2 and 3 don't apply if you just flash it

>>108607558
Idgaf cheap TV pls ty

>>108607558
Ok, but have you considered
1) big TV
2) cheap
3) not connecting it to the Internet

>>108607596
Tv quality is shit
You can game on a TV but good luck trying to use desktop computing on it, it'll drive you crazy unless you have low standards for text quality and so on

>>108607602
>You can game on a TV but good luck trying to use desktop computing on it
Who said anything about using it as a monitor?

>>108607602
>good luck trying to use your TV for things TVs aren't made for

>>108607596
>3) not connecting it to the Internet
Can you even set these things up without an internet connection? I have an old "dumb" TV so I wouldn't know.

>>108607609
>>108607613
I thought that was the whole point of the thread, why they are so cheap. I assume that we are comparing them with monitors of the same size.

>>108607558
My dad's TV from 2009 was still working a couple years ago when he replaced it but the new one broke already.

>>108607615
If you can't, you just return it because it isn't functional.

>>108607620
This guy browses /g/ on $5k living room TV sized gaming monitor. No wonder he can't fucking read anything, it's all in Chinese lmao

>>108607622
My family are retarded and leave TVs on for background noise. My 20 inch CRT from around 05 that was on 12 plus hours a day in a room nobody was ever in still works as does the 42 inch LCD from 2011 my dad left on for 5 plus hours per day. They both still work like new. Shit isn't supposed to just break for no reason just from being powered on.

>>108607558
>keep TV offline
>use connected computer/stick for goy apps and shit
Its just that easy, anyone who has their TV connected to anything that lets it phone home is a retard

>tfw still using TV from 2006
>32" 1080p crappy LCD panel
>died once but revived by replacing a diode
>now just won't die
>want a bigger TV with better panel
>a priori knowledge any new TV I buy will die within 5 years max and is filled to the brim with spyware, ads and assorted bloat
>keep using crappy old reliable TV

>>108607615
Last time I turned on a new Roku TV they actually make it difficult to use it with Internet, making you set up an account before you can progress the setup after connecting to WIFI
If you choose not to connect you go right through.

>>108607609
>>108607620
Whoever said TVs can't be used for monitors is a boomer.
Perfectly fine 60hz panels with the expected input latency of a 60hz panel.
Used to be TVs couldn't do 4:4:4 RGB or have input lag in the 100ms+ range. Not really the case anymore.

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>>108607558
>Don't idiots understand
no

>>108607584
Right? This is a problem for normies, not enlightened /g/entlemen. And if you know you cant flash it because you done your research before purchase, then you just get a different model.

>>108607558
4K TVs didn't exist in 2004, is Kent stupid?

>>108607558
/x/ is that-a-way ->

>>108607558
>If a product is ~free~ (cheap) then you're the product.
Products from Samsung and Apple are very expensive and they datamine the shit out of you all the same, maybe even more.

>>108607558
>buy best of the best TV from LG or Samsung
>still sells ads and datamines, and sells your info
The average TV/streaming watcher just needs a large TV. They don't care about quality because they won't notice the difference anyway. It still amazes me when people will drop thousands on a top-tier TV, but refuse to spend the money on a calibration device they can reuse.

>>108607558
>buy screen
>connect computer
>set to source
>never connect to internet directly
>never start initial setup
grats you now have a 65" computer monitor with a built in OS that you never engaged nor will engage in
>but I want it to function like a tv
skill issue

>>108607765
this a 1000 times over
the best my 7 year old 75 inch desktop monitor can do to me is remind me to finish initial setup which it does for 10 seconds every 1st of the month

>>108607615
>Set it up
>Download jellyfin and other apps you need
>Block its internet access in the router
Simple as that. I still won't buy a TV because I'm not a boomer and I don't have usecases for it.

>>108607650
> leave TVs on for background noise.
That’s just so irritating. Like, why the fuck would you leave your TV running, walking f you’re not watching it? Also, you constantly get ads polluting your brain this way.
I always found that so irritating when looking at amateur porn. Ok, I get it, this is the age before monetizing your sex life on only fans or pornhub, so you don’t have proper lighting and such, it’s a spur of the moment thing, but why the fuck is the TV running in the first place?

>>108608930
So you have something to listen to/glance at in the background
or maybe you were watching it before you started, why would you bother to turn it off

>>108607558
>>108608288
Kent, just like the OP, are zoomers. so, guess what.

>>108607558
>3) they're datamining and selling your info.
So

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>>108607558
Just don't connect it to the internet, what's it going to do?

>>108607615
What is there even to setup there? Can't you just plug in HDMI cable and turn it on?

>>108607615
What is there even to setup there? Can't you just plug in HDMI cable and turn it on?

>>108607765
I just have steam link attached and stream my bedroom PC to my living room.

i'll take a $5,000 2004 CRT HDTV over the absolute garbage picture that thing is going to shit out

>>108608307
le spoopy TV with targeted advertising is... Le Spoopy

>>108607558
Can’t data mine me if I never connect it to the internet (which I wouldn’t do even on a “good” brand of tv). Check and mate

>>108607558
278 for a big screen? brb going to walmart or whatever

>>108607558
where can I get these free t-shirts?

>>108609008
>what's it going to do?
Not work, show the preloaded ads if you disconnect, stop working if you don't connect again.
That's what some of them do, idk about this one. I think it just needs first time setup internet connection to download ads and send your info.

>>108607584
those smart tvs are locked down so hard, i don't even see UART pads on the motherboard that are useful, not sure about in the OS wise but i bet you its completely childproof so you cant accidentally brick your tv, only thing i CANT try is reading the eMMC chip as i do not have the correct reader (and none of the modern tvs use them are less than 512MB TSOP48 NAND chips)
that and its android, so its running linux under the hood anyway

>>108609079
>>108607615
>What is there even to setup there? Can't you just plug in HDMI cable and turn it on?
No. You need to connect to the internet and register to watch external inputs like HDMI. Because they want your data and know most people won't bother to un-connect.
They are literally taking screenshots every 30 seconds to analyze what you are watching/playing if you use HDMI, so they can sell that data.

>>108607602
It all comes down to what you consider "cheap", $500 for a 4k 50" is pretty cheap imho
Just a few years ago getting a tv as a secondary monitor was hell, now it's not so bad anymore

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>>108609112
I bought a Hisense TV last year, comes with Vidaa OS or something like that, it works just fine without an internet connection.
If the Chinese are more ethical than American companies then I don't know what to say.

>>108609131
>You need to connect to the internet and register to watch external inputs like HDMI
Sounds like good refund material.

>>108607558
>1) it's a shit panel
Still significantly better than the $5K panel from 2004 that was half the size.
>2) they sell ads
Don't connect it wifi, dumbass
>3) they're datamining and selling your info
See above, dumbass

The IQ of this board is barely above /tv/ or /pol/ nowadays. I'm not responding to any more of your retarded drivel, OP.

>>108609131
What the actual fuck kind of TVs are you buying where you need to register to use HDMI ports?

>>108609131
What the actual fuck kind of TVs are you buying where you need to register to use HDMI ports?

>>108609131
What brands do this? Never once even heard of this until now.

>>108609168
>>108609171
The one in the pic
Samsung and LG will do it soon too if they havent

>>108609131
then dont buy the one that does that you dingo

>>108609202
Those don't cost 278 dollars like the OP image. They're cheap because you have to go through that process.

>>108609214
ok fair I meant more in a general sense of if youre gonna go the route of tv as monitor
my philips doesnt even complain about an unfinished setup

>>108609168
>>108609171
>>108609187
>>108609202
He's lying
Roku TVs actually make it difficult to use it as a smart TV
If you connect to the internet and don't have a roku account, you have to reset from the beginning. In which you can choose not to connect to anything and reach the menu

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>>108607558
>Just like when companies give out free t-shirts with their logo on it. You didn't get a free T-shirt, you became a billboard for free.

Poorfag logic, people with stable incomes pay for the privilege to give a brand publicity.

>>108609171
A newer model

>>108607558
>don't idiots understand hurr durr muh privacy muh feels muh stallman
The TVs still wouldn't cost $5k if they weren't "smart" tvs, dipshit.

>>108607558
>Just like when companies give out free t-shirts with their logo on it. You didn't get a free T-shirt, you became a billboard for free.
This is the only shirts I own btw since I'm a massive poorfag and don't care about fashion.

>>108609146
there's numerous chinese tv's that will refuse to function without logging in
some companies are just shit, doesn't matter the country

>>108609131
Yeah it's crazy that people think they can just watch tv without getting traced and their data sold. I hear they are even using raytracing now to keep track of what you do with your devices

>>108607558
>2) they sell ads, 3) they're datamining and selling your info
I have one those giga-cheap panels in my garage.Paid €299. Some Chinese brand I can't remember, 65". Don't need anything better in there and those two points don't matter because I have never connected a tv to the internet and never will.
Just unboxed it, mounted it on the wall, plugged my HTPC into it and it's been working perfectly for the last three years.
Is the picture any good? It's pretty shit. Oversaturated colors, blacks are weak and it has a lot of ghosting but for displaying Youtube, Twitch and old VHS quality racing videos on? Perfect.

>>108607558
Don’t connect it to the internet, turn off ACR and if needed find the camera and just unplug it after disassembly

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>i'm mad because someone i don't know said something on twitter
I don't get this.

>>108607870
>Whoever said TVs can't be used for monitors is a boomer.
Gen X here.
My 65" LG OLED sucks as a monitor because it has RGBW subpixels.
Font rendering is awful.

Not that I would even want a 65" monitor even if it was perfect.
My 32" monitor covers pretty much my entire field of view.

>>108609118
How does one uses UART in this case? You get an Uart usb and then what? Which software? which settings?

>>108607558
>they're datamining and selling your info
Someone explain to me how my data is worth jack shit at this point when I'm tracked at all times by like 15 different companies

>technology got cheaper over 20 years later
wow
look at how much we'd have to spend to get a PC with top specs for 2004 nowadays.

>>108607558
Ok but consider this:
4K UHD!
65"!
Roku!

>>108607596
>3) not connecting it to the Internet
>>he doesn't know about the hidden 5g chips that phone home to mossad hq

>>108609079
>Can't you just plug in HDMI cable and turn it on?
I have a 55" 4K Element Roku TV that I bought for $100. Nothing about it blocks the HDMI inputs. The Roku OS gives me full control of the display settings. Nothing is crippled in any way. I suspect that people who are talking about smart TVs that block anything unless they're connected to the Internet are either making it up, or outside of the protections of the FTC.

>>108609790
>he thinks I have any kind of connection where I live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere
>he doesn't know that I have to drive 30+ minutes down from the hills and woods to get a single bar on my phone
Kek.

>>108609131
This is made up bullshit.

>>108609202
that's why I stick to monitors :)

>>108607558
>1) it's a shit panel,
because you're a poor cunt
>2) they sell ads,
retard unable to to block ads calls others retards? that's rich
>3) they're datamining and selling your info.
see above
>If a product is ~free~ (cheap) then you're the product. Just like when companies give out free t-shirts with their logo on it. You didn't get a free T-shirt, you became a billboard for free.
no fucking shit sherlock, you must be what, like 20 iq? maybe even 25.kk

>>108609008
some of them come preloaded with a database of anyone who has ever connected to wifi SSID and password and connect to them if they're in range

>>108607558
Normalfags do not know anything. at all. They don't know there are certain qualities of TV or how these TVs are making their money.

>>108607558
>its a shit panel
nah
>they sell ads
just dont connect to wifi? or just use dns adblocker? or use custom media box or use your phone/tablet to stream.

>>108610055
a dns blocker typically won't stop the types of ads served by LG or Samsung because those are coming from the same servers. Just have a streambox and only use the hdmi/component display

>>108609647
FT232 usb dongle and practically any terminal software, most common baud rates are either 9600 or 115200, if its something funky, start low and keep changing it until the output in the terminal window isnt trash garbled up characters
and on some things, it drops you into a root shell (like those old T95X android TV boxes) or is a jail shell that just has basic utilities and prints system debug info

What functionality do people even want when they ask for 'dumb' TVs. Just a big display with input ports and nothing else? Do they want to be able to get linear TV signals from broadcast and cable?

>>108610152
A tv that doesnt have a built in mic recording at all times
that doesnt record or take screenshots of what you are viewing and sending it to a server
that doesnt sit on the owners network not getting security updates and becoming vulnerability to the rest of your devices.
not having snooping and recording wireless devices in its area
not being greeted with ads and inconvenient updates that over time become less functional as the device ages.

>>108610152
>a big display with input ports
that and tv and an internet connection. basically what they are, minus the ads. the issue is that most of the design of smart tvs nowadays centers around ads, even though normies might not notice it

>>108610152
3-4 HDMI ports.
That's all I want. Haven't used cable or any normal tv broadcasting in 15+ years. Always connect a HTPC to it instead. If they made pc monitors of the same size (60+ inches) I would buy that instead.

I was staying at a house with friends that had a broken TV, we thought about going to the movie theature, but instead just went and bought a 50" TV for $100 lol.

_some_ stuff has gotten very cheap in the last few decades.

>>108610227
why 4chan captcha being so weird today

The state of TVs is a travesty, it's literally not possible to find a "dumb" display anymore unless you get insanely lucky. Even if you're willing to pay a premium for it.

The day I pay $500 for a screen and it shows me an ad, it is being decommissioned out the window.

>>108610242
Tel Aviv servers got hit

>>108610152
nobody wants a future where the TV watches them, this was the thing of nightmares just 80 years ago. It's now commonplace to assume every device is spying on them, and the television is ripe for data harvesting because it's what most boomers spend their time in front of.

It also adds shittons of bloat. Most people would be more than fine with a regular TV with no smart features because they use external stream devices to begin with. The smart devices are only there to sell subscriptions, cost them nothing, and make the TV Worse overall for the user.

>>108610141
Thx. I fighting against an old HVAC remote as it doesn't link to the main machine anymore. Putty is what I'm using, but the thing really doesn't to show its secrets

>>108610260
Oy, shut it down.

>>108607558
Gonna be honest: I fucking HATE Smart TV's. That shit doesn't last 10+ years like older non-Smart TV's and their "smart" apps get depreciated within a goddamn year.

You're better off with a shitty Chromecast than that shit.

>>108610141
Thx. I fighting against an old HVAC remote as it doesn't link to the main machine anymore. Putty is what I'm using, but the thing really won't show its secrets

>>108610305
The really fucked thing is that smart TVs aren't just Orwellian botnet appliances, they're just straight up terrible products. They barely work at all, break on software updates, become insecure pieces of shit when those software updates run out, and are so unpleasant to use that it's more comfy to just sit at your desk and watch your shit on your computer. They're big rectangular humiliation rituals. On occasion I'll listen to normies complain about them. And they STILL just passively put up with it purely out of complacency.
The "I don't own a TV" faggots of the 90s were right.

>>108607558
Do Texans really forget which state they're in so often that they need Walmart to remind them?

>>108609821
>is posting from the bottom of a mountain while in the cool evening air
Dumb

>>108607596
I don't actually watch 'TV'. My TV is just an access point to YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime and some local TV network apps - all of which require an internet connection. So what are you suggesting?

>>108607558
I bought a 4k 55" non-smart TV for $200 in 2017 and I was shocked how good it looked. I loved that TV.

>>108610481
>anon discovers marketing and is dumbstruck because he lives in a fucking shithole flyover state

>>108609609

Lefties need everyone to agree with them to function. Righties don't need anyone to agree with them to function.

>>108607584
>just flash it
Sure bud. Point me to a few modern and price competitive TVs that can be flashed with a privacy respecting OS. I'll wait.

>>108610633
Also if that did become common they’d either get legislation passed or institute some technical shenanigans to make sure you couldn’t, or that it’s a pain in the ass to do.

>>108610694
The thing is. Its so easy to just not connect your TV to the internet and attach an android TV box with LineageOS to it that 1:1 replaces all the TV functionality but doesn't spy on you.

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>having a TV

>>108610481
Most Texans are recent arrivals from New Delhi, so yes.

>>108610503
Not him but connecting it to a PC with internet via HDMI is fine.
It's only problematic to connect the build in "smart" garbage to the internet because their entire business model is selling your data.

>>108610937
>Not him but connecting it to a PC with internet via HDMI is fine.
I've done this for years while the TV is disconnected from the Internet. I assume the majority of people are using all the pre-installed goy apps. We're likely a small minority. Funnily enough, by not connecting and updating my TV's FW, mine can be rooted.

>roku TV
I will never understand how Roku got so big it is so unbelievably shit

>>108611051
>Roku a shit
All of them are a shit.
I don't even use TVs anymore because the "benefits" of television are fake and gay, just like the space flights shown on them.
Fuck this bread and circus gay earth

Ok so tell me which fucking TV to buy!

>>108611081
TV choices are simple
G5 or Bravia 8 Mk II or S95F

Monitor choices are a nightmare

>>108611081
Buy one of those tvs they use for fastfood menus

>>108607558
$5,000 over 22 years is like dropping $1 on the floor for a full-time employed person

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>>108607558
That 2004 1080i plasma TV is probably still going strong, but it probably weighs 500 lbs.
They've been churning those 1080p TVs for over 20 years and those old home theater ones that were like 5k-8k new will be better than the $125 walmart special from 2025.
Is there a good 4K tv out there that isn't full of smart shit that injects ads into whatever you're watching or playing?

>>108611157
>Is there a good
Yes. But it costs more.
Just search for those monitors they use to display menus. Those devices are dumber than shit, which is how I like them. Just like my women, dumber than shit

>>108611157
I pulled a 42" 1080p Sony Bravia out of the electronics recycling sometime around 2014, so it already had some years on it, and it's been my main TV since then through four houses. Beautiful picture and the sound is good because it has enough depth to fit decent speakers. I expect to get several more years out of it. The only thing that would get me to replace it, besides it dying, is finding something significantly nicer in the trash. Even then I'd hang onto it as a backup in case the newer one died.

>>108611153
Most people aren't employed, now. They work gig jobs that pay like shit and have zero pay guarantees

All permanent jobs have moved overseas. We're just rapidly becoming Brazil where crime is the only job that pays.

>>108609545
Name one you lying cunt

>>108610252

https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.html

>>108607602
Even budget TVs are good as monitors in 2026. I have a $200 4k tv in my dining room that looks better than any 200 dollar monitor and does 4k144hz. Text quality is good, though irrelevant because you don't have to sit hunched over a desk 10 inches away from it. Monitors are junk

>>108608722
>>108610785
Do you not watch movies, tv shows, longer yt videos?

>>108607558
I don't think the average normie gives a shit about their info being stolen, is used to ads due to their mushy brain, and doesn't know any alternative.

They want cheap garbage anon. It's all they'll ever want. This is why China will win.

>>108608682
>65" computer monitor
>maximum resolution: 1280x720
t-thanks, always wanted a fucking 65" laptop

>>108610152
>Just a big display with input ports and nothing else?
what else do you fucking need? none of the other "features" make any sense.

old people get a digital TV modem for their big monitor, if you want youtube and netflix just hook a small PC up to it

>>108607558
>data mining
Just don't connect to the internet.

Oh, a TV thread. I'm looking for a new TV:
43" 4K (tried 50" already, it was too big)
Good viewing angles (need to see it well from different parts of the room. IPS?)
Not an OLED - way too expensive + burn-in is still an issue.
I don't really care about dimming zones, mostly watch SDR
Not an edge-lit display
Not chinkshit - one TCL already died on me randomly, and it was supposed to be one of the better ones.
Is LG 43NANO81 2025 the best thing I can get without spending a lot more?

>>108607558
Nah it's cheap because they can manufacturer the mother sheet easily and cheap. The tech is just near it's peak. Same thing happened to CRTs and shit when electronics started easily getting produced and shrunk down. If you're not buying the latest and greatest cost drops off.

>>108607602
You simply need to deactivate all the filters and gimmicks.

>>108607558
My TV was €3500 and I haven't had it connected to Wi-Fi since 2019 (bought a Shield which I have kept on the pre-enshittification 2019 firmware), without regrets. That purchase stung, but at least it's still good.

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>dad sold his 48'' crt in 2004 to buy a 52'' widescreen lcd with awful brightness, washed out colors, and ghosting

>>108610152
Literally just a dumb pipe. You connect something, the tv shows the output, and that's all it does. No extra shit nobody asked for, no spying, and no ads.

>>108612973
Burn-in isn't really an issue unless you leave it on the same channel 24/7 like you would in a bar.
But don't listen to me, go to a store and see for yourself, cheap LCDs don't even come close.

>>108612973
Also, how adequate is WebOS nowadays? Is it fast enough for basic tasks, at least?

>>108607558
>shit panel
Only a handful of companies in the world make tv panels and everyone buys from them, both the cheap and expensive ones. And every store has warranty for dead pixels anyway (which Samsung, Sony and LG get too)

>ads
My chinese oledslop has no ads
My friends and relatives LG and Samsung tv all have ads. It shows ads every time you turn it on and have to manually close them
My only issue with it is not every streaming service is available, but if I bought an android tv it would have those too

>sell your data
Your data is not as valuable as you think, boomer. Half your tax money goes to israel and pedophiles and thats fine, but temu learning you like football so it shows you footballs on the front page is over rhe line
(And other companies sell your data too and they still cost more, so we are back to 0)

>>108613188
>I paid 3500 dollar extra for nothing so I am better than you
Same energy as the “if you work less than 12 hours a day dont talk to me” zoomer

>>108613478
I've seen OLEDs, I know that they look great. Burn-in is a secondary issue, really.
Primary issue is how it can burn a hole through my wallet. I'm not paying for an OLED, that's simply not happening any time soon.

>>108613502
OLED are dirt cheap dog

>>108613527
Define "dirt cheap".
The cheapest OLEDs I've seen are ~2x more than what I'm planning to spend.

>>108613495
If you work less than 14 hours a day congratulations you're smarter than me, I took a construction job with a boss that hates me. The four day weeks are the only upside.

>>108613490
>My chinese oledslop
qled you mean, chinks don't make oleds

>>108607558
>You didn't get a free T-shirt, you became a billboard for free.
I quite literally got a free T-shirt. I had a Mountain Dew t-shirt and some orange juice one too and I loved both. You can cope however you want but I got a T-shirt

>>108613590
he's full of shit, ignore him, there is a reason every single panel on earth isn't OLED when it's so superior and has been around for decades. still relatively expensive for anything decent

>>108607558
>not putting your tv/wifi on an isolated VLAN
>having a tv in the first place
Oh, right, you fags are vidya addicts and fat.

That's not what this thread should be about. Extremely fast obsolescence of tech stuff if a realm problem. I remember hearing about people selling their flats after collapse of soviet union just to by a western tv that turned into a worthless brick in just several years.

>>108612973
>Is LG 43NANO81 2025 the best thing I can get without spending a lot more?
Oh wait, isn't LG QNED also based on IPS or something similar, but with added "quantum dots"? In that case, 43QNED70 2025 may be a little better. Or not.

I've been trying to find a way to get my relatives to stop using their smart tvs and firesticks because of how egregious the spying is. It's annoying to DNS filter them because they all use DoH or DoT now. I can't even find a hardware option that will let them seamlessly access their streamslop that isn't crammed with telemetry.
I heard Apple boxes are the least worst but it would be much better if I could just set up linux htpcs with a good remote UI and access to the services