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>Where do I start?

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I injected some test in to the middle of my quad a couple weeks ago and still have a somewhat large hard lump at the injection site. What's going on? No signs of infection as far as I can tell. Anyone know what this might be? Is it something to be concerned about?
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>>77304299
congratz, you've injected another man's semen, ts just a prank bruv
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the retard chink customers discovered lobster apparently and he seems overwhelmed with orders :((

why are the chinks so useless
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>>77304299
Only retards inject quads. Don't do it again.
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>>77304567
I love quad injections, that being said I kind of fucked it up last night but it was SubQ and I massage gunned it afterwards and it's fine now.
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Redpill me on hgh brothers. What's a good price. Duration and dose for mass gaining cycle vs cut/recomp.
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Tranny thread. Stay natty brahs.
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>>77304613
it was $0.40/iu a few months ago, now it's $0.60/iu, and it'll soon be over $1/iu if you can find it. stock up!
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>>77304442
>>77304574

Not the 100mg guy, but you are both dead wrong about that giving average levels. 100mg a week will give you higher total t than average person, probably in the range of 600-800 dg/nl. And yes that is substantially higher than the average healthy person. The 1000 number was pulled out of thin air.

In addition 100mg a week will give you free t levels that are double a high t natty. Free t matters much more than total t because you are supplementing exogenously.

But neither of you knew that. You just came on here to gatekeep. Literally passed the captcha so you could repeat something you read.

Exhibit Z on why no one should take seriously anything they read here. Don't even solicit advice.
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>>77304632
gib seller name not website pls
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>>77304709
100mg per week gave me 400 ng/dl. You're retarded. Pure reddit.

>You just came on here to gatekeep.

The guy said he wanted to build muscle, so they told him to do more than 100mg a week (good advice). Nobody who wants to get big is doing 100mg a week. Retard. You've got to go back.
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>>77304709
>>77304756
You’re both reddit spacing faggots but one of you is correct; no I will not say which.
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>>77304756
>100mg per week gave me 400 ng/dl.

Hate to break it to you buddy but your gear was bunk
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I'm training combat sports around 14 hours a week and I'm interested in steroids for better recovery after training and more aggression, not so much muscle mass. Would it just be enough to take testosterone?
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>>77304813
i'm not that anon, but i was prescribed 160mg/week, and it got me to 450 tt (300-1200 range), 110 ft (where 120 is top range), 90 e2 (30 top range), and apparently my shbg was 6 (i think range was 10-57). some of us just have shit genetics
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>>77304866
Youre better off doing TB500/BPC157 than Test if you specifically want recovery so you don’t shut down your production.
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>>77304215
Redpill me on turinabol
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>>77304813
It wasn't bunk because I used the same stuff to do a 700mg a week cycle with great results.
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How legally dangerous is it to import gear from a EU country to another?
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>>77304908
I don't doubt that you got good results but the 700mg was not actually 700mg probably closer to 400-500mg. Just to be clear I'm not saying your gear was fake, just that it was underdosed. 100mg should put you higher than 400ng/dl.
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>>77304866
trt+hgh
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>>77304908
Maybe it was diluted

>>77304613
Name?
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>the Ostarinsomnia
How are the sides harsher than fucking rad-140? This was supposed to be the "mild" sarm
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>>77305221
It's luck of the draw how you respond bro. For me it is mild, just a great cutting assistant. I got sleep issues from LGD. You gotta try them all separately
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>>77305243
Yeah, how you respond is all based on what the drug gods decide I guess. It sucks, because I can feel the workout intensity building up nicely and have visible shoulder width gains at 3 weeks, but holy fuck, the insomnia is unbearable. I don't think the net result is worth it if I'm crashing every other biomarker with 4-5 hours of shallow, fragmented sleep per night. I think I'll just continue on 2 weeks of enclo while I hop off, then give it a 4-6 week reset before trying LGD again, which I responded favorably to in the past.
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>>77305221
Ostarine both fucked with my sleep and gave me this really shitty low, depressive mood. I hit the ejection lever after 3 weeks of brutal insomnia. Idk where the meme of it being a weak SARM came from, as it not only packs on insane muscle but also has some of the worst liver toxicity out of all of them. LGD 4033 is the superior sarm for both it's anabolic/androgenic ratio and side profile, as long as you don't mind it causing a bit more bloating than osta
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>>77304173
100 mg is a TRT dosage. That said, it helps, but not necessarily to develop bigger or better muscles.
You need to understand how your body works. Some people take 100 mg and reach 1000 ng/dL total testosterone, while others need 200 mg to reach the same level.
E2 is a completely different world as well. Some people aromatize a lot; others barely do. Again, you need to see how your own body responds.
Start with 100 and after 8-12 weeks (not before) check CBC (hematocrit!), Lipids, Test free and total, e2, prolactin and progesterone would be good as well, psa, etc etc. Testosterone is a blessing or a curse for some bodies.
After that you start to think about what and how address. Never use any AI unless you really need it
>>77303827
Not relevant really. I bought 60mg vials and use only 9mg week, everything's fine.
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>Telmisartan stops the LVH/cardiac remodeling from Nandrolone
>but it doesn't stop it from altering your heart rhythm

So close to cruising forever but so far away.
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>>77303653
>>77303827
I take 2mg tirz EOD, so the Tirz 100's will last 100 days each.
The GLP-1 peptides are stable as fuck, as long as it's all kept sterile. Theres people that use the same vial for over 9 months and don't have problems.

The fragile peptides are the large, intricate proteins like HGH, HCG, IGF-1, tesamorelin


>>77305379
>I bought 60mg vials and use only 9mg week, everything's fine.
Yeah, as long as you keep it clean, refrigerated, out of the sun etc. you won't have any problems
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Don’t forget bros, Hitler would have wanted you to pin 500mg Tren/week.
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>>77305803
Why EOD instead of twice a week?
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>>77305148
charleen weiss

Her boyfriend is prettier though.
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>>77305327
>insane muscle
>ostarine
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>>77305991
hitler lost the lat spread vs stalin
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>>77305803
Fully agree
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>>77304884
Boldenone in oral form = Dianabol
Dianabol without the water = Turinabol
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>>77304709
>>77304756
100mg gave/gives me 950tt... Am I a super responder to testo? Is it good or bad?
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>>77306220
Sounds like your gear may have been overdosed (not an uncommon thing at all)
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>>77305991
that's why i take 600
>> hitler
>> not even once
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>>77306215
I thought dbol was good for strength and tbol and eq arent
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Can I inject front or rear delt if it is no more than 1ml?
My side delts probably have scar tissue by now
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>>77304882
But is this stuff not just for injury recovery? I'm not injured. I'm 36, and I want to feel less drained and, ideally, feel the same energy I had, when I was 26.

>>77305145
By TRT you mean just testosterone? Why HGH?
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>>77306644
Yes TRT. HGH will help with recovery. I'm running 2iu a day for a recomp and improved recovery. Inexpensive even if you can't find a cheap source since it's such a low dose.
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>>77306655
HGH is inexpensive? I have heard the opposite and on top of that: It is supposedly hard to get real stuff. What about unwanted side effects, such as organ growth?
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>>77306241
It was my first thought as well, but no (coa showing regular numbers).
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>>77306611
Front no, rear delt is a common spot. I'd prefer the triceps though
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>>77306667
It's expensive if you're doing a bodybuilding cycle but at only 2iu a day it's not costing me a lot.

>>77306241
>overdosed

Why would they do that I thought the goal was to make money
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>>77306788
>why would they
Because "brand xyz is the best, I feel better/have more results/it's strong /it's not underdosed/etc etc"
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>>77306102
Because they graduated from reddit university and don't understand that the half life is so long it doesn't really matter. Literally, I have fucking NEVER noticed a difference in hunger levels injecting weekly. I got some shit with B12 that says inject twice a week and I started doing that and it feels the same.

Anyways reading that pissed me off.

>>77306655
It helps with recovery to a certain extent. For example GHRH drugs are basically placebo on a calorie deficit. In my experience. Likely a similar case for HGH, though your body is forced to have that dose vs being signaled to produce a higher dose.
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>>77304299
>>77304215
Seriously. Why bother taking steroids and that other crap with side effects? Is it really worth it?
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I wish I could just buy shit with a credit card or ach. My taxes are already too complicated without having to figure out what I owe after selling my cropto holdings.
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>>77306918
sir, this is a thread for us to share the positive sides of our gender affirming care, and for trenny to yell at people for not using enough tren. i'm going to have to invite you to compliment my feminine penis, or leave.
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>>77306961
there may or may not be an australia based cex that takes any ssn-looking entry as a valid ssn... exchange rates are sucky, but not terrible given it's practically anonymous
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Is dbol or winnie + epo wise for a first cycle ?
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>>77307019
I might look into that. You used to be able to buy basically anything with CC or venmo, and now it's buttcorn only. I miss those days.
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>>77306918
We aren't here to convince you, you have to find the answer if it is worth it for yourself.
Obviously we know of the side effects and how to (mostly) take care of them before injecting shit
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>>77306124
Yeah, ostarine might not compare to the 1.2g of tren you roadmap vein motherfuckers inject into your ballsacks, but it still bulks at 10x the pace of natties. The cancer study of giving patients just 1-3mg added 5-7lbs of lean mass while they were sedentary laying in beds all day, let alone what it does in PED doses while lifting.
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>>77307023
WHY do you want to use EPO?
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>>77307653
Maybe he's a cyclist
What gear do endurance athletes even use? GH for recovery?
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>>77307898
That's why I asked him. Let's wait and watch the reason why
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>>77304709
100mg a week puts me at 800 and way over that if I test too early. I also have the gayest androgen receptors so I don't get shit out of it compared to some. Actual TRT dose that lets me do BJJ four days a week if I sleep/eat well
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>>77304884
I got good strength and endurance gains from it, not so much for muscle though. It is dry imo way more than dbol. It gave me bad shin/lowback pumps though
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>>77307653
I train extremely high volume and frequency for powerlifting which takes a toll when it accumulates. I also sometimes throw in OLY or sprinting just for fun
I want max recovery
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>>77308043
Based high volumer.
How much volume are we talking?
EPO is overkill IMHO. Maybe just Boldenone is enough? Don't play with hematocrit anon
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How much reta do you guys end up using if you want to shed ~15 lbs?
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>>77308309
An example with my incline bench
I do 2 warmups, triple, light set (75%1rm in the 5-6 reps), 2rm, light set, 2rm, light set, 1rm, 90% 1rm for another two sets
Im way more aggressive with squat and less with deadlift and bench. I want to start going ham with deadlift which is why im looking into epos
>Maybe just Boldenone is enough? Don't play with hematocrit anon
Thanks i will look into that
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>>77308421
Start low and see how it impacts appetite. You want the lowest possible dose that's effective so you dont have sides and to save money.
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Is pinning 3 times a week better than 2?
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>>77308622
Of course it is. Unless you get sores from every injection, it's always better to spread it out over lower doses.
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>>77308622
EOD > all
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>>77308671
No that's a pain in the ass literally
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>>77308721
Are you new to pinning? I only experienced pain the first month or two. Don't inject in the same spot every time.
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Does Deca or Tren increase prolactin more?
I ran 300 NPP with only p5p just fine, does that mean I can also run 300 Tren or should I start lower?
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>>77307385
1.2g tren into my balls for easy lean mass gains you say? i'm there
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>>77308447
i'm not that anon, but why the up weight change every set? i'm dumb and do bro splits, but high rep to me is 3 or 4 sets 15-20 reps. i don't do 1rm since i've hurt myself a bunch, so i'm not sure what % max i'm doing these at, but the 1st set is whatever, 2nd a little harder to finish, 3rs to failure, and 4th i'm praying to whoever might be listening to get that damn bar up
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>>77308867
i have no idea, but my personal experience is 1g test 750 deca had no problems. 1g test 1g tren no problems. 160mg test 600 tren, and it takes an act of god to cum
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>>77308982
Instead of resting for 10 minutes i do sets in between as a form of active rest
Also i have this mental tick with bench and squat to where my negative is usually absurdly slow so i get 0 momentum to help me lift and every rep in a working/heavy set becomes a pause, doing an aggressive light set between heavy ones helps me mentally to lift with intent in my next 1rm.
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>>77308995
aahhh okay so like a crazy tempo sorta leaves you time to recover while you're actively doing something? think i getcha. interesting! i would die. haha! some movements absolutely gas me
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A friend of mine is trying to conceive but he has low sperm motility, I think he tried clomid but that didn't really help.
He has never done steroids or test injections, could hcg/hmg help him or not?
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What's a good mini-fridge for peptides? I got one of those little soda fridges and it was ok, probably a bit too warm. But then it died in less than a year.
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I'm looking into anavar and I keep seeing the mostly wildly varied opinions on it. Some people say it's the most amazing thing ever and then I read on and someone will tell me it's so weak that it's not worth any of the side effects. I also see people claiming they take like 80mg a day. Are they all lying or what's the deal here?
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want prim but dont want to get scammed
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>>77309458
>not worth any of the side effects


minimal sides unless you take a lot. No water weight, bitch tits, broken dick, or acne like with other compounds
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>>77309345
Try these in this order:
#1 Enclomiphene
#2 Tamoxifen
#3 HCG
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I pinned some BPC 157 subQ into my stomach years ago for a knee injury and could never avoid ridiculous bruising. What gives? Tried doing it fast, slow, whatever techniques and it always fucked me up. Is something like test intramuscularly not as bad?
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>>77309458
First week into my 300 test 20 var cycle. Already feel stronger than on my first 500 test cycle, with less oily skin and no acne so far.
500 test would also cause estrogen sides but I took an AI for those so they didn't happen, except for maybe slight bloating. Now I'm on half the AI dose and it's enough, also zero bloating so far.
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>>77309551
First week? Damn. I thought anavar was supposed to work slowly.
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>>77306918
No idea.
Unless you are competing there is no reason to ever use roids.
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>>77309596
Everyone roids before they even start to compete at anything to get ahead of the competition. You're extremely naive
Not saying anyone itt will amount to anything but you get my point, if you have competition prospects you need to even the grounds first
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>>77309596
I roid because there is a kind of tranny who loves to butt fuck muscular men and I like being one of those men (I get butt fucked by trannies (not memeing))
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Maybe if I double my tren dose she will come back into my life.
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>>77309584
It has a 9 hour half-life, that's the reason I take it twice a day, it takes no more than a couple days to reach stable levels and work as it should. Test on the other hand you have to front load to make it work from the beginning, unless you're pinning propionate, and even so you may want to front load
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>>77305327
Ostarine + enclo gave me the opposite problem. I was fatigued all the time and could nap all day if I wanted to. I put on a solid 10 pounds in 8 weeks, but I felt like shit pretty much the entire time I was on cycle. I think enclo specifically can fuck up your estrogen and either overstimulate you when you want to sleep or crash your energy depending on if it's too high/low. Ironically you can get low e2 symptoms on enclo even though it doubles it because it blocks estrogen receptors in the brain
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>>77309752
she will bro. you just have to find the right tren dose. increase it weekly until she's back
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>>77309856
250mg/wk so far and only action I am getting is from a 20yo blonde bimbo… I don’t want her I want my ex
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ran 2 cycles of test, and one of test tren before i'm planning on doing a test eq more of a long one for the first time and with more experience. any advices? like cardio wise training wise food sleeping wise. not really bald ones in my family but the hair loss is always scary lmfao
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>>77309944
Define "long" like 30wks? Doses? Cardio good, mainly stuff to actually get you breathing heavy so jogging/hills intensity. Training wise, same progressive overload but controlled reps are better than chasing ego weight increases (if you can't stop mid rep and hold for a second then the weight is too heavy) again intensity is more important for muscle mass and improvements than hitting arbitrary numbers (cheater reps to hit your rep/set goals is a waste of time vs full intense reps to failure). Food wise keep your nutrition dialed, protein good carbs good calories good maintenance good. Sleep is the best anabolic out there, recovery is extremely important so get your 7+ hours of sleep every night, don't play 1 more game at 2am because your 300lb friend doesn't work tomorrow, GOOD deep restful sleep not a power nap where you aren't REM. Hair loss isn't a big deal stop worrying about it. Manage E2 and Prolactin so you don't get Gyno or acne or tendonitis.
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>>77304615
exactly. i can’t even imagine how devastating it must feel to have the knowledge that you’re now a slave to a needle for the rest of your life also i’ve seen pics of atrophied testicles and lmao no thanks you might as well be a little girl
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>>77304866
Small dose of TRT injection or 1 Andro or 4 Andro transdermal as a test base and Rad140/Ostarine or (real) anavar.

More advanced would be to add in mild to moderate injectable EQ and NPP with low to mid test for a superman stack, say 250-300mg test, 375mg EQ, 150mg NPP per week depending on your size, but that's pretty high level if you're a hobbyist and life time natty. A very easy semi legal thing to run would be transdermal 4-Andro prohormone cream and 20mg Ostarine per day or 10mg RAD 140 per day. Var at 30mg would be great too but make sure you dont get Winny sold as var or your joints will be fucked doing fight training. Cardarine pills for endurance and mk677 pills for recovery would be a great semi legal add on too, but the prohormone cream and SARM would be driving your training.
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>>77307385
They gained that much mass precisely because they were old and bedridden and the Osta was the only stimulus they had, eliciting a bigger over response and correction then in an active young man already weight training
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>>77309478
Yes, and then for pure motility injectable glutathione has shown promise as well after the Enclo or HMG gets some sperm created>>77309478
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>>77309976
long as +20 weeks, i've been thinking of running 500mg test e 500mg EQ for the first 2 months to see how my body reacts
>Sleep is the best anabolic out there, recovery is extremely important so get your 7+ hours of sleep every night
i will take that into account the most, i already do cardio 5 to 6 times a week
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>>77304215
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Did anyone here start frauding while already having some upper back acne? Am I doomed if I ever start?
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I'm 34, been lifting for 3 years natty until 2 months ago. Sex drive went up dramatically after getting /fit/. I've been taking about 10 units of Test-C for about 2 months. Mostly started taking it to see if it'd help out my Bipolar-2 depressive episodes. Naturally its helped me put on a little muscle as well, my energy is up, but my sex drive is out of control. I'm having to jack off 3-4 times a day and am on Tinder repeatedly looking to stick my dick in anything that'll take it. Is this normal?
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Do I need any PCT if I'm only injecting 100mg of test cypionate a week? At such a low dose, can I take this stuff for months on end without risk?
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>>77310126
>to see if it'd help out my Bipolar-2 depressive episodes.
lmao natties are such retards
>having to jack off 3-4 times a day and am on Tinder repeatedly looking to stick my dick in anything that'll take it. Is this normal?
yes. It should calm down after a bit though. idk if you'll actually be less horny but at a certain point you'll realize you need to live your life.
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>>77310142
>lmao natties are such retards
Nothing else has worked until this, got any suggestions?

>yes. It should calm down after a bit though. idk if you'll actually be less horny but at a certain point you'll realize you need to live your life.
God I hope so
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>>77309458
Pop a fifty mg Var and 10mg Tadalafil (Cialis), carb TF up all 1-1.5hr PWO and prepare for the best pumps of your life.
used to get so much blood flow in my forearm it felt like a blood vessel was clicking it was so full of blood and my hands were so filled with blood I couldn’t really open them for 10min after arm day.
>obv you have a test base. RIGHT?
>if you don’t, you’re stupid, get over your fear of sneedles.
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>>77310134
that is a TRT dose that trannies do for their entire life so... no?
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>>77309927
smallest dose gets the lowest hanging fruit
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>>77310108
>> claims long cycle
>> says completely normal cycle duration
are you one of those 12 week cycle faggots? fuck off
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>>77310170
lol check out this natty retard
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>>77310144
i'm not that anon, but exogenous test, or other roids in general, do nothing for mental health. period. all that "oh man i turned into such a chad alpha" rhetoric is pure nonsense. it does have you in a new routine, but i'm sure your mood improving from disrupting your pity party death spiral is just a coincidence. enjoy your placebo while it lasts. you'll need to double the dose in a month, double it again a month after that, then you'll never feel this way again
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>>77310134
Need? No. It does make production recover quicker though. No matter what it will suck if your test crashes. Also that's a placebo dose. 200mg is considered a cruise dose as it's safe for most men and puts you in the upper limit of the range. You might even go a little over if you're a good responder. 100 will put you just at normal levels. At that point just do enclomiphene, even that will often get you into the high range alone.
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>>77310150
Yeah, this will be me second cycle, first cycle was 500mg test.
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How much should one vial of 200 mg / ml test cypionate cost me? (Online, non-prescption)
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>>77310432
Domestic: $35-40ish
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Well guys I did something very silly.

Instead of injecting 250mg a week I was doing a little over 600mg. I was doing .35mg a day. Not .14

I thought the guy in my online steroid group was helping me out with my cycle but my socially retarded ass didn’t realize he was telling me his cycle.

I noticed something was off cause my BP was a little elevated despite being on 50mg of metoprolol and 20mg of lisinopril. Nothing major just reading like 120-134 over 80-95. So I found a calculator and did the math.

Idk if it’s placebo but my arms look great though. But I’m dropping to .14mg a day
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>>77310432
Anything over $50 is too much for a 250mg strength vial
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Just pinned my first ml / 250mg test ever
That was scary. Time to get big.
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>>77304719
Some kind of Lobster. But high minimum order limit.
You could partake in a group buy, but idk how to find one
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I've only used anavar (20 mg) when it comes to oral AAS, but I honestly feel like LGD (10mg) did a pretty decent job in terms of gains and strength compared to anavar, at least for me. I ran both with HCG.

My most disappointing cycles so far have been AC-262 (lol) and 300mg test.
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>>77310329
Yeah the only time roids help mental health is if you're an extreme testlet and then you should just do trt. Roids make body dysmorphia worse and letting your e2 swing hard can send you into a spiral if you aren't already mentally grounded. Just in general everyone I've known with mental health issues that roids is measurably worse: depression, anxiety, body dysmorphia.
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I want to improve my flexibility and mobility as quickly as possible for combat "sports".

I'm currently using a Klow blend, which gives me 400 mcg of TB-500 and 400 mcg of BPC-157 per day.

What is the maximum dosage? I also have individual vials of both peptides lying around.

And what about underance? Is there things that aren't EPO/Cardarine? Inhalers?
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>>77311035
kek I remember my first injection. I had a huge adrenaline rush. I'm not afraid of needles at all. It was just the rush of entering into the unknown.
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>>77310752
well, now you know what 600's like. lol
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>>77311146
ah yeah, I'll give you that one. if you have a legitimate medical issue related to hormones, regulating them will help. i've only seen one person come through here with a primary issue though. everyone else going on about their low t is just fat/lazy/super stressed/drunk, so exogenous test is just masking the symptons of a different issue. hah yeah you're right about the dysmorphia and e2 for sure
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>>77311155
the only thing i recall helping flexibility straight up undoes your collegen, so you'll 100% tear some shit while grappling. tb/bpc are recovery placebos. they aint doin shit for you to suck your own dick. endurance cardarine for sure. everything else makes your endurance worse
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>>77311204
what about EQ?
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>>77308671
**ED joined the chat**
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>>77309345
Of course
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>>77309498
Isn't BPC157 local?
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>>77309498
If you suffer with subq injections IM is your friend, yes. That said, with subq I would avoid the belly region. Maybe that's the problem
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>>77309856
Kek
Don't do that anon
Tren is for gay people
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>>77309976
How's e2 and prolactin are related to tendonitis
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>>77310126
>10 units
That's a volume. Not a dose. We always talk in weekly mg (injectables), daily mg (orals).
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>>77310752
Lmao.
God bless anon. Never play with insulin, ok?
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>>77311271
ESL shitskin
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>>77304215
This hyrox guy claims he is natty, thoughts?
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>>77311493
He's probably done a cycle or two. His size isn't particularly impressive but he has that fraud fullness. A real natty is either fat or they have a flat look when they're lean.
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>>77311493
Unless a guy is absolutely massive it's pretty much impossible to tell if they're natty or not unless you have pictures of what they used to look like in their late teens / early twenties. Some people just have naturally good physiques.
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Fuck it I'm pinning quads for 2 months straight until the PIP goes away or I decide to try something else and give up
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>>77311214
i haven't heard that about eq. it might though. never looked into it. i usual hear it used for e2 sides control
>>77311268
shh! don't tell him! haha!
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>>77308614
Thanks. I guess I will start with 1mg per week and see how it goes. Cutting below 8% is pure torture. Doubly so now that I know glp-1 agonists exist.
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>>77308614
Thanks. I guess I will start with 1mg per week and see how it goes. Cutting below 8% is pure torture. Doubly so now that I know glp-1 agonists exist.
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What will a trt doc think of my bloodwork
>LH 2.3
>FSH 1.1
>Testosterone 4.9 nmol
>Testosterone Free 145 pmol
>shbg 11.9
>ALT 64
>HDL Cholesterol 0.88
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whats going on w n4psg3ar?
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>>77311493
Yeah that's normal. Look at Ryan Fisch looks like or what Marcus Filly USED to look like. Tanner Shuck looks like it too. This even applies for women.
>Lots ab work and activation (russian twists, bear crawls)
>Focus on explosive leg stuff (the push press, box jumps)
>medium volume, mediums weights (think 12-15 at 60% 1RM)
>fuck loads of calisthenics for arms+shoulders (think burpees, slam ropes, tire flips)
You notice that there's one big thing I haven't mentioned yet, INTENSITY.
Cuase in Crossfit or Hyrox competetions there's also distance/endurance challenges like sprints or a 1K.
None of these are conducive or relevant to classic enhancments except MAYBE a TRT dose and some peptides or HGH. MAYBE albuterol.

As a result, you get a lean AF yet blocky big abs.
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>>77311817
you really think this guy is natty? lol
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BPC-157, Tb10, or both for injuries?
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>he doubled his dose to start his cycle and now has shit ton of anxiety
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Roiding is stupid as fuck. Enjoy your heart attack when you’re 38. And then again when you’re 45. And again when you’re 50. And increased risk of cancer. And balding. And permanent acne scars.
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>>77312300
None of these things happen
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>>77311867
Alright. I'll concede. He's not blasting androgen or DHT, but his gut/abs are looking a little SUS. Even prime Buges's abs didnt look like that.

But are you noticing the "built fridge"mode Crosshitters/Hyroxtards have? It's the training regimen combined with enhancements that cause that weird phenotype. Also look as pro women cross fitters. they look even sillier in built fridge mode.
>also just notice his chest. Yeach that ain't fat or pec development. Poor dude got slapped with gyno.
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>>77312308
Meaning he has a test base of some kind, but he isn't slamming primo and mast in concert with it. Looks like he's a dirty diana enthusiast
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>>77311484
Poland, actually
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>>77311769
What they did
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>>77312349
Low estrogen sides collagen tendon pain which if you work through it can contribute to tendonitis in the long run but it is easily avoided; that's about it.
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>>77310752
Me again. .14 test isn’t hitting the same as .35
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>>77304215
Is taking peptides considered leaving humanity behind?
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>>77312466
Anything under 500mg test a week is natty
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>pull bac water
>stick needle in powder vial
>sucks the plunger down at mach 10
why
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>>77312484
that's just how a vacuum works
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>>77312519
why is my vial under vacuum? it never happened when i was retarded and paying 10x for single vials
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>>77312527
keeps bacteria out
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My nuts shrank in like 8 days. God damn that was fast
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>>77312435
no foolin? don't worry. no matter the dose, that just started feeling will fade within months, and you'll never feel it again
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>>77312530
this. if you're getting lypholized stuff that's not vacuum sealed, assume it's tainted/spoiled. it's garbage. even the shittiest chinks vacuum seal their shit. never use that other ugl again. they're liable to get you killed
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>>77310059
thats not how that works anon....
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>>77304215
how does one find sourcing? trying to source test and gh at a reasonable price while also being deathly afraid of getting bunk. any forums to shoot me in the direction of?
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>>77312602
google.com
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>>77312730
how do i know its a good purity? janoshik?
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>2nd week on enclo
>brutal insomnia
>most insane fucked up dreams and shallow sleep ever, waking up with deep blue bags under my eyes
Is this high or low e2? One of my hormonal feedback loops definitely shit the bed though
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>>77312845
At what time of the day do you take it and at what dose?
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>>77312556
they bounce back
my nuts hang about the same as they did prior
but that was winter… maybe im wrong
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>>77312602
Unironically check reddit. They're less gay about source talk than the cp anime nazi site for some reason.
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Is S-23 worth it? I want to try it for a cutting cycle. I will be using a TRT dose of test.
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>>77312602
meso and eroids. meso has less expensive sources. anything you find on google is a toss up, so always google for what sources you find. if you don't find lots of mostly positive recent chatter about a source, it's a scam. if a source only pops up in a few places, it's a scam. if a source only pops up on other sites that have nothing but lists of shit, it's a scam. if a source only pops up in forums that have top and/or recent posts with many pages of responses that are talking about mewing, anything that contains "pill" in the subject (e.g. red pill me on...), or anything with alpha/chad/incel in the subject, then it's a scam. old fucks discuss sources, purity, and safe/sane cycles. children talk about useless garbage, sarms, and how to pick up chicks. anon talks about trenny, and trannies. oh and yes, any good source will have jano reports on aas + hgh
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>>77304215
How do I get Ephedrine in Canada?? They used to have it at Popeye's when I last got shredded 10 years ago :(
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>>77312586
Sad but true
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It's insane to me that people who live in the US ask here how could they find a source. How these people live?
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>>77313433
We've been trained to go through a doctor for literally anything health related even common colds and flu
Takes a bit of doing to change your thought patterns enough to do things yourself instead of relying on that system
They're blind because they've never had to use their eyes before
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What STG sellers do you guise use for peptides? Need some bpc and bac water but my normal vendor is out of stock.
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>>77313524
It doesn't matter
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does the leftover test in the needle head count as the dosage? First i pull it to 30 units, pull it back some more to get what's in the needle head, and then when i push it forward again so a little drop comes out before injecting it's always a little less than 30.
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>>77313433
If I was an american I'd just hop on SARMs, crash my test and then go to a HRT clinic. Seems like a fairly easy hack, unless I'm retarded and missing something.
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>>77313651
Because trt is low dose and expensive, extremely poor value
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>>77313649
No? I always add a tiny smidge over the line to account for the bit left in the needle tip but when I finish pinning and try to push more out over the sink nothing comes out anyways.
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>>77313787
I see, I thought generic meds were relatively cheap.
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>>77313651
TRT docs know this trick and as a result you're essentially paying for a bribe for 200mg/week. Or they pretty much know you're using them as legal cover.

Urologists are cheaper at 90 for a 3 months supply. BUT they follow the AUA rules of that TRT patients are to be low than 750 ng/dl.
>This is straight up ignorant of the TRAVERS Study btw. which demonstrated that even 200mg/week (lol) produced no negative outcomes in olheads (>50)
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>>77313828
I wouldn't mind paying $90 for 3 months of pharma grade gear, I'd throw my own UGL gear on top of of it tho.
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>>77313651
>>77313828
You don't even really need to do this. Telehealth clinics focused on "optimization" will often let you do a high dose. I had 200mg test cream and my doc's reaction to 1200 total test was whether I had negative sides or not.
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is 300mg test cyp a blast? first time user, only used SARMs before.
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>>77313882
no
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clen for lifting? always used it for cardio but i have some extra and just realized i never used it for it
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>>77312875
I take upon awakening and roughly 7-10mg/day. I take DIM to try and help with the estrogen sides, but I'm way too amped at night. Should I do 1 day on and a few days off like some suggest to clear out the estrogen receptors?
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>>77314130
smoke em if u gottem
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>>77313882
yes. 350 is a good starting dose but 300 is fine
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>>77313824
Test itself is cheap but often the wellness clinic or whatever will put you on a very expensive "plan"
Cheapest is and always will be buying it on the grey market even in US and choosing the dose, ester, etc yourself
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I think Jardiance might be giving me ketoacidosis. Be advised to not take it if you already have low blood sugar levels and don't eat enough carbs. It's great otherwise but sadly not for me.
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>>77313882
Get your bloods done
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Is this shit overpriced? Osgear is one of the most reputable sites on eroids, so even if I overpaid, at least I can rest assured I'll at least receive it.
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>>77311106
How was your post-cycle recovery? How long of cycles? How much HCG did you use?
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>>77314503
Yes
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>>77314503
Can get that for 30% of what you're paying from US sites I see on eroids
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Any of you frauds buy test or var from China?Should I only use them for peptides?
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>>77314553
my chinese var is strong as shit i love it
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>>77314422
this. $90/mo, or $250 for 3 months. that gets you 1 10ml vial of 200mg/ml. your typical expensive us domestic is 10ml 250mg/ml for $30-$50
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>>77314553
china is fine. india 9/10 is a scam. they'll 100% ship you something, but best odds it's fucking drain cleaner or some shit
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>>77314775
oh, and the 1 that does ship what you ordered sends only garbage that's less than 80% pure. decent indian sources do exist, but good fuckin luck finding them if you don't already know someone
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>>77314777
Hilma and Deus? Some of the biggest in Europe and they're Indian.
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>>77314847
anxiously reading this with a depot of hilma biocare test C sitting in my glute right now.
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>>77314538
PCT was meh, I recovered but I dont like being on enclomiphene. It gets praised a lot but I find that it does affect my mood and vision a little bit. People always downplay me saying that by saying it must have actually been closed.

Both cycles were 60 days. I used 150IUs of hcg per day, but the vials might be overdosed a little bit according to the janoshik report the supplier has, so I may have been injecting more.
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I have high prolactin and I'm looking to bring it down to normal range.
How do I achieve it without paying through the nose for meds?
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>>77315011
p5p?
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>>77315011
Stop beating off and use proviron but if you use proviron you're going to beat off ten times a day
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i'll do a little bit of blogposting cause who gives a shit but i'm starting a new job very soon in a pharmaceutical warehouse where basically it i'll be me and one of my ex coworkers from years ago who hooked me up with this job in which we kinda did the same thing years ago (pick pack ship meds). thing is though there's not only the warehouse side of it but the actual pharmaceutical in which there's only women. i've ran tren before at stupid dosages for a beginner and got angrier and stupider (like couldn't concentrate at all) i've ran 500mg tren e a week on top of my test, i'm thinking of of doing tren a this time and probably a way lower dose like 200-300 depending on how i'm feeling. i don't wanna snap at one of the ladies one day out of nowhere do you guys felt that same maniac state on lower dosages of tren? if so i'll probably will just run test with another compound
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>>77315017
this, no idk the dosage but the bottle says 1-2 a day so I take about 4 a day
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>>77315112
“IF YOU CANT CONTROL YOUR EMOTIONS ON TREN THEN YOU ARE NOT WORTHY” -TRENELATIONS 14:88
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>>77315160
what a trengedy
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>>77315160
I wish I could be on tren 24x7 for the emotions. I love being manipulative and obsessive and intense. I love the pain.
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>>77314503
Extremely overpriced or Americans are paying a ridiculous price nowadays, idk.
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>>77315034
I'm using Proviron and I agree 100%
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>>77314540
>>77314551
>>77315356
Mind sharing the site where you guys are getting test cypionate for so much cheaper?
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>>77315590
Don't want to get banned. Just look on eroids or mesoforum (now called thinksteroids).
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>>77315590
steroids.4chan.org. you have to buy a 4chan pass to access it though.
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How long does it take your health markers to improve after a cycle?
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My nuts shrank in a week and I’m noticing hairs starting to fall out, scalp acne

That was fast
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>>77314861
Should be good I've used it for months
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>>77315590
I don't know how much I can share here. I'm a jannie's law abiding netizen.
That said, the website above, there are various different options there.
International option is always cheaper and the TD is as guaranteed as buying a peptide from China.
The print attached is from the best brand available.
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>>77315682
how's the weather in Chernobyl?
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>>77315853
The domestic should be like 30-40 and the international should be 10 or less
look elsewhere
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>>77315590
>>77314503
What country are you in? All of the top reviewed sellers on eroids from the US have much cheaper test.
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>>77314847
sorry, us defaultism, and too many times seeing people ask about indiamart. good call out
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>>77315112
1g a week i was apparently difficult. 300mg was whatever. 600mg i call annoying drivers a "stupid fuckin bitch" in spite of my kids being in the car
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>>77315590
there is not one ugl that has a website i have come across that has not charged outrageous prices. all the normal ones only have whatsapp or telegram or a privacy centric email. if you find a ugl using gmail/yahoo/other freebie public providers like those, run
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>>77315920
fuck where are you finding intl for $10? cheapest i've seen lately was $15, but the min order was $3k. most intl i've seen that actually have oils in stock are $18-25 now
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>>77315920
>comparing Pharmacom to chinkchong bathtub from Wuhan-China.
Ok
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>>77315005
It absolutely can affect mood and vision, anyone telling you otherwise is retarded. Everyone is going to react differently to it in varying amounts. I'd say for most people it works great though. Dosing can also greatly affect the sides. 6.25mg is far less likely to cause issues than 12.5 or 25. That being said, 25 is the best "recovery" dose as that produces the biggest increase in LH and FSH from the drug. Any higher it doesn't really do anything.

>>77315034
>>77315397
Is there a stack that basically maximizes libido?

On the peptide side of things, the results are fairly disappointing. PT-141 doesn't last long, MT2 lasts longer but you can get darkened skin, burn easier etc.
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Do you need to increase protein intake on gear or is 1g/lb sufficient?
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>>77316235
1g per kg+10-20g is more than enough in any case
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>>77316235
It’s per lb of lean muscle mass, so generally 150g protein per day is good enough unless you are massive then 180g-200g. I hit 160g easily and then a bunch of carbs post workout but not 2hr before to sleep.
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It's a bit hard to push the last bit of pee out, should I buy prostate supplements?
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>>77315943
USA. I had success ordering other non-roid stuff from osgear so I guess I just bought the test Cyp without really comparing prices elsewhere. I had an international order from napsgear take a fucking month to arrive.
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>>77316508
push on your gooch behind ur balls to get the last bit out
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>>77316540
yeah a month for international is gonna be the new norm. used to be 2 weeks. might even be 4-6 soon enough. google meso, it'll pop up as a different website. go in there, find the link to community, make an account (burner emails are fine if you're worried about it), go to the steroids underground subforum, and just start clicking through everyone. you can search each thread for a price list. sometimes they'll have pastebin links, but often you need to get it from their whatsapp/telegram/discord groups. some of them want you to dm them in app
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>>77306918
>juice to look good
>look good to get laid
>juice ruins erection
>womp womp
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>>77316657
post erection
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>>77316657
juicing to get pussy is crazy cause the most coochie i got in my life was when i had some arms after training for a year and still a beer drinker belly
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>>77314847
Deus is Indian? Got my cortisol elevated thinking of the Deus bac water I just used in 3 vials
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I'm already sorta jacked for my height but not very strong imo
Get lots of compliments from both women and men but still not even at 2/3/4/5
What drugs can I do to fix this? I've done a newbie cycle and screwed around with roids for a couple years, some good experiences some bad
Don't really see much for that specifically
Probably just continue moderate blasts of test and some combo of deca, eq and mast plus an oral I guess
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>>77316773
I have gotten less pussy after frauding than prior. I am more focused on gym and diet and not drinking so I meet less and go out less. I should hop on apps but I really would rather jerk off 4 times a day.
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>>77317083
Deca and orals are good for mass, test and mast better for strength
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>>77316906
Yea but that doesn't mean they're bad.
A lot of medicine is made in India
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>>77316211
Proviron really helps brother
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>>77316738
>>77316906
Kek
>>77317093
That's unfortunately true. I think they're the second biggest producers in the world. That said I'd avoid it.
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If you took glp1s to get lean and probably need them to remain semi-lean, is it stupid to continue taking them while roiding since you need to eat above maintenance to gain muscle?
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>>77317192
Kind of? It’s ideal for cutting or maintaining but in theory you could still take it to stay lean on a bulk if you eat calorie dense food or shakes.
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>>77317192
Take them at a lower dose so you can adhere to your diet better and it also helps with cholesterol and insulin sensitivity
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>>77317091
Never heard mast was for strength, just cosmetics and mood/dht maxing
Probably do the next blast with test, eq, deca and dbol
Water weight be damned, need to get stronger and it seems the only way
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Any of you chuds pin rear delts? Any tips on how to best do it?
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>>77317192
There's pros and cons. Pros are you can stick to your diet, even a surplus, effectively. This is assuming that you take a dose that doesn't kill your appetite completely. Boosts insulin sensitivity.

Cons is increased RHR and lower HRV. Which could mean worse sleep and thus worse recovery.
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>>77317192
No they have pleitropic health benefits.

Be aware that GIP increases white adipose tissue proliferation and differentiation though.

And reta is way too strong at GIP, tirzeppy is comparatively weak at GIP with strong GLP-1 biased agonism
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Has anyone ever explained to those dummies with muscle wasting diseases and burn victims that they need to take a 250-500mg test cycle before they can hop onto anavar? Anavar is an advanced compound that newbies shouldn't play around with. Very infuriating to see them run ORAL ONLY cycles
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>>77317385
Run your muscle wasting cycle then
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>>77317318
No. Tirzepatide has more GIP than Reta. Tirzepatide is stronger and both gip and glp tools than Reta. That's why men use it and reddit guys that don't know shit use Redditrutide.
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>>77317391
Yeah, people who use anavar get ZERO gains, medical journals should stop publishing fake study results and listen more to bodybuilders with heart issues.
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>>77317417
Forgot the graph, for retartrutide users
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>>77310099
>More advanced would be to add in mild to moderate injectable EQ and NPP with low to mid test for a superman stack, say 250-300mg test, 375mg EQ, 150mg NPP per week depending on your size
What does that even mean?
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>>77317417
>>77317427
Wrong, don't reply to my post with dogshit AI slop
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>Internet has been out due to storm
>Supposed to be a rest day
FUCK MAN GUESS ILL DO LEGS
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whats the point of roiding? I never see the roid trannys lift anything heavy in my gym maybe one of them would bench 3 or 4 plate. I never see them squat though I squatted 335 5x5 yesterday. I looked up why cause gear use actually makes doing more sets heavy weight risky heart attacks and so on what a joke.
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>>77317083
Do you not understand how ridiculously strong a 2 plate OHP is? Wow! You cant get that, woopdeee dooo
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>>77317658
>squatted 335 5x5 yesterday
Is this supposed to be impressive
>. I looked up why cause gear use actually makes doing more sets heavy weight risky heart attacks and so on
Whoever got you that is based lol another filtered dweeb
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>>77317705
jason blaha. Most people on gear are abusing it and gear helps mask stress from lifting it masks it even more when abusing. Its why bodybuilders are paranoid to lift heavy and do baby weights cause they do not want to drop dead.
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>>77317538
Painfully wrong, go learn it please
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>>77304215
Am I gay for wanting to lick this up?
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>>77317714
>Unironically taking blaha seriously at any capacity
It's over for you
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oh man the weeks that you are waiting for your gear to arrive are so fucking long this is shitty side of a home gym, i don't have my oil-bro to get some asap
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How many days after pinning should I get blood work done if I pin twice a week?
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>>77318284
Injections on Sunday and Wednesday? Collect the blood right before the injection day, like Sunday or Wednesday morning/BEFORE pinning. The logic is doing it in the "valley".
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>>77318069
I have 10 weeks left(ish, might do longer) on my cycle but I have to buy another vial of Tren since I forgot to reup at the start... it's so over
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Starting npp tomorrow at 150mg being added on to 250 eq and 300 test. I just finished up a small cycle of 25mg Anavar for about 7 weeks and Cardarine for 50 days.

Going to cut for around 12-14 more weeks. CJC and IPAmorelin are great they make me able to train almost everyday if I want
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>>77319233
Also now that finished anavar will have a 4 week break then use tbol in stack as well.

I do 250 minutes or so of cardio at 5 incline and 3.5mph on top of my lifting and take plenty of ancillaries so my BP has zero issues ever
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>>77318284
Pin and twerk while they're drawing your blood
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>>77317820
Go plug it into your shitfuck AI and come up with a better reply
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Did first rear delt pin. Went fine
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Did my first side delt pin. I can't lift my left arm above my hip without shooting pain.
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Can anyone recommend a seller from the "Steroid Underground Meso-Rx thinksteroids" forum? Specifically for test Cyp
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>>77307898
The new meta for amateurs is trt test, low dose tren (like less than 50 mg/wk) and cardarine. No idea what the pros use since testing is so rigorous these days but I know that they were huffing carbon monoxide to increase hematocrit until it got banned and like half the peleton has a medical exemption for telmisartan and/or tirzepatide and/or cialis.
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>>77319486
C ya tomorrow.
I did it with front a week ago and took like 3 days for the PIP to leave
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>>77319591
Interesting answer. Do you do crits? How did you come across this answer
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>>77317425
Just do it nigger nobody cares
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>>77319559
primal
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>>77319641
>>77319641
Ex-racer, got into lifting and bodybuilding five or six years ago and now I’m pretty obviously roided. These days I mainly ride for fun and do some bike touring (still ride 12-15 hours a week in season) but I still hang out with a lot dudes that race. A couple of them dope and they all know other guys that do as well. I’ve had a few younger guys approach me and straight up ask about PEDs and where to get them and the boomers all want to talk about their stack (they all run 200 test 200 mg deca and 2-4 iu gh). The younger guys go with super low doses to keep their weight down, they just want the recovery. Some of them will run lower dose gh as well. I’m doing some training over the summer to get in shape for a month long tour this winter and I’m running cardarine 4 iu gh 250 test 150 primo 150 tren and 350 mast. It’s too much for pure endurance but the recovery is insane. I’ll drop everything hut test and primo sometime in the fall but I still wanna look good for the summer while I’m cutting.
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>>77319743
Cardarine is still too risky for me. And I'm curious what 50mg of tren even does for them. Also I'm learning about people doping to cheat on zwift lmao. Every year when the weather gets nice I think I should buy a road bike, but I live in such a shit area that I never do.
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>>77319559
dont use steroids. if you can't click through a fucking list, you are absolutely going to fuck your shit up. get the fuck out of here before you hurt yourself, you stupid fucking double nigger. fuck off
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I NEED MORE FOOOOOOOOD
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ketamine use on a test cycle? not really into molly at raves because of the comedown but my weed and ket are non negotiable
also not planning on going out every weekend but more of a 1 rave a month
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>>77317703
I'm at 202.5x1 at 200bw
Decent but not super strong for experienced lifters
I want more, that's the whole point of roids and lifting in general
What are you, gay
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>>77319423
>OMG HE USED AI I'LL REFUTE HIM SEARCHING ON GOOGLE
Anon, I...

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