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>>18703670
They make some cool Jeans though!
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>>18703671
Not really into their jeans. Just too clean cut and modern of a design. It’s all kind of soulless for my taste. Every now and then they have a really basic shirt that I dig. I’m considering getting this for summer. I’ve already got a blue striped oxford like this in a similar cut, but it would be nice to have some color variation, and white/cream tones are extremely easy to pair with literally anything
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In my opinion, Boncoura has the nicest repro denim. I think the 15 oz makes it slightly easier to form creases if you desire, but they're also still light enough to just wash regularly and get vintage style fading. Also the color and texture is just on point.
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My thighs have become too thick for my beloved vintage pair of 501’s. I like to wear jeans without a belt so I like a snug waist but some room in the thighs. I have a pair of 13MWZ’s but they require a belt. I know edgyalbert recommended the Levi’s 557 for cowboys but that’s like impossible to find so what are my options?
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>>18704359
33. I think it's close to being fully broken in now, some parts on the shoulders and back are still very stiff and dark. At least it doesn't rise up above my shoulders when I sit down anymore.
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>>18704438
why is this guy >>18704430 such a cock gurgling faggot?
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>>18704442
Idk he’s kind of just trying to force a nonsense meme with the whole “aging millennials love to do squats”. I’m a younger millennial (born 1995) and I personally don’t skip out on leg day, but gym lifestyle is WAY more popular amongst zoomers. Most millennials that actually go to the gym lack the initial amount of T to actually get shredded thighs anyways. There’s always exceptions to this, but look at millennials as a whole and realize that they’re kind of pathetic on a physical level lol
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>>18704428
Not before I made him cum no handed and have a life changing prostate orgasm
>>18704444
This is extremely overstated
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>>18704482
>extremely overstated
What specifically is overstated? I feel like I’m speaking from a pretty realistic perspective. Most millennials (especially those interested in le jap denim) are physically weak and clearly low T. 95%+ of these dudes are not doing squats
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>>18704351
reminds me of wranglerstar
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>>18704508
>you lack conception
You lack a grounding in reality. If you want to reference millennial trends, the most certain thing you can assert is that
>jap raw denim is mostly consumed by millennials
>most millennials are low T with pudgy skinnyfat physiques
>most millennials opt for slim cuts which are not practically worn by someone with muscular thighs
There are millennials who adopted the gym life, but they account for a small minority. Zoomers are by and large more involved with lifting. I don’t even think this is debatable.
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>>18704505
I met him randomly one time. I walked into Self Edge Portland and he was there with his wife. Honestly a really friendly guy. He straight up spent most of the conversation asking about myself and what I do, which is generally a quality of an authentic person.
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Made a table for athletic guys that like might be into diesel jeans, some people don't want to fork out hundreds of dollars for niche brands and they can be had for really cheap online.
I struggled to find decent jeans that fit and didn't look basedcore, most of the designs are pretty nice and the quality is good.
My measurements are 32.5 inch waist and 22inch quads. The Larkee fits the best, copped a Viker but hasn't arrived yet, will see how they fare around the quads.
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>>18704943
Some of us don't want diaper jeans.
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>>18705012
It’s basically
>a few guys actually wanting to talk about nice jeans
>one guy who derails the thread with how jap denim is supposedly not really that great and it’s overpriced, followed by a bunch of retarded assertions about how all the cuts are bad
All it takes is one turd in the punch bowl to ruin the party
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>>18705044
Honestly for how larpy this is, both the jeans and jacket are kind of on point. I wouldn’t ever go to the extent of adding the brown autism boots and matching vest underneath, kind of hurls the entire fit into the uncanny valley.
>>18705045
I’d say give an initial cold wash and hang dry, wear them for a while until the creases are set in solid, then measure how much hem you want to remove yourself. People will say that the loss in length from honeycombs is negligible, but I’m just autistic like that. You probably already know this, but businesses get kind of pissed if you send a pair of dirty jeans for a chainstitxh hem, so make sure to wash and fully dry before sending it in
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>>18705031
>I AM STILL INSISTING THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON WHO DISAGREES WITH ME
endless retardation
you are so cringe
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5th wash on this. I know it's lightened up a lot since it was new but it feels like a really slow fader. I've had it for about a year and a half only wearing it certain seasons. Now I can't wear it until maybe september.
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>>18705080
lmao this nigga washes his jacket
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>>18704997
>the best jeans of all time are bad
you sound both gay and retarded
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>>18705249
Oni’s cuts are fucking retarded. Another brand that lowers the rise and drops the backpockets too low for literally zero reason. The only denim that’s maybe worth getting from them in my opinion is their 15 oz ishikawadai. It’s not crazy textured and it has greencast indigo which is their specialty
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>>18705313
If you aren’t as skinny as that guy, you won’t find a pair that fits like that. If you are, you’re going to be looking for a normal straight leg with a high rise. Check out the Jelado 301 or the TCB 40s
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>>18704943
Post your fit if you have any balls.
Not everyone wants to fork out $400 for Japslop, and despite what you elitist baseddrinking weaklings think about denim, Diesel jeans actually make jeans that look good, but no one ever talks about them.
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>>18705351
Lol way to prove my point.
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>>18705338
Damn I think my brother had jeans with this thing in the pocket, got nostalgic.
I'm sure that Diesel's look better than the jap shit posted here, but pictures online (new ones) don't look great, mostly because I only found slim fits with a quick look.
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>>18705344
We're supposed to be talkin' denim. Not pussy. If you want to get pussy, wear chinos. Not jeans.
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>>18705441
Just start with Levi's 501 shrink-to-fit, before jumping onto the Japanese selvedge bandwagon. They cost the same as regular Levi's, so you can get a feel of what raw denim is like without spending like $400 on Japanese denim.
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>>18705313
I hate this, how do you prevent this from happening?
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>>18705567
People were cuffing their jeans even until the late 2000s. Cuffing (and stacking) is the normal part of wearing jeans. You'd know that if you zoomers didn't just wear sweatpants and basketball shorts all your lives.
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>>18706977
The best looking ass I’ve worn on some jap raws is the sugarcane 2025 wide cut, but you may or may not like a wide leg. They have a heavily tapered waistband, deep yoke, and normally positioned back pockets which are typically some of the more important factors for creating a well-fitted seat that complements the ass. People have said good things about the resolute 711. Honestly, I prefer having some looseness in the but, it helps keep the jeans breathable
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>>18706977
Unironically 3S like in your pic. Thats the RS cut, which you need an ass to fill out, but they have regular fits as well and even a subtle flare now.
They're the only brand I know of besides Wrangler that put the back pockets high enough to be flattering.
>>18707186
These are also really fucking nice. Total 180 from the dumpster fire top block of the 1947
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Went into a store to check out the fabric on Diesel's recommended above. Extremely light and summer appropriate, but they were on sale for 120 euro, which to me is absurd.
I hope somehow some of my 20+ pants fall apart and I find a sale and I can buy some low rise Diesel jeans.
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looks like shit
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There are models where the beak butt just never goes away. Japdenim is shit.
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>>18708542
Bro just don’t. Iron Heart is a dying brand for good reason. Everyone flipped their fucking wig over IH from 2019-2024 and not long after we all realized that normal 13-15 oz repro denim is peak. Not only do the cuts of their jeans suck ass, but all their tops with the exception of their flannels are shitty cuts. Body is too long and slim. Built for skinny fat retards
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>>18708574
Knowing you're paying an enormous mark-up just because Iron Heart does all it's international shipping out of the UK and passes all that overhead to the consumer while Japs pay half of what everyone else does ruined the brand for me
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>>18708675
This as well. All the repro brands (except real Mccoys) don’t cuck you with banning purchases directly from Japan. If you want to focus on style, the repro jeans have objectively better silhouettes.
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Iron Heart is just this weird brand where they're super obsessed with details and the highest quality everything and making things durable and last, yet they do not make a single thing I would ever want to buy.
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>>18708697
not only that but their fits are too slim and too long. their denim jackets are example are all "modified" to be longer in the body. here I am wanting cropped jackets and iron heart just keeps making their stuff longer
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I’m over thinking this, but is this color combo too much?
Normally I avoid noticeable stitching. I tried dying this jacket black, but now the colors are more like
>navy
>brass/bronze threads
>silver buttons
Navy is fine, but I’ve been going for a more black/white wardrobe, so just two colors or black would be more flexible. I don’t want it to come off as a statement or focal point.
I’ll probably just try dying another jacket since it wasn’t as messy as I thought it’d be.
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>>18708728
>no pic
Fuckin chungus
Also it’s hard to get the actual color on camera. Either it looks black or the stitching looks more neon
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>>18708541
I have an "authentic western" type-3 looking one in washed black and it's one of my favorite jackets.
It's not heavyweight, clearly a layering piece but the fit is great for an athletic thin build like mine.
I posted it before either here or on waywt, but here it is. Keep in mind I'm not autistic about clothes, but fully satisfied.
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>>18708945
Don't take that as gospel. I just feel like it fits perfect (not cropped enough to ride up and make you feel self conscious but not long like a modern Lee rider) and I'm not big but I'm sure if I had the shoulders and traps I had before working out it would look boxy as opposed to fitted. It has an old school fit I'd say.
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>>18709265
They still make them. Momotaros are definitely very nice though even with the new ownership. Personally not really my thing, the denim is too shiny and sleak and gives off too much of a soulless luxury vibe, but if that’s something you really like then I will admit their normal straight and wide cuts are pretty good
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>>18703583
Everybody post lee jackets. Doesn't have to be white. These things are sick.
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>>18709376
I don't agree with you about looking oily, but Momotaros were the slowest fading jeans I ever owned
I literally gained too much weight and had to retire the pair before I ever even got any significant fading
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>>18709375
Insufficient taper for how slim the top block is. The fabric pulls closer around the leg above the knee so it appears slimmer, but then past the knee the same amount of fabric is free to billow out, creating the impression of a flare. A looser top block would sort the issue out.
>>18708542
It just has a more pronounced twill pattern but its fairly similar. That said, avoid IH unless you're a hungry skeleton (in which case get the 888) or wanna wait around for a 1955 restock.
>>18708697
Nah, their 21oz can drape well for what it is. The issue is that most cuts are too tight to show that off, but theres a pic of a skeleton wearing some beat up 634s floating around somewhere that looks really good. The bigger problem with IH's 21oz is that it started the heavy = better hype train which has been a disaster for denim because nobody else does the triple woven yarns that make IH's 21oz fabric so soft. Instead they compensate with thicker threads and you get abominations like N&F's elephant series which are just cardboard tubes. Fuck, even IH cant replicate the effect past 21oz. Their UHR and 25oz fabrics are both dogshit. And their standard 14 is woven so tightly it breathes worse than the flagship 21 in heat.
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>>18709492
>The issue is that most cuts are too tight to show that off
Did you see the new 684 cut? It’s supposed to be their “relaxed” cut but it’s literally just the 634 lmao. It’s like they took the 634 and increased the rise like maybe a quarter inch. I cannot believe how fucking retarded IH is. I want to love them but at the end of the day there is ALWAYS something suboptimal and unnecessary with the designs of their cuts
>634: thigh is just slightly too slim and rise is ungodly low for a “straight” cut
>1955: absurdly strong taper below the knee. Real 1955 jeans did not have this
>888: Nope.
I own their 1955 in 21 oz and I will admit that the top block is literally perfect, but I will never be able to just accept the strong taper below the knee. The ideal pair would just be taking the 1955 and giving it the same taper ratio as the 634
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>>18709581
I hear the taper argument all the time about the 1955 but I dont buy it. Unless youre a lanklet and need all 36 inches of inseam, a hem will literally bring them out to 8.5" which is in line with historical 1955 cuts.
Fuck, even at ~8" the hem lines up with 13mwz and any post-1960s 501s. I agree that it would be better at 9" but it really doesnt bother me that much and looks pretty good stacked over cowboy boots.
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>>18709853
skinny/slim is the best
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>>18710693
Those are skinny jeans, not slim. Know the difference, faggots. Picrel is what actual slim fit jeans look like. And no, You won't get disgusting fades like that on looser fits. Thank god.
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NTA. That doesn't mean they should be like 4 inches below the yoke. There's reason for the pockets to be that low.
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Alright niggas, big thighed rapidly aging millennial here. Just got a pair of Uchida Housei 262 jeans. Long story short, these are in my opinion a perfect high rise wide/relaxed straight cut. These have a better fitting ass than 90%+ of jap repro style jeans. For those wanting some jap denim but don’t want to deal with the puckering of loose fabric in the butt, these are it. For thick bois, these will fit you like a straight cut and for skinny fellas these will be a balanced wide cut without going overboard with bagginess.
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The top block and seat actually kind of feel like my pair of 13MWZ. Very similar rise too
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>>18713023
Genuinely kill yourself.
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So after chinking it up for a while I decided to try some actual japanese denim and got myself the Fullcount 105 for the full Zimbabwe cotton folded gorillion times experience.
It's definitely better, but not THAT much better. Stitching is obviously superior, but this zimbabwe cotton isn't that superior to the slave labor cotton the chinks use.
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>>18714736
I’ve worn my 0105 for a year and I promise you that they do actually get softer than anything else. Those jeans were designed to be as comfortable as possible. After like 6 months of regular wear and washing, they feel like cashmere or silk
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FUCK i finally got a blowout right before the 20 year mark.
>>18709489
my momotaros definitely have that oily sheen to them. i think i bought them in like 2007 though, it may be a different fabric now days.
>>18714736
that's because the xinjiang cotton chinks use is actually some of the best quality cotton in the world. its less that the fullcounts don't live up to the hype so much as your chink jeans use an unreasonably nice fabric for how cheap they are. xinjiang is artificially cheap because a lot of countries ban it from import due to it being harvested with slave labor. its 33-39mm staple length which is the low end of the extra long staple range and zimbabwe cotton is like 38-45mm. to put things in perspective the american upland cotton that something like wranglers are made with is 25mm. mystery meat jeans can be as low as less than half of that.
>>18708945
lee rider pattern jackets and type 1's look way better than type 3's on husky guys. fun fact if you try to find a vintage one: the late 80's lee jackets with the union made tag are the exact same pattern and fabric as the much more expensive 1960's lee jackets. you'll see posts online claiming the fit and/or the fabric is different, they're wrong.
red cloud has a guide on their website for dating and identifying vintage lee riders.
>>18704734
you can't avoid combs on a type 3 because the arms are slim. if you don't like combs get a lee rider the arms are huge.
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>>18713428
some guy on superfuture did it like 15yrs ago
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>>18704516
i think im the only skinny guy who even posts in here and this is my first post in over 6 months.
>>18704444
>but look at millennials as a whole and realize that they’re kind of pathetic on a physical level lol
well yeah we grew up during the rise of processed food during a decade where nutrition science was completely fucked and they told our parents that we'll die of a heart attack if they feed us meat and eggs.
zoomers are growing up in the era where a homosexual billionaire who murdered his gay lover is astroturfing the shit out of looksmaxing and steroids.
at the end of the day though millenials got laid more than any generation in post industrial history and zoomers are on their way to setting the record for the least.
>>18705027
i made him an infographic to show him how to get jeans to fit his ass properly and stop wasting money. he was too dumb to figure it out.
>>18705044
that fit would look sick broken in and on a guy who doesn't pose like a sperg in headlights.
>>18705338
i like vintage diesel. not that era though, rises were too low. the denim purists, "i never wash my jeans" guys and iron heart guys are always the newfags. the selvedge raw denim superiority thing fades away when you're into selvedge for more than a few years. you learn to appreciate a good looking pair of jeans for what they are.
>>18705457
those look terrible. if you want to dip your toes into raw denim cheap get red tornados or something.
>>18705656
i dated a girl who opened with "nice jeans" for a couple years. i was wearing balls skinny painted on momotaros. this was probably like 2006-8 before the skinny fit started hitting the mall and hipsters started wearing it.
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>>18715438
denime 90s-00 kyoto model off the top of my head.
several other brands i'm drawing a blank on.
search 90s on all the typical jap retailers & rakuten, i'm sure you'll find something.
yahoo auc japan isn't a bad idea because there's a lot more brands that did a run or two of them than brands that consistently sell them.
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>>18715679
i rarely buy raw jackets either, they just take SO long to fade appreciably. i always go for vintage raw jackets that are already faded to shit. not a fan of pre-washed denim because its terrible for the environment. i'll only buy it used.
>>18715677
ya seconding this. its pretty easy to find dead stock brand new 90s levis at decent prices. and faded out ones for cheap.
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>>18715696
are you the anon who convinced me to get a vintage lee rider? fucking love that thing. gets comments and where'd you get that's all the time. the price i paid for how sick the fades on my example are is criminal.
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>>18715700
I’m not that person, but I always suggest anons to buy vintage stuff. Here’s my collection:
>vintage Levi’s 501 midwash, perfectly consistent fading, high rise straight fit
>vintage Levi’s 501 neppy dark blue, looks like raw denim but it’s not; unbelievable soft fabric, high rise and straight fit
>vintage Levi’s 505, lightwash and consistent fading; it’s such a light azure it almost shows lilac shades, beautiful; high rise and wide fit
>vintage Italian Casucci jeans, perfect fading and the cut is inspired to the 505s
>vintage Italian raws from the 80s found new, super wide fit and high rise; by far my favorite pair; slow faders and the cut is sublime
Next to these, the two Japanese jeans I have seem rather disappointing to me and it is no coincidence that they receive the least amount of wearing time. I’m actually planning to sell them.
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>>18715708
>vintage Levi’s 505, lightwash and consistent fading; it’s such a light azure it almost shows lilac shades, beautiful; high rise and wide fit
>vintage Italian Casucci jeans, perfect fading and the cut is inspired to the 505s
>vintage Italian raws from the 80s found new, super wide fit and high rise; by far my favorite pair; slow faders and the cut is sublime
my curiosity's sparked. mind posting pics of these ones? if you already did i haven't checked the thread in the better half of a year post em again.
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>>18715702
Yeah im going through and selling off a lot of the selvedge I consoomed chasing the perfect fit. I fell for the "just let the denim relax and settle" meme which always ended up looking worse than when they were new and starchy. Im basically holding on to some overdyed IH 1955s, some black wide leg left fields, and the black wranglers that I daily.
>>18715708
I wish I could fit old 501s and 505s but my quads are too big. I wish all the loose fit orange tabs actually stayed loose through the hem. Instead we get stuff like the 550 which tapers to a comical ~7"
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>>18715748
>I fell for the "just let the denim relax and settle" meme
thats a holdover from the skinny fit era. it was genuine advice back then. skinnies always looked like shit until the creases really got set in.
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is anyone here experienced with 20oz denim? bought a pair online, fits pretty good in the seat and waist, but god damn do they hurt to sit in cause the front rise digs into my stomach. Does this chill the fuck out when they get more broken in, or are they just too small?
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>>18715693
Where do I find them? Seems expensive on Ebay
>>18715696
Which one is this? curious
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>>18716154
Meant for the lee rider
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>>18716156
learn how to id them yourself http://www.redcloud.co.jp/detail/lee.htm
the 220j's are the exact same thing fabric and cut as the 101j's. everything online saying otherwise is misinformation being parroted by people who never actually bought multiple of these things. the late 70's 101j's and 220j's can be had for cheap. i bought several AMAZING ones between $50-100.
pro tip skip the high priced ones with semi professional photos taken of them, develop an eye for spotting sick fades hiding behind a shittily taken ebay pic. my best one was a potato quality photo where the color was totally off.
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Still bringing my jacket to work everyday so it can fade in the sun
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>>18717067
i bought a vintage jacket from a old canadian farmer where most of the fading is top-down sun fading and it looks cool as hell. it got me thinking how if i lived somewhere with an appreciable amount of sunlight how one could probably get crazy fades by getting a torso mannequin for the back yard and throwing their jackets on it & rotating the direction periodically. because fuck jackets fade so slow.
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At the risk of shilling chink jeans I gotta sing the praises of these Sauce Zhan jeans I got. Holy fuck they're soft and beautiful and cost like 60$. I don't know if mixing cotton and ramie/linen is some softness hack or if it has shit quality/durability, but this is like wearing pure silk.
Haven't washed them yet so maybe they'll shrink like crazy and lose the softness, but thus far this might be the best 60$ I've ever spent.
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