>>77317177
And you’re a white dyel shitposting on a Saturday night

>>77317171
yes go vegan you will look as good as him in less than a year.

>>77317171
Being vegan or not won't give you any kind of physique just by being it

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>>77317177
>He’s a nigger if you haven’t noticed

Vegan is the proper humane diet

>>77317432
>pic rel
whos this chad>

>>77317171
He is obviously on roids. Also he is black so I doubt he is really vegan too.

>>77317171
if you aren't black you shouldn't compare yourself to them, they are generally leaner and dont need to put so much work to look "great".
veganism is retarded and so is everyone who eats like that.

>>77317450
Don’t listen to ketolards like this

Veganism is a great way to build a good body while staying healthy

>>77317171
I'm all for anyone doing any diet that works for them

REMINDER

>>77317455
W

>>77317495
Ok

>>77317455
For me, it’s full blown carbivore but I add fruit and honey for energy

>>77317500
Yeah, fruit and honey are both carbs.

>>77317498
Stfu

>>77317500
>>77317455
For me it’s omnivore i just eat whatever is yummy

>>77317500
>For me, it's carbs, but I add carbs.

>>77317505
>>77317498

>>77317502
True but if taken close to workouts they don’t count as carbs

>>77317505

>>77317171
It’s not suitable for a human diet since humans need vitamin B12 or else they themselves literally turn into a vegetable.

>>77317521
you can get B12 from yeast extracts

>>77317171
On paper I don't see why veganism can't work, since there isn't any nutrition that is exclusive to animal products. But personally, I find a clean nutritious diet quite restrictive even when it's omnivorous. It's already taking up a lot of attention to get a good balance of macros, enough protein and vitamins/ minerals, and I don't want to make my life even harder with more restriction. If the guy in the OP pic can handle the hassle of it, good for him.

>>77317450
>if you aren't black you shouldn't compare yourself to them, they are generally leaner
Since we have a ot of blakc in Europe now: No, no they aren't. In fact, they are pretty fat. So yes, OP's husband is on steroids.

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hes ether on roids or not really vegan that body is not possible on 1 year+ of real veganism

>>77317554
totally wrong about that also plant protein is about 1/4 as effective as animal protein because your body has to convert it to animal protein before it can be used

>>77317625
Take your meds schizo

>>77317625
Total gibberish. Your protein intake requires essential amino acids, of which all can be found in plant sources. Some sources, like ONIONS even have complete amino acid profiles. I'm not saying this from some ideological bias, I'm not even vegetarian let alone vegan, but get your facts straight.

>>77317171
Why not try it for yourself and see how that turns out

Did you faggots really have a meltdown over someone saying nigger? No wonder this place went to shit, it was infested by ledditors

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Vegan is not inherently healthy, the majority of vegans I know eat total fucking goyslop like oreos and gigaturbo ultra processed vegan premade dogshit all day and are mostly skinnyfat duels with high visceral fat. Its mostly a way for faggots and attention seekers to virtue signal while still eating trash.

>>77317674
That's not what "inherently healthy" entails but i still agree

vegans are filled with antinutrients and toxins, why would you want to be such a person

>>77317668
umm sweety? Racism isn't "based" it's actually... "cringe"

>>77317651
NTA but even s o y which has all 9 essential amino acids has a DIAAS score less than 1 because of it’s lower concentration of methionine and the fact that it does not get digested in the small intestine. That doesn’t mean it’s shit but it’s not ideal either.

>>77317432
How do nipples burn

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>>77317791
Running marathons

>>77317802
That's why I always tape my nipples.

>>77317851
You dont run marathons

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>>77317450
>if you aren't black you shouldn't compare yourself to them, they are generally leaner and dont need to put so much work to look "great".
American moment.

>>77317171
>Surely this obviously roided shitness influencer is telling the whole truth & certainly wouldn't misrepresent how he achieved this body for more views.

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>>77317171
Vegan for years. Vegetarian for decades. 40+.
It's absolutely possible to hit any macronutrient ratio you wish on a vegan diet. Meat, eggs, and dairy come with hidden costs like the cruelty of factory farming, ecological impacts, and health impacts like atherosclerosis. If it's important to you, you can make it work. >>77317625
>animal protein
Our bodies use amino acids to build muscle. It's not like you can only build hamstrings by eating someone else's hamstrings.

>>77317171
I don't even think this guy is natty or vegatarian

>>77317171
it's ethically the right thing to do. that is all.

>>77317171
Ok it's you life and death vs a bear in the woods.

>>77318081
>o hit any macronutrient
And no micros

>>77318246
For sure

>>77318081
Dang. Looking good.

>>77318081
>vegan because I HATE CRUELTY TO LIVING BEINGS
>posted from my iPhone which has lithium mined by 12 year old african slaves

>>77317171
>just ignore the copious amounts of steroids and do better anons

>>77318361
>>77318361
not him but that's a stupid point you're making.

>>77317171
If roids and veggies is what works for the melanated breeds then good for them but I'll consume what is for my best health rather than what makes negroes instagram ready.

>>77318413
This is true as we know vejanism is an antihuman movement steeped in nihilistic hatred.

>>77317171
Vegan + zero waste is pretty optimal for most people diet-wise. Almost everything that's bad for you either contains animal products or is wrapped in plastic, so avoiding these two is a simple heuristic to lose fat. Harder to gain muscle of course, but not impossible.

>>77318081
>Our bodies use amino acids to build muscle. It's not like you can only build hamstrings by eating someone else's hamstrings.
Nobody said that, but the amino acid profile of plant based proteins are objectively worse than animal protein. Protein quality is a thing. Also including some animal products means you don't have to supplement vitamins and minerals, which is a telltale sign that a diet is wrong.

>>77318561
>Protein quality is a thing.
It kinda isn't. The two components are amino acid profile, and protein digestibility. Provided you eat a mix of nuts, grain, and legumes, the amino acids will likely balance out. Or just onions which is balanced by itself. The in terms of digestibility, there isn't much difference unless you compare against plain whey protein or egg whites with nothing else added. Meat sources don't have perfect bioavailability either. Ironically, since the most digestible proteins are also simple ones that you can precision ferment, this makes vegan egg white powder or whey better than chicken or beef.

>>77318413
how is it stupid? kinda points out how shallow the vegan morality is.

>>77318621
>Provided you eat a mix of nuts, grain, and legumes, the amino acids will likely balance out.
Wrong
Mexicans do just that yet they're not jacked or tal or sturdy

>>77318627
You typically need a phone for work, and iPhone is probably going to have better employment conditions than some no-name brand. The only reason he brings it up is to try and associate vegans with expensive things to make them seem shallow and material. It also doesn't prove much, given he probably has an iPhone and eats meat so is worse than the vegans. Then finally, many vegans are into zero waste and sustainable sourcing so have second hand phones and clothes, likely at far higher rates than the general population.

The argument is essentially: “You're trying to be better? Well you aren't perfect so that proves you don't care at all.”

>>77318631
What is the average Mexican diet? How healthy is the average Mexican? I feel like you don't live in Mexico so don't have an idea of either of those. You're just looking at Mexicans who live in the US and are fat like Americans, then imagining that all they eat is Chipotle and concluding beans are bad for you.

>>77317171
Clarence Kennedy seems to be doing good, but he roids. Weird how flesh eaters have become the new soccer moms.

>>77318642
>You typically need a phone for work
No, you can make do with a landline. If you actually cared about eliminating suffering you'd throw out your phone.
>iPhone is probably going to have better employment conditions
They source from the Congo using child slave labor. This isn't even a secret because of how the world's cobalt supply works lmao
>he probably has an iPhone AND EATS MEAT
Nigger, you're just a fuckin poser lmfao. Wish you lefty faggots would fuck off back to your subreddit

>>77318642
All mexican dishes are rice + beans + corn

>>77318561
>>77318621
Jesus Christ for the last time "protien" and "la heckin science" is fake and gay. Protien is made up (((trust me bro))) bs to sell you products that are scams and useless.

>>77317171
Sounds unhealthy

>>77318662
>lefty
Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian and so was Ford.

>>77318662
>If you actually cared about eliminating suffering you'd throw out your phone.
Are you retarded? I got my phone second hand to avoid this kind of thing. How tf would I help anyone by throwing it away? That just creates E-waste.
>No, you can make do with a landline.
You can't get fucking emails on landline nigger. Have you ever heard of 2FA? Outlook literally requires you install the MS authentication app on your phone. Maybe it's too much to expect you NEETs to know about jobs that aren't fast food but still you must surely interact with something in your life that requires a phone.
>They source from the Congo using child slave labor
As opposed to other phones which source their cobalt from the gumdrop kingdom using fairy magic.

>>77318664
>corn
There's the problem. Corn is 100% worthless, basically sugar. Also, you forgot
>zero exercise
>mountain of queso

>>77318675
and national SOCIALISM is left or right again? fucking monkey.
>>77318692
>How tf would I help anyone by throwing it away?
You obviously don't care because you're profiting from the exploitation of child labor, faggot.
>muh emails
Not every job needs emails. Looks like you don't give a fuck about suffering, you're just a faggot.
>NEETS
you got a second hand phone POVERTY BOY LMAO

>>77318662
Whataboutism isn't actually an argument against veganism though is it?

>>77318692
I like corn bread.

>>77318700
how about this for an argument:
post physique

>>77318698
Socalism was tagged on to have a broader appeal to public. Nationalism is the foundations of "NS" same with Facist. Why do you jews kick and scream when some random anon decides to not eat flesh?
>Child labor is bad.
Someone call the cops, my kids just cut some grass and stacked some fire wood. I thought social justice warriors were extinct.

>>77318703
I'm omnivore not vegan, also I'm a skellington. So argument for or against veganism there either.

>>77318702
I mean yea it's not gonna kill you, but it's suboptimal macro-wise. The real problems are the high-fat low-exercise lifestyles and masses of processed food that the average Mexican in America is likely eating.

>>77318698
>nooo
>you can't just buy a second hand phone that would basically be e-waste if you didn't
>you've got to quit your job and do all this other shit that would benefit no one because otherwise you'll give me bad vibes
Ok lol. Call me back from your landline once you've done all that shit and I'll follow suit.

>>77318715
Oh yeah I fully agree. Corn bread is on the go out of my way to eat list. Same with banana bread.

>>77318724
>banana bread.
Bananas actually go pretty well with onions protein isolate. I've got a big sack of the stuff and I have it blound up with a few bananas every morning. I bet you could shove it in banana bread to make eating it justifiable.

>>77318361
Your point is that he should play suit and do everything with the cruelest impact?

Like I've been told that I'm not a true vegan since I drive BMW.

>>77318662
Im on the carnivore diet and I still think you're a retarded faggot.

>>77317171
It can be done it just requires extra steps and being extra careful about what you eat. Lots of onions.

is this a moxyte thread?

>>77318957
What’s moxyte

>>77317171
>Take roids
>Claim vegan
>?
>Profit

>>77317171
A bit hard to reach protein macros since vegan protein sources are infamously very volumous, but it's entirely possible.

Some good protein sources are
>Textured onions protein
>Tofu
>Pea isolated protein or onions isolated protein

>>77319301
You forgot the goated protein, tempeh.

Ksi got jacked damn

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>>77318246
Micronutrients are abundant in a diverse whole-food diet, but you can add a vegan multivitamin or other supplements if your bloodwork points to any deficiencies.

>>77318314
Thank you, brother.

>>77318361
>what about your phone or other sources of cruelty?

Whataboutism is a distraction, not an argument. It presupposes that the impossibility of perfection means we should make no attempt.
It's true that we may be unable to eliminate harm, but that doesn't absolve us of trying to do less harm.
There's no purity test. Even just eating less meat or abstaining from factory farmed meat or other harm minimization practices are welcome, brother.

>>77318561
>"protein quality", supplements mean your diet is wrong
If your diet is diverse and comes from the incredible variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, legumes, and herbs that grow on this planet, you will naturally have readily-digestible, high-quality amino acids and a plethora of other nutrients available for you body to work with.

Seriously, no one has to go vegan. But if you're troubled by the cruelty of what happens in the abattoir, there are ways to contribute less to the suffering of others while still honoring your own health and fitness goals.

>>77318361
>You may have won your argument, but check out this other argument that wasn't part of the conversation until now!
>You lose i win :)

>>77319433
>Seriously, no one has to go vegan. But if you're troubled by the cruelty of what happens in the abattoir, there are ways to contribute less to the suffering of others while still honoring your own health and fitness goals.
God damn you're an insufferable fart sniffer. Get off your god damn high horse, you're exactly why everyone hates vegans.

>>77318459
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