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VPNs are now banned in Russia thru ISP-side detection (since yesterday, April 15th)
The Russians' only hope now lies in DPI bypassing like Green Tunnel
https://github.com/sadeghhayeri/greentunnel
Is it even technically possible for the regime to eventually find a way around, around this way around?
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I like how these news are constantly repeated to show everyone how nefariously evil Russia is, and how we all should be happy we live in the West where we're FREE.
And immediately afterwards, the same governments that defend Freedom and Democracy start passing laws to do exactly the same shit because... uuuuuuuuh... think of the children!
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>>108613570
>immediate deflection
>"some other country does it too"
Russia is evil and most Russians are genocidal and evil.
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>>108613570
wait why are you extrapolating a bullshit Labour UK proposition onto the entire "West" like... what?
here in "the West," ivan, we all know labour are commies and they SUCK. at least those who arent commies know this
btw
>banning the use of VPNs by under-18s.
still a dumb proposition, but there's quite a leap between that and, like, banning the entire concept of VPNs, for everyone
LMAO
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>>108613671
>wait why are you extrapolating a bullshit Labour UK proposition onto the entire "West" like... what?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/us-states-want-to-ban-vp ns-but-citizens-are-already-fightin g-back/ar-AA1OTVCe
Shut the fuck up, we're not immune either, burgermutt
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>>108613353
>domestic internet platforms
Nothing of value lost. But what they're actually doing is fishing for VPN/VPS IPs when you accidentally (or in ignorance) connect to one of those sites (or mostly specifically apps) with it on. Then block it later.
There are also loophole ISPs who don't give a fuck and refuse to implement the most extreme of this bullshit, we'll see how long they'll last I guess.
I hate it here.
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>>108613677
>and eventually the government will require your ISP to only allow you to connect to a whitelist of IP addresses
Russia has already been doing this on mobile networks in the western regions. Currently the only good solution is use a VPS hosted in a whitelisted prefix and tunnel through that from your phone. But even that'll eventually get closed up. Frankly, I don't see why Russia wouldn't just pull out of RIPE NCC and the global RIR system and start allocating prefixes themselves. Immediately solves the IPv4 exhaustion problem, and it'd instantly result in every single transit provider on the planet blacklisting routes into and out of Russia.
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>>108613494
depends on the VPN (or proxy) protocol.
and once you have that part working, you can multi-hop by e.g. using a typical VPN provider in the second hop (this is trivial with linux ns and veth).
and what i actually came to say in this thread is that ironically, this is a case where "VIBE CODING" could help. citizens individually rolling their own encrypted UDP protocols, and changing them from time to time. or maybe i'm putting too much confidence on both LLMs and the average person.
the best "teh evil goberment" can do is block all UDP traffic (which would kill all HTTP3), which would make the user experience slightly shit. but you would still be able to bypass with TCP.
>>108613677
even if someone wanted to do this, it's not a workable solution, you can't not underblock or overblock. it's another irony in that all big cloud providers have personal offerings.
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i don't have a raging hateboner for that country nor do i really think about or care for it one way or another. how is this any different to what china does? westerners circlejerk all day long about freedom but i'm yet to see a situation where this type of thing is a net negative for the citizens. those who know and are willing can always get on VPNs, china does not prosecute or punish even though it's technically illegal to not use certain "approved" VPNs only for companies. this type of thing is for mainly wrangling the simpleton masses.
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>>108613570
When Western countries do it it is based and done to stop terrorism and protect children while safeguarding freedom and democracy.
When Russia or China do it it is cringe and done to oppress people and to curtail their freedoms.
Know the difference.
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>>108613880
are you a jeet or a teenager or both?
it's the same reason they would care to keep internet connections to outside the country at all. if they wouldn't care about that, then it would be no longer the internet, just a national intranet.
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>>108613858
>i don't have a raging hateboner for that country nor do i really think about or care for it one way or another
Easy to say when you don't live here.
>those who know and are willing can always get on VPNs
Nigger are you even reading? They're actively trying to block every single bypass including those like 50 people use, you think VPNs will just werk? We're long past surface level redirects.
>China
Irrelevant.
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>Russia and China "censorship"
Fully justified, aimed at thwarting glowniggers attacks.
Not an opinion, a fact, as western compagnies helped with the assassinations in Iran in june 2025.
>western censorship
Delusional and paranoid belief that there is some kind of forbidden knowledge in non-regulated non-approved news sources.
Not an opinion, a fact, as seen by the EU ban on Russia Today.
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>>108614117
Russia has wartime internet slowly converging to what north-korea has. At this point chinese internet is likely more free than russian one.
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>>108614214
It's more "muh chilluns" as usual on the western internet. Most of it aimed at making kids dumber by robbing them of valuable life experience involving computers and the internet, things they will live with the rest of their lives.
In India (yeah yeah good morning saar I'm white as a sheet) they have kids as young as 5 forced to use computers in class even if they are too poor to afford a smart phone. Because they know that hiding the internet from these kids will make them incredibly stupid and prone to the scammers of their own country who will live and breathe the internet for the rest of their lives.
In our country we block the internet for anyone less than 18, demand they use slide rules and 20 year old encyclopedias for classroom knowledge, and be shocked we have a society of fucking dumbass retards who just want to scroll tiktok all day.
We seemingly always choose the worst path for the thing we want to do. If we want to protect children, we should have computer classes for kids young enough to even move a mouse while their brains are still a sponge and they can learn to navigate and be safe on the complex framework of rapists and scammers. Hiding them from that until they no longer give a shit just makes them targets.
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>>108613353
russki see, russki do. When will they stop being such westaboos?
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>>108613570
China and the West are converging on the same model of authoritarian capitalism. Russia and China at least do it for the health of the species, along with the intention of protecting the regime from criticism. The UK and soon Canada are doing the same, just without protecting their people from harmful ideologies - the VPN bans are JUST to prevent ideological opposition and enforcing conformity with the Labour/Liberal party line.
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>Green Tunnel
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>>108613658
>just DNS over HTTPS
>something like quad9
two digits IQ ni/g/ger
you don't even understand how dumb you are (Dunning-Kruger victim). KYS.
>>108613814
>depends on the VPN (or proxy) protocol
another two digits nig/g/er
ask GOYPT what SNI is
>>108613879
>nothing can stop me
another westoid ni/g/ger who never smells pussy
>>108613878
BASED
in conclusion just want to say that all westoids should start to learn how to buy VPS and install 3x-ui on it, know diff between xray\ss\vmess\vless\reality and any combinations of it, how to use deltachat. That's all what Chinks do for decade, IranCHUDS for years, ziggers for last 4 years. Starting from school kid 7y.o. to grannies 80+y.o.