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Here's their official press release video on this law: https://www.youtube.com/live/21Ao9ExQaAA

Skip to 14:30 if you want to avoid all of their circlejerking bullshit.
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lmao look who it is
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you already know who he represents
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>The medical industry rapes 8 day old infants: silence
>Zoomies getting redpilled on kikes: OMFG think of the children
Typical kikes + the phenotype confirms it.
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>>108608900
reading from a script, while pocketing from the elitists
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Isn't bipartisan cooperation wonderful?
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>>108609289
Republicans are just doing it on porn websites. Huge difference from dems pushing this at the OS/device level like europe. One doesn't want you to watch porn, the other wants to monitor your life. Same with dems trying to ban 3D printer files of gun parts. That said the republican majority supreme court should've struck all this shit down so fuck them
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>>108608900
funny this jew don't want id to vote but want id when people use a computer.
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>>108609313
At this point you're a lost cause. Genuinely delusional post
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>>108608900
>stages press conference in front of a playground
the levels of bullshit...
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total leftoid vaccination, hehehe
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>>108608900
Let's check that Early Life section
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>>108609323
If people post what they are thinking on the Internet with other people being able to read it without the posters having gone through a governmental entitlement check beforehand, that is a danger to our democracy.
Election integrity is on the other hand ensured. Anyone suggesting otherwise is a far-right extremist, that's advocating fascism.
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Which faggot state appointed this authoritarian manlet? I say we just annex them. I will never comply with this. I'd rather spend life in jail getting fiddled by Bubba.
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>>108609624
New Jersey. So nothing of value would be lost.
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>>108609427
The emotional manipulation is real...
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>>108608900
tech illiterate lawmakers make technologicallly unenforceable law
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>>108608900
This bill was introduced by

Rep. Josh Gottheimer, Democrat from New Jersey. And is co-sponsored by Elise M. Stefanik, Republican from New York.


To require operating system providers to verify the age of any user of an operating system, and for other purposes.

"and for other purposes..."


https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info
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>>108609527
>he needs to check
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>>108609313
Yeah Republicans coordinated the takeover of tiktok because of porn and not because of control of the news for gen Z and A.
We (peasants) have very few allies and it's not on the party level.
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>>108608900
Then someone will build on top of the verified layer an anonymized layer. They have to catch up. And so on. Sure, they want to close down the devices, the networks, the servers, even the bodies, and yet will something emerge that they didn't anticipate.
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I think I just threw up in my mouth.

https://gottheimer.house.gov/posts/release-gottheimer-announces-bipartisan-parents-decide-act-to-protect-kids-online
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We've had parental controls at the router level for ages now and these stupid fucks don't want people to know that it exists
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>>108609313
>actually it's ok when my side does it
niggercattle moment
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>>108608939
If your OS doesn't support the api none of the mainsteam applications and websites will work that request it from the OS. So you'll just have an OS that is unusable by normies since no service they want to connect to will work.
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WHERE ARE ALL OF YOU "just muh commiefornia & systemd is fine" RETARDS NOW????
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>>108610067
>bipartisan
That's short for "against the people", right?
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>>108609313
yes palentir advertised and zognalds military parade because they want to protect kids from internet porn.
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>>108610683
>the services: cnn.com, twatter, faceturd, youturd, instashit, tinder, grindr

Oh no...
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>>108610707
The fucking systemd change doesn't matter at all. Completely irrelevant text field. Who gives a shit. THIS though? This shit is straight up diabolical. Real actual identity validation to use your device. Fuck that shit and fuck Josh Gottheimer.
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>>108610747
Until you can't communicate with any normie or use any financial services or can't buy anything online or connect to anything study/work related etc etc. Most people have to subject themselves to this, even when they are tech savvy and 100% against this. Not having an age verified device will make you an outcast and create a non liveable situation for almost every person in western society.
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>>108610826
Theres got to be a way to send fake age verified headers to all of the websites
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>>108609313
the bill is cosponsored by a republican faggot
MIGA
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>>108610833
It will be combined with techniques like strong play integrity (hardware attestation). Which means you won't be able to spoof anything. Not having a verified device and verified identity many parts of the internet will be inaccessible.
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>>108610879
Agreed that is the desired outcome, but even then couldn't I set up a singular device with my authenticated info and then tunnel a shit ton of data from a local, urban mesh network over it by using it as a proxy for the traffic?
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>>108610067
ok, so, when setting up the device you have to prove your age, so sites can see it. and somehow that lets parents decide what kids can see, and not the providers. we don't want to bother parents. what? there's no logic. the bill proposes a solution to provide info to providers so that providers can choose, but he keeps talking about how this lets parents choose. and it seems to say that "just entering a date on setup" isn't good enough. so this is actual id verification?
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>>108610918
No because its your browser and other apps on the device that verify your identity with the OS and service you are connecting to.
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>>108610929
>so this is actual id verification?
Seems to be.
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>>108610985
Seems unlikely that the lockdown will be so extensive that people can't install software that's not state-approved from tpm through tcp/ip. Plus think of all the distributed compute hobbiests could muster to continuously crack state signing keys.
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>>108611102
I'd rather not have to circumvent ANYTHING. Fuck this bill and fuck New Jersey.
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>>108611119
I agree fully. But it's coming, and when it does I plan to do all I can to break it, even if that requires me going back to school to pursue hardware skills so I can try to figure out how to crack the hardware implementations. And of course if that doesn't work I can choose between immigrating and terrorism.
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>>108611102
Strong play integrity and apple's verification system have never been bypassed. If these are combined with age verification (which apple's implementation already has) they are not bypassable. I don't know what they'll do for desktops and other less secure systems but probably they will just have to be account linked.
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>>108611137
If you go to https://gottheimer.house.gov/ there's a section at the bottom conveniently titled "Congressman Gottheimer’s Offices" with addresses, phone numbers and when he'll be there. This is all public information. I am not encouraging anyone to harrass or harm him.

Washington, DC

106 Cannon House Office Building

Washington, DC 20515

(202) 225-4465

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Fair Lawn

21-00 NJ 208 S

Suite 240

Fair Lawn, NJ 07410

(201) 389-1100

Mon–Fri, 9am–5pm

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Newton

93 Spring Street

Suite 408

Newton, NJ 07860

(973) 940-1117

Mon, Wed, & Fri, 9am–5pm

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Fort Lee

309 Main St

2nd Floor

Fort Lee, NJ 07024

(973) 814-4076

Every Tuesday, 9AM - 1PM

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Englewood

2-10 North Van Brunt St.

Englewood, NJ 07631

(973) 814-4076

Every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Wed 12-4pm

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Vernon

21 Church St

Vernon Township, NJ 07462

(973) 814-4076

Every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Tues, 9am–1pm

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Hackensack

65 Central Ave

Hackensack, NJ 07601

(973) 814-4076

Every 2nd/4th Wed, 12pm–4pm

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Ringwood

60 Margaret King Ave

Ringwood, NJ 07456

(973) 814-4076

Every 1st, 3rd, and 5th Thurs, 9:30am–12pm

U.S. Representative Josh Gottheimer lives in Wyckoff, New Jersey, located within his district. He resides there with his wife, Marla, and their two children. As a five-term member of Congress first elected in 2016, he represents New Jersey's 5th Congressional District, which covers parts of North Jersey.
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>>108611102
>continuously crack state signing keys.
You don't know what you are talking about. Please stop.
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>>108611284
I don't think the people proposing this know what a signing key is
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>>108609289
nobody is your friend
you were lied to
if you thought they would help you, they tricked you
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>>108609313
>They just molested, but the others raped me
>Not realizing it's the same guys
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>>108609313
>Huge difference from dems pushing this at the OS/device level like europe.
Nobody, not even European Commission (routinely bribed by muttlandish megacorps) tries to push for this. And the stuff they are trying to push is blocked by the Parliament anyway.
Land of the Free is uniquely self-fucking.
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>>108611300
Ok, but they aren't the ones who will implement it.
The guys at Meta, Apple, Google and Microsoft absolutely do know what that is, and they are SALIVATING at the idea of perpetual 100% device lock-in and digital ID.
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>>108611344
Imagine if this energy were put into something more useful like healthcare for the country with the worst system in the world...
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>>108609313
this
leftists exposed and seething
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>>108611300
Ok, but they aren't the ones who will implement it.
The guys at Meta, Apple, Google and Microsoft absolutely do know what that is, and they are SALIVATING at the idea of perpetual 100% device lock-in and digital ID.
>>108609313
>t. nigger
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>>108611284
>>108611300
I was mostly joking, but that doesn't change the fact that the covid passport app in Europe had its keys leaked immediately. I'm relying on insiders to help.

>>108611210
Lol nobody is doing a terrorism (me included) over the introduction of a bill. It wouldn't be warranted ((ever)). I was mostly shit talking because I have kids and that's all I can do short of killing myself.
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This is very upsetting. How do you cope with this?
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>>108609313
Destroy yourself and rise anew as an actual human being
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>>108611385
lol Nope sorry more important to spy and make money off you. No: general medical healthcare, homelessness help & cleanup, education fund aid etc. Just let us see what you're doing so we can predict you
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There is literally nothing wrong with a kid accidentally coming across a porn site. It's just part of discovering sex
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>>108611617
Self flagellation, until the pain stops. If the pain doesn't stop, you're not doing it hard enough.
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>>108608900
Mandatory subscription to a single identity provider for attestation when? Mandatory out of network fees for if the service you want to use uses a different provider when? The future of competitive identity attestation looks like an incredible market for providers and consumers! So much choice!
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>>108608900
More blessings from Muttland. Nice freedom you've got there cock smokers.
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>>108609313
The states that have passed these laws so far have done so unanimously, both parties. This is not about porn. This is about being able to tie all of your online activity to an ID.
>>108611344
The EU announced plans for the same kind of law yesterday. Coincidence, I'm sure.
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4chan's days are numbered mark my words
Internet anonymity is visibly becoming a thing of the past
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>>108611631
It's a gigantic self-own for parents. Imagine your child becoming a sexual deviant because all of the normie porn video hosts are complying with the ID laws but not the niche fetish sites.
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>>108610929
Oy fucking vey!
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>>108611667
renew your vpn for 5 years now. evil sites that don't do age verification will have to move to the dark web. fill your monero wallet.
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>>108610807
I see you still havent learned your lesson. More abuse needed.
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>>108611631
I've been watching porn since I was in 5th grade and I turned out just fine. Well, the autism was pre-existing. I blame my parents getting me vaccinated for that.

>>108611664
Citation needed for the EU laws. Currently this is a US only issue. Nobody gives a shit about Brazil.
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>>108611667
This place uses CloudFlare if you havent noticed yet. CF will be doing the OS verification token check and most retards here will probably still think they are anonymous.
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>>108609313
This, I support them building out the infrastructure and precedent to require an internet ID and take us 99.999% of the way toward a locked down internet, and I wholeheartedly trust my politicians to not nudge it then extra 0.001% it would take to just enable the ID for everything.
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>>108611667
As long as section 230 exists, 4chan will be fine
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>>108609313
>NO THEY WANT (one bad thing) SURELY THEY WON'T WANT (the next bad thing)
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>>108611667
It'll just go underground, there are multiple chans on i2p. If you don't run a router already, you're simply putting a target on your bac.
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>>108611631
>accidentally
yeah, sure.
The "Hide all sex don't let any minors learn what their dicks and pussies do" shit is way more harmful in the long run to children and this was proven by studies in the 90s. We don't do sex education because we believe muh "PROTECT DA CHILLUNS" when this was mocked even on the fucking simpsons. Even the boomers knew that was bunk.
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for anyone that voted for trump that is crying about this, just remember: you wanted to own the libtards. you voted for this.
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>>108611884
MIGAs are subhuman filth, but let's be honest, this was gonna happen either way.
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>>108611664
>The EU announced plans for the same kind of law yesterday. Coincidence, I'm sure.
Fucking bitch is at it again, this time more sneaky so I missed the news.
>The EU’s age verification app for online platforms is “technically ready” and will soon be rolled out, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Wednesday as a growing number of countries push ahead with plans to curb social media access for younger users.
So, there is no law about OS-level identification, but the Commission is working on an age verification platform that will be used by social media platforms. This is a bit less fucked up that muttlandish development.
Migrating to the EU was a mistake, I should've gone to Singarich or island Chyna instead.

>>108611725
>Currently this is a US only issue.
Yes, but we aren't exactly free from this plague:
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/04/15/brussels-says-eu-age-verification-check-ready-amid-child-safety-push
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>>108611833
>yeah, sure
My buddy when I was like 9 told me there was a really funny flash game called "cross dressing Osama bin laden" and that led me to some unexpected sites
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>>108611884
As long as you have FPTP voting there's no point in pointing fingers at the opposing team, this system just naturally incentivises the convergence into an oligarchical dual uniparty.
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>Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither
They had it right 2 centuries ago but we didn't listen...
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>>108611923
it's funny how often i've been seeing the "i-it's both sides!" comments as of late. while it is true, it's just funny because i never saw it during the biden years.
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>>108611937
Just remember that neo-cons and neo-libs are exactly the same, and they make up the bulk of both parties.
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>>108609313
>Republicans are just doing it on porn websites.
Next you will tell me they are actual conservatives.
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pedos in ruins
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>>108611718
No, I'm just not retarded enough to be distracted by shit that doesn't matter when the real threat is being implemented by congress. Almost fucking nothing uses userdb anyways. Check your Linux, you probably don't have it installed.
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>>108611884
This guy is a democrat, but more than that: This is bipartisan. There isn't a reality where either party is working for you.

>>108611790
Anon I have bad news, this is going through too:

https://patronis.house.gov/media/press-releases/congressman-patronis-files-protect-act-to-repeal-section-230-demands-accountability-for-big-tech-says-time-for-parents-to-fight-back

This has a way likelier chance of passing than the retard from New Jersey trying to get age verification on calculators and shit. I doubt the age verification bill will ever make it to the senate floor. This PROTECT one absolutely will.
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>>108611937
The bill is co-sponsored by a republican
can you find the pro-speech pro-freedom anti-papers-please republican or democrat in politics? You won't find them. Everyone is racing to make a worse police state than what our enemies have.
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>>108611701
Funny enough, this guy is ACTUALLY a jew.
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>>108611894
>https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/04/15/brussels-says-eu-age-verification-check-ready-amid-child-safety-push
At least this isn't in your fucking operating system. You can just opt out of using Zuckbook
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>>108611940
So many punchable looking faces
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>>108611974
Yes, that's exactly what I said. But do you expect the bitch to stop at it?
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>>108611951
>This has a way likelier chance of passing than the retard from New Jersey trying to get age verification on calculators and shit. I doubt the age verification bill will ever make it to the senate floor. This PROTECT one absolutely will.
I don't know, the California one is enacted into law already, so wouldn't surprise me.
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>>108611983
Honestly, 3 months ago, I didn't believe OS-level age verification was POSSIBLE let alone something that would be pushed for globally. I'm still in fucking shock.
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At the end of the day, this is what's going to happen:
>Everything you do online will be tied to a single identifier
>If you get banned from one place, they can just send out a ban wave to everything
>Another pandemic happens
>"Time for your good goy shot."
>"I don't want the good goy shot."
>Banned everywhere.
It's about controlling communication, because obviously they don't have enough control to do the sort of shit that they want to do.
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>>108611638
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You shouldn't have been antisemite nazis
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>>108611953
certified pedo kike
what a fucking surprise
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>>108612018
Stop using this psyop word. Use the actual slur: jew.
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>>108610929
The purpose is recording everyone activity on the internet to charge dissident for thought crimes
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So how does this affect me personally in Mordor?
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>>108612028
more billionaires will move there as america continues to implode
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>>108608900
It's reassuring to me that every single comment on that video is against it and basically telling him to go fuck himself. Maybe we have a chance.
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>>108612028
No idea but I hope it goes well for you NZ bro.
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>>108612028
There's no way Trump will actually sign this into law, but the leaders of your cucked hellhole will
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>>108612037
What makes you say that? Trump has signed some pretty retarded shit into law already. If he's getting bribed by Meta, of course he will.
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>>108612033
every popular thing is supported by at most 1 of the 2 parties to keep us fighting over everything
every unpopular thing is bipartisan so we have no choice but to accept
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>>108612037
>There's no way Trump will actually sign this into law
There's no way you're that naïve. What am I saying, you probably think democracy is the best political system ever devised, never mind the fact that it failed at least twice...
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>>108612046
I hate how true this is. Can we just agree to make pot legal and unfuck healthcare? Also, let's stop bombing the middle east. The sandniggers can kill themselves for all I care, we don't need to get involved.
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>>108612060
>Can we just agree to make pot legal and unfuck healthcare?
Mutually exclusive.
>let's stop bombing the middle east
And why would they listen to (You) about something that involves their interests?
>m-muh democwathy!!1!
And how's that working now, hm?
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>>108611990
*California law
There's a GULF of difference between California making a state law and this guy making a national law.
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>>108611999
Honestly this. Even last year when I was watching Flock cameras go up my reaction was "Well, they're not trying to do this in my house, so I guess it's not the end of the world yet."

Now they're trying to do it in my house. I need my fucking papers to use a machine I bought when I don't even need a driver's license to own a car.
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>>108612000
>Everything you do online will be tied to a single identifier
Gonna stop you there. Everything YOU do might be, but I simply refuse. I will never EVER give my OS my ID.
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>>108611638
See as I've said before
This would be the sane way to do it, government attestation. The government runs a server, a server requests if a token belongs to a real person, the server answers yes or no. That's the end of it.

Instead we're having this retarded system where the government is demanding every social media site to do it themselves and surprise: it fucking sucks. Now they're moving on to operating systems.
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>>108612068
>Mutually exclusive.
careful anon eating a brownie with a plant in it will send you to the ER
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Do you think we'll just make another internet? I think we should, this one is fucked.
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Good morning saaars, I am not american citizen but I redeem ID for future child safety kindly
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>>108612084
You can use I2P right now
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>>108612083
Right, sorry, the taxpayer should totally pay for the medical bills of every college student who fries their brain chemistry on drugs.
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>>108612087
I don't get why this doesn't work. India has a jillion identity leaks every year. Just use their IDs, this isn't legally binding.
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>>108612091
>your brain will fry if you eat a 8 mg thc gummy
wow
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>>108612093
They posted their IDs on public storage accessable through a simple image search lel
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>>108612037
>There's no way Trump will actually sign this into law
It will pass with a unanimous vote across both parties in congress, and he will sign it into law.
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>>108612031
Let's say I'm not a millionaire, how do I US exit to somewhere not a shit hole?
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>>108609313
>One just wants to control your life, the other wants to monitor your life.
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>>108612113
There are no decent places left.
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Albania is most treasured foreign country in America
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>>108612113
do you have a high value job that can be done remotely
or are you closely descended from someone from another country
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>>108612100
I'm not talking about the people who use it once; I'm clearly talking about people like (You).
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>>108612084
Hey man, I just want to get high every once in a while like after work, smoke some pot and forget how shitty life is, you know? Nothing wrong with that. Alcohol is way worse anyway.
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>>108612037
>There's no way Trump will actually sign this into law
Oh dear
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>>108612121
No, sadly I have a shitty office job.
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>>108609313
it's 2026 and you are still this retarded
Both sides want to fuck you gas you and rape you to death
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>>108612128
MIGAs are brain damaged I swear. Or in denial.
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>>108612037
Why would he veto this? No one in his admin cares about anything except culture war bullshit or murdering children for Israel.
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>>108612143
It's just a shower, no big deal
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>>108612147
Fuck Israel.
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Politicians, lobbyists, lawyers, and donors know nothing about technology. They think they'll make a functioning system.
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>>108612184
>Politicians, lobbyists, lawyers, and donors know nothing about technology
They don't need to, they just need to make the people who do follow their laws.
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This Jew is literally funded by Israel. I'm not even making this up. https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/josh-gottheimer/summary?cid=N00036944
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>>108612213
He's not one of the good goys
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>>108612213
>This Jew is literally funded by Israel
.. and who do you think funds israel?
I remember watching a video that claimed that AIPAC "lobbied" american politicians to give money to israel so that AIPAC could "lobby" (bribe) them back
your politicians are collectively scamming you.
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>>108610707
>not just in california but also jersey
It's the same shit. These single party hellholes are going to do everything they can to make sure they stay single party as long as possible. Look at South Carolina and there's the future for all of them.
>systemd is fine
It is. Your government is not Lennart's problem.
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>>108612200
Yes, but if they make laws that destroy computing and technology, they're hurting themselves MORE than they're hurting anyone else. These laws they're putting forward will require them to hand over their own IDs to get access to their phones, TVs, and computers in their offices, as well as their staffers and interns, and everyone working in business, finance, government and contractors, etc, and this also opens up a wide range of attacks that can be used to dox government employees, CEOs, politicians, etc. They don't understand the danger they are putting themselves into with these laws. We know, because we know tech. They have no idea.
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>>108612251
>politicians being bound by their own laws
doh ho ho ho ho
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>>108612231
This is also called a "kickback", the politician gets to pocket campaign money each hand-off. There was a huge row about it in Texas a few years ago when a senior campaign financier was doing it as part of Cruz' campaign, and the conclusion they came to is that they would have to prosecute 99% of congress if they prosecuted him over it.

Literal bribocracy
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>>108612251
These dipshits probably think the two operating systems are iPhone and Galaxy. They shouldn't be writing laws.
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>>108612268
>They shouldn't be writing laws.
Then why did (You) vote for them?
>b-but I didn't---
Don't avoid the question.
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>>108612251
>Yes, but if they make laws that destroy computing and technology,
They're not doing this, they're making laws that will destroy normalfags access to computing and technology.
We will just use Indian IDs or cuck and use our own IDs. We won't fight it. This is the technology board, not the /gbased trad luddite/ board. No one on this board has any principles they seriously hold above shiny objects and electronic gadgets and if anyone tells you otherwise while filling out a captcha that is phoning home a digital fingerprint of you to cloudflare: They're fucking lying.

If you seriously care about your privacy or security: You're not posting on 4chan. If you're not posting on 4chan, you're too niche for this law to ever affect you, you have the knowhow to install i2p and tor, and to roll your own flavor of Linux and sign your own UEFI and TPM keys and never be caught. This is a law for the goyim to live by.
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>>108612260
Are they going to buy special phones and TVs and game consoles and PCs and routers and smart watches for themselves and their family members? The NY state law wants to make ID required even for smart devices like appliances.
These people don't know what an operating system is. They're braindead morons. Elise Stefanik getting ID'd by the TVs in her house(they have operating systems and connect to the internet) hasn't even crossed he pea-sized brain.

If you wanna see how retarded lawyers/politicians/lobbyists are, take a look here-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyramine#Legal_status
Every food listed here-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyramine#Occurrence
is technically, by law, a schedule-1 controlled substance in Florida, because Pam Bondi is the dumbest cunt that has ever walked the earth.

These are scary people, not in their maliciousness but in their stupidity.
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>>108612275
this isn't reddit we're not going to pretend that the US isn't a de facto aristocracy
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>>108612304
>we're not going to pretend that the US isn't a de facto aristocracy
Wow, what a great thing democracy has been! It took two failures for it to implement Correctly™, but hey, that's what "third time's the charm" means!
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Surely there's a way to call their bluff, build something open that's 100% anonymous by design. Zero knowledge proofs and all that.

Big corpos getting too comfortable lately cause it' been too long since open source properly kicked their asses. Real hackers build better than coproate drones every time, and if we do it first and do it better how're they gonna say we can't do it our way?
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>>108608900
Someone under the video made a good point: This is a direct violation of COPPA
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/6502
>(A)require the operator of any website or online service directed to children that collects personal information from children or the operator of a website or online service that has actual knowledge that it is collecting personal information from a child—
>(ii)to obtain verifiable parental consent for the collection, use, or disclosure of personal information from children;
effectively, how do you gatekeep children from using _any computer_? Are you going to force them to drag their parents around scanning their IDs instead until they're 18? Or will we raise a society of Neolithic cavemen who are banned from using a computer until they're 17.9999 years old and still expect to have a functional society of adults who are raised on nothing but reading the bible and getting raped by their preacher?

tl;dr It won't pass and if it does it'll be struck down by the supreme court and if that doesn't happen then COPPA is effectively dead. It's "Pick your poison" on ruining kids lives in the name of protecting kids. Picture trying to raise a functional workforce when they're banned from using the tool every workforce requires to use in order to survive. Worse education than Zimbabwe.
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>>108612312
It's called I2P. You don't use it already, so why would you start?
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>>108612025
No the purpose is tracking identity for better data collection for ads.
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>>108612312
it's not about whether the tech exists, it's about whether any normie niggercattle will flock to it
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>>108612060
Drug abuse causes >100% of health problems. The drug positive policy pushed by Democrats is responsible for the majority of the increase in cost of healthcare.
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>>108612345
more than 100%? my god!
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>>108612082
The same reason your social security card says it is not to be used for identification purposes.
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>>108612325
>This is a direct violation of COPPA
Congress forgot it passed COPPA in less than 15 minutes after they passed it. They likely don't even know that law exists.
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Entire essays were written about why seatbelts shouldn't be mandatory in cars. Who won then?
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>>108612303
You are an addict. Seek help.
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>>108612374
Worse. I'm a chemist.
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>>108612385
You're a criminal!
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>>108612329
They'll ban that too if they keep getting away with this. Short sighted brainlet.
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>>108612336
You don't want the normie nigglecattle to flock to alternative tech. Every time they do, they bring the kiked corporations and government eyes along

Everyone is gonna have to learn how to blend into the pozzed and surveilled clearweb, and then take the free speech over to a sandboxed instance that only connects to I2P or Tor.
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>>108612412
Chyna has only been able to disrupt I2P so far. I doubt a bunch of doomsday ziocucks and diversity hires will be able to fully shut I2P down anytime soon
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>>108612447
>only do illicit shit on the darkweb
>the only thing to talk about on the darkweb is how to bypass age verification and/or how to bring down the government
>nobody cares so nobody comes
>your movement is dead in the water
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And the world wonders why we hate our government.
>just vote for better people
Every damn one of them gets corrupted by the end of their first term. I can count on one hand the number of people in Congress that are actually good and they have to fight their own parties tooth and nail to not get primaried.
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>>108612483
>but I need my normalfag friends to join me!
You are the reason why the first internet turned to shit. Do us a favor and stay away from the second one
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>>108612470
Hardware attestation is the end game. They don't even need a great firewall if your computer blocks 'illegal' software by default and you need a license to write code.

Every crypto will be backdoored and there will be no alternatives.

You think they don't know that we can sign ourn own keys and compile our own kernels? They're counting on it cause that's the excuse for locking down even harder.
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>>108612517
lol enjoy talking about fucking with your tor daemon config files in your secret club while the real world gets worse forever
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>>108612521
>You think they don't know that we can sign ourn own keys and compile our own kernels?
No. The people making these law and lobbying for these laws don't know what a kernel is, or keys, or source code, or anything.
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>>108612508
>And the world wonders why we hate our government.
No, they wonder why we haven't done anything about it, and the answer is that democracy makes politics part of the circus, which placates the fickle and naïve masses because the majority cannot be trusted with the will of the Government, even via the proxy of "muh representation."
>Every damn one of them gets corrupted by the end of their first term
Translation: they play into the Elite's interests to support their own career.
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>>108612522
Thanks. I will enjoy being able to say nigger while your sorry ass takes in zog propaganda on tiktok
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>>108611210
rather than straight up an heroing you should organize a mass protest of locals to follow him at all times to make the point. do that for a few weeks and he might reconsider. going allahu akbar and failing will just embolden him.
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>>108610929
lol what? i'm pretty sure you can already configure parental controls on iPhones that are password protected, not just asking if you're an adult. if they wanted to set up some standard where browsers and websites and phone apps all had to check that value and comply with it, sure, whatever, i'd be fine with that. but how does adding an id check/face scan on device setup address this problem at all?

i guess if you're a parent who doesn't know/care about parental controls and just hands the phone straight out of the box to their 11 year old, then yeah, those safeties do nothing. but those parents who don't give a shit are just gonna use their id to set up the phone anyway and then unlock it for the kids. this doesn't suddenly make those parents give a shit about their kids. and it's not like the main way kids get phones is through some black market lunch money trade, their parents buy it for them

i just don't understand how anyone can spend more than two seconds thinking about this shit and not think it is completely retarded. you don't even have to be a privacy schizo to realize this does nothing to accomplish the supposed objective
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>>108612543
Have yourself a PC without internet access for your games/media/porn, and another one for downloading new stuff from the internet using a fake ID. Doesn't anyone on /g/ have fake IDs? Don't answer that. The point being, getting fake/stolen IDs is really not hard. Having a fake ID might be illegal, but as long as you're not using it for nefarious reasons they're a great thing to have as a form of plausible deniability, which is why intelligence agents have them.
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>>108611335
being left the fuck alone is what we all want but if those are your only options I'd take fondling over assrape aids injection any day of the week
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>>108612580
Using a fake ID and leaving your identity unused is just going to draw more attention to yourself. It's not hard to separate being a normal citizen with your identity, while also being based and redpilled on a protocol that allows for anonymous identities
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>>108611625
>general medical healthcare, homelessness help & cleanup, education fund aid
if they solved those problems they wouldn't have any reason to funnel that money into the nonprofit patronage machine
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>>108612590
>It's not hard to separate being a normal citizen with your identity, while also being based and redpilled on a protocol that allows for anonymous identities
Shut up cuck. I will not play their game and legitimize their terrorism by verifying my real ID EVER. If that draws attention to myself, I literally do not give a fuck. You're just as bad as the snakes pushing for this if your plan is to comply in any way, even just on the surface.
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>>108612534
Clearly you haven't spent any time around these types. No they don't really understand these things, yes they're all midwits.

Doesn't matter. Cause they are highly motivated to crush us plebs and they have all the power and money to buy the technical expertise they need.

They don't understand the details themselves but they know that we have ways around this. Their consultants told them so.

They're obsessed with power games, it's how they got to where they are. This is all part of their play book. Position yourself for a big power grab while maintaining the appearance of making a small move. Justify with an appeal to safety. When dissidents resist, use your influence over critical institutions to crush them, and use it as an excuse to ratchet up the control further.

They think, that eventually they will have control over all money and all human interactions and then they win because they will get to be the fatest parasites who get a cut of all human productivity just by existing. They don't realise that everything will come crashing down before that ever happens, but that's what it means to have a mediocre IQ.
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>>108610826
>Not having an age verified device will make you an outcast and create a non liveable situation for almost every person in western society.
if its only you - then sure. if its like the majority of people - this would be a bigger problem for those services than you.
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>EU
Makes ZKP app countries have to use, making the privacy issues moot
>NA
Give corpos your id and selfie please!
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>>108611344
EU already passed the digital ID act and now requires all social media to verify with government digital ID to view posts and to write post. This has already happened. EU has tried multiple times to pass Chat Control to deny all encryption, have warantless spying on all communication systems at all times, it has only failed due to 1 or 2 member states. This is due to EU law requiring all member states to vote for it. Now EU has changed that law so they only need a majority vote and not a unanamous vote. They have already passed DSA law that has forced mass censorship and fines social media sites for not censoring speech. Britain last year has jailed 10,000+ people for social media posts. Mainly people complaining about mass migration issues and for people not using gender ideology pronouns.
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>>108612652
>the majority of people
You're naïve to the point of retardation if you think the same majority that followed the mass-compliance test of 2020-21 would protest this, or anything of importance ever again.
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>>108612628
All they're doing is making things worse for themselves. They're throwing monkey wrenches into their own systems without understanding it because they aren't intelligent in systems or infrastructure.
And in doing this, they're opening themselves up to scams and danger in their own lives. All it's going to take is the wrong retard getting their information stolen or have their money stolen for heads to roll. And it will happen. Every weak link in the chain.
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>>108612663
You truly are retarded
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>>108612652
Majority of people follow the will of the WEF controlled media. Majority of people do not make right. Laws are protected by constitution and to change that, you need a super majority.

But really, with extreme media propaganda and extreme control of narrative, you can get supermajority, like EU or Canada. And then you're fucked.
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>>108612675
Politicians will be exempt from this obviously.
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why don't they ever do good shit?
it's never good shit. every time i see some shit that (((politicians))) are doing, it sucks. you'd figure a broken clock would be right twice a day but i can't remember the last thing that made me go "yeah that's great i'm glad they're doing that!"
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>>108612664
well if they really are going to go with it, do you really want to share an internet with them? it may long term be just a facebook vs normal internet type of separation - let them stay in facebook and the other faggot websites.
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What a time to be alive, being old enough to live and experience the golden age of internet, and to see that turn into mass surveillance like dystopian moves always portrayed.

Remember guys, this is all for the children, think of the children as much as you guys can.
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>>108612687
because they like money
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>>108612687
>why don't they ever do good shit?
They do, for themselves and their interests. What, did you think the Vote™ made them magically beholden to the fickle, disorganized will of the populace?
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>>108610929
>We expect Children to self-police
I thought we expected Parents to police their Children?
In fact, most of this seems to be giving the exact same tools parents already have to parents that still don't give a shit.
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>>108612685
No they won't. They won't have special OSes on their PCs and phones, they won't have special flat screen TVs, they won't have some magical technology you don't have.
They will use Android/iOS/Windows etc like they do now. They don't understand technology. The thought that they'll have to give up an ID for their children to have a Switch/PS5/iPhone hasn't actually crossed their minds. They don't understand what this actually means because they've never had to do this before. The most they've ever had to do was put in government credentials to access certain computers for classified information, usually someone else with security does this for them. They might have put their shitty password in to access their account on a shared home PC.

How do you supply an ID to use a computer? Who checks the ID? You would have to use a physical ID for this because a picture can be edited. So do you take your PC down to the police station to have law enforcement confirm the ID belongs to you and they sign off on it? It's completely stupid and shows that the people behind these things are retarded, and this is also why the governments around the world can't do anything right. Governments are made up of lawyers, businessmen, lobbyists, and other halfwits.
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>>108609313
Kill yourself goy
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>>108612808
Tranny
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>>108612798
I'm sure the Satanic cannibal pedophiles who pretend to represent us will have no trouble procuring other peoples' IDs for themselves.
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>>108612798
They're already masters at faking earnings and identity. They will have no issues in keeping doing that.
Here in my country is so common for them to do that, they even have a special term for it "Laranja", which means someone whose information is being used by someone else to bypass stuff and restrictions politicians usually have.
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>>108612819
That won't work, because you can't just type an ID into the OS to confirm it. The law would need a way to verify a physical ID to unlock the OS. And there are tens of thousands of politicians, C-suites, and other powerful people. It's an unworkable system, like everything else these retards try to push on society. They say that the greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing people he doesn't exist(it's a she actually, but don't spoil the surprise). The biggest trick that politicians and business leaders and lawyers pull is convincing people they're intelligent.
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/text
>Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Commission shall promulgate, under section 553 of title 5, United States Code, regulations to carry out this section, including regulations relating to the following:
>(A) How an operating system provider can—
>(i) verify the date of birth of a parent or legal guardian

This one IS in fact an ID verification surveillance bullshit one btw, not just the annoyance of manually entering an age.
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On the other hand Idaho banned ID verification state-wide and some others seem to be going for that, with many cybersecurity, safety and others also raising alarm, and a strong lawsuit against Texas laws

Japan said no, but i think you need to register a name on your phone there, maybe, but they do have sims for kids and they are launch a parental controls awareness campaign, also their ISPs are still controlled by ancient internet nerds that refused to block/ban TOR and the like
and SEA in general is rejecting this, cant believe im being tempted to move to a SEA country
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>>108612863
I'm confused because they also just passed this which requires "verifiable parental consent" to use social media
https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/billbookmark/?yr=2026&bn=H0542
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>>108612839
How will this work when the law makes it clear you need a verified ID to access an OS? TVs have OSes. Who's going to sell them the special TV with the special hidden free OS? How many of these TVs are there? There's not even a way to implement this
The only way I can think of to pull this off is having a US government website like the Social Security site, where you input your SS# and all kinds of other details to set up an activation account, and then with your devices you have to log into that account and get an activation key for the device, registering you as an adult or child on that device. Thgat website will be the only one the device can access until authentication is complete.

That's the only way to make this work. It can't be third party. It has to be official. The unlocked device can then be used. Even this is pretty shitty.
The real problem is humanity created the internet and the internet cannot be effectively controlled. By its very nature it's impossible to control. Anything digital can be spoofed, hacked, worked around, obviated, etc.
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>>108612883
Apparently, they are pushing for parental controls from what I understand be enabled, might be able to push a very benign Japan-like system
which basically parents need to submit a form so their 13+ kid can get its parental controls embed on the phone's SIM lifted to some extent and can access more adult content of they get their parents/guardian approval, mostly for education (pff) but it works, I assume here it would be at least 16+
dunno, I hope you guys can evade this amerbros
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>>108612886
>It can't be third party
It will be a Israel adjacent company and you will be happy
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>>108612901
The only system that would be "benign" to me would be one that doesn't require any sort of verification and is basically just a header that sites must include if they have porn, and parents could optionally enable a filter in their OS (for certain users or whatever) to block these sites. Blacklist parental controls for kids have existed for a long time and this would just be an extension of that which requires by law that no site can evade the filter, without any privacy or convenience issues at all.
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>>108612910
I'll have an offline computer. I've got many lifetimes of media and porn saved and don't need the internet. It's not my problem. But it is a problem for people that aren't like me who haven't been saving content for 25 years and backing it up on HDDs. I don't even own a smartphone and I never have.
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>>108612922
yeah, we need parental controls enabled by default at least, they are hidden on purpose, I can only recall Nintendo making tons of videos about them for parents in the recent years
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>>108612675
>All they're doing is making things worse for themselves.
Not immediately they aren’t.
Congresscritters got a free pass at TSA for the longest time and it was only recently there was a house rep from texas brave enough to put forth a bill that congress should actually have to go through the humiliation ritual they wrote into law.

There will probably be a special system in place to let them bypass this. Like an exclusive VPN (hosted in Israel of course) to get around the ID check.

The other anon is right though that as society grinds to a halt under the weight of this bullshit these assholes will find their quality of life going down in the long term. Slowly, then all at once.
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>>108612941
How is an OS going to access a VPN without an ID verification to unlock the device?
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>>108611961
Well duh. I checked because it seemed like something a Jew would do. Pattern recognition is pretty effective.
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>>108608900
I hate /g/. ever since 2016 when you lost me with the Autohotkey vs Linux debate you have not managed to convince me of any tech trends or really anything tech. sure there are 100 apple threads by bots on the catalog but i am talking about the other humans left - i am starting to hate you.

every age verification thread is the same - i come and ask and propose solutions to the problem - using stolen id cards, using less faggot websites, hosting outside the west, using tor.... and all you come back with is fud about how "noooooooo its over". as a result i stop reading age verification threads as they are only here to make you scared into compliance. even when i come and read some shit thread the replies are all about how i should be afraid and it is over. well, ok, i am not reading or participating in those threads - it is not over, but you are bots that just spam how over it is so that solutions are impossible to propose.

10 years ago you lost me and you lost me back then because you could not understand the tech requirements. today you are losing me because you cannot understand that the laws is unenforceable without major holes that make the law more of an annoyance.
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>>108612812
Kill yourself yid
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>>108612947
vpn enabled in the router
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>>108612971
But you need an ID to unlock the OS according to what seems here- >>108612861
When you get a phone or PC, you somehow have to give up your ID to the device, which itself is impossible without one of those scanners that stores use to scan your ID to buy alcohol.
It's a stupid plan through and through. The OS won't allow you to operate anything unless you confirm your ID to it. How would anyone even do that?
These retards don't even know how impossible this is.
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>>108612980
yeah, not even China or South Korea have managed to completely tie your ID, unless they plan to push Amazon to kill Hardware and now you can only stream PCs and rent them remotely
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my name is kazuma and i am from polska.
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>>108612980
btw Japan rejected this simply because it would be just making everything to use harder for no reason, when everyone needs some sort of use of a pc or phone in everyday life, and it basically kills software development without government mandating some code that would leak by obvious reasons,its fucking stupid
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>>108612993
I think a better option would be to force cellular carriers to offer phones made for under-13s, 13-18s, and adults, and using LLM tech to block content on the device level on phones for minors.
For computers, just require OS makers to do the same, and allow parents to set up child and teen friendly desktop environments that use LLMs to censor at the device level for children and teens.
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>>108613019
Uh-huh, and how long before or after this new system is implemented until some interest group calls it Tyrannical™?
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>>108613027
Just ignore them.
It's the best option, easy to implement, and preserves security. If the device itself is censoring kids, there's no risk of the kids having their data stolen. A child's phone won't have a functional camera, for example, or allow text messaging. Teen phones won't allow sexual images to be taken/transmitted, and will censor certain words being spoken into the mic or typed in text messages. Same applies to child/teen desktop environments. The devices can read text in real time as they access content on the net and censor it before display or sounded on the screen/speakers.
Even if an adult tries to groom the kids, the texts/video/etc are pre-censored and the device disconnects from whatever app/program is being used by the minor in question making it impossible to do.
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>>108609313
>us vs them
NIGGA THEY BOTH FUCKING HATE YOU
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>>108612577
I'm pretty sure parental controls are part of the setup process for a lot of modern devices at this point, it's hard not to know about them.

Our biggest enemy is parents just being well, lazy.
A lot of parents just hand their kids a device and let them set it up themselves, so obviously they skip the parental stuff.
And a lot of people are just well... a little scared of technology and want everything to just werk, adding another level of messing around puts people off stupid as it sounds to us.
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>>108613019
Japan does this, basically has phone SIMS for kids, and have the parental controls embed on them from what I know
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Well, we know this is basically being funded by Meta and other big tech companies, especially those in the social media industry.
It's possibly a response to the UK's online safety act well.... failing. It's neither preventing the harmful content or preventing kids from seeing it.
Because guess what, all that harmful content is on social media and not porn sites, kids are more likely to see tits on TikTok or YouTube than pornhub. who'd have thought.

So this is for the corporations to go "how is it our fault that little Timmy saw bad stuff, his device said it's an adult using it, it's all YOUR fault" because you just know parents will verify themselves on their kids devices because the kids will complain they are locked out of shit.
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>>108613148
In the UK they block adult and a lot of other content by default on every sim (unless you get yours from a shady phone company I guess) unless you verify the sim with a credit card.
Which is another reason why the Online Safety Act is retarded.
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>>108613151
the government wants to censor social media websites and fine them
social media websites propose a solution that dont cause them fines
the government gets censorship they want

the blame isnt on social media, the blame is on government, they demand mass political censorship this is an excuse.

we saw the mass censorship play out with the Biden admin, the covid censorship, the war with ukraine censorship, the election censorship, the mass migration censorship, the transgender ideology censorship, WEF elites censorship, the WEF advertisers collusion with US gov censorship, etc.

The answer is always to remove the government.
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>>108613170
>The answer is always to remove the government.
And do a totally new thing, where we're in charge, which in no way resembles a Government, because we put Le Heckin' Freedom™ in the letter of our foundational Law. Just like the Colonists, who were totally sincere and non-subversive in their goals and whose project absolutely worked perfectly, and took far longer than the second-ever President to sign laws against sedition...
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>>108613170
While censorship is indeed an issue in some cases, posts like this come off as a kook and don't really help the valid issues of privacy and such.

Honestly it's almost feels like people who scream about conspiracy theories are just there to derail legitimate concerns.
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>>108613214
Censoring Americans never works anyway. It might work for a little while but eventually people get so pissed off they revolt and start causing problems, and whatever was censored becomes mainstream conversation. This is commonly known as the Streisand Effect, and it's well-documented now.
This is the reason there's so many conspiracy theorists here to begin with. Anything that someone tries to hide here naturally creates suspicion among a lot of people. People in the US, for all of our faults, have a good bullshit detection system.
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>>108613253
and yet, you never had this kind of tech around before that will lead to control, that's what scary
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>>108611824
Honestly, I wish for this. Making the site difficult to access for the tech illiterate while increasing anonymity would be a blessing (sans the bot issue)
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>>108613272
There's always a way around the tech, especially when you've got a bunch of H1b trads coding the shit up. If Microsoft and Youtube are anything to go by, I'd say you're in for a fun time if they try to use such a complex system to control people. Faggots can't even make working operating systems and web browsers anymore. That's another key fact the people writing these bills up don't have a clue about. They have no idea how ineffective and retarded this little plan of their is. They wanna go harder than China without Chinese intelligence to do it.
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>>108611824
I've been meaning to try I2p for a good while now, i might test it soon, also wanted to see how I2P would work to archive animu/mango/doujins/vidya in a more underwater way
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>>108613253
>eventually people get so pissed off they revolt and start causing problems
Examples pending.
>People in the US, for all of our faults, have a good bullshit detection system
Not the 75% who complied.
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>>108612687
>why don't they ever do good shit?

because they not their job
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>>108611990
same as banning guns, also that retard is hated already
Same with the Texas law, will be repeled im almost sure
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>>108613214
>its all a conspiracy
You will NEVER BE A WOMAN.
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>>108611210
Anon, what you really need to do and what all anons need to do is call their states representative and inform them that if they do not kill this bill you will vote for their opponent no matter their platform. What these people fear most is losing their power. This is really the only legal way to force them to stop this shit. Further let everyone you know to do the same and tell them the truth how this is nothing to do with kids and is about tracking everyone. Tell the men they'll have to provide a government ID just to look at porn. The women they would have to provide an ID just to doomscroll on their phone.
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>>108612037
Trump has no idea what is going on. People just come up to him and say "Remember when we talked about this? Well I got the bill ready for you to sign as you asked." Trump will just sign it because he's still there enough to have an ego to not want to have "forgotten" some conversation.
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>>108611932
that's not what it means in context btw
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>>108608900
A new SOPA every week it feels like. It gets so tiring.
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>>108608900
I haven't seen a single person in support of this aside from the politicians themselves. I get that the whole "government of the people, by the people, for the people" concept is wishful thinking at this point, but no matter how retarded new bills are I will always see the occasional comments and posts of retards praising them. This OS age verification law (both California's and this one) is the first time I have not seen any public support AT ALL.
Where is this shit coming from? How is it getting passed?
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>>108613518
Well we can't have people discussing photosynthesis with the upcoming climate lockdowns. Just see what happened during covid.
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>>108613518
>Where is this shit coming from? How is it getting passed?
Mark Zuckerberg because he's sick of paying fines.
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>>108613539
And as for how? Politicians are retarded and know little o nothing about technology. The see "for the children" and clap like seals. If you're against then you'll be branded a pedophile.
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>>108613551
*to
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>>108613518
>I get that the whole "government of the people, by the people, for the people" concept is wishful thinking at this point
>at this point
It was a subversive lie when it was first incepted, and it's only been revealed more and more so with time.
>Where is this shit coming from? How is it getting passed?
Why would any Government listen to the masses for their interests?
>buhhh, muh representation!!1!
And how's that doing now?
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>>108613518
>Where is this shit coming from? How is it getting passed?
It's Meta.
https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
Meta has pushed the biggest lobbying campaign of the last 5 years specifically aimed at age verification so they know who is or isn't a minor so they can ban them from their site and not face COPPA violations.

So far, 75 million in 'official' lobbying money, and 200 million in 'unofficial' (through PACs, shells, middlemen and the like) lobbying money. This is the largest happening in politics since Covid but nobody is talking about it because they are aware that Meta will shit out any money needed to avoid having to be hit with COPPA violations.
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>>108613561
My favorite was the Whiskey rebellion, "Everyone we just got freed from the British for massive, unrepresentative taxes." "Awesome I can make my moonshine tax-free" "NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT"
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>>108613702
They will spend $80 billion on a shitty boring video game but won't ask the idiots using their services to provide their id.
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you can tell they don't give a shit about children's safety because they aren't making it illegal to give a child a smartphone
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>>108613518
My guess: It's women. Women are the ones asking for this because "THINK OF THE CHILDRENS" is a 100% magic bullet to make any woman do whatever you want for all eternity.
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>>108613802
>Stop voting. Think of the children.
Come back to me and tell me if it works.
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>>108608900
don't you guys have guns?
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>>108613826
Yes, and wouldn't you know it, the liberals who have them are just as comfortable with being controlled by ghouls as the liberals who don't, as long as they wear the right hat.
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The government wants to protect your children.
These guys just want to know how old those kids are.
Please register your age with them.
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>>108612695
We really didn't know how good we had it 15-20 years ago, I'm zillennia (1996) so I didn't get the chance even live fully the golden age, I just lived the tail (2007-2014) which some people might say was already the beginning of the end, got a small taste of it and then everything started turning into shit.
My only hope for the future of the net is that this ends up splitting the internet in two, the first part for normalfags (completely controlled and neutered), a second part that is as wild and genuine as it used to be in the 2000's, with the same technical entry barrier (if not a bigger one), basically a nerd/hacker underground where we can be racist, post lolis and were using an independent operating system and software stack is basically a requirement, finally no more normalfags ruining our spaces.
I don't think 4chan will survive this transition (probably a good thing considering the state of this board), but maybe new anonymous imageboard will rise from the ashes on the underground.
We can't stop this, but we can resiste by building our alternative net.
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>>108613995
Brave browser has Tor tabs, you don't even need to be a hackerman to do this. onion domains are free, no registrar to pay. We will see the rennisance on the Tor network, and then they will try to block that too.
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https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui
this is the EU's solution for age verification
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>>108614084
ok where is the desktop version
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>>108608900
Here, the META lobbying thing.
>>108609289
Always tells you which interests have strong representation in both parties.
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>>108612037
A way to stop fake news (critique) of him from reaching future generations?
Hed love it he wishes he was a king and has openly said he could do a lot more if he was
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>>108613170
social media was a mistake, back in my day we said 'the interest is serious business' as a meme but that shit is reality now and it fucking sucks
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>>108609289
There's a stupid party and an evil party, and when they do something stupid and evil, it's called bipartisanship. But remember, Monarchy was always totally worse, somehow...
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>>108612798
Politicians will be exempt because of national security reasons, as usual. Just like they were exempt in the plans for chat control.
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Alright /g/, prove that you are not a hater. Suggest a method that preserves anonymity while at the same times keeps children away from social media.
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>>108614119
The mistake isn't social media. This mistake is the meddling of politics in the internet to mass censor everyone that disagrees with certain political class's view using the advertisement system as tool, working with government to blacklist enemies of certain political views and working with the global WEF advertisers. This created the echo chamber and the extremism we see today.

Government that is grooming children and castrating them
Government that is importing tens of millions of migrants to replace the native voting population to stay in power
Government that is giving trillions to mass migrants and then taking money from old people who have worked all their life to accumulate wealth and escape poverty
Government that has brainwashed you into thinking people talking to each other is bad
Government that has brainwashed you into wanting more censorship

You have become brainwashed by the extremist tranny cult
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>>108614261
Ban social media
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>>108614295
*also without collapsing the stock market
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>>108614323
why does a dating website have a stock?
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>>108614291
>This mistake is the meddling of politics
How is an intentional decision, the effect being exactly what the people who made that decision wanted, a mistake?
>Government that has brainwashed you into wanting more censorship
That may be the case for the anon you're replying to. I just see the evil, scary censorship as just another tool of Authority at this point. Every Sovereign does what he will against his dissenters, within what is pragmatically available to him.
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>>108611385
If you genuinely believe the US has the worst healthcare in the world, you are completely propagandized
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>>108614323
Do you hate money or what?
Who wouldn't like a nice investment opportunity?
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What happens when IDs get stolen because of this? It’s only a matter of time.
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>>108614616
The same thing that happens when every single American's Social Security Number gets stolen for the fourth time: fuck all.
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>>108614616
the hackers get them
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>>108613518
People don't vote for laws, we vote for the people who then vote for laws. They can do whatever the fuck they want once they're in office, including taking bribes to vote for bills no one wants. It has never been a democracy
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>>108614261
being a responsible parent
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>>108609313
Glorious bait
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>>108614812
>It has never been a democracy
Stop trying to make it sound better than it is. It's still the fickle masses being given an unearned sense of importance by giving them muh representation.
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>>108614261
Standardized a tag that marks a website as child safe/friendly. Then have browser settings that filter all content that doesn’t have the tag. Leave the responsibility of turning on this feature to the parents.
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>>108614902
>Leave the responsibility of turning on this feature to the parents
Who will then leave it off if it's not on by default.
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>>108614261
Fine parents if they're found to let their children use social media or web enabled devices without oversight.
Parents are shitty and need to be punished for their mistakes
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>>108614417
the healthcare is quality, yet it's also extremely overpriced for what you get compared to other countries even before taking into account insurance or universal healthcare (source I've lived years in 5 different first world countries US included)
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>>108614941
Please do not mischaracterize the United States as a first world country.
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>>108615041
>please do not use the term a country invented to describe itself and its allies in the aftermath of a global war
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>>108614084
You still have to scan your face alongside your government documents.
https://netzpolitik.org/2026/gesichtsscan-und-handy-zwang-von-der-leyen-erklaert-alterskontroll-app-fuer-fertig/
>A year ago, the EU had already unveiled a concept for the app; a prototype integrated with Google followed shortly thereafter. The app is designed to allow users to first upload their ID document. They will then be able to scan their face using their phone’s camera, as shown in a new promotional video from the European Commission. The app will then verify whether the scanned face matches the photo on the ID. This apparently involves a biometric comparison. Once set up, the app will be able to tell an online service whether the user is already 18 years old or not - a real name will not be transmitted.
This age verification will be a part of the general digital EU wallet they're trying to push by the way. It is most likely that it will save your purchase and web history all in one place alongside your other legal documents. The future is bright.
Also ever since these laws have started appearing all over the world in the past year people have been surprised as if it's some organized everything-at-once effort. This stuff has been in the making for literal years and you just didn't bother to follow the news at the time. That british online safety law was voted for in 2023. The EU has been working on the digital wallet and chat control for 4 years now. In 2024 the UN voted for a cybersecurity law (which was worked on dince 2021/22) which demands a lot of the things that are happening now.
The writing on the wall was there since AT LEAST 2022. You did nothing. You could have done nothing either. Did you at least prepare?
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>>108608900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrEUzKTt7j0
>video related is the future of internet and the World, if you say something bad about A or B politician, billionaire or corporation you're going to the gulag or reeducation camps, 24/7 ads you can't skip because programms who get ride of ads will be illegal, endless propaganda and brainwashing

I am praying for an asteroid or massive solar storm to reset this shithole World
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>>108614902
I guess that could work. If there was an ability to install a "parental lock" on smartphones for kids, that would ban or limit social media use.
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>>108610707
Finding another stance to pretend to cling to because it's l"e ebin troll exdee that makes 4chan users really really mad and that generates dopamine responses", no doubt.
>>108614417
A healthcare system built on selling you prescriptions no matter their side effects while also charging thousands for everything as simple as being in a room for a couple minutes is not a quality healthcare system. Kind of hilarious that half the people supporting the american healthcare system are the same people bitching about it because more and more doctors are african or indian.
>>108611729
People think they're anonymous now, when they're forced to use their raw IP because all anonymizing agents are blocked.
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You voted for this.
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>>108609313
You're the bestest goy probably in history, you deserve a ribbon or something.
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>>108609313
This one REALLY pissed them off so I'm inclined to say you're right
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>>108615247
if we vote blue next election it'll all be fixed
when it doesn't get fixed if we all vote red next election it'll all be fixed
when it doesn't get fixed if we all vote blue next election
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This is literally stepping stones to ID.me
if you want to log in into any government website like taxes you have to go to ID.me, take pictures of your passports, do visual verification, and then each time you log in into the device they want you to verify with your face the log in, absolutely revolting

Promis you this is where its going they want to track absolutely every single system. Once this mild age verification is everywhere and its solid = next step they will say it's too easy to bypass, so they will require actual birthday, then eventually it will be a government API replacing all the authentications.
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>>108615539
if we vote blue next election we get 4 years of red somehow stalling everything
if we vote red after that somehow things get worse
there's no choice where things get better
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>americans be like "which party of pedophiles should I vote for next??"
yea its wild that things are only getting worse idk couldnt tell you why
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>>108608900
Has anyone actually reached out to this guy to give him their opinion on this law, or are you all just bitching and moaning on 4Chan? Comment on the video, call him, visit his office. Let him know this shit will NOT be tolerated.
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>>108615713
But that's just more theatrics. It will be tolerated. Procedural democracy is just an outlet for emotionfags. The oligarchy/technocracy/tribe does as it pleases.

Peaceful protest isn't a thing unless what you're advocating empowers another one of the angles tptb are already working.
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>>108615740
I mean what's the alternative? Tarring and feathering this jew in the streets? Because as much fun as that would be to see, I don't think it will happen any time soon. But I do pray to allah that it does.
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I don't get it, isn't the ID verification against your freedom of speech or the constitution or something? I can get ID verification steamrolling the UK and EU we have few rights, saying the wrong thing will get you arrested here.
It's genuinely disheartening to see the west turn into China in real time.
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>>108612957
It may not be completely over but it's getting very bad. We're reaching a point where the amount of work you have to do to bypass these measures is simply unworthy. People WILL comply. Yesterday, on a news article about EU age verification, I've read a lot of people saying that it's a good idea and that the internet should never have been anonymous in the first place. Remember, 2020 was a test and the majority of world population failed it.
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>>108615898
China but with vibrant diversity!
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>>108615917
>Remember, 2020 was a test and the majority of world population failed it.
I've been having fun reminding Orange Reddit about that. They lose their shit, screaming that was different because it was an actual existential threat. Even if you say "Ok, but it still showed the governments what they could do", they still don't understand how much the public fucked up by blinking.
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>>108608900
Gottheimer, the jew and author of this bill above, had recently introduced a different bill requiring social media companies to report anti-Zionism as hate/terrorism.
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We need to start a campaign to vote out every single elected official and blacklist them from ever holding a position of power or even a job anywhere. And if that doesn't work, it will at least pull back the curtain and reveal that politicians don't give a shit about the will of the people if they are willing to screw over everyone while under threat of being kicked out of office.
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>>108615787
civil disobedience and other creative measures
I recall a story about how a guy was so pissed at the IRS for bothering him that he printed boxes and boxes of paperwork for them to go through, and he put together the paperwork out of order so they would have to manually put them together in the right order

that story could have been bullshit but if it wasn't then it was pure genius
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>>108612325
lmao what is this wishful thinking
>ermmm this technically violates a small part of a previous law so there's no way it could pass!
They'll revise it to add an exception and that'll be that.
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>>108615120
too bad space is fake and gay, better be the change you want in the world
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>>108615787
Multiple routes. Stop using computers in your life whatsoever. Get ahead of the curve on biological computing and the internet of bodies re: Sabrina Wallace and others. Begin coding innovations around whatever technological means they use to enforce their paradigm. Salvage old computers and preserve them like one would precious books. Lots of things.
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>>108616000
>vote harder
This is peak mind control rhetoric. Look up Malcolm X on "The ballot or the bullet".
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>>108616113
No I'm not saying just vote harder. I'm saying make a spectacle out of showing how your vote *doesn't* matter. Normies still believe that they're voting for "the good guys." We need to show them that their favorite politicians will work against common public interest while under threat of losing votes.
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You need a second Boston Tea Party or these demons are going to take away your freedom.
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>>108616013
Don't know if that story is true but there's no doubt that the IRS bent the knee to the Church of Scientology, who kept them tied up in courts endlessly, got Scientologists hired by the IRS to leak inside information, and of course used IRS's own rules against the agency. The IRS finally gave up and hasn't significantly fucked with the L. Ron Weirdos since.
>In the course of a 37-year dispute with the IRS, the church was reported to have used or planned to employ blackmail, burglary, criminal conspiracy, eavesdropping, espionage, falsification of records, fraud, front groups, harassment, money smuggling, obstruction of audits, political and media campaigns, tax evasion, theft, investigations of individual IRS officials and the instigation of more than 2,500 lawsuits in its efforts to get its tax exemption reinstated. A number of the church's most senior officials, including Hubbard's wife, were eventually convicted and jailed for crimes against the United States government related to the anti-IRS campaign. The IRS, for its part, carried out criminal investigations of the church and its leaders for suspected tax fraud and targeted the church as a "dissident group" during the Nixon administration.
>Although the church repeatedly lost in court cases heard up to the level of the Supreme Court, it undertook negotiations with the IRS from 1991 to find a settlement. In October 1993, the church and the IRS reached an agreement under which the church discontinued all of its litigation against the IRS and paid $12.5 million to settle a tax debt said to be around a billion dollars. The IRS granted tax exemption to 153 Scientology-related corporate entities with the right to declare subordinate organizations tax-exempt in the future.
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>>108616183
Jesus christ that's advanced autism
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>>108616149
I think that's been done, goob. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSOs4ywfsRg

On the left you have this contrast between the Weathur Underground ecotarahists and cultchah jammers. Well, today the most successful limited hangout platforms all spout WU-style rhetoric whereas halfcuck, as you may or may not recall, came to prominence through ridicule, teasing, needling, niggling, being shits. It's not going to work this time. So what's the next adaptation?

Stupid American doctor, penis will fall off on its own.
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Remember SystemD team accepted the Pull Request of a total stranger to create an age field in the JSON system of SystemD.

Pull Request #40954.

Then a splinter group of SystemD tried to undo the merge and the lead marked the request as Spam.

That was the preparation of the infrastructure that will be used to enforce this in systems using SystemD, every enterprise grade GNU Linux systems using SystemD already has the endpoint necessary to enforce this shit.
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>>108616269
Already installed non-systemd software on two computers: Hyperbola and Slack.
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>>108616269
>age field in the JSON system of SystemD
If only it was that easy to bypass this shit, to me it sounds like a move to signal minimal compliance without actually complying.
>SystemD already has the endpoint necessary to enforce this shit
It doesn't.
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>>108616328
>a json field
Ok, I've mentioned it, and?
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Here you can see how the technical lead of SystemD rename the splinter group request to undo the merge of age verification and marked it as SPAM.

SystemD is controlled by bad faith actors. Is not trustable.
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>>108613125
>Our biggest enemy is politicians just being well, politicians.
FTFY
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If you are using systemd as a local service provider your machine will be forced to by complaint with USA legislation.

Rise up.
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>>108616516
Systemd is open source, they cannot pull that off.
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>>108616591

They CAN
They WILL?

What you can do in YOUR system is to demount system and install a version refactored and compiled by your own hand.

In theory, my research indicate nix-generator (the GitHub repo https://github.com/nix-community/nixos-generators

Can provide tools and instrumentation to define and build your own systemd, but I don't have proof yet.
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>>108616605
>Can provide tools and instrumentation to define and build your own systemd
Why the hell would you do such a stupid thing? Are you an idiot? Systemd was a a problem many years before this. Just replace systemd with Sysvinit, a time-tested robust stable Init system, or RunIt, which Void seems to run with no trouble. You should have done that years ago.
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>>108608900
oy fucking vey, I wonder why don't (((they))) let people without kids be able to bypass this?
also I'm starting to wonder if I should withdraw all my crypto shit, cause I'm pretty sure the amount of times I've told kikes to kill themselves on the internet would warrant me not to be able to buy bread
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>>108608939
cant believe they bricked my bodega's Smart Display
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>>108616605
I already compile systemd from source (nix is gay btw), what is your point?
There is nothing to remove at the moment, the json age field is innocuous, it's purpose is to pretend we comply by doing the minimum necessary.
>>108616652
>no systemd timers
>no systemd nspawn
>muh scripts
Nah.
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>>108615329
Nah, he's just a wrong goyslave
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>>108611667
4chan's administration will kill the site faster than any government agency, post activity has been on a slow decline ever since 2021.
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>>108611960
thomas massie
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>>108614323
>Think of the poor jewish investors!!
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>>108612037
ZOGnald signed FOSTA-SESTA which enabled this ID verification bullshit to begin with
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>>108616822
If the json age field is so innocuous then post yours.
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>>108608939
Early life status?
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>>108616183
Reminder the basedentologists entire source of power is literally doing the same thing big tech does. That being profiling the shit out of people.
They make you take a “self help quiz” that’s designed to flag how susceptible of a mark you’ll be. It’ll detect whether you’re secretly gay or whatever, then they’ll lure you into admitting it, then they’ll keep that on file as blackmail in case you ever try to leave or speak out about scientology.
The exact same thing could easily be accomplished by farming peoples data like big tech does.
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>>108613539
Meanwhile, according to him, losing a couple hundred billion is nothing. As if he cares about some small fines. We ought to just come take a finger off him whenever he gets out of line like this. Fucker could end world hunger, but instead he wants to create the Metaverse and force IDs online.
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>>108616977
>post yours
It's unset, as is by default.
It's a completely optional field that you can set to whatever you want or even unset.
Nothing about this is "age verification", it has two purposes: first to comply without really complying (based), second to take this hot potato off the hands of distros which can just say systemd already supports it and we allow setting it as part of installation, we are compliant (without actually adding age verification or in other words without actually complying)
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>>108617152

Surrender your systemd JSON age date value.
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>>108617379
As I told you it's empty, I'm 30 if you really care to know.
I don't see how it is possible to push age verification onto Linux, as long as you have root you will be able to do everything, you would need a locked down system like Android on top of Linux, with locked bootloader and all of that.
Completely incompatible with Linux, systemd having a optional age field to pretend-comply doesn't change this.
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>>108616000
set up a list that writes down every single politician supporting any type of age verification and label them as enemies of humanity

the biggest and easiest way to push back is to make it as easy as and braindead as possible to look up every single person supporting it and spread it around and make a huge never ending shitfit against them
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>>108616269
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>>108616328
A birth date field isn't a problem. If you think they NEED a systemd field to store a birth date you might ACTUALLY be retarded. They could store the birth date anywhere on the file system with no systemd change at all. This just standardizes where it could be stored in a higher level implementation. Which is a good thing. Because it makes faking or circumventing it WAY, WAY easier when all of the implementations follow a standard. So, really, systemd did us all a service.
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>>108617411

the play here is the software that is going to interface with your system.

Example.

You install Discord into your computer with systemd, systemd has the JSON field ready for integration.

When you install Discord, the program checks if the field is empty or populated. If the field is empty, they can force you to put your age.

In theory, the implementation can be forced to implement a PhotoID check, for example, if Discord want to operate in Albion, Albion law can force Discord, as service provider to request an image of your Identification.
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>>108617742
So basically the birth date field keeps you from entering your age for things like Steam and Discord if it's already set. And if it's not the third party will just verify it anyways.
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>>108617742
I can put whatever I want in the field though, I can populate it with any date, if they are content with this as "age verification" and setting it to 1970-01-01 makes it so I can bypass all age checks, then basically linux is unaffected.
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>>108617488

It is a problem because California Law and Colorado Law force the operating system to check age because Zuckerberg lobbied those states for that laws, so META Platforms cannot be found liable of exposing children to harmful data INSIDE facebook and other Meta Platforms. He made the law of those states to put the responsability into the operating system and now his web applications.

Zuckerberg was found guilty in New Mexico regarding this matter. The SystemD age verification push was successfully merged DAYS after this resolution.

Remember, Zuckerberg was responsible in part of the Myamar Massacre of the Rohingya people during the 10s. This shit is the sequel of that, of Zuckerberg dodging responsability through law.
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>reuters: Meta ordered to pay $375 million in New Mexico trial over child exploitation, user safety claims
archived: https://archive.is/qHMRu
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>pbs: Amnesty report finds Facebook amplified hate ahead of Rohingya massacre in Myanmar

archived: https://archive.is/PGgpr
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>>108617768
>I can put whatever I want in the field though

No one should ask for your age on YOUR system, which you own. You don't owe anyone an explanation.
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>>108617803
You're missing the point, without systemd, the system would probably do some shit like save it as /etc/birthdate/username.txt instead. So systemd doesn't fucking matter at all here.
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>>108617967

SystemD is the single point of integration for every Enterprise Grade GNU Linux system.
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>>108617901
I don't disagree with you, in fact I simply won't install anything that requires this on my puter.
If I have to cuck I'll do it on my kosher android device (I also have a antisemitic android device).
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>>108617967

However you have a point that's why every operating system has to perform the age verification if they want to legally operate in California and Colorado (and Brazil).

I am thinking in the case of nixos in particular: they don't need to expose themselves making the decision because they consume systemd as local service provider: systemd made the decision for them.
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>>108617989
Right, and I'm telling you that all of these enterprise systems handling this in the same way instead of doing their own thing is good. If I'm writing ageless linux or whatever and I want a script to strip out this shit, I WANT it to be in one spot not 30 across all the different distros.
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>>108618032
>Right, and I'm telling you that all of these enterprise systems handling this in the same way instead of doing their own thing is good.

I understand. The affected component is only one across the globe. Is a particular piece that can be refactored.
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busy making standards for how to use this:
https://www.w3.org/news/2026/five-first-public-working-drafts-published-by-the-verifiable-credentials-working-group/

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