frags go.
You could also try Encre Noire a l'Extreme.
>Poison and Black Orchid are too niche and off putting
They're both fairly popular and appealing frags.
>>18684149
Like a muted, thicker Interlude give or take, dried/charred oregano, bitter cinnamon, thick and somewhat acrid smoke, a bit of frankincense and other assorted resins, and a thick, ambery base like many other Amouage frags.
I find it smokier than Black Afgano, and Interlude Black Iris is more interesting if you ask me.
The vibe's pretty serious and noticeable, someone who takes themself too seriously and wears dark clothes and wants to know they're into frags would wear it.
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>>18684177
And then there is this guy. There's always the Black Iris is better dudes out there, just like there's Cherry Coke lovers. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just noticed there's basically two groups of people "53 is better than Interlude, but it's fucking expensive" and "I like Black Iris more than either." Either way, I think he should definitely sample both. It can't hurt.
That said, I do disagree on the Black Afgano not being smokier remark. One of us wrong or my bottle of Black Afgano is suspiciously smokey because, damn, was I surprised by just how smokey it is and stays as long as you can smell it.
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>>18684130
so far I think they are by far still the leading designer. this is based on trying some of their bigger ones. DHS, DHI, Sauvage.
also, Eau Sauvage seems to be a bit of an oddball. I have not seen a single store have these yet and on ebay I can just find very few offerings, all brand new from retailers.
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>>18684094
>Beaufort London
Tonnerre, Iron Duke, Terror & Magnificence, Fathom V, Vi Et Armis
>Bortnikoff
Moss Cologne, Musk Cologne, Siberia
>Francesca Bianchi
Etruscan Water, Black Knight, Dark Side
>Nasomatto
Silver Musk, Black Afghano, Duro
>Pineward
Literally all of them
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>tfw fell for the pde meme
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Dior and Hermes are the best of the big designers nowadays I think
Chanel only releases extremely boring stuff in their mainline and their private line is extremely expensive
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>>18684205
My femboy bf is 5'4". Unless Dad there is in the solid 6 foot somethings, his son is small as shit. I say this as someone who has a brother that married a chick that's 5'2" and looks to be approximately the same height if that guy is as tall as me. Since he's not scraping the door frame, I am assuming we're at least in the same range of height.
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>>18684145
i might have been that another anon and yes, i would wear this a lot (were it not so expensive)
>>18684192
>most autistic but in the best way possible fumes
L'Iris de Fath Parfum
artisan stuff from Sultan Pasha/AbdesSalaam Attar/etc.
any small batch oud/musk frag
>>18684201
yeah, don't buy PdE, they are overrated and smell like shit (def not buy it at discounters, they are no good fr no cap)
>>18684212
>hermes
yes
>dior
no
>guerlain
the classics are good
>chanel
boring
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>Ultra Male EDT gets discontinued
>local perfumery is selling 125ml bottles at a pretty decent price
>but it's also selling AFNAN 9pm at a reduced price too
I'm actually conflicted bros.
Should I get the OG or the clone?
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>>18684263
shit, it was released in 2021
yes, it's good
>>18684265
imo hermes is way better (both heritage and current frags)
eau sauvage, fahrenheit, dh(o) and dhp getting neutered sends dior automatically to the back of the list
(ymmv ofc)
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>>18684252
If so, I thank you. My Immortelle Corse showed up today, coincidentally.
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>>18684298
hermes
>H24+both flankers (all great)
>Eau de Basilic Pourpre (fucking awesome)
>Un Jardin à Cythère (polarizing but i love it)
dior
>Sauvage Elixir
guerlain
>Habit Rouge Spirit (is this mainline? i tested in a dept store so probably yes)
>Mitsouko EDT (i have the '21 version but yeah, it's a stretch)
chanel
>Bleu de Chanel L'Exclusif (debatable)
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>>18684134
off the top of my head, Pony Boy, Riveselium (although not listed), Nudiflorum, Encelade and Cockatiel have a lot of rhubarb in their opening. i'll agree it's uncommon, but tbqh it's not a note that really works for me
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i made up my mind. explorer smells great but its gone after 3 hours, fuck that.
sauvage is not much better.
ill get a small decant of Sauvage and see how far Allure Homme carries me this summer.
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you're welcome
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>>18684061
>the only connection of elixir and le beau is the company that makes them
Honestly, a fascinating thing to read. To me, all jpg scents smell extremely similar. I assumed these perfume makers are starting with a base formulae and then tweaking it depending on their goal, especially with these designer houses where everything is just branding. That’s why you hear people say “yea this is an interesting spin on the Valentino DNA” or “this is a strong tobacco honey version of the classic jpg smell”. Do you think the notes lists are literal or something?
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>>18684402
>I assumed these perfume makers are starting with a base formulae
lmao yeah they contract a new perfumer that comes with their own ideas, and they also want to maximize the money they make by chasing the current trends but they set a strict rule to use the same 'base formula' because 'we're JPG we always start with the same base'
>That’s why you hear people say “yea this is an interesting spin on the Valentino DNA”
First time discovering people say retarded things?
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>>18684113
>is fashion about self expression or looking appealing
>if I had to choose I would say looking appealing. No one wants to have to look at your personal favorite colors, we don’t want that inflicted upon us. I’m all for personal choice and freedom, but just wear what the group wants when you’re in public. Put on the uniform.
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>>18684407
>you think the cologne I bought at my local Macys is some kind of branded product owned by a mega corporation that makes all the decisions and has all the power?!?! Lmao ok dude
Yes, and I think you’re clearly a rube if you think otherwise. These are not handcrafted products, they are someone like L’Oréal licensing a fashionable name to push the most appealing smells in people’s faces over and over… with derivations just small enough to make them consider another purchase. That’s EXACTLY what the term “designer fragrance” means.
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anyone tried this?
https://www.parfumo.de/Parfums/arabiyat-prestige/marwa
imagination clone for like 50 bucks with raving reviews. seems too good to be true as always. I havent bought a single clone yet but the amount of 8,9,10 star revies is a bit high
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>>18684408
There is far more self expression in fragrance than there is in fashion. Each fragrance smells distinct from each other, every single outfit is just the same with different colors. People do wear a uniform. Pants and shirts.
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GUYS. JOMA WENT FULL RETARD AGAIN, THIS TIME ON SERGE LUTENS.
LIMITED QUANTITIES. GET YOUR SHIT NOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING HERE YOU WANT.
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l'orpheline, d'armoise, and la religeuse secured
Too bad they didnt have iris silver mist
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I just got French Avenue's Zenith vanilla delivered.
I would say it's very good, it's a mix of Tonka Cola, alcohol like Bentley Intense and some piss in the middle - I'm not sure what the piss note is but I like that it's different than the other things I have in this family of cola scents.
I also got their clone of Pacific Rock Moss which they call Ravine Ice and fair enough, it's a lemony thingy that's like a thousand other fresh lemony thingies even if not exactly like one of those. Shouldn't have been influenced on this. But it's cheaper than my varvatos lemon thingy and maybe my most appropriate scent for peak summer.
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>>18684091
>mineral
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>>18684402
>all jpg scents smell extremely similar
The first and most likely reason that comes to mind is you're not very good at discriminating scents.
>this is an interesting spin on this DNA
Some of these may be accurate, for example I believe many Amouage frags have the same thick ambery base and most SL frags have the same sticky-feeling elemi base.
Some may be largely caused by the fact that the bottles look similar and the names are similar, so without the ability for fine(r) scent discrimination those are the factors that will play the biggest role in scent perception.
>>18684408
If someone in the same room as me looks hideous I can just not look, but if someone smells hideous it's impossible to avoid, so I think a consideration of what others might find foul and unpleasant should be made.
>>18684488
>men's clothing is so limited, we only have pants and shirts, while women have so many options
You should lurk for two more years before posting again of /fa/ (but lurk anywhere else).
>>18684639
I found Ravine Ice to be foul, one of those clones that make you think clones are all terribly bad, a massy ozonic sage and citrus top over somewhat soapy musk.
Have you smelled the real PRM?
>my most appropriate scent for peak summer
I recommend you try Acqua di Sale, or the Rayhaan clones of the popular LV freshies if you're very passionate about clones.
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whats the (your) perfume equivalent of the final one and a half minutes of "Coldplay - Warning Sign" (it makes you cry every single time)?
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>>18684680
I don't like Imagination at all, it makes me sick actually. Haven't found the rest of their stuff anywhere to try.
I have other summer fragrances, but this is almost purely citrus with little sweetness and something vaguely clean in the background. It's what you want when it's almost 45 and anything sweeter becomes annoying but anything lighter washes off you through sweat (like Eau Givree or Eau de Rochas, they are also amazing for peak heatwave but really don't last at all so you just feel like you wore nothing).
I haven't tried the original Pacific Rock Moss, I don't think I would be blown away, it's not the quality or anything that makes me feel meh about this, it's that all scents like this get a meh from me.
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>Serge Lutens also just hit Fragrancenet
>Chergui for $18 dollars
I'm not complaining, but also, what the fuck is going on? They haven't carried anything but their travel sprays for like a year.
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Im getting the Eros Najim today, anyone ever tried it? it just sticks to your skin i can smell it even 48 Hours later
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Blind bought Tabac Exquis after getting Pour in Homme. It's really god damn good. Lasted all morning and into the evening (granted, I did 5 sprays). I am not sure why they named it Tabac Exquis though because there really isn't much tobacco in there. Still excellent, IMO. Going to see if there is anything else I want to cop from Caron.
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>SOTD: Mugler Cologne
it's great, green+citrus+musk as advertised, i love the bottle (the come together name/brand is no more), you can get it for 50 eurobucks, okay performance, big like
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>>18684947
Very nice.
Today I'm wearing Ralph Lauren Romance for Men, it's very nostalgic to me. Reminds me of wearing Kenneth Cole Black when I was younger. It's a peak y2k fresh summer scent.
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How much of a discount would one expect to get for a used perfume bottle? This dude is selling a barely used Zara Sunrise on the Red Sand Dunes Intense on a frag groupchat I'm in for 25% off of a new one but it's kinda cheap enough already that I could just get a new.
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Some herbal cream my gf got in her makeup lootbox that gets delivered every month
>>18684898
I tried Eros Energy and Eros Najim once, never been a fan of the Eros family because the bottles scream flashy and tacky for my taste just like JPG (though I did buy Ultra Male kek), but I enjoyed both frags a lot. Energy is a citric bomb, with photo-realistic lemon and orange juice, and Najim is an interesting spicy warm frag but be careful if you already have another warm spicy as it's not revolutionary.
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>>18684987
>25% off of a new one but it's kinda cheap enough already that I could just get a new.
it would have to be a very trusted source. otherwise id just go with a new bottle 9 times out of 10 that you know wont be tampered with
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Literally no frag is good enough for me
I've tried tons of them and none of them have the "wow" factor for me
I want something addictive that feels great catching the drydown throughout the day but I just can't find THE frag
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>rose oud
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It's not good. I am so disappointed. The musk and the leather don't blend together at all, bouncing off one another more than anything. And there isn't enough sweetness to bring them together.
This could have been an all-timer.
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>>18685001
Try more frags, it's the only way to find your fave.
>>18685081
I was REALLY wow'd by trying Casbah and especially Ambre Nuit eaudp for the first time.
Some frags might just be that closely aligned to your own taste.
Sycomore and BR540 wow'd me after a number of times smelling them, it just depends on the frag.
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>>18685001
I thought designer frags would be mostly this but every now and then there's something that positively surprised me while testing, like Eros Energy being a citrus nuke, Ultra Male growing on me, you have to keep trying stuff. But I noticed that if I start building it up in my head it ends up being disappointing, so you gotta lower your expectations a bit. Did that for Black Afgano(as I mentioned in >>18684080) and it blew me away, fantastic frag and I'm saving my decant for a special occasion now. Another cool thing that happened is that I have found some frags that match my vibe immensely, so looking in a sea of possibilities and combinations and identifying yourself with something specific is nice.
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>>18685093
I want to believe this can be salvaged. I am thinking either by mixing two frags together, or using sourced ingredient(s) to fuck around and fix it. It's a 100ml bottle, I just need to look through my collection and determine what I think will get this to where it ought to be and go from there because it really should be fantastic. How they fucked this up, I don't know.
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Sotd Kenzo Homme edt
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SOTD: Gucci Guilty Absolute
get this and Gucci Guilty Cologne Pour Homme while you still can, both are great frags
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>>18685159
>it wasn't your first time smelling them
I'd certainly smelled other frags featuring rose, amber, incense and/or angelica root, but it was my first time smelling those frags, and while Casbah is similar enough to other incense frags Ambre Nuit is pretty unusual in its mix of airy rose and amber.
>you can't form a scent impression without a frame of reference
Did you recently come back from your first neurophysiology 101 class?
I can't imagine what else would give you the confidence and conceit to write this sort of vague drivel.
Either you never smelled anything before stepping into the local sephora, or you do have a frame of reference regardless.
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>>18685283
I don't know why the concept of a scent memory infuriates you to the point of a feeble attempt at a personal attack. Fragrances are not that unique, all of them share similarities. If you ever smell something truly novel you will naturally recoil. If you're getting wowed by a fragrance you are revisiting a common scent memory.
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>>18685287
>a feeble attempt at a personal attack
No, that was a perfectly reasonable way to ridicule your ridiculous and vague post.
>you can't get wow'd while testing different frags, you have to have tried something already for it to wow you
>frags are not that unique, so if something wow'd you the first time you tried it you must have already smelled something that had something in common with it
Do you see how these two points you made contradict each other?
>smelling something truly novel will make you recoil
>a strong positive reaction to a smell is necessarily caused by the smell awakening a memory
The source is your neurophysiology 101 class?
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>>18685335
You're really overthinking it. Everyone agrees scent is tied to memory. You're not smelling a popular, often imitated, fragrance for the first time. You're not smelling incense for the first time either. I'm really surprised you're being so obtuse and defensive about obvious facts.
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>>18685363
im going to force you to use fahrenheit
>>18685389
hermann is good, though
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>>18685363
speaking of fahrenheit
why hasn't anyone taken and old bottle, put it through gcms and recreated it (or made it more gasoline-y) yet?
I remember hearing about two arab clones a while back but I've got no clue on what they were like
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>>18685355
>a strong positive reaction to a smell is necessarily caused by the smell awakening a memory
>actually I just meant that scent is tied to memory I don't know how you can disagree
So you ignored everything I posted and made up something to refute instead.
>scent is tied to memory
Memory is tied to every sense.
What you might have learned if you had paid more attention in neurophysiology 101 is that the deep brain structures that underlie smell and memory trace indexes are located close to one another, so smell is the sense that evokes memories most strongly, but this has nothing to do with evaluation or appreciation of smells.
Instead you seem to be making vague things up as you go.
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>>18685456
You simply spoke about a contradiction that wasn't a contradiction, your rambling is impossible to follow. You have gone so far off the rails you're actually agreeing with everything I said but saying it in the way that soothes your dissonance while acting like you're refuting what I said. I have stated simple, concrete, ideas, nothing vague about them. You even agree with them.
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>>18685467
More the latter, I tried their Aqua Fahrenheit clone and found it too strong and too synthetic with an overpowering tanning lotion effect. It smells more like a product with scent added to cover up something else than it does a perfume.
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Everyone's always arguin' about Green Irish Tweed this or Cool Water that but I'm over here sayin' Fougere L'Aube playa!
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