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The Fragrance Groups 101 Chart

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The Fragrance Flowchart for Beginners

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vintage bottles/samples came in the mail today

>lalique pour homme faune (tester, full)
>van cleef & arpels pour homme
>guy laroche drakkar
>caron pour un homme (full)
>escada pour homme (5ml splash)
>polo crest
and a few other ones but those Im most excited for

Alright, which Arab makes a good fig fragrance. At least one of those mf’s has to know a thing or two about figs

Which frag have you tried so far that is most deserving of the title of "signature fragrance"?

bought a bottle of D&G Light Blue intense thanks to you fags and I got complimented on it multiple times today. Love ya guys <3

>>18716820
For me, personally?
Mousse Illuminée, Iron Duke, and at a previous time TdH EdT.

Iron Duke I can’t/don’t really wear in the summer though, so it gets knocked down a peg.

>>18716489
Same way you deal with literally anything else in life. You may never hear the perfect song out of 500000000 songs, you may never see the most perfect pristine view, or catch that perfect fish, or find the most ideal partner to spend your life with.

It's about appreciating the journey you've had thus far up until this point. Not chasing an obscure concept of perfection endlessly.

>>18716833
Which ones from Beaufort London are their best according to you? I think some anons were discussing the brand a few days back but I didn't note down the names. Thnx.

>>18716820
Prada L'Homme Intense, Loewe Solo Cedro, Aventus Cologne, Chanel Allure Homme EDT

>>18716809
tfw missed this limited edition, it has aura as fuck

SOTD: Un Jardin sur le Nil
It's Euromaxxing time

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My favorite notes:
>Oud
>Musk
>Incense
>Bergamot
>Spices
>Amber
>Ambroxan

My least favorite notes:
>Civet
>Castoreum
>Hyrax
>Iso e Super
>Green apple
>Grapefruit
>Pineapple

>>18716896
What is that? What's the difference between Terre D'Hermes and that one?

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What does he wear, /frag/?

>>18716907
literally just the bottle

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Lads, it has certainly exceeded my expectations. Overall very fresh and pleasant, fits the role of a summer gourmand reasonably well. I could see this being great in high heat. Those almond notes really come through and round off the sweetness, not cloying whatsoever. The citrus opening is excellent but disappears almost as soon as it hits skin somehow. Will need to test with a proper full wear, but overall a decent release by Turkdjian

Is El Nino hit your country, anons? What are you guys wearing in this extremely hot weather?

>>18716820
>Which frag have you tried so far that is most deserving of the title of "signature fragrance"?
Robert Graham Valour.

>>18716820
DH 2011 which will be my SOTD today

>>18716925
32c here in Athens but it feels way worse. Wore d&g pour Homme while traveling on the bus carrying bags and felt fresh. Packed adg parfum, platine blanc and hawas tropical for a week in Madrid and Barcelona.

>>18716908
probably old spice

>>18716920
Thanks I didn't know this even existed. The notes sound like a snoozefest but they don't mean much anyway. Seems like they release all the lighter generic scents as regular privee and the long lasting and interesting scents on the esprit line. This is because everyone lost their mind when they released light floras for the asian market on the privee line which people expected to be heavy and long lasting complex scents. It makes sense but it also means all their best stuff will be on the esprit line.

>>18716850
Funny that you mention music since I do feel saddened by not having enough lifetimes to listen to all the good music, but I don't feel that about perfumes. Hearing and smell work quite different so I can, and have, listened to an artist's entire discography or all the top albums or songs from the same genre. Can't really go through every single rose scent the same way. There is more redundancy in perfume. I don't have the same desire to go through every single good perfume, I just want to learn about the different categories and find stuff that interest me. I have a big enough collection that I don't need anything else but I'm still curious what I'm missing. I find fragrances as more finite than music.

As far as signature scents go it's not a concept that works for me. I don't like wearing the same thing, I just have favorites that I wear more often than others.

>>18716814
>escada pour homme (5ml splash)
Try this on a comfy cold weather setting, either lounging at home at night or at fancy event. It's amazing but I don't like it in the heat.
>polo crest
I'm really curious how this is, I see it pop up from time to time.
>van cleef & arpels pour homme
This as well.

>>18716854

>>18709964
>>18709965

>>18716925
>What are you guys wearing in this extremely hot weather?
L'air du desert marocain

>>18716961
ill be trying those two tonight and tomorrow night, one each. ill respond with how they are later on
Caron PUH vintage comes first for lounging at home playing vidya

>>18716980
Not a hot weather frag. Stop.

SOTD Dior Sauvage EDT

>>18716996
Whelp the atomizer on the vintage Caron PUH seems to be broken. What little I could get out of the bottle is definitely legit though
Sucks that I might have to crack this one open and rebottle it, I love the handfeel of the actual bottle

>>18717001
If you wear that, you are Indian.

>>18717001
worst version of sauvage by far

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Is my collection kino bros?

>>18716814
what frag would Vidya Butts wear

>>18717040
>>>/trash/

>>18716814
also curious about van cleef and arpels. i understand it to be discontinued so im wondering if its worth the headache

>>18716998
How so?

>>18717058
It's been discontinued for years, but it was reintroduced recently together with Tsar.
I'm not sure where it's available physically, but it's available online at least.

>>18717020
but enough about Drakkar Noir

>>18717058
>>18717073
from what I can gather the reissues are only physically available at their boutiques which are appoinment-only. it seems like something that they only sell as an afterthought to their jewelry which is what the appointments are for

ive looked everywhere online, nobody sells them except for eBay

>>18717007
No experience with PUH specifically, but you might get lucky, a lot of vintage bottles use a crimp seal at the top that you can essentially just unfold to get at the juice.

Just take it slow and focus on metal and plastic as opposed to glass.

>18717040

>>18714063
>I posted it again mom :D

Name a single frag that does what it's trying to do better than TdH

>>18717098
l'orpheline

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Fragrance Flowchart Ideas
Give me a number on the chart and (Text or Fragrance)
eg
20 - Woody
3 - Spices
18 - Caron: Yatagan

One chart for each fragrance family. I'll update this if it actually gets replies

>>18716998
pussy

>>18717106
Explain more.

Is this intended as a remake of the original charts, in other words #1 is the most generic, accessible, crowd pleasing, 2 and 3 are slight offshoots from that style, all the way down to 16-19 which are only tangentially related?

Because that would make sense to me, but doesn’t really fit with what you typed.

>>18717106
I don't know if I'm the idiot or if you're the idiot.
Anyways 9

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>>18716925
Prada amber pour homme.

>>18717151
this is so shit compared to intense
its not *bad* its just outshined so much by the powdery-oriental wonder that is prada aphi

>>18717094
i thought the last thread 404 hun

Hacivat moggs all Aventus clones and its not even close

>>18717087
Not all of them, I went to their big boutique in Milan and they didn't even know what I was talking about.
I checked their website again and you're right, my bad, the price is there but I can't buy it.
I'll shoot them an email and see what the options are.

>>18717187
I did exactly that about half a year ago and they told me to reach out to their verified resellers. Neiman Marcus and Bergdorf Goodman
I remember trying to do that and hitting a dead end for some reason, can't remember why

This is your last chance to give me one (1) hot weather fragrance that is genuinely interesting, complex and high quality. And not discontinued.

>>18717238
CdG Serpentine

>>18717242
I don't like CdG's avant-garde minimalistic vibe

>>18717238
serge lutens l'eau politesse d'armoise

think of it like a cheaper designer Geranium pour Monsieur

>>18717238
Jardin sur le Nil

>>18717238
4711

>>18717238
beach hut man retard how many times do i have to post this here. If you dont like it try Search instead

>>18717271
>beach hut man
discontinued
>>18717246
>>18717254
>>18717263
>all light airy stuff with no performance
grim

>>18717272
Holy double retard
https://amouage.com/en-ca/products/beach-hut-man-100ml-eau-de-parfum
You must be thinking of bracken or sunshine

Looking for a fragrance recommendation.

> age range
mid-30s
> season/climate
spring through early autumn, continental european
> price range
200EUR max, but cheaper is always better
> setting
dunno, everything

My favourite scent ever was fleur du male by jean paul gaultier, but it's discontinued and I can't find anything as good, or as good as I remember it having been. Of currently available scents I like juniper salt by womo, but it has very little staying power. I guess I want something flowery but not sweet or sour. I also like terre d'hermes, but everybody is wearing it now, and it also doesn't have much staying power.
I was also thinking of getting something with petrichor. Never tried it so I have no idea if I'd like it, but I really love the smell of fresh rain.

>>18717272
fucking do your own research then retard, instead of constantly crying to us for recs and then not liking any

How's the performance on GIT nowadays

>>18717282
>mature, mild/warm weather all-rounder
>balanced floral with staying power
>medium-high budget
>maybe petrichor

Well, for petrichor you could try Baie 19. Neroli Intense might scratch the neroli itch from Fleur but the performance is mild and it's a simple and linear scent. You could also try H24 since you like Terre, though it's a little bit weird. Another high-performance floral would be Narcotic V. Orage could also be a solid petrichor play, but possibly out of budget unless you can find a partial or a decanter who does 30s or 50s.

>>18717307

Thanks. Sadly I couldn't find samples for any of them to ship to the EU in the links from the general, and they don't sound like the sort of scents I'm likely to find in walk-in shops :(

>>18717282
Have you sampled Hermann?

>>18717323
You mean Hermann à mes Côtés me Paraissait? I have not, from the fragrantica description it doesn't sound like a good fit
> rose oil
sounds sweet, no? I have no idea what non-sweet rose is supposed to smell like.

I'd give it a shot if I could do a quick sample order, but again, I can't find this on any of the EU sample sites :/ Had no idea it's so hard to get samples.

>>18717319
>Baie 19
Depending on where in EU you are, you might be able to find a Le Labo outlet in one of the major cities.
>Neroli Intense
Cheapie, probably not available for sampling at storefronts
>H24
Designer, likely easy to sample at luxury drugstores or Sephora
>Narcotic V.
Probably available at any sizeable niche perfume store. Check Nasomatto site for retailers maybe
>Orage
same as Baie. Also check luxury department stores, they sometimes carry LV fragrances.

Also, check facebook for private perfume exchange groups for your country/region. You can sometimes find decanters with excellent prices. Just follow the same advice you would use for buying on ebay (trusted seller, lots of transaction history, strong reviews, etc).

>>18717327
>>18717327
Ok, I was able to find Narcotic V. and Hermann etc. from the other guy's recommendation on allyours.com still none of the others. I'll make a list and ask in shops. Pretty bummed that there's not one huge website that has samples of (almost) everything... What do pros do to compare and stay up to date with new scents, do they go on an easter-egg hunt for dozens of new scents?

>>18717272
>all light airy stuff with no performance
>grim
why didn't you specify that in your post then retard?
just get Vibrato or Contralto and fuck off

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>>18716814
>>18716961
>>18717058
tried both

>van cleef & arpels pour homme
musky chypre at the top with a smooth, green, leathery heart. dries back down into a rough patchouli/musk accord with some of the greenery still shining through. If you wanted to compare this to other frags from the 70s/80s era, this is like if OG drakkar noir, modern kouros, and equipage all had a baby. it's like if you took the archetypal 80s powerhouse and made it more sophisticated and elegant, rather than brash and loud like so many were.
If the rumors are true, and VC&A has kept the reissue formula mostly the same as the original, this is honestly something I will be tracking down to have a full bottle of.

>polo crest
crisper and a little sweeter than the OG green. if you took out a little tobacco and added some rose/bergamot, you have polo crest.
Now that I think of it (I still have it on my wrist) its more similar to Italian Cypress than the OG is, which is ironic because iirc italian cypress was meant to be a modernized version of OG polo green.

>vintage Caron PUH
same as the modern formula, but mossier and a little bit drier somehow. not too different, but still good to try.

>lalique pour homme le faune
a bit of a playdoughy lavender/vanilla going on, but with a clean amber-like accord and something else more floral I cant put my finger on. overall a smooth, blue, sweet, floral fragrance just a touch too dated for modern audiences. it's nice to have the final lalique pour homme to complete the trio, but current eBay prices for a full, true bottle are way too much for what the scent is

>>18717282
can I refine my request by adding
> something I can order a sample of delivered to the EU
how do you guys even know so many scents? seems really hard to get samples
> websites are total disasters
> samples not available
> samples out of stock
> find one sample but none of the others
First time here so I might have just underestimated how chaotic this all is.

>>18717326
Get it direct from ELDO’s EU website. They do 4 piece sample kits, scroll through their catalog and pick out 3 other frags that look interesting to you, there’s enough there to work with, and they do a lot of floral based frags.

>>18717346
hot weather fragrance doesn't necessarily mean airy citrus with no performance

>>18717356
i always recommend Bois Imperial because it's a cheap and long lasting frag with a scent profile that is generally well-liked.
for petrichor though, Hermann is one of the best out there. the Geosmin note makes it smell like rain. it's an earthy rose smell. it's quite nice.
also can't go wrong with some classics like BdC, NYI, Pour Monsieur, etc.

>>18717364
BI's performance has become lackluster in the recent formulations
I've been wanting to try the extrait for that reason

>>18717358
sure, but if you're going to outright shut them down, be specific in what you're looking for.
anyways, aquatics also work. Acqua di Sale is a good one

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>>18717357
>ELDO’s EU website
found the correct one in the end, but almost ordered picrel to my house. Stay safe guys.

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>>18717356
>how do you guys even know so many scents
same way some people know so many songs.
fragrances have trends and genres and standout examples of categories just like music does. then you follow the rabbit hole based on what you like and build an archival knowledge based on that
there's probably an assorted 50-100 high profile fragrances that just about any perfume autist will know by mention or recommendation
>seems really hard to get samples
If you havent already, there are websites listed in the OP pasta labelled us/eu
most of my sampling Ive done through Luckyscent, and I think they ship to the EU also but I could be wrong. Lots of people hate the little 1mL dabber vials but I dont mind them, personally. once you find a few websites that work well for your area thats really all there is to it, just rotate between the same one to three sites unless you get into vintage collecting which is tiresome in its own way

alternatively, clothing and beauty stores here in the US often have a fragrance section with testers that you can just walk up and try out. maybe you have something like that by you

>>18717333
I get everything through facebook groups. There are a few big ones in my country with 10+ years active and extremely vigilant and harsh moderation. There are dozens of decanters, with some offering hundreds of scents, as well as highly-connected individuals who conduct split orders, preorders, group buys, and so on, all well below discounter price and tax-free. Crazy shit in some of these groups, theres one fella who periodically will split from his 1L official dramming fluid bottles of discontinued Tom Fords. There were also a few bottles of Margiela Anguish and Awe floating around months before it was released.

>SOTN: Dans Tes Bras
Pulled my decant out of my sell pile after one of you guys mentioned it a few times. Revisiting it after ~6-8 months, I like it a lot more now. It has a certain simplicity that isn't necessarily boring or linear, but rather minimal. I pick up a few core elements, soft pale florals, slightly metallic musk, and some powdery notes which combine to be cool, gentle, and comforting. Would be absolutely intoxicating on a woman.

>>18717365
no issues in terms of performance on my end with BI.
another few that i would suggest: Colonia Essenza (actually quite long lasting surprisingly), BdJ, Prada L'Homme, Gris Charnel

>>18717372
Kek

>>18717354
thanks fren
pour homme sounds like something id enjoy but i cba to hunt down any discontinued fragrance

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I have it in my head that I need to get an MFK freshie for work. Currently own D&B Light Blue eau Intense and YSL Myslf. Is Aqua Celestia Cologne Forte too fruity for an office environment? I'm almost inclined to try the OG Aqua Universalis but heard the longevity is ass.

>>18717418
Better solution, get that terrible idea out of your head.

>>18717408
FragranceVault might still have some decants of it if you really feel like trying. their site is in french but they seem to ship from Cali

>>18717420
What workplace freshie would you suggest? Not something too old-school like a fougere though.

>>18717426
On second thought, what's a good modern beginner's fougere?

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>>18717430
the four that come to mind would be
>rogue perfumery fougere l'aube
>chanel platinum egoiste
>penhaligon's the cut / sartorial
>naughton & wilson gravitas
h24 isn't technically a fougere but to me it always came off as a metallic futuristic fougere, and its cheap so you could try that

>>18717085
You spelled Cool Water wrong

>>18717177
Not CDNIM though

>>18717426
My workplace freshies are
>Bohemian Lime
>Missoni Wave (or substitute CAHSEE)
>GitS
>Day Three’s Del Mar
>Neroli Mediterraneo

For warm weather but not absolutely scorching I’ll also use
>DSH2021
>Lime Cola
>BdC (currently L’Exclusif, but I won’t be re-upping it once consumed)
>The Dreamer

Not currently in rotation but in the closet are
>Philippine Houseboy
>Eau de Rochas Homme
>TdH Eau Givree (travel spray)
>Bois Imperial

I also just recently purchased 6 Nicolai travel sprays, but after getting to test some that were blind buys, I’ll probably only use 4-5 of them.

>>18717430
>modern beginner's fougere
This is a much more complex question than you may think.
Assuming you mean modern as in date produced, why would that make them any better than ones made 50 years ago?
Assuming you mean modern as in style, it’s an old style, modern interpretations aren’t going to change what it is at its core.
>Fougere l'aube
>Bon Monsieur
>Zino
>Azzaro pour Homme
>Paco Rabanne pour Homme

Good suggestions >>18717456 as well.

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>>18717461
it moggs CDNIM the hardest, actually

>>18717430
>>18717456
i should recant my rec for fougere l'aube
its one of the best modern fougeres around but rogue isnt beginner friendly

the 2010 formulation of Houbigants Fougere Royale may actually be a decent starting point. fougere royal was actually the *very first* fougere when it was produced over 100 years ago, but they remade it "recently" for modern audiences.
fougere marine from montale is also pretty neutral, as is b-618 from nishane (kind of)
dior sauvage, despite its advertised note listing, is actually a fougere as well amd very very common still

Dior Homme EDT 2020 mogs BDC

>>18717272
performancefagging is for jeets and underage b&/

>>18717354
>Italian Cypress
The auctions I have missed haunt me, this is one of them. It's not fair that I have to be poor.

>>18717502
spending 200 bucks on something you won't be able to smell an hour later doesn't make you refined, it makes you a retard