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ENGINEERS EDITION
What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bick4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them
How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush
>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.
>Are Thursdays any good?
no.
Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia
Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels
Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east
>Blkbrd
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My buddy has a birthday coming up, he's a carpenter who wears shit-tier boots into the ground; His boots get dirty from drywall and other workplace shit so he doesn't want to spend a lot on boots which I totally get but I think he'd see the benefits if he got some quality ones. Any reccomendations for affordable, quality work boots for me to subsidize?
I was looking at the Frank's Patriot or something like the Nicks BuilderPro. The Patriot looks really good aside from the roughout lower, I know it's common on workboots but I think it would be harder to keep it clean than smooth leather. I think he prefers the look of classic heeled boots but the Red Wings Moc wedge sole might be an option too, he'd be able to try them on in since we have a Red Wings store close by. Any advice would be appreciated anons.
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Why do people still wear PNW clunkers? I've owned some Wesco engineers, Whites 350 cutters, and Viberg 310s, and they all kind of suck compared to jap stuff. All of the soles are fucking massive, they're absurdly heavy, and generally the finishing and clicking is mediocre. I would understand if you are actually riding motorcycles or hiking through the woods regularly, but if you are wearing PNW boots for fashion without actually putting them through at least some moderate activity, you are probably retarded. This shit is not fashionable at all. If you are not an active person, you need to sell your PNW boots and buy something dressier to match your actual lifestyle
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>that will be $1,080 plus tax
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>>18694564
This you?
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>>18694564
>I would understand if you are actually riding motorcycles or hiking through the woods regularly
How do you know we're not? Who the fuck are you?
Anyway, I love my MPs, they're the perfect boot to me. Rugged and tough, but still sleek enough that I don't feel like I'm wearing big tanks on my feet
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>>18694585
because nobody else is posting boots retard, including you
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>saar
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>>18694549
Was also thinking the RW Moc would be good. Comfy sole, durable and hard wearing enough for carpentry work that doesn't require a steel toe
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>>18694632
That's what I was thinking, thanks bros.
>>18694647
I know that much. I wasn't going to buy him boots outright, I was planning on giving him cash enough to cover the purchase and strongly encouraging him to get proper boots.
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Screencap’d because trvthnvke
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>>18694593
lmaoing hard at these butthurt amerimutts
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No I have a pair just like that, same color but roughout. They got the same obnoxious crease. Problem is that there’s no way to fix it, I think. My loafers also have creases but – quite the contrary – they look good. They’re light and evenly spread and do not resemble a huge eye-shaped groove.
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Thinking of retiring the iron rangers. They were my first pair of quality shoes and I've walked hundreds of miles on them but they're too bulky for my taste nowadays and they fit in that weird spot between shoe and actually tall boot.
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>>18694749
Shoe trees do absolutely nothing for that. The crease is formed as you walk and drive. Shoe trees do not revert the process of creasing. Furthermore, if they’re so big that they actually puff out the leather of your shoes they’re going to ruin those shoes forever. Shoe trees make sense only as moisture absorbers.
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>>18694749
When are we going to stop parroting this nonsense that shoe trees do anything to prevent creasing?
The ONLY time they do anything for creases is when they're physically in the shoe and that's because they're filling the volume of the shoe. The second you take the tree out the creases are back
Your foot flexes as you walk. Leather creases and moves with it. If you don't like creases don't wear leather.
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>>18694778
I literally cannot get my cowboy boots off without it.
Still remember when I was in the store trying them on and my wife had to help pull them off and I nearly threw out my back just trying to get the damn things off because I had no idea what a boot jack was or how they worked
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>>18694790
how? even the pair that were slightly too small weren’t that hard to get off
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>>18694760
Everyone's entitled to their opinion
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I'm afraid you're kinda shit out of luck anon, they're my father's cowboy boots from the 80s/90s that I had painted black and resoled. They were originally a very faded brown that had almost patina'd to a faint olive color. They were made by a brand called "the Wehrmacht group" or "Wehrmacht original boots" but I can't find much info on them, probably defunct.
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>>18694789
NTA but PNW boots are kind of ridiculous and the original point made by >>18694564 actually has some truth to it. They’re not awful boots or anything and are obviously super durable and robust, but in a fashion sense they are just too big from their massive soles, and if you aren’t someone with an active lifestyle and you’re just wearing a pair of Whites in a city you just look retarded. People who aren’t really outdoorsy should be wearing something more refined. You don’t necessarily have to get a pair of $1500 Japanese boots, but even a pair of Trumans or Grant Stone would be more appropriate for such a person.
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>but in a fashion sense they are just too big from their massive soles
because you're wearing skin tight latex pants you prancing la la homoman. normal men wear straight cut and they look fine
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>>18694917
Bro even if you are wearing wide cuts, a PNW boot is so blatantly huge and dense. It looks proportionally more natural to wear straight/wide cuts with a normal sized or even narrow-toed pair of leather footwear.
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>>18694945
Here bruv
https://shoegazing.com/2024/12/22/buyers-guide-european-workwear-boot- brands/
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>>18694920
not true at all
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>>18694978
with the boss its a full length vibram outsole versus the dr sole half sole
both should be that MP last with the slightly squared off round toe
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>>18694986
I'm genuinely torn over what engineers to get for my first pair. The Mr Lou checks all my boxes, but I don't know if it's worth it to shell out more for the Japanese brands
I wish Almost Vintage Style still had his channel. The dude was insufferable but when it came to reviews he was really good
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>>18694988
i personally definitely prefer my bosses over my lofgrens, the stiffners in the toe and the heel pocket is a lot more noticeable in the lofgrens and they're just way less comfortable because of that. i'm personally not one to go over boots with a microscope and nitpick shit but i don't think the lofgrens were worth the extra ~300 over the bosses for me for the
>boots :|
>boots j a p a n :)
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>>18694988
It depends on how autistic you are. Personally I am hyper autistic about whether the boots have very nice horsehide clicking, handwelting, a perfectly carved woodsman heel, etc.. I sold my Wescos and John Lofgrens and splurged on some Role Clubs which have always been a grail piece of mine and they are without a doubt the best boots I’ve ever worn. A lot of people will tell you it’s not worth it, but in my experience it was 1000% worth it since I got a pair that in my opinion has a better looking design but is also a perfect fit. I’m not telling you that you need to spend as much money as I did on boots, but i do think that the overall level of quality and experience you get from spending more on engineer boots does actually scale with the price. It is objectively better if you can get a pair made to measure since it’s kind of difficult finding a ready to wear pair that fits your feet well enough. If I was willing to spend $800-2000 on another pair of engineers, my preferences in order from most to preferred to least preferred would be:
>Unsung House (arguably the best pair of engineers on the market. M2M, perfectly designed, top tier leathers, handwelted, etc)
>Clinch
>Briselblack (heavily underrated)
>Zerrows
>Attractions
Everyone has different opinions about the Wescos. They’re good boots, but they weren’t something I was really into. If you care about having top tier finishing, clean stitching, beautiful clicking, close to a perfect fit, or perfectly carved heels, then you might want to look elsewhere. If you plan on exposing your boots to regular physical activity then a pair of Wescos is a great option
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>>18694947
this is what 750 eurodollars gets you
>immaculate clicking
>precise stitch work
>awsomely thin heel caps and soles- light and dressy, going outside is cringe larping anyway, you don't need more rubber than this, stop pretending
>puckering of the uppers at the toes- testament to the hand lasted craft and an element of tasteful ruggedness
>heels trimmed to the stitches- tight as fuck, also practical weight reduction
>the design of the quaters combines angles AND curved lines- refined and visually unique
>unbevelled sole edges- beutifully geometric boxy shape
literally who even does a hand lasted, handstitched boot in america for ~$750 that would be better than this? nothing comes to mind honestly
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It's basically paper thin fabric and you heat it up and shape it while it's not. It can be as bulbous and structured as you want
You pretend it's like this thick ass piece of plastic that comes in pre cut size or something
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What's even the target audience for a shoe like that? Ghetto niggas won't buy it because they shop by brand alone and anyone pulling up while wearing these will get laughed at for not wearing Jordans. The people buying goodyear welted shoes are usually into workwear and they wouldn't touch sneakers with a ten foot pole. The guys that both know about goodyear welting and wear sneakers would rather wear """""""dress"""""""" sneakers and not whatever the fuck this is.
Seriously, who the fuck is this made for? Is it made for the one in a million ascended hood nigga that would be like "dayum I want these sneakers cuh but the quality isn't there know whamsayin."
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>>18695860
Met-guards aka metatarsal guards.
Buncha fake bootfags ITT, I swear.
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>>18696013
I had a pair of Sperrys that lasted years. I finally tossed them after they were completely trashed. For 100 bucks or whatever they cost back then I'd say i got great use out of them
I have some Rancourts now that I got on a huge sale but I can't honestly say they're that much better than the Sperrys. Hell, I'd say the Sperrys were more comfortable.
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The brown ones
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>>18695931
these >>18694571 have caught a ton of attention the few times I've worn them so far
also >>18694578 just based on the fact that they're thicc ass work boots
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just learned i have a local bootmaker (basically just an old mexican dude and his son) who build custom traditional cowboy boots
only question is what leather should i go with?
>snakeskin
>caiman/gator/croc
>stingray
not a fan of ostrich generally, and absolutely hate those ugly fucking fish "leather"
elephant sounds cool but elephants are bros and not exactly sold on the fact that they wouldn't come from some sus source or something idk just doesn't quite feel right
wut do?
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Would go with the caiman or croc personally. I just don't like the look of snakeskin, and don't know enough about stingray. If the elephant leather comes with a CITES certification it's legit and was harvested without poaching. If you ask about and they can't talk about that, it probably came from poaching or is fake.
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>>18697513
Elephant would only come from a sus source.
All those leathers are finicky and annoying to maintain: Snake is too fragile; I don't see stingray holding up over time and would look like real shit if it got beat. Some kind of crocodillian would make the most sense.
I'm curious about shark, but again one of these stupid leathers that are hard to maintain. I suppose cowboy boots are meant to be flashy so go whatever looks nicest.
If I were a rich americanian I'd get some black and white snake boots "because", and white linen suit. And a silverbelly stetson,
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Whats the female holy grail leather boot? What about warmer weather half shoes? What about zero plastic options?
I've been trying to find a pair of shoes for every season/occasion thats made from all natural materials but so far I haven't had much luck. Do I have to go all ancient and start making my own full leather moccasins or wooden clogs or how's that going to go down?
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>>18698217
You can go the made to measure route, find MTM a shoe/ bookmaker and they'll make it for your size.
I think the issue with asking for a grail boot for women is that there is no grail boot for men either, everyone has their own grail boot and that is something you should determine yourself the exact style you want. You can list them here if you want to.
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Style is secondary to be honest, I mainly care about there not being any plastic soles or other materials that aren't leather/wood/metal/wool/cotton/linen and that seems to be rather hard to find. I did find some MTM options online but the delivery fees are exorbitant and so far I didn't feel like pulling the trigger on 70 bucks on top of the shoe just to get them to me.
Ofc ideally I'd want them to be aesthetic too but I feel like they can't really not be aesthetic if they are handmade from nice materials so it's not my main focus.
I guess I'll keep searching. I think my next step will be make some felted slippers to wear inside.
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>>18698217
Have to agree with >>18698248. The only time I knew a woman to care about this stuff is when one of my exes wanted properly made, all leather, dressage boots. There's just not a good market for women's footwear that's constructed well. Carmina would be the only recommendation I could give, but honestly a lot of companies will cheap out on the women's line and I don't really know if they build them to the same spec as the men's line.
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>>18698359
You're BOTH wrong
Traditional engineer boots have no zippers but "modern" engineer boots sometime have zippers
Either way op = gay faggot. 'Tis known
sage
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Can anyone ID these boots?
Multiple AI's telling me its the Blundstone 1911 Tobacco Brown, except from google images and the website they look like a much darker brown.
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>>18698313
Yeah, I've stumbled across them. I actually already got all the leather working tools together but I still have to source nice leather. Was thinking about getting that cheap sheep skin from the thrift store and use that for practice. Might be nice for warm winter slippers with the fur turned inwards.
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>>18699063
maybe blundstone 1615
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>>18698663
How casual do you want it and what's your budget? I also don't like chukkas. Aside from the r/mfa connotation, it just feels like it's in this weird spot where it's not casual or dressy, especially if it's in a smooth leather.
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>>18699319
What's wrong with LARPing? Fun things are, as they say, fun.
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>>18699120
I'm not really sure for the casualness aspect. For reference my other boots are Numzaans, Razorbacks, and Luosjiet Indy's. I suppose I'm generally fond of the service boot look. Preferably with a defined heel instead of a wedge, but willing to try new things. Price range ideally not more than $400.
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>>18699775
>1. You're wearing the wrong boots for that uniform.
Jackboots were still worn well into the late war.
>2. That's a poor repro of the pants
There's a reason why I bought cheap, generic boots.
>3. You're a yurofaggot
It can't be helped.
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G&G boots are done. Will post them when they arrive. They're an urban commando in black English grain that I got to be office boots for bad weather so I'll really be looking forward to wearing them more in winter.
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There's a porker in gyw that has hundreds of pnw boots and it's probably over 100k USD down the drain since it's pretty much Funko pops collecting at this point.
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I'm thinking my work boots are too cooked to be worn out with my outfit. What color Blundstones do you guys think would go best with these colored jeans objectively?
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These look pretty good actually
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>>18700838
Jeans + oxfords is unironically a cheat code for looking stupid. It's a fucking meme in the UK. Also those shoes are ugly.
>>18700835
I'm not gonna lie, that looks kind of cool. You're like the croc man.
>>18700840
Ultra boring, which is worse than being gay.
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I'm gonna do it
I'm gonna order the knockoff tabis from a pakistani cobbler with 2 reviews on etsy
I'm going to convince myself I can pull them off because I'm European
I'm not going to be scammed
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unless a boot/shoe does handwelted/channeled insole construction, everything is the same as far as process goes for GYW shoes.
A $2k pair of Edward Green shoes or a $800 pair of Crockett and Jones or a $300 pair of Red Wings is still built the same
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no?
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>Not owning just one pair of Dr Shitter Crazy Horse Leather
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>>18703149
they always were the worst place to get CXL
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bruh
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Kek
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>>18703909
The part of making boots where they cut the leather to then be lasted (made to fit a foot shape). Leather isn't a perfectly consistent material, poor clicking may have different grain patterns or weakspots or just look different between left & right boot.
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>>18703909
Not all parts of a hide are good and usable. "Clicking" is the process of cutting around the good parts and not using the unsuitable parts
Wolverine is absolutely notorious for their bad clicking. They will make an entire boot out of the throwaway pieces and charge a premium for it
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I bought a pair of the Viberg engineers they released last spring and I think I've worn them three times. The 2000 last fits pretty well on me but not quite as well as the 2030. Overall I think engineers are pretty cool but I can't decide if the style just isn't for me, if I prefer to wear pairs that fit even just a little better, or a combination of the two.
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Looking to buy Engineer boots from Nicks in the color similar to the one on the right on this image, same color as this image basically >>18694563
Is it called brown XCL?
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My Blundstone 585s ended up being the boots I wear the most since I tend to baby the more expensive ones but I feel like there are no brown belts that match the leather on these, should I just wear a black one
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>good
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Cry bitches. And they're not uncomfortable, not sure where that meme came from
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>>18707997
doc martens were absolute shitters for decades already, but now they rebranded themselves as fast fashion for women too, good choice
as far as trend chasing you're a year late
i don't know why you even bother ironing a crease in these pants, when they look cheap from a mile away
the overlock stitch on these is the same quality as on disposable patient gowns
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Another shot showing the sole. Maybe the chevron is a giveaway?
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>>18708418
My first thought was really worn Red Wing Blacksmiths but the counter is wrong, all eyelets, and the soles are Vibram 700s. You could get close with the blacksmiths if you dyed the edging and stitching black, which is very easy. If you need something closer you can look for a black service boot/boondocker. If you want it to wear into a brown/natural like those look for "teacore" leather, but if it's advertised with that it's probably going to be expensive because it's usually geared towards boot nerds.
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Whites is gonna do a collab with the James Dean estate. Wonder what it will be
Probably some engineer or harness boots like he wore in Rebel Without a Cause
I'm actually hype since I've always been a Dean fan and a Whites fan
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>>18708573
I would guess something with an unstructured toe and single stitch
>>18708709
Whatever you do, don’t get their oxfords
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hopefully something better than the red wing x steve mcqueen collab
>regular 875 with black wedge, even though mcqueen wore 877
>costs $100 more just for some embossing
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i love my 5.11 boots with the side zip. i wear them everywhere. maybe next time i should get the waterproof one with the zip. lots of people like to complement them but that's probably cuz if i was a guy then i'd give off too many cop particles or something
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Bottom pic looks like the elastic of a chelsea boot
Now I'm hella intrigued but it's it actually is a chelsea for some reason I will skip this one
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>>18709596
>engineer without the instep strap/ westbale with a top strap
>black pebble grain leather, probably horween montana
>leather sole with james dean signature embossed at the ball, that will wear away instantly
who tought that the sole was a good idea?
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>>18710957
And these from Meermin. Unless you guys have other recs. I checked Scarosso, but not sure I really dig them. I kinda prefer the Velasca out of these two. Not sure if blake stitch would be worse than goodyear welted, or actually better in the case of loafers. I kinda wanted something more out there, but I'll just stick to a basic loafer look.
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Also, how do you like your trousers to look with loafers? People usually do no break on the pants, but I feel like a medium break with a wider non tapered trousers would be better. I'm tall and skinny and don't want to look like a pencil neck nerd showing my ankles with tapered trousers.
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>>18710958
I have two pairs from TLB that I really like, they usually do a couple sales a year and can be gotten under $300, presumably same for euro if VAT isn't fucking you. I have a pair coming from Carmina, same thing got them on sale, but can't recommend yet until they arrive.
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>>18710981
Right? This is what I want, but this one tailor told me I'm wrong.
>>18710972
Both of those look great for sure. Not sure I have time to wait for a TLB sale. inb4 I buy the Velasca pair and TLB go on sale a week later.
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>>18710957
Iunno bro I just ordered these. Just one less thing to stress about. Free shipping and returns if the size isn't right too and they're on sale. Fuck it these are the ones. Need to build the remaining parts of my wedding outfit.
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stridewise hails himself as some menswear authority, but he looks like complete shit in every single thing he wears. he has no clue how to dress. his advice is always terrible. and he's scared to death to wear anything that isn't blue, white, grey, black, etc.
he lifts weights so he's got this weird shaped body yet still wears slim clothing, but when he tries to wear looser stuff he just looks goofy
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>>18711237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g7vJYM4408
what the fuck are these prices though?
$700+? even for high end cobblers this is a $450-500 job max
>jr soles+new heels ~$250
>rewelt+deco stitching ~$150
>lulu toe plates ~$50
for his price you'd expect blind stitching at least
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>>18711999
>$700+? even for high end cobblers this is a $450-500 job max
then send it to them. he charges that because he can and he wont blind stitch unless the customer requests it
hes good, knows it and charges accordingly
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Is Double H still a good brand for basic beater ropers? I don't need something made out of some Japanese monks ball skin folded over 9000 times, just some study boots that will last a little longer than my Ariat shitters.
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>>18712585
The longer I look at those James Dean boots the more I like them. I love pull-on boots, my Pecos ropers are my favorite boots right now
Only Whites last I have experience with is the MP which is basically a perfect fit for me. How does the 55 compare?
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>>18712610
My arches are sky high and so is my instep so I think the 55 would be good for me.
I'm getting too old for things like Vans or Adidas or whatever anymore. I need proper arch support of my feet end up hurting
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>>18712594
The 55 is more snug through the heel than the Pecos and broader through the forefoot. It tapers, but not as much as the Pecos. I cant speak for the instep bc I only have one 55 last boot and its a lace up.
Personally I much prefer the look and feel of the 4811 for lace ups, and for pull ons I just go thru Wesco or Attractions. Though if I did one from Whites it would be the 1977 last as they recently redesigned the nomad and cykel to grip the heel better.
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>>18712643
I actually have narrow heels. Narrow heels, sky high arches and instep, slightly wide toe box.
Sizing is actually a crapshoot most of the time which is why when I find a last that works I usually get more than one pair, which is why I have two pairs of MPs
Best last for me personally that I own is the Alden Trubalance last. That shit feels like it was made with me in mind
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>>18712674
Everything I've seen or read says they're good quality for the price, but take a long time to actually receive. As long as you don't need them right away I'm sure they a great option
I looked at some pairs myself but never pulled the trigger
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>>18713291
I have them and I don't like them. They're too bulky and heavy and have little in common with actual "barefoot" shoes. They attract dust and dirt like no other boot I ever had, I practically have to clean them before every wear.
I tried to sell them but literally nobody wants them.
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>>18701182
>Jeans + oxfords is unironically a cheat code for looking stupid.
I was going to write an angry comment thinking you meant OCBDs, but then realized I was in a boot thread and it was oxford shoes. Agreed. OCBDs are great with dark wash jeans though. You can even pair them with a boot (medium formality, not too formal, not too chunky)!
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Picked up the RDT Stan boots today, got the last pair they had in my size. These are the first pair of "expensive" boots I've gotten.
In hindsight I guess I would've been fine just ordering online instead of taking a long trip to the store to check the sizing since multiple sources say that you need to size down 1-2 sizes. But the fit is perfect, there's a bit of wiggle room for the toes yet almost no heel slippage unlike my Blundstones that require me to put on an extra layer of socks.
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>>18715068
>Picked up the RDT Stan boots today
please assume the position
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White's MP
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>wanting anything from that dumb subhuman shill
My condolences
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>>18716507
they are neat, but the $400 james dean tax is a bit ridiculous, the leather sole makes them less versitile, no istep strap means the fit is pretty unforgiving and on top of that you can't return them
but if they're on your mind for days and you're going to beat yourself up for not getting them once they're gone, then go for it
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got a pair of these recently. Altberg Fremingtons (had to get the lady ones as they didn't have mens in my size).
Pretty decent weight distribution across the sole, leather is durable enough, it's super easy to tie up and take off and the laces don't become undone while I'm walking. They're a big heavy for their size though, and don't offer much ankle support.
thought I'd share as it's a nicher brand.