>>77313667
Why is there always some inexplicable nastiness to roid physiques? Is it the skin?

>>77313667
>The Raped
Yep he looks raped

>>77313676
Bad hormones

>>77313667
Still mogs 90% of /fit/

>>77313688
He could take all the steroids he wants I am still stronger in the real world. Lmk when he can ohp me or jump while holding me.

>>77313692
You're probably a fatso, I'd have to not even hold back while doing a push press with you for one.

>>77313676
it rots your insides slowly

Roidtrannies start with "I will reap the benefits, jump off gear and retain muscle" while ignoring millions of examples like this

>>77313676
you tried to hide the damage inside, but it seeps out.

>>77313676
it is very explicable

>>77313667
QRD?
All I know is that this guy is the new Andrew Tate but specifically for looksmaxxers

>>77313676
shit genetics

>>77313805
nose jobs drains exogenous testosterone from your body, putting it into a deep autophagy, basically losing all your /fraud/ development.

>>77313806
>implying humans evolved to trannify on thai roids

>>77313676
Hormones give you bad skin, plus when they take these photos they're usually at the peak of their cut and dehydrated as fuck, to get that wax paper skin effect for maximum definition, which also makes you look a but uncanny

>>77313667
ok I looked this up and he's in the chair because he got leg lengthening surgery? holy shit lmao i thought that was literally made up by /fit/

>>77313667
the meta for fame is to be extreme until you don't have to be any more. be an idiot, say as much dumb shit as possible, do as much dumb shit as possible, film it all, clipfarm your idiocy to get as much attention as possible. once you've got a community, you can dial down the extreme and focus on chilling. people will expect the worst of you so when you start acting normal people will go "oh he's not so bad", and you've already got the attention to need for it to be a compelling story. he doesn't need to roid anymore or say too much dumb shit, he has status and can just vibe now and make tonnes of money. pretty simple

>>77313970
He got really insecure after he (voluntarily) revealed that he was wearing lifts on stream and people clowned him for it. This is a fun little trainwreck to watch, but we all know how it ends.

how insecure are these people, jesus christ lmao

>>77314021
This sounds implausible, how would this guy be ashamed by anything like that, it's like his whole deal to do anything it takes to be as attractive as possible. I'd expect him to be wearing lifts, and also a hairpeice, and also make-up, and also a strapon to make the dick print bigger and also

>>77313805
He was talking about leg lengthening surgery. Maybe that's what's going on.

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>>77313667
>roid trannies 2 weeks after hopping on gear

>>77314021
>>77314038
I can see it: he's getting limb lengthening surgery on his legs, hop back on hear, and snap his shit on his first day back

>leg lengthening surgery
Like I can understand the desperation of guys under 5'6" to do this but clavicular didnt look very short.
This shit costs a ton of money and you spend months literally unable to walk over it. Mental illness.

>>77313688
my foot is gonna mog your ass bitch

>>77313667
This dude is gonna end up eating a bullet isn’t he?

>>77313747
Can I have a layman's understanding of why this happens for roids

>>77313676
Dehydrated skin looks unhealthy because it is unhealthy. It's lethal.
But yeah TRT causes chemical dependency and your body pretty much stops producing its own because it's already being supplied by the injections.
The body (when healthy) maintains a steady equilibrium of estrogens and androgens, and getting off of these exogenous hormones cold turkey causes your body to forcibly produce a lot under strain to compensate for the sudden loss.
Lots of unnatural testosterone causes increased estrogen production to compensate which is why you get crybaby gyno dudes on roids, because the body is struggling to keep up the intended balance of both to maintain a healthy body and mind.

>>77314212
hormones are grocery lists the body uses to allocate resources to different areas for growth/breakdown

when you exercise, you are not exercising your muscles, you are exercising your nervous system

your nervous system adapts and uses hormones to make your body adapt with it (muscles, organs, connective tissues, tendons, bones, metabolism)

if you put hormones in your body that are shopping lists for only one thing in your body to make it grow, then it's not growing because your nervous system has adapted to the exercise

when you stop taking the hormones, your nervous system doesn't keep producing them at the same levels

also, if your organs haven't adapted and can't keep up with the resources it takes to sustain tissues, your body is going to sacrifice those tissues by breaking them down. also why roiders so commonly have heart attacks, because with hormones they stop the body from doing this.

>>77313676
It accelerates everything in your body cycle
The gains get accelerated as well as the aging
Its really, REALLY fucking funny to me that the LOOKSMAXX™ crowd dives so hard into these schedules that are working directly against their vanity
Gifted by the magi

>>77314032
It is wild how the exact same insults sent to Clav could also be sent to the majority of women for similar behavior. All he is doing is improving his looks, but god forbid a man do what women do in order to boost their attractiveness.

>>77314268
Bro for real. When you see these 10/10s, you have to ask yourself "Who is good enough to date them?"

>>77314016
High iq comment

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>>77313667
Saying that I frame-mogged him *used to be* a *little* impressive, but I'm also frame-mogging peak Zyzz these days. Inb5 Clav dies of surgical complications in Turkey early next year.

>>77313688
I'd say more like 30-50% these days and dropping.

>>77313667
What's the fucking point of steroids if the moment you stop using them you literally lose all your gainz?
Genuinely how retarded can you be?

>>77314316
there are countless roiders on test into their 70s

>>77314016
what's a smart nigga like you doing in a place like this

>>77314316
you lose most of your "gainz" if you stop "lifting" nattily too
"lifting" is a gay hobby invented by jewish homosexuals

>>77313676
triggers our uncanny valley response

>>77313667
LMAO what the fuck are those legs
bro is sub-human

>>77314268

probably the insane drag factor of his personality and lack of social skills lad.

>>77314212
roids make muscle big
roids stop body make natural hormones
stop taking roids muscle no more big
stop taking roids body still no natural hormone make

>>77313676
Violating the androgen receptors in your body and brain is the same concept as taking 30mg of adderall 3x/day and overloading your dopamine receptors. Your body maintains a delicate balance of neurochemistry and hormonal signaling, with most receptors being unfit to handle super saturation of these chemicals and hormones. It agitates the receptors sites to toxic levels, leading to a horrible chain reaction as your body's homeostasis attempts to regain an equilibrium. LH, FSH, cholesterol, estradiol, prolactin, dopamine, serotonin, electrolytes, cortisol, etc... these delicate systems get absolutely fucked when you take roids and especially when you cruise on them with no multi-month breaks in between.

TLDR; roidtrannies have hormonal tornados wreaking havoc across their bodies.

>>77314258
Here's some forbidden knowledge: the OG looksmaxxers were initially tied to the biohacking community and actually put longevity over short term results. That's why if you go on the forums, all the valuable quality threads are from oldfags in the 2010s doing write-ups on skin routines, healthy ways to cut, foods to eat for glowing skin, haircare routines, etc... Zoomers came in and introduced "hardmaxxing" endorsing surgeries, hard drugs, and various other forms of self mutilation, which resonated with the new wave of 15 year olds. Clavicular drawing the most attention to the org was the final nail in the coffin and permanently annihilated the idea of healthy looksmaxxing. Mods tried to save the site and even banned clav, but there was a janny civil war and the faggot teenagers gobbling down anavar, benzos to "low inhibmaxx", and pinning their ass with IGF-1 eventually took over.

nigga had difficulty repping 1 pl8 even when he was on roids
wtf?

>>77313970
No, he got a rhinoplasty. The leg cuffs are to stop DVT blood clots after surgery.

>>77314016
If you go on his twitter community, all his hardcore fans constantly hate him now.

>>77314322
Survivorship bias.

>>77313667
The amount of work roids do is amazing. They are such a cheat code it isn't even funny. You can literally do jack shit and get jacked. Outrageous. This is why I have zero respect for roiders because its so fucking easy for them. Gay!

>>77313667
He needs bbc

>>77314207
My money is on fent maxxing.

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>>77314584
And I'll bet he goes to Turkey next year to finally get LL surgery from "The Butcher," then dies of multidrug-resistant sepsis after bilateral above-knee amputations.

>>77314362
But why would your muscles atrophy, why wouldn't they just stay the same but stop growing any bigger?

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>>77314619
Mostly E3 ubiquitin ligases MuRF1 (TRIM63) and MAFbx/Atrogin-1 plus Glycogen synthase kinase 3 beta.
>t. fux doez up

>>77314207
hes not making it to 40 either way

>>77314281
Women don't like to think you are overcompensating, I look muscular and shit but femoids will always (instinctually) try to scan why you lift. If you hint "I don't like how I look" or something along those lines you will massively lose value in their eyes.
KEKvicular is basically that, he can look as good as possible but fems can tell he is insecure on the inside.

>>77314891
This. Iirc there was some study where women are attracted to "natural muscle" and negatively assigned value to actually working to gain muscles. It's stupid and backwards, but it's how their brains work.

Basically take care of yourself but keep the work required to yourself while downplaying how much you actually struggled.

>>77314207
He's getting mixed up with some seriously shady Israeli Mafia goons, this outcome is very likely.

>>77314032
>how would this guy be ashamed by anything like that
he's a self conscious autist with no actual confidence

>>77314935
Gooners have a mafia now? I'm not surprised it's based in Israel.

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>>77313667
Absolute faggot

>>77314917
>It's stupid and backwards, but it's how their brains work.
You're stupid and backwards, that's how your brain works.

The basis for attraction in women is the guarantee of healthy offspring, and offspring that has a high chance of producing its own offspring.

Testosterone is crucial for fertility. Females intuitively select for physical traits and mental traits that are indicative of two things: 1. highest chance of successful pregnancy, 2. genes that will pass on high fertility and desirable traits to the offspring. Since testosterone is crucial in fertility as well as the management of male-typical behaviour and male-typical physical traits, the outward signs of testosterone on body composition and behaviour are the most notable factors that influence the initial impression a female as of a male. This is the case for virtually all vertebrates, and is more the case for social species (such as humans).

Females select for these traits after generation, after generation, after generation, after generation, after generation, in some animal species physical traits that are highly associated with testosterone in males become more and more emphasized with each passing generation. Proboscis monkey's noses, peacock tails, lion's manes, baboon's asses, etc. Because at first sight, if it takes high levels of testosterone to have the biggest noses, the brightest tails, the biggest manes, the reddest asses, it's likely those males are very fertile. It's also very likely that any male children the female has with them, will have the genes that also make them very fertile (and very likely to be picked by other females).

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>>77313697
Lanky weak twink faggot. You look like an aids patient.

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>>77315031
>downplaying how much you actually struggled
This is where your retardation reaches even higher levels.

If you take virtually every study on testosterone and how it affects men, and you compile about 80 years of these studies, the ONE thing that is associated the most with increases in testosterone is a man's willingness to endure effort and pain. At a certain point, men will actively seek it out, even without a reward. Enduring the pain is the reward itself.

I hope it makes sense that, just like a big lion's mane is indicative of high testosterone to female lions, a man's willingness to struggle to achieve goals is indicative of high testosterone to human females.

Muscle mass is not indicative of testosterone. Testosterone has many functions and one of its many roles is regulation of muscle fibre in males. Tenacity, the pursuit of goals, physical strength, physical endurance, the acquisition of skills, those are indicative of testosterone. A body composition with musculature that is the consequence of these varied traits is an even stronger indication of testosterone. Muscle mass alone is not it.

>>77315033
Leafs look like this?

>>77314619
If you take the food away from a 600lb fatass nigger and throw them in a concentration camp do they stay the same weight? You're asking the same question come on silly anon

>>77313667
Was Clavicula really that big at one point?

>>77313667
wheres his clavicles

>>77313667
Just wait until the kidney and liver damage kicks in.

I used to know a girl. She was pretty, clear skin; good figurr, but an alcoholic and drug addict. At the age of 20 she destroyed her liver.

She ended up:
>Horrible yellow skin
>covered in facial sores and acne
>skeletally thin and dying-looking
>a pot-belly from liver fluid accumulation that needs to be drained at the hospital regularly

I feel bad for her, it truly is shocking and horrible. She went from an 8 or 9/10 to a 0/10.

I won't feel sorry for Clav when this happens to him. I don't know how he'll cope other than suicide given his entire life revolves around looksmaxxing.

>>77315477
He still will be rich after 10 years tho.

>>77313688
I hate how zoomers are misusing a term millenials invented.

The original term is amog. Do you know what "AMOG" even stands for? It stands for Alpha Male of Group. It means when you are more manly, bold, confident and dominant than all the other men around you. Clav is not an alpha male. He suffers from crippling anxiety and autism and takes benzos and other shit just to cope. Whenever he is even slightly criticized he becomes visibly on the verge of tears. I am pretty sure that all you'd have to do is threaten to break the nose he paid thousands for, and he'd suck your dick in fear. 99% of the men on this planet AMOG Clav.

>>77315486
He'll commit suicide. He only exists to looksmax. It is his autistic savant hyper-fixation.

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>>77313667
Do none of you retards realize the left pic is fucking fake? He has not lost all that muscle, because he never had it to begin with. He even admitted he photoshopped those physique pics in older posts. In reality he's never been jacked, he did get visible abs but at the cost of 13" arms lol

>>77315498
Clav has always been the very picture of
>roiding for this
Given that he literally does not work out and only take roids. He has stated himself that he doesn't work out. I am sure he would love to actually be super buff, but he clearly lacks the discipline to go regularly.

>>77315031
>The basis for attraction in women is the guarantee of healthy offspring
Imagine the incel you got to be to type that shit down and press submit.

>>77314247
>>77314362
If going off roids fucks you up so hard, why did he stop using them?

>>77314062
LMAO sadly true

>>77313676
It distorts everything since if you're pinning test you fk up your endocrine system rythm completely. Normally testosterone fluctuates during the day, peaks when waking up and is lowest when going to bed. Some activities can cause a temporary spike.

With roids it's nothing like this. The line of ng/dl stays very consistent and after a while is a downward slope, and then peaks again due to another injection. I'm fairly sure that this is one of the dynamics that makes test / roids stress the heart so much. While people with like 1400ng/dl or even higher don't have those issues.

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>>77315498
>he photoshopped those physique pics in older posts
Is that why this part looks like this? I can't even figure out what it is. It's not pelvic bone.

>>77315498
This
>cut, pump, angle, lighting, photoshop

>>77315599
>1400ng/dl
>natty
Ohh my sweet summer child

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>>77315477
>Just wait until the kidney and liver damage kicks in.
>>77315486
>He still will be rich after 10 years tho.
>>77315496
>He'll commit suicide. He only exists to looksmax. It is his autistic savant hyper-fixation.
Lmao this shit right here why I autistically hyper-fixate on taking shit like milk thistle and reading toxicology literature on any new compounds I try.

>>77315498
>>77315599
>>77315622
>>77315627
I even frame-mog his photoshoops a bit with 18" gunz at perpetrator w8, I could surely photoshoop my 'ceps up to like 22-24" now without you guize telling some of the pixels are off. But it's too much work so I won't post em, kek.

>>77315622
Yes, that's a result of shoddy editing

>>77313679
What the fuck are you saying?

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>>77315551
Nothing to do with incel ideology. That is entirely your own projection.

This is one of the cornerstones of all studies of how biology relates to human behaviour and psychology in general. Human palaeontology, behavioural endocrinology, behavioural neuroscience, take your pick. You'll find this in every single introductory textbook for first-year psychology students.

Every student learns about the "sweaty T-shirt experiment". Every human possesses a genetic "library" of different disease resistances, called the MCH gene. Every child inherits MCH coding from both parents. A child with parents who have very different MCH genes, will inherit the resistances from both. A child with parents who have very similar MCH genes, will have less variety in disease resistance than the other child. In an experiment, a number of women and men underwent testing for their MCH genes. Women were asked to smell the shirts worn by a selection of men and rate how much they liked the scent. Women very consistently rated the scents of males higher, who differed the most in their MCH genes.

I was pondering a book by Ayn Rand that had me thinking about looksmaxxing. Is it truely futile to exercise an exsistance predominantly powered by unfufilled exsistenial post bewilderment? Or is it merely the result of one’s own inner capitalistic mindset?

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>>77315031
>Females intuitively select for physical traits and mental traits that are indicative of two things: 1. highest chance of successful pregnancy, 2. genes that will pass on high fertility and desirable traits to the offspring
>and desirable traits to the offspring
.......

>>77316087
Sex drives for women are very much 0% or 110%. Either they treat you like subhuman scum or they are wrestling your cock out of your pants with frightening ferocity.

>>77317534
Blacks have behavior so alien to civilized society it would improve the field of sociology immensely to stratify them as a kind of city-wandering ape instead.

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>>77315629
I had 1132 ng/dl at 18 yo. There are also some anomalies with hormone distortions that somehow end up with way more. Androgen sensitivity and free test are better markers for hypertrophy though.

>>77314891
>KEKvicular is basically that, he can look as good as possible
Even with all his work done he's not a particularly good looking guy, above average but I still see better looking dudes everyday

>>77318400
They're turbo niggers for sure, but there is a somewhat based aspect to this

>>77315038
>man's willingness to struggle to achieve goals is indicative of high testosterone to human females.
No, women have no idea of struggle. It does not compute in their heads. They are born with baby-like faces and keep big eyed baby faces even in adulthood and even their behavior is designed to trick your instincts with "wah wah, I am just an innocent baby give me everything for free". They have never had to work for anything so the concept of effort is alien. They don't want to help you on your journey, they want to show up at the end and share your prize.

>>77314376
>nigga had difficulty repping 1 pl8 even when he was on roids
Ain't no fucking way that can be true...

>>77319052
If you don't work out and just take roids you never develop the central nervous system adaptations and remain at DYEL strength.

Also I am pretty sure he doesn't even eat enough protein to even achieve the level of roid muscle growth he should have given he is literally on tren. Probably afraid of putting on fat.

>>77315733
Redpill me on milk thistle

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>>77319398
Picrel clanker hallucination covers most of the basics. There is also a simulation sayin it's a more potent 5-ARI than fin.

He’ll be ok. He has a 9/10 face, just gotta make sure he keeps it so aging doesn’t rape him