>>108613730
when they threw ads in and outsourced everything to india

>>108613730
There never really was. It was PC enthusiast and DOS+Windows was just the most practical OS for most hobbyist applications.

>>108613730
When windows 10 released

>>108614060
windows 8
it was actually better than 7 but most people didn't even try it because of the gnome tier ui, me included

>>108613730
Anything good about windows died with Vista, so about that time I guess.

>>108613730
It's hard to be an enthusiast about a thing that's the norm.
I'd consider myself an enthusiast though. I've been using Linux for sixteen years. Not dabbled in Linux - I used it as my main system.
Windows is better. Windows 11 even. Linux has some advantages but Linux fanboys have just convinced themselves that Linux is better due to the sunk cost fallacy given all the effort they put into learning how to make Linux do what Windows did already.
Figuring that out has been life-changing.

>>108614120
what has been "life changing" about it saar? please do the explainful

>>108614133
Seethe harder about it fag.

>>108614136
>yet to explain what is so "life changing"

>>108614139
Yeah, I don't explain myself to disrespectful faggots like you.
Maybe if you had asked nicely but, honestly, you can fuck right off.
Enjoy spending hours getting your wifi working and playing half your games retard.

>>108614148
saar please i must insist that you hear me out. i am feeling a profound sense of shame for my conduct. it was never my intention to cause even a flicker of discomfort saar yet i see now that my words were poorly chosen

>>108614085
That's an insult to GNOME UI. Windows 8 fucking sucked ass

>>108614166
look up screenshots of gnome
it's an insult to every computer user in the world

>>108614164
How's that year of the linux desktop going for ya bud.

>>108614190
please explain to the group what has been quote unquote life-changing

>>108614120
Do you get compensated handsomely for this shilling? 100 rupees is probably enough to feed your entire family for a week.

>>108614190
I installed wayland on my chromebook gaming laptop yesterday and it still needs Xwayland (x11 inside wayland) to run games

>>108614198
>>108614207
My bad dude.
Linux can totally do everything Windows can with zero time investment. Your initial response totally wasn't full of seething rage and anger because I pointed out the obvious.
I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

>>108614211
so nothing has been life changing whatsoever? it's such a simple question yet you keep avoiding it. nobody put words in your mouth, you described it as "life changing" yourself. you would think a person of at least double digit intelligence would be able to explain why they used certain words.

>>108614225
I don't have to explain jack shit to you. I'm not here to shill Windows or sell anyone on it. Unlike you, other people using different operating systems doesn't bother me. I personally found it a considerable improvement in QOL.
I just expressed an opinion. You're butthurt about said opinion. It's simple as that.

>>108614241
you have absolutely nothing to say nor has anything been life-changing. don't go so hard on the larp next time. street shitters don't have opinions btw.

>>108614210
nvm I installed "games cope" and I can run my game from tty

>>108613730
After vista

>>108614225
I meant uninstalling Windows has been life-changing. Sorry, my English is not very good and I apologize for doing the confusing.

>>108614250
>no, you can't express opinions i disagree with without fully laying out your reasons for those opinions
I'm not looking for an argument dumbass. That's why I'm not explaining myself. I don't care to convince anyone.
You enjoy Linux. Use Linux. I still do too. I just find Windows less of a headache at this point in my career. I'm sorry this upsets you so much but, again, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind on anything so I don't see why I should have to explain myself in detail to satisfy your narcissistic need to shoot my reasoning down.

>>108614267
>skill issue
so nothing was life-changing at all. or maybe something totally abstract and unexplainable was life-changing. you seem a bit slow, it could definitely be the case.
>I'm not trying to change anyone's mind on anything
using hyperbolic and exaggerative language like "switching to windows was life changing" and then refusing to elaborate definitely makes you a shill. use whatever you want to use, don't pretend you were being subtle.

remember when using regedit was the hackiest thing to do

>>108614302
Whatever you say chief.

>>108614166
No it isn't. Gnome is worse.

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>>108613730
Windows 8 was the beginning of the end. That said, for however shit 8 (and 8.1) was, it was still a OS you could in theory felt like you owned. The final nail of that coffin was Feb. 4th 2014, where he turned Windows 10 into a dedicated ad platform and data collection harvester. There was a reason why 10 was offered as a "free" upgrade and changed "My Computer" into "This PC". It's hard many people to get excited by something that constantly reminds you that you don't own it.

>>108613730
12 years ago, when the indian ceo took place
the enshittification process was supposed to lock users in a cloud environment
instead it's gradually pushing customers away from microsoft's ecosystem
serves them right

>>108614017
/thread

>>108614017
>PC enthusiast
Macs are PCs but I wouldn't call an iMac G5 owner a PC enthusiast or an enthusiast of any kind

>>108613730
Sometime around the switchover to NT, though Microsoft kept trying to astroturf it for ages afterwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30w3GCzTU_c

Win11. Something nefarious started around 2019-2020. My PC with 16 GB of RAM I had bought in 2017 suddenly got bricked by forced update bloatware. Suddenly my Windows fanboy self started having doubts, and it's only gotten worse from there.

>>108613730
When they stopped the Win 7 support.

>>108614267
lmao shut the fuck up, you're employed as a social media marketer and of all the places you could get assigned to you got assigned to 4chan. That's not a career.

>>108615108
>you're a shill
>why aren't you shilling harder to disprove that you're a shill
Are you this retarded in real life too?

Windows 7 was the last time there were legitimate posters on /g/ actually discussing the benefits of windows and how good of a system it was.

Windows 8 was excused of just being the "one good one bad" windows curse but windows 10 being bad as well killed all goodwill. People stopped being genuine proponents of windows and saw it as a necessary evil instead.

Windows 11 is just the end of the system. I have normalfags that don't know about file systems ask me about installing Linux now because windows 11 is obstructing them when they want to play their specific games and they saw pewdiepie or some other influencer show how it doesn't happen on Linux. I've never seen that before in my life.

I experimented with Linux when vista came out and soured me on windows but I have never seen this extent of interest in Linux. I'd even go as far as that it has broken the mainstream barrier to the point women will probably have Linux on their laptops to be pretentious like how they have bookshelves.

>>108613730
When Windows stopped being enthusiastic about users
>>108614085
Windows 8 was great after a few minutes of ricing (which normies unfortunately didn't know how to do), but 8 also wasn't so clear an upgrade that you'd replace an existing Windows 7 install.

>>108615122
Perhaps you should answer the question first? I certainly called you a shill, because you obviously are one. I never asked you to defend your position, however. Because I know it's not yours, so you can't defend it.

>>108615188
No. Don't pretend you're just asking honest questions. You're already doing the shitty little dishonest thing where you poison the well and engage in ad hominem to discredit me because I said something you didn't like. That's proof enough that you're not acting with honest intent here.
Let's actually be honest here. You want me to elaborate so you can nitpick my reasons and accuse me of shilling, same as you're already doing. The thread is about Windows enthusiasts. I simply stated that I am one and expressed a vague opinion as to why that is. I was ready to leave the matter at that. You, however, got butthurt about that and, like many fanboys, took it as a personal insult and decided that my insult meant you had to shut me down as forcefully as possible because god forbid someone actually like using Windows or find it useful in their career or daily life.
I'm not looking to argue about operating systems. I've used Linux for 16 years. It's great. I like it so much that I have Debian and Fedora dualbooted (via btrfs so they share space). I don't have to explain myself to you because you (as well as most people) already know the reasons why some people prefer Windows and I don't need to repeat them.

>>108613730
gAyI might've had something to do with it.

>>108614085
it was shit, win7 forever

>>108615241
I never asked you a question you fucking retard, are you incapable of reading sentences written in English?

"You are a shill" is not a question. Do you see the question mark? It's not there, because I didn't put it there.

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>>108613730
once people realised it was easier to just be a linux user rather than larp as one

>>108615289
Fuck off.

>>108615309
No need to seethe, retard. Get some English lessons.

>>108615314
I'm not the one seething here kid.

>>108615318
I'm sure, whatever helps you cope.

I feel like I still am but now it feels more like something I need to keep to myself rather than use to tout my technical capabilities.

>>108615357
You being worked into a giant melty about shills because I politely expressed the mild opinion that I like Windows doesn't make me the one seething, ya braindead fanboy.

>>108615376
Oh, I'm having a melty by calling you a shill while you're here, making post after post crying about how you don't have to explain your thoughts to other people? You sure are an amusing retard, yes you are.

You didn't politely express a mild opinion by the way, you threw away a post on a discussion board and then deliberately evaded discussing what you said in that post any further. That said, unlike the other guy you were talking to I'm not really interested in what you meant by what you said because I know you're a shill. Maybe an unpaid one, I wouldn't pay for shit service like this.

>>108615425
If you say so.

>>108615431
I do, thank you for your understanding shill.

>>108615436
k

>>108613730
Since the mass EOLs, oh well i guess most current /g/ ate the pajeet fruit for muhh games.

>>108614085
>>108615173
Windows 8 actually increased the incompatibilities to prevent user from porting DOS and other utils from prior windows versions.

>>108614225
My life is more serene ever since I stopped using windows as a daily driver.
I keep an install around for some video games, but that's it.
The amount of times I had to deal with some retarded bullshit in Windows, the pain of package management, the garbage explorer and the countless pop-ups, Edge and onedrive reinstalls... Don't even get me started on the 5 different UI languages and the configuration as a centralized database. It was too much man.
Linux took time to learn, as did Windows, but I don't find myself fighting my PC anymore and using it is about twice as productive and 5 times more serene now.
I am home.

>>108613730
Windows Phone
Windows 8

>>108613730
When windows 8 came out and the user became the product.

>>108615376
got filtered by bash
shoo shoo, normie animal

>>108615825
I mean, I've been using Linux since 2010. It was my main system until about a year ago. I normally run Debian and Fedora, I rocked Slackware until releases of that slowed to a crawl (never cared to run current), have set up and run Gentoo plenty of times.
I find that Windows works better for me at this point in my life. I find it hassle free in a lot of ways given it's not a fragmented ecosystem in the same way Linux is.
I'm not telling anyone they need to go back to it. Linux is great too. I think anyone who uses a computer frequently should learn to use it.
I honestly don't understand why stating any of this should upset anyone in a thread asking about Windows enthusiasts. Maturity is a function of realizing that you need to use the right tool for the job at hand.

>>108613730
When microslop decided 'users' were irrelevant.

>>108615881
if you have been using linux since 2010 and you find literally anything difficult enough (or a "hassle" as you put it) to go back to windows, 16 years later, then you are genuinely retarded. perhaps brain damaged.

>>108616418
I didn't say it was difficult.
What I said is that there are things I don't want to hassle with anymore and I find less hassle with those things on Windows.
I honestly don't get why this upsets some of you so much that you literally have to insult me personally for it. I didn't trash Linux. I didn't trash Linux users. I just said I find Windows better for my needs at the moment.

>>108613730
Windows users treat it as a tool to get other things done, same for Mac. It’s really only the loonix “enthusiasts” who live inside their OS. They turn on the computer to “use linux” because that’s the goal, I turn on my machine to get something done. We’re not the same.

>>108614085
Windows 8 was shit and brought nothing of value. At least Windows 10 brought the terminal API, meaning you were no longer limited to the default conhost.exe and 80 chars width

>>108616418
What if he wants to run Microsoft Excel?

ChromeOS is underrated imo. I don't use it but it seems like the real competitor to Windows.

>>108616573
He can use the online version with browser I think.

>>108616573
Then he's a retard.

>>108616589
You can, but it’s not an equivalent program and is missing quite a few features. It doesn’t have the “optimizer” for instance, because that’s one I often use at work.

>>108614085
Windows 8 was such an absolute failure they had to push out an update to give you the start menu back because they didn't think people wanted one or something, and it was still so bad that they gave out free upgrades to Windows 10 too.

>>108616589
I can. Or I can fire up Calc on Libreoffice.
It's not really the point. I don't want to have to use a browser to use my work-critical software. And I don't want to use other software that might have compatibility problems. That's not really my issue though. More of my issues boil down to the degree of fragmentation in the Linux world.
At the end of the day it's all working around a problem that I don't have because I don't hate using Windows.

>>108616601
I fail to understand how it’s retarded to use an alternative OS (linux) if it means you have fewer things you need available. Linux can certainly make a good ‘compute server’ which is what I’m using it for now.

>>108616620
True. Also choosing linux causes you to select from a narrower set of hardware options, especially when we’re dealing with newer machines, and rather embarrassingly when it involves Nvidia. An approach the linux fans fail to consider is that the benefits of linux would have to outweigh all of these inconveniences. What significant advantage does it have for the end user to justify any pain points, especially when they must choose alterative software and hardware.

There’s just really not a case to be heard, unless we’re talking about a niche use case.

>>108616663
Exactly. It's a matter of right tool for the job.
My laptop is very Linux compatible (ThinkPad, AMD processor). I have Windows, Debian, and Fedora all installed on here. And I like using Linux - I use it often. But I've come to realize that I'm often just using Linux just for the sake of using Linux - not because it confers a benefit I need, but rather just because I like it. Looking for workarounds just because I want to use something instead of just using the thing where the tools are native doesn't make much sense.
Before I got into Linux (but after the initial farting around with Ubuntu most people went through back then), I used FreeBSD. I loved FreeBSD. But I stopped using FreeBSD for the same reason - end of the day, Linux did more with fewer workarounds (For example, you had to edit your fstab to mount linsys and linproc just to get flash working).

>>108613730
When did it start being a thing?

>>108613730
Being a Windows Enthusiast in 2026 is just being a Windows Canary/Dev Insider. You are the first person to experience all the broken shit they add.

>samefagging and replying to himself like a schizo to pwn the linux users
yeah bro there's no use case for linux besides servers. we're perpetually stuck in 2010, the same year you decided to try linux and have apparently never learnt anything new since then. no (you) for morons

I mean, when you have to put words in my mouth to put me in my place, it can only make your argument stronger, right?
I never said there's no use case for Linux besides servers. I've straight up said I still use Linux but Windows serves my needs better.
Why does this upset you so much.

>>108616887
>sitting here scanning the thread for replies
that took you all of about 2 minutes. get help.

>>108616899
>what's threadwatcher
Go back.

>>108616916
threadwatcher only notifies you if you specifically get a reply. scanning the thread like the seething jobless loser you are is pathetic (being a microsoft marketer is not a real job)

>>108616933
Sorry I don't use the right os boss.
Sorry that's such a big offense to you that it somehow makes me your personal enemy that you have to completely discredit and control.
You're absolutely a mentally well person - this is very normal behavior on your part.

>>108616951
>discredit and control.
*destroy, don't know why I wrote control but whatever.

Question for the linux fanboys? Do you contribute any kernel code or applications to the ecosystem? Your passion is great, but hopefully you’re not just using it to become emotional when Windows user doesn’t adopt your lifestyle.
>>108616857
>and have apparently never learnt anything new since then. no (you) for morons
Don’t fool yourself into accepting a false sense of achievement just because you’ve memorized a few terminal commands that someone else wrote, especially as that knowledge often isn’t even conceptual, but rather a current fashion. Spending all of your time “learning linux” would be like aimlessly walking around every street in a city like a homlessly transient instead of getting anything done. Do you work anywhere here? No. Do you live anywhere here? No. Do you make any money here? No. Do people here even know you? No.