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Indians seem to be earning big bucks in it :)
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>>108613096
Any industry saturated with Indians has a commensurate Indian future
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>>108613111
Trips. Checked.
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>>108613096
That's $95,000+. Great money for a 3.5 YOE in India.
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aren't they being bombed by iran? how tf are people still thinking about moving there for work?
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>>108613096
how come SEA, africa, south america etc get fuck all while jeets keep getting those special immigration visa plans
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>>108614289
Could be Indian Muslim.
>>108614333
Companies keep building Global Capability centres there.
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>>108614333
>SEA
Too expensive
>africa
Not educated enough
>south america
I dunno honestly
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>>108614333
all the major manager/general consulting firms have literal armies of indians they advise on policy and therefore push for more indian migration. Its not even necessary that its a intentional effect or a grand conspiracy just some dude wanting to give his relatives/friends a job and it snowballed. Jeets (Bengalis, Indians, Pakis) are the go to slave worker class for the Arabs the religion doesn't matter these days at the end of the day its a hedonist and ZOG city first.
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>>108614446
>hedonist and ZOG city first.
Go back to /pol/ chud. /g/ is a leftist progressive space.
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Most AI researchers and engineers at Anthropic expect to have automated their own jobs away by 2028.

As a PhD student with first author on some papers I can't even get a proper internship. It's oversaturated and one of the first careers to fall.

Data Science, AI/ML and Software development are the three fields most impacted by AI because all three of these domains are what the models are trained the most on because it would result in closing the recursive self improvement loop. Also from a practical perspective every worker in the field wants these models they are building to be the best possible models at the daily tasks they actually have to engage in every day. That means software engineering, data interpretation and AI/ML research and implementation.

I regret going the PhD route, I should have just went into the field directly after finishing my internship at OpenAI back in 2020.
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>>108614354
>>SEA
>Too expensive
didn't indians complained about SEA asking for lower pay on reddit?
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>>108614485
american leftism is just neoliberal bullshit its not left wing at all its jewish poison.
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>>108613096
MBAbros can't resist the lure of cheap poo. Doesn't matter if the jeets can't do anything right and destroy the company, MBAbros just look at the large decrease in labor cost and the next quarterly bonus they get for those reduced labor costs. Any industry with MBAbros is doomed.
This is ironic because the one industry where the jeet menace is kept mostly at bay is finance. If you can get into fintech, you're golden. But you can't be a white guy with a jeet at his core. Fintech expect actual results. If you're not well above average, you're no different to them than a stinky jeet poo. Some back office operations are jeetland but they're kept insulated away from the actual market software where billions are on the line. Jeets can work for Morgan Stanley doing Spring Boot shit for the customer portal normies use to manage their 401k accounts but they're never allowed anywhere near the algorithmic trading desk. Typically the two sides aren't even in the same building and sometimes not even the same city. Fintech is very serious about insulating the important stuff from jeet shit.
The other place that's general safe is smallish, family owned businesses. The pay is usually lower and you have to accept that members of the family will be promoted over you, even if they're morons. If you can live with both of those, it can be very comfy and mostly secure.
Physical manufacturing can also sometimes work but it varies greatly by company as many are being bought out by the Chinese and Koreans who bring in their own people to replace the locals.
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>>108614333
My last employer was a telecom and we did some trial projects with South American outsourcing. The time difference wasn't a big deal for those of us on the east coast and the folks working for those companies spoke clear enough English that it wasn't a problem. Even if their accent was heavy, they didn't use weird idioms that jeets use and were culturally similar enough to communicate with.
The main problem we had with all three companies we tried was that they over promised, main due to thinking they could staff up much faster and easier than they actually could. Turns out it's not easy to find skilled developers in Bolivia. Even the company in Chile, which holds itself out to be the top tech country in Latin America, couldn't find enough quality workers. But at least they were honest about it. Jeet companies would have grabbed some bodies out of the sewer and called them developers.
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>>108614289
>aren't they being bombed by iran? how tf are people still thinking about moving there for work?
Most people are willing to move for a better quality of life.
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>>108614333
It's literally a strategy of the Indian government to push this stuff because a not-insignificant portion of their national budget comes from taxing remittances. From an optics perspective it also helps to placate the masses of unruly and unemployed youth who seem to be present in every large economy now.
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>>108614486
How are jeets with bachelors in AI/ML grabbing jobs while westerners with PhD like you struggling for jobs? Are they just taking lower end/repetitive jobs in India? Because I see so many Indian AI/ML engineers who don't even know the supposed math with jobs. Sorry, I am not a techcel.
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>>108614333
Jeets take more 5x as much H1Bs as the rest of the world out together. If you banned jeets, the H1Bs would actually be under used. That's how bad indian visa abuse is
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>>108614486
My supe told me upfront that a PhD is 4 years of solving a problem and a net financial loss. Did yours not tell you this?
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>>108614622
>Jeet companies would have grabbed some bodies out of the sewer and called them developers.
Indian colleges pump out hundreds of thousands of CS grads each year. They're not low on bodies.
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>be indian
>know that dubai was built on indian slave labor
>know that dubai currently runs on indian slave labor
>already have a job that pays very well by indian standards
>"sir how many lpa for data science posiitonn dubai sir qualifications include toilet training"
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>>108614735
Implying there's a difference between an Indian college and a sewer.
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>>108614743
I don't know what it is about indians, but they always ask the same godamn questions on any forum. And they're spreading out. I'm in some compiler, PL and LLVM forums. Recently we started getting spammed with
>Sir what is package for compiler engineer?
>Can you give me LLVM roadmap?
>Is X good course for compiler?
>Compiler jobs?
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>>108614622
I'd rather has 2 or 3 good SA dves with reliable velocity than 30 shit jeets pumping out fecal slop.
I made it known to my outsourcing partners that reliable output is far more important than bodies. They could at least deliver.
Same with eastern European outsourcing. Very reliable day over day.
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>>108614717
You make 7 figures at OpenAI. Lowest paid position at Anthropic is ~$700k. This is the position that anon is speaking about considering he mentioned OpenAI as his internship. Jeet "Ai engineers" make like $50k and do completely different things, only the name are the same not the actual things you would be doing on a daily basis.
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>>108614757
Their only goal is to grind and make more money. It's not hard to understand.
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>>108614783
My general impression was that the companies in South America hired only competent devs mainly because they're the only ones who had the drive to either go to university or gain skills on their own. Unlike the US where inner city jails have React Boot Camp classes, software development isn't something the masses are being shoved into in most South American countries. You might find some of that kind of thing in Santiago or BA, but not a lot. The net result is the few developers that exist down there are at least decent but not numerous. India on the other hand graduate software engineers who never have touched a computer.
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>>108614757
i think they see this as a form of networking. there's no way someone who knows what llvm is and knows how to create a forum account doesn't know how to search faqs or find one of the millions of free resources to get started with
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>>108614804
>Jeet "Ai engineers" make like $50k and do completely different things, only the name are the same not the actual things you would be doing on a daily basis.
So what are Indians doing? I saw a similar post yesterday about an Indian AI/ML engineer whose skills included GenAI and MLops.
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>>108614783
I haven't had good experiences with SA devs in general, but I have had good experiences with Brazilian devs. For whatever reason they have a serious software engineering culture down there.
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>>108614804
I actually know people there, there's a lot of asterisks
>Junior roles get closer to 300k
>About half is in equity which is currently unlisted
>10% commiefornia tax
>Ridiculous CoL, on average 2x more expensive than say Texas
So pretty good, but not some ridiculous payday like rumors float around, unless there's a liquidity event
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>>108614920
do you have any insight from them about that whistleblower who died?
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>>108614982
No. But it is not super surprising. There are many suicides in big tech. A lot of parts are toxic, high stress, alienating, backstabby, etc. Also attracts a specific kind of grinder (often indian) who thinks money is everything. They become effectively NEETs but with millions at 35. No girlfriend. No purpose. No friends.

But Sam Altman's gay harem of young OAI twinks is apparently true.
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>>108615017
>They become effectively NEETs but with millions at 35. No girlfriend. No purpose. No friends.
This is me but without the millions.

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